Oh yeah, and let's tighten things up even more. If you're going to answer S you have to answer D, and vice versa.
― Tom, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
Destroy: Greg Dulli's face fungus. Okay, fine, it's not *musical*, Tom, but as you've argued yourself, image is just as much a part of the situation, is it not? ;-)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
Destroy: 1965. Just 'cos.
― alex thomson, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
Anyway. Search: The first side of '1965' - the sleekest rock they ever made but somehow the sexiest too.
Destroy - the second side of '1965' - a sudden descent into Primal Scream style Southern kitsch.
― jel, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
― Andy, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
Destroy: All of 1965 *except* "Omerta/Vampire Lanois."
― J.Lu, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
Search: Bootleg copy of a CONGREGATION-era show I saw where Greg Dulli returns to the stage during Teenage Fanclub's set to put the lead vocals on TFC's "Everything Flows". Or was it "The Concept"...? I was in such bliss maybe I blacked out...
Destroy: A lot of BLACK LOVE. A few great songs but...
― Tim Baier, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
Destroy: Most of Up in it & Congregation; second side of 1965 (but only because the album would be absolutely perfect without it; as it is, it's still pretty good); fat, drunken, bar-fighting Greg Dulli
― larmey, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
― simon, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
'Gentlemen' - dire and tuneless - Destroy. 'Black Love' - little better. '1965' - the best of a bad lot. Search for "Uptown Again"
Yeah, I know there's other, earlier stuff that I haven't heard. Yeah, I know there's an EP of, no surely not, SOUL COVERS! Who cares.
― Dr. C, Thursday, 15 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
― Omar, Thursday, 15 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
destroy: i really didn't like that twilight singers record all that much, with the exception of the first track. can that count?
(hey, you want the blues brothers, by the way, you should listen to the first track off the delta 72's '000.')
― maura, Thursday, 15 February 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink
― Antoine harris, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink
Only because after giving it some time, and many listens, I realize 1965 is a brilliant record. It's hard to get passed the production, which is so sleek it cuts them off, but I love the songs, and the guitar work and vocals are amazing.
― David Allen, Saturday, 8 November 2003 05:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Destroy: Black Love. A meandering, hookless soup of despair.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 8 November 2003 06:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 8 November 2003 06:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Nick H, Saturday, 8 November 2003 16:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
It's many things, Black Love is -- but "hookless" isn't one of them.
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 8 November 2003 16:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Saturday, 8 November 2003 17:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Definitely, see their "Lost In the Supermarket", too.
-Colin
― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Saturday, 8 November 2003 17:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 8 November 2003 18:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 8 November 2003 18:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
destroy: that horrific remix of "Milez Is Ded" called "Rebirth Of The Cool" on Uptown, the songs on Congregation I didn't search (ESPECIALLY "The Temple"), the second Twilight Singers album (though a stray great track might reveal itself to me later), and if we could bleep out the bullshit references to the devil from all tracks that'd be great.
I haven't heard anything before Congregation.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 8 November 2003 18:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Oh, no! It's the Strokes argument all over again!
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 8 November 2003 18:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Dulli sounded great, his band sounded great--and not unlike the Whigs at all. There's something about when he's playing (and I use that term loosely, because while he had a guitar strapped on, I'm not convinced that it was actually plugged in) that no matter what he quotes or plays (a Kate Bush song, A Love Supreme, etc.) it seems like music was absolutely meant to sound exactly this way and no other.
On the other hand, he rambled more than I remember--no one to rein him in, I guess. And he made a long, convoluted (I guess) tribute to Elliott Smith which was frankly awful. If he was your friend, fine, play a song and shut the fuck up--it's not something I want to hear him use in his Mr Superlove shtick.
So same old, I guess--way over the top, not someone I wanna be friends with, fucking sounded great. But not as good as the Whigs.
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 15 November 2003 06:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 15 November 2003 06:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 15 November 2003 06:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Also, did you stay for the second encore?
― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 15 November 2003 07:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 15 November 2003 08:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Last night Dulli praised The Darkness. And I so wished I had my cigarette lighter when they played "Faded."
― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 15 November 2003 19:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 November 2003 19:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 15 November 2003 21:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 November 2003 21:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 07:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 12:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 12:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Destroy: my current financial state which means I have no idea when I can get hold of the new Twilight Singers album.
― Flyboy (Flyboy), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 13:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
I think it's an act, the whole asshole thing. I think he's a nice er gentleman.
― scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 15:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I was there, but had to leave early (i.e. 1:15) due to some, er, relationship issues. So I missed the encores. :(
See, the problem with these late shows is that it gives you way too much time to drink beforehand...
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 16:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 16:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
there's a crappy mp3 floating around on soulseek.
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Among the reasons the Whigs never had a big crossover hit: most of their best songs wound up as import CD single b-sides.
― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
http://www.summerskiss.com/category/news/
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 20:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink
Search: everything between their first and last albums.Destroy: their first and last albums.
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 20:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 21:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 22:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink
prob his best album since blackberry belle, i'm calling it
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:10 (one year ago) Permalink
yeah, light as a feather feels straight out of black love. i wish that the classic dulli soaring bit in the middle was actually the chorus and showed up more than once like it feels like it should though
― ufo, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:14 (one year ago) Permalink
tbh a lot of these songs have parts that could work as traditional choruses but dulli just kinda lets them happen once and then the song is over. interesting approach
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:30 (one year ago) Permalink
the only thing that's really lacking in terms of Classic Dulli Flavor is that the lyrics haven't really been jumping out at me at all
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:33 (one year ago) Permalink
"so far inside you now / i am your silhouette" from "demon in profile" is one of my fav dulli lyrics of all time at the moment
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:34 (one year ago) Permalink
Listening again, I think "Light as a Feather" must be one of the clear highlights I referenced a few weeks back.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:39 (one year ago) Permalink
"copernicus" has an amazing chorus/bridge/outro whatever it is
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:13 (one year ago) Permalink
Glad to hear he's still blasting full perv in his lyrics
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:13 (one year ago) Permalink
Kind of? Sometimes it's embarrassing.
i'll love it forever
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:19 (one year ago) Permalink
goddamn this really is great, every song (except for the opener which is wonderful in its own way) is so densely packed with incident
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 May 2017 13:58 (one year ago) Permalink
Via FB:
It is with great sadness that we say goodbye to our friend, brother and inspiration.Dave Rosser passed away peacefully last evening surrounded by love. Thank you to all who kept him in their hearts. He is forever in ours.
Dave Rosser passed away peacefully last evening surrounded by love. Thank you to all who kept him in their hearts. He is forever in ours.
More details here:
http://pitchfork.com/news/the-afghan-whigs-dave-rosser-dead-at-50/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 16:22 (one year ago) Permalink
Damn that's awful. The guitarwork on both the recent albums is splendid. And the new one has only grown on me, to the extent that it's a Top 10 contender
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 19:54 (one year ago) Permalink
"Light as a Feather" / "I Got Lost" / "Into the Floor" is the best closing run of any album this year imho
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:46 (one year ago) Permalink
it was def the best part of seeing them play the whole album live a few weeks ago
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:55 (one year ago) Permalink
"i got lost" is so crushing
arggh I'm so jealous
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:56 (one year ago) Permalink
I totally forgot that Afghan Whigs released an album this year!
― ArchCarrier, Thursday, 12 October 2017 07:01 (one year ago) Permalink
Going to do something about that right now.
Last night may have been the first time I saw them since they released both of their reunion records (and the first since the death of Dave Rosser. which apparently almost scuttled the whole tour). They were strong if not really exceptional last night, and I missed the horns and singers, who added a lot. They did, however, bring out Marcy Mays for a rare performance of "My Curse!"Other highlight might have been the moody slow version of "Going to Town" with Dulli on keys that featured him goofing on "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover," which lead him to admit that you can sing any song over his moody chords, after which he sang a bit of "Tom Sawyer."
As I also expected, Built to Spill was such a weird pairing. I guess the bands have been swapping the headlining spot, but for the life of me I can't imagine BtS following the Whigs.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 April 2018 12:21 (six months ago) Permalink
I think that's what I'm getting when I see them. :/
― Simon H., Friday, 13 April 2018 12:29 (six months ago) Permalink
I honestly sometimes think Built to Spill is being boring on purpose. Tune guitar in silence, play song, stop song just when it is building up steam, tune guitar. Current drummer and bassist really passionless and dull and methodical to the point of intent. Sometimes a guitar solo. Last night they started "Broken Chairs" and then stopped, because Doug was out of tune. While he was tuning someone requested "Carry the Zero," so he says they could do that one instead, "we don't care."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 April 2018 13:01 (six months ago) Permalink
after which he sang a bit of "Tom Sawyer."lol/sob bc i missed it :(i work thurs nights and there was no way i was cancelling my class for this
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 13 April 2018 14:34 (six months ago) Permalink
haha
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 April 2018 15:46 (six months ago) Permalink
the first time I saw them since they released both of their reunion records (and the first since the death of Dave Rosser. this would mean that you last saw them before Rosser joined the band which apparently almost scuttled the whole tour).they toured for three months after his death last year (and two months before it, without him), with his amp onstage and illuminated in tribute. did he have a special connection with Built To Spill?(I'm not going this time due to disinterest in both Ed Harcourt and BtS)
― ҉ (sic), Friday, 13 April 2018 16:21 (six months ago) Permalink
I can't remember if Rick was in the band both shows I saw. I guess he was? Anyway, Dulli last night said they almost didn't make it out on the road again, and implied is was due largely to the loss of Rosser. And at the end he said something like "have a good summer, maybe we'll see you next year," which implies some time off.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 April 2018 17:04 (six months ago) Permalink
Regardless, I just meant it's the first time I've seen them minus Rosser, not that I ever saw them with him. I could be misremembering, but they seemed to make a bigger deal about his death than about Rick leaving, and there were a few references to Rosser from the stage.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 April 2018 17:07 (six months ago) Permalink
Inasmuch as the nu-Whigs.2 is just The Greg Dulli Experience, Rosser has been a much bigger part of his 21st century life and music than McCollum. and he & Curley seemed firmly relieved to move forward without Rick.
― ҉ (sic), Friday, 13 April 2018 17:30 (six months ago) Permalink
caught the Whigs/BTS in Toronto last night, first time seeing either. The Whigs set was sadly short - only 12 songs, only 2 of them pre-reunion ("John the Baptist" and "Going to Town," with a "These Eyes" interpolation). Dulli acknowledged the attack that had taken place earlier in the day which was nice. It is truly remarkable that his pipes have not aged a day. I can't imagine how awesome they must be with additional players cause they sounded massive with just guitars and keys.
as for BTS, I have to echo Josh's complaints upthread. The three-piece setup as very dull to watch. If you had told me in advance I'd be bored by this setlist I'd never have believed you.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/built-to-spill/2018/danforth-music-hall-toronto-on-canada-23ec1cff.html
― Simon H., Tuesday, 24 April 2018 13:37 (five months ago) Permalink
the one surprise of the Whigs set was "The Killer" which I gather got its first/only airing of the tour and was as grand as you'd expect
― Simon H., Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:00 (five months ago) Permalink
the whigs were the best i’ve ever seen them* at the brooklyn date. they covered david gilmour’s “there’s no way out of here” and it was one of the least whigs-ified covers i’ve ever seen them do, they played it so straight. would like to echo simon’s comments about dulli being in incredibly good voice rn
i was actually enjoying bts (nb: i was high) but the crowd demographic shifted so significantly from the relatively diverse whigs crowd to a thick wave of jam band bros. as someone who normally spends most of any given concert freaking out, the guy in front of me was freaking out at every guitar solo way too hard (i think what annoyed me was that he only seemed to care about his experience of the music without being remotely conscious of how distracting, irritating, and disrespectful of other people’s space he was being. also i was high). i left early
* without rick
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:04 (five months ago) Permalink
I'm extremely jealous you got "Omerta"!!!
― Simon H., Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:06 (five months ago) Permalink
oh i also finally fucking saw “omerta” live. only og whigs tracks we got were “debonair,” the slow “going to town,” “john the baptist,” “somethin hot,” and “omerta,” but honestly the new stuff sounded so amazing and they were playing so hard that i didn’t mind at all
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:07 (five months ago) Permalink
xp lol
i was at that brooklyn show too, sorry for freaking out at all the guitar solos brad :(
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:09 (five months ago) Permalink
just kidding, that thankfully was not me
honestly if BTS had gotten stopped at the border and the Whigs got to play the whole night I would have died of ecstasy
― Simon H., Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:10 (five months ago) Permalink
anyway, i'll echo brad's sentiments that the show was a ridiculously powerful experience. greg went to the piano about halfway through for 'it kills' and once he got back up to the guitar for 'john the baptist" the show reached a level of intensity i've rarely seen at a rock show.
built to spill was very good, i thought. i saw them in 2016 at brooklyn bowl and they sounded very thin and very disinterested, but in last week's show it sounded more comfortable and like they figured out how to play as a three-piece. (that brooklyn bowl show also happened during a Mets WC playoff game, so the crowd was even more distracted than usual at that venue, which might've affected their performance. also they had to follow hop along)
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:13 (five months ago) Permalink
greg went to the piano about halfway through for 'it kills' and once he got back up to the guitar for 'john the baptist" the show reached a level of intensity i've rarely seen at a rock show.
god for real. everything aligned during "john the baptist" that night. it sounded even better than when they played it at the first reunion show
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:47 (five months ago) Permalink
I think BTS was extra underwhelming in context coming after that tbh, like after that maelstrom you're not at least gonna give us two guitars? c'mon man
― Simon H., Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:51 (five months ago) Permalink
it didn't feel weird to me that there was a profound energy difference between the whigs opening and bts closing, it felt like a really pleasant comedown after the overwhelming intensity of the whigs. also doug's solos were generous and interesting! i sorta wish they had a second guitarist myself but dude can kinda do it all himself
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 15:02 (five months ago) Permalink
experience still fundamentally ruined by the dude in front of me shouting "DOUG!" in the exact same way deadheads shout "JERRY"
hahaha
it helped that the BTS setlist was ridiculously strong and Keep It Like a Secret-heavy
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 15:09 (five months ago) Permalink
The jam band bro element of the Built to Spill fanbase has long perplexed me
― JRN, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 18:41 (five months ago) Permalink
i had a much better time watching them with a crowd full of beer nerds last year
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 18:46 (five months ago) Permalink
y'all are lowering my expectations :/
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 18:54 (five months ago) Permalink
Are there any good Whigs bootlegs out there? I've been enjoying the Twilight Singers' Live in New York and I'd love a similarly comprehensive Whigs set to listen to
― Simon H., Saturday, 28 April 2018 20:34 (five months ago) Permalink
there are millions of them, nu-Whigs & old, and they sell some soundboard recordings at the merch desk (edited to single CDs)
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Saturday, 28 April 2018 20:58 (five months ago) Permalink
I only spotted merch for the openers at the show I was at :(
― Simon H., Saturday, 28 April 2018 21:10 (five months ago) Permalink
presumably they only run 500 max, at quick-dupe places: I saw them late last year and they only had one of the seven that buyers have catalogued here (three new releases added this week): https://www.discogs.com/artist/89572-The-Afghan-Whigs
― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Sunday, 29 April 2018 01:06 (five months ago) Permalink