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I Can't Find Any Songs on Kazaa And From What I've Heard People Say About it it sounds pretty interesting.
so should i buy it?
should i?
huh?
huh?
come on you can tell me......

Dude (The Yellow Dart), Thursday, 26 February 2004 01:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

There's been a few threads on this disc already...

anyways, go to: http://www.liarsliarsliars.com/downloads.html
there's an mp3 on there.

The album is noisy as hell and hurts to listen to in some parts. If that's your bag, go for it.

It sounds nothing like the 1st album.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 26 February 2004 01:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

it's mildlt interesting but not invigorating. i liked the 1st album well enough and i can understand what they're trying to do with the new one but, for me, it just doesn't work. and, in case you think i'm a pop-ist, i'm not averse to noisy art rock by other bands.

phil turnbull (philT), Thursday, 26 February 2004 01:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what about my bum?

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 26 February 2004 01:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

is it ok to try something new, experiment and fail? (a serious question)

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 26 February 2004 02:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think so. An ambitious failure is usually more compelling than artisitc stagnation.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Thursday, 26 February 2004 02:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

and artistic stagnation as well.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Thursday, 26 February 2004 02:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i like putting cheese on almost everything!

Dude (The Yellow Dart), Thursday, 26 February 2004 04:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I prefer peanut butter

Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Thursday, 26 February 2004 05:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i really really like it, but i don't find myself in the mood to listen to it very often. it didn't so much disappoint me (i loved their first album) as it did change my expectations of them.

umop apisdn (umop apisdn), Thursday, 26 February 2004 05:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i'm so much more disappointed in this thread not being about my bum than I am about some silly record.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 26 February 2004 05:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like it a lot. "Theres Always Room on the Broom" > anything on the first album.

Michael Patrick Brady (Michael Patrick Brady), Thursday, 26 February 2004 06:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Check this review on the Other Music site:

A strident lack of normal movement in the anima(l) of "They Were Wrong, So We Drowned" could well prove for too agglutinous a confit, or in other words it might be excessively, nigh on wantonly, steeped in its own allegorical fattiness for greater hipster consumption. In particular as this seems now a rather pious realm, and one whose gourmandizing has, by all accounts, tended towards the lean and not-so-mean. All in the name of collegial and succour-prone peristalsis perhaps. But it is ironic then that the singer would outline a desire to be a horse on the first track, and not say an insect or something more in line with cosmopolitan solecism, when we consider as well that the one thing they possess as a band undisputedly is a certain hipster (dark) horse sense.

Of course, the first album from the Liars was a more athletic (work) horse, which, for all intents and purposes, also reached out to the aggregate and honest trendlet-bound needs of that moment. But what could be remarkable about this album is a palpable, if improbable, potential on its part to perform the same. Might be real savvy in other words, or else just about completely mystifying (to some) in its (aforementioned) seeming lack of any responsible organizational standard, even to fit with the (relatively) viable 'tortured bon vivant' meme that it represents. Not a watermark level of organization as can be often ascertained in work by their referenced fiery forbears (more or less Neubaten, Youth, Heat) -- not to mention, more recently, in such febrile avatars of transportive texture as Vibracathedral Orchestra and Sightings, to name just two.

Do (the?) Liars, here and now, demonstrate any grace in what they are doing? Perhaps sensing that the only truly publicly acceptable guess will be "yes, probably" is kind of a bold move. Surely this will oft be the case, and rampant forfeiture to the bluff will arrive too, as any anonymous negative response to the album will come across to proximate peers as simply the MORE obsequious option in/on the face of it; i.e. merely naively inimical susurration expected from those somehow perceiving themselves as not having had relented to a woefully pragmatic deadening of otherwise inherent critical faculties. Resembling a type of inversely journalistic devil's advocacy, a syndrome that has permeated the edgewise majority (I feel) will probably pick up in the record's wake, and, likewise, generally purport to be in the name of a wider, value judgment-wary cause. One that seeks, in any case, to prevent the fomenting of no-fun, zero-sum, baby-bathwater gripe meltdown scenarios, just as may be known to occur at your local record store (certainly not just this one), music magazine, weblog, et al… or at least to keep them in (small-ish) proportion.

In this they might have achieved something. Almost analogous to the films of Harmony Korine (or maybe not), it's really one for the people to decide. If you're interested, you obviously ought to listen for yourself. [DHo]

Sexy Dancer, Thursday, 26 February 2004 22:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Jeeb, Liars ARE like Harmony Korine in more ways than I'd care to admit...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 26 February 2004 22:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Someone should disable the thesaurus on his Microsoft Word.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Thursday, 26 February 2004 22:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

hmmm.....i don't remember putting a space inbetween al and bum....
oh well

Dude (The Yellow Dart), Thursday, 26 February 2004 22:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

bruce OTM

donny dorko, Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

So the first album is to Kids what the new album is to Gummo?

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I can't fucking believe someone out there reviews albums with a writing style like an 1880's abolitionist. I mean, where in there did he mention whether it was good or bad? He just said to listen to it.

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

T. Herman Zweibel to thread!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I mean, where in there did he mention whether it was good or bad? He just said to listen to it.

what a concept.

tk, Friday, 27 February 2004 00:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Dudes either been reading BLAST by Wyndham Lewis or writing ad copy for the record store he works at too long.

Jo Jo Dancer, Friday, 27 February 2004 00:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

that review is awesome!

russ, Friday, 27 February 2004 00:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Abolitionism is totally the new cocaine.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 27 February 2004 00:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

You can snort William Garrison up your nose, but please, use a spoon.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 February 2004 00:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

hi philip sherburne

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 27 February 2004 04:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i couldn't be more psyched at these responses:::I wrote that review up there. peace to the 'thesaurus' guy, truly hysterical, and i wish i could turn it off sometimes but it ain't on my microsoft word. i really just agree with turnbull even further up (except didn't get into the first album) though this has all been much more fun, oh and sincere thanks to russ. you guys have no idea how much more head-on this has been than the wheedling responses to our actual site

duke jupiter, Friday, 27 February 2004 07:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I Bought it today & I Absolutely Love It!!!!
It's my #1 of the year so far.

Dude (The Yellow Dart), Sunday, 29 February 2004 07:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

gummo is way better then the new liars album.

twelve, Sunday, 29 February 2004 07:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Not much beats cinema involving rednecks decimating a cheap fold out chair, granted.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 29 February 2004 07:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I really don't understand why people keep on bringing up that this album is so different than the first album. I don't know, hearing the first album and seeing them live could easily predict for me this second album, which I found boring, but not because its 'experimental' or otherwise.

T. Weiss (Timmy), Sunday, 29 February 2004 20:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

New Liars concept album based on "humans trying to survive in LA" due next year.

Sisterworld to be released on Mute in 2010

Doran, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

excited! though the producer they are working with officially Worries Me.

my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

What's wrong with Tom Biller? (Never heard of him, BTW; I'm just curious).

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

i dunno...just looking at his credits...he's done stuff with Jon Brion, Beck, Kanye West, Rhett Miller, Evan Dando, Elliot Smith, Silversun Pickups, Where the Wild Things Are soundtrack

basically just strikes me as some pro nu-indie boring type slick producer i guess....

my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

I can see where you might be coming from Matt, but the one thing I've learned being a Liars stan - don't go into any new album with preconceptions AT ALL.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah they are def an awesome band and have not let me down but that dudes credentials is like super boring NPR type rock to me....

i basically just hate the way "professional" rock records sound now, so i'm worried about it on just a basic engineering, mix, compression angle

my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I just feel like these guys are pretty involved in how their records sound. It seems like they have been up to this point anyway. I can't see them just sitting back like all, whatever. Then again, fuck, maybe that's part of the "concept" - a super-smooth record to fit the L.A. thing. Hard to tell with these guys.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i mean it's no dealbreaker, i always think they are interesting and this sounds even more interesting with the whole half-baked concept album steez....i am officially going to buy this sound unseen.

my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

it better be a soundtrack for this

http://www.imfdb.org/images/c/c8/EscapeLA.jpg

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

That would be amazing.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

sounds v. william gibson in conception

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

appears to have leaked, it's on sordo

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

urgh file seems fucked, nevermind

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

basically just strikes me as some pro nu-indie boring type slick producer i guess

what did you think of the last record? that was more of a slick modern alt-rock record than this one imo

dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

"humans trying to survive in LA" makes it sound way more sci-fi than it is

coping strategy = hanging out at The Smell, not hoarding gas and going all Mad Max

dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

basically just strikes me as some pro nu-indie boring type slick producer i guess

what did you think of the last record? that was more of a slick modern alt-rock record than this one imo

― dmr, Thursday, January 7, 2010 9:14 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wasn't super down with that record really..was "okay" but i guess i'm more of a they were wrong so we drowned type liars person....actually all the first three are good in their own ways

jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

i guess i'm more of a they were wrong so we drowned type liars person

yeah me too. new one's not as good as that but I like it better than the S/T one. (that had some good songs though, "Clear Island" is badass. some of it sounded like Beck though .... nothing like that on the new one really)

dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Scarecrow "Why d'you pass the bum on the street?" track is one of the best things they've ever done.

I played it on New Year's Eve. Everyone was gobsmacked. (Admittedly some of them started booing but everyone else was going bananas.)

Doran, Thursday, 7 January 2010 22:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Listened to this about four times in a row yesterday whilst driving across Dartmoor. It was a beautiful day.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 7 September 2012 08:13 (five years ago) Permalink

This isn't a beautiful album. It's crawling. It's quite desperate, and angry, but subdued. Possibly misantrhopic at points. There are some moments when light breaks through, but not many. Brats is savage. I feel like they're trying to make a point but I'm not sure what about.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 7 September 2012 08:24 (five years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Just got Sisterworld. Awesome. Really woozy, unsettling mix and arrangements, like a rock band melted. This band have clicked hard for me in the last six months.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 4 October 2012 18:05 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm going to need to revisit sisterworld which i never really liked the first time around. but wixiw is really awesome, almost everything i want from liars.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 October 2012 18:07 (four years ago) Permalink

fact magazine have a preview of a Vessel remix of one of the wixiw tracks, pretty bleak

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 4 October 2012 18:08 (four years ago) Permalink

Ha, I bought Sisterworld today too!

Seeing them on the 19th, can't wait.

nate woolls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 22:59 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf1fbu7zLII

cool.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 02:44 (three years ago) Permalink

fantastic

call all destroyer, Friday, 17 January 2014 02:52 (three years ago) Permalink

album is gonna be hot.

jamiesummerz, Friday, 17 January 2014 14:26 (three years ago) Permalink

yes, more pls

johnny crunch, Friday, 17 January 2014 15:15 (three years ago) Permalink

That's fucking awesome.

I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 17 January 2014 15:37 (three years ago) Permalink

second album trailer (featuring a different song, i think)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnb4A-Cumsc

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 23 January 2014 12:49 (three years ago) Permalink

crappy techno

hang son doong (am0n), Thursday, 23 January 2014 15:28 (three years ago) Permalink

oh man i love this even more than the other new song. that slicing processed-horn or synth sound is killer.

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 23 January 2014 15:31 (three years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ArnXsZMHk

can't wait for this thing to be released.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 15 February 2014 20:02 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

full album streaming now!

Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 17 March 2014 22:33 (three years ago) Permalink

this is really good.

Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 02:58 (three years ago) Permalink

daaaamn i want to listen to this but no time for like the next three days

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 02:58 (three years ago) Permalink

i'm interviewing aaron tomorrow. looking forward to it.

mary-kate and ashley's roachclip (get bent), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 05:17 (three years ago) Permalink

i try not to listen to streams but couldn't resist. this is really good, and a nice progression from WIXIW (which I ended up loving).

dronestreet, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 14:45 (three years ago) Permalink

this might be their weirdest album in years, which is good

have a nice blood (mh), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 14:59 (three years ago) Permalink

i don't know if i'd throw "weirdest album" around, but this is really good -- evolution of the sounds & atmospheres first mined on WIXIW, but with a much heavier club influence. i feel like this is their true electro album...and can't wait to see what their next left-turn is, stylistically.

worked at the record store this weekend, and sold the first one to a kid who said, "this sounds like marilyn manson."

...i have not let that that ruin the record for me.

dronestreet, Monday, 24 March 2014 13:51 (three years ago) Permalink

weirder than the self-titled and Wixiw, maybe? That's all I meant.

have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 24 March 2014 13:53 (three years ago) Permalink

weird is one of my highest words of praise

have a nice blood (mh), Monday, 24 March 2014 13:54 (three years ago) Permalink

i'll go for that :)
must've skipped over the "recent"
definitely a big tonal shift towards ambient/soundscape/drone stuff over the last third of the record

dronestreet, Monday, 24 March 2014 13:56 (three years ago) Permalink

i like 'boyzone' as a song title

nathey, Monday, 24 March 2014 14:05 (three years ago) Permalink

This isn't very good. It's probably the least memorable of all their albums. Still it gets a free pass from all the places you'd expect (Quietus, Fact, etc).

Position Position, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 12:01 (three years ago) Permalink

I'm not much of a depeche mode fan or of the other such programmed beat oriented groups they are imitating or mocking here, so I wonder if I should even bother (I have liked some of what they did earlier in their time together)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:37 (three years ago) Permalink

I've only listened to it a couple of times so far but I think this is great. I LOVE Mess On A Mission; most exciting single / song / track / whatever I've heard so far this year. They seem to have followed the course they set with Brats on WIXIW, which I'm delighted with because I loved that track.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 27 March 2014 11:34 (three years ago) Permalink

having trouble parsing curmudgeon's post but that Mute Audio Documents comp is kind of fun and seeing Liars on Mute in that scope is kind of fun

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:36 (three years ago) Permalink

I was referencing this from the NPR writeup:

the new album embraces the type of electro-pop that underpins the catalog of the band's parent label, Mute. Throughout the early 1980s, Mute Records built its brand on the likes of Depeche Mode, Erasure and Yaz. On songs like "Vox Turned D.E.D." and "Can't Hear Well," Andrew uses his baritone to mimic the icy intonations of these hallmark acts, the gothic synth chord changes of Hemphill and Gross following suit. "I'm No Gold" even finds Liars doing Adult.-esque electro.
Some of the Europop moves on Mess are so spot-on that one gets the feeling that Liars are taking the piss.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:14 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah, depeche mode of that era != depeche mode of any era since

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:15 (three years ago) Permalink

Two albums of quite a similar aesthetic in a row is a long pisstake.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:16 (three years ago) Permalink

But not beyond them.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:16 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I would say this is a palette of sounds they like, not any sort of pisstake.

I mean, unless They Were Wrong, So We Drowned was supposed to be one, too

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 18:18 (three years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

Belatedly listening to this. It actually reminds me a bit of Shy Child, which is not something I ever thought I would say of a Liars album.

Tim F, Thursday, 19 February 2015 21:07 (two years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

I'm sure it's from a similar synth patch, but I heard "Mask Maker" in Chipotle today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgtISVfW2TE

and over the din it was very reminiscent of Hysterix "Talk to Me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNSrrXjJ71Y

Spencer Chow, Sunday, 27 September 2015 21:47 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

i completely forgot about these guys. i loved They Were Dead... and Drums Not Dead but they lost me with the s/t. listening to both of those records now for the first time in years and they're still so beautiful...

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 22:22 (five months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

So this band is now a solo project, Angus is the only member. Does anyone else find this odd? From the second LP on they were a solid trio. This news has kind of been buried in the press release/new album hype as well.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 1 July 2017 19:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Someone I know was very, very bummed about the news the other day. It was the first I'd heard of it.

flappy bird, Sunday, 2 July 2017 03:37 (two months ago) Permalink

also what the fuck is this album called? I can't read that shit

flappy bird, Sunday, 2 July 2017 03:37 (two months ago) Permalink

It's TFCF which I believe stands for Theme From Crying Fountain. Pretty disappointed to see Aaron and Julian go, too - they were such a weird magical unit, especially around the DND period.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Sunday, 2 July 2017 03:41 (two months ago) Permalink

definitely one of the weirdest career/sonic arcs in indiedom

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 2 July 2017 05:25 (two months ago) Permalink

is that dickbutt on the cake or what

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 00:58 (two months ago) Permalink

shit, I saw that there was new material coming but missed the fact the band's mostly disbanded :(

mh, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 16:05 (two months ago) Permalink

bummer

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 16:07 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Wow. New record is out today and it's really, really good. Moody and groovy. It probably only compares to Liars (can't think of what it reminds me of, maybe Microphones' Mt. Eerie at times?) but this is pretty compelling.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 25 August 2017 16:20 (four weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

It's growing on me. My first thought was "Yeah, this is what Liars sounds like when it's pared down to just one guy"

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:42 (one week ago) Permalink


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