TS: Sepultura - Roots Vs Metallica - Black Album Vs Anthrax - Sound Of White Noise vs Megadeth - Countdown To extinction. The So Called "Sell-Out" albums

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Considered by hardcore fans as the point where the bands sold out. Did any of these titans of thrash metal sell out? Or was it the pinnacle of their career before continuing now and sulling their fine legacies? (Slayer not included as noone accuses them of selling out)

Feel free to argue any rock/metal band who has been accused of selling out but has infact made great albums.

For the record the above albums are not my favourite by each band, but I do still like those albums. I do however dislike most of the albums that have come after.

Rock Bastard, Friday, 20 February 2004 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

My head is going to explode....TOO MANY OPTIONS..TOO MANY TITLES...

In any event, I'll take Sound of White Noise, which to this day remains criminally undersung.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 February 2004 02:32 (sixteen years ago) link

GREAT THREAD. Countdown To Extinction is a great album though. I hate the rest. I don't even remember Sound Of White Noise at all right now. The Black Album isn't as bad as we Metallica fans make it out to be. Roots still has some old Sepultura fans but I hate it.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 20 February 2004 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm going for a drive to listen to Countdown To Extinction! Hahaha.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 20 February 2004 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't even remember Sound Of White Noise at all right now.

GAH!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 February 2004 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Sepultura's really a marginal band next to Metallica. Beneficiary of charity case reviews, a common ailment in the genre.

Having witnessed Anthrax many times, another bunch of marginal perishers -- the East Coast's Armored Saint, somewhat more successful but not so much it matters. Boring shows, band incapable of writing memorable riffs, one guitarist becomes more famous for being a klepto or something else vaguely psychotic. Supposed to be good for you -- like vitamins or broccoli -- because of "I'm the Man," allegedly a first in something, something not good.

Perpetual undercard bands serve a purpose.

George Smith, Friday, 20 February 2004 02:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Why do you hate 'Roots'? It was hugely popular amongst critics at the time but seems to be a bit forgotten now in favour of earlier works.

Sound Of White Noise was the 1st album with John Bush and some of it sounded remarkably like Alice In Chains(No bad thing IMO).

I wonder what Metallica would've been like if John Bush had been in them(wasn't he supposed to have been asked to join?)

Rock Bastard, Friday, 20 February 2004 02:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Overkill, Metal Church, Testament to thread.

George Smith, Friday, 20 February 2004 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Roots, even with its Nu-metal influence. It was one of my first "real" metal albums, and it introduced me into the world of extreme music. I actually think there several decent tracks on it as well. But then again, I never really listened to their older stuff.
I cannot listen to the Black Album at all, except for "the Unforgiven", which I actually think is the best song on the album. Metallica were apparently so intent on making a pop record that their attempts at rocking turned out really half-ass.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 20 February 2004 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link

At what point does a band who doesn't wish to stagnate, progress musically but then cross the line of becoming a sell out? Is it a sales barrier or they just change too much from what they started off as?
And if they actually do change/progress and become BETTER can it still be called a sell out?

Rock Bastard, Friday, 20 February 2004 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Re Sepultura, Anthrax:

"...but then cross the line of becoming a sell out?"

How can one sell out if one has never actually made it.

George Smith, Friday, 20 February 2004 02:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I've found that people who throw around terms like "sell out" and "authentic" are joyless bores.

Never trust someone who's a self-proclaimed expert on someone else's integrity.

Sell Out, Friday, 20 February 2004 02:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Anthrax made it, as much as any band from that '86-'90 period other than Metallica.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 20 February 2004 03:02 (sixteen years ago) link

"I've found that people who throw around terms like "sell out" and "authentic" are joyless bores."

That's why I said "so called sell out albums" I for one don't consider them to be sell out albums but many do and I was interested in hearing what others think and why.
All of these bands have made it critically and commercially as far as I know.

Rock Bastard, Friday, 20 February 2004 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link


i think i'm going with anthrax on this one.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:23 (sixteen years ago) link

As a wee metal lad, I can't express how let down I was when I bought Countdown To Extinction - it may have very well been the album that put me off metal for a few years.

All those albums are pretty much crap.

Anthrax has never had a singer that suited them. Roots was the last Sepultura album I heard, and, as much as I loved Arise (I mean...who doesn't?) I totally hated Roots then and haven't heard it since.

Iron Maiden and Slayer rule over all, natch.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:35 (sixteen years ago) link

On the other hand, all of these perfectly ridiculous records are "true" to the longstanding tradition of metal bands making sell-out records.

In my eyes, Pantera made this all moot by inventing the "reverse sell-out."

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:59 (sixteen years ago) link

You mean Vulgar Display?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 20 February 2004 05:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, Vulgar Display of Power trumps all of these "sell-out" albums.

abegrand, Friday, 20 February 2004 05:15 (sixteen years ago) link

hell yeah. tho "This Love" could have crossed over, a la "Cematary Gates"

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 20 February 2004 05:20 (sixteen years ago) link

FUCKING HOSTILE!!!! Pantera fans are funny. That's a great record, though.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 20 February 2004 05:25 (sixteen years ago) link

what's so funny about us?

:)

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 20 February 2004 05:45 (sixteen years ago) link

megadeth!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 February 2004 08:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Countdown To Extinction didn't really lose any of the band's qualities like these other records. It still had the sorta complex and thrashy gits and that Mustaine snarl and sense of melody. I knew so many people that thought it was a huge letdown but I always liked it just as good as Rust In Peace.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 20 February 2004 08:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Anthrax made it, as much as any band from that '86-'90 period other than Metallica.

Now that's purely the milk of human kindness speaking.

George Smith, Friday, 20 February 2004 08:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Anthrax has never had a singer that suited them.

Anthrax has always been faithful to its name. Something to be avoided for decades. See Gruinard Island.

George Smith, Friday, 20 February 2004 08:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Aaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhh.... Pfew.... I think I've to stick with Roots here. The reason being that I'd lost interest in metal back then and started to look around for other kinds of music. Roots came right on time to guide me into the so-called world music.

Roger T (Roger T), Friday, 20 February 2004 08:52 (sixteen years ago) link

All those albums are pretty much crap.

Jawohl! Sehr richtig!

George Smith, Friday, 20 February 2004 08:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Roots came right on time to guide me into the so-called world music.

So you're saying the sound of being forcefed dry powder concrete mix is similar to world music.

George Smith, Friday, 20 February 2004 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually not, but I thought I heard a resemblance back then...
Let's say that Roots led me to Chico Science and Nacao Zumbi's Da Lama Ao Caos - the blueprint to Roots - which introduced me to the rhythms from Brasil and, evidently, Africa.

Roger T (Roger T), Friday, 20 February 2004 09:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I rather liked John Bush from Anthrax's voice. Armoured Saint any good?
What other thrash bands are worth checking out then that didnt become 'false metal'? hehe

Rock Bastard, Friday, 20 February 2004 12:02 (sixteen years ago) link

No mention of 'Cold Lake' yet!!!?

dave q, Friday, 20 February 2004 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Sound Of White Noise is a pretty good record, "Black Lodge" aside. I never liked Sepultura at the time, though I enjoyed their double live CD, Under A Pale Grey Sky, which came out in 2002, I think. I don't know what this "Black Album" you speak of is. Metallica broke up in 1988, immediately after completing the ...And Justice For All tour. And I've never heard Countdown To Extinction all the way through, but the two singles ("Symphony of Destruction" and "Foreclosure of a Dream") were good.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 20 February 2004 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

No Phil, Metallica made another album after Justice, but you probably never heard it because grunge killed metal in 1991. There's a fifth Ratt album, too.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 20 February 2004 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

These are all the albums from the period in Sound of the Beast where Gary Holt talks about Testament and Exodus members going on NutraSystem diets!

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 20 February 2004 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Surely "Chaos AD" was the big "sellout" album for Sepultura (drastic style change from fast and aggressive Slayer-esque thrash metal to Pantera/Biohazard-inspired moshcore, the band relocating to the US, Jello Biafra guest spots, etc)? At least that's when most of the Sepultura fans I knew jumped ship.

Arise -> Chaos AD -> Roots = And Justice -> Black Album -> Load

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 20 February 2004 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Coutdown to Extinction was okay, as was the Black album, not heard the other two.

Hey, has anyone heard the latest Anthrax album? It was album of the year somewhere or another.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 20 February 2004 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Chaos AD was NOT A SELLOUT RECORD. I never heard anyone who LIKED Sepultura complain about Chaos AD. It was frightening at first, but we learned of its many wonders. Thats where 90's metal came from. Simple riffs, heavy grooves, really simple repetitive lyrics... only it was fucking hardcore and fresh when Sepultura did it. Tool's new sound is right there in the middle of "Amen".

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 20 February 2004 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link


No mention of 'Cold Lake' yet!!!?

Haha! Dave Q cutting to the heart of the matter!

Ian, when is the revised version coming out again?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 February 2004 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Tom Warrior on Cold Lake in Sound of the Beast: "A Mistake" See chapter XIII for this and other reports of Megadeth, Slayer, Exodus, and Metal Church fucking up bigtime.

Ned, I just received a package of three paperbacks this morning. It should be rolling into stores by March. The new section on metal in Israel, Morocco, Egypt reads well -- I'm pleased. It's amazing what a little breathing room can do. It was also nice to write in the present tense.

IAN

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I rather liked John Bush from Anthrax's voice. Armoured Saint any good?

I think John Bush's voice is perfectly suited to Anthrax, but Armoured Saint were EMBARASSING!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Ned, I just received a package of three paperbacks this morning. It should be rolling into stores by March. The new section on metal in Israel,
Morocco, Egypt reads well -- I'm pleased. It's amazing what a little breathing room can do. It was also nice to write in the present tense.

Most spiff. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Armored Saint were caught between the glam bands and the thrashers, but they weren't embarrassing. March of the Saint is a good, fist-pumping early-80s powerful heavy metal album in the vein of Accept and Judas Priest. Nothing to sneeze at.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I went to see Dio at Madison Square Garden, on the Sacred Heart tour, strictly to see Accept, who were opening.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link

It [ an Anthrax CD ]was album of the year somewhere or another

Serbia.

George Smith, Saturday, 21 February 2004 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Metal Sludge maybe?

Rock Bastard, Saturday, 21 February 2004 03:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Where Kerrang Placed These Albums In end Of Year Lists

Metal Stats, Saturday, 21 February 2004 03:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Chaos AD was NOT A SELLOUT RECORD. I never heard anyone who LIKED Sepultura complain about Chaos AD.

Interesting, could this be a typical Euro/US divide? Quite a lot of people here were really disgusted with how generic and American Sepultura had become, it was a complete 180 for the band.

Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 21 February 2004 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Is there a UK/Europe divide too? I seem to remember Sepultura fans raving about Chaos AD here.

Rock Bastard, Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Sepultura sounded American as hell in their best phase - '89 - '93. Chaos AD just sounded like after they did Arise they started mixing more stuff in with their sound. They obviously got really into Helmet's Meantime. But they also threw in some serious early Cro-Mags agression. If nothing else, I thought this was easily Max Cavelera's best vocal performance. He gave it hell on Chaos AD. And musically that was about the HEAVIEST groove-metal ever at that time. I don't even remember the folks who didn't like it calling it a "sell-out" - it was just a bold change.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw the Sound of the Beast paperback in Barnes & Noble in Springfield, NJ today.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 21 February 2004 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahaha, maybe I spent too much time with shady elitist Death/Black/Doom figures, but quite a lot of people here considered the whole moshcore/groove crossover as severe "dumbing down" and the worst thing to happen to metal since the hair bands. I remember that the word getting out that Sepultura were switching from Scott Burns to Andy Wallace as producer for "Chaos AD" already raised fears. "Chaos AD" still is an excellent album for the style. Fantastic production, great vocals, catchy as hell. It was Sepultura's big breakthrough, the singles got in the lower reaches of the charts, the videos were all over Headbangers Ball, they played at every open air festival alongside Biohazard and Machine Head, they gained hundreds of thousands of new fans. But I don't think many of the early fans who came in between the split with Overdose and "Beneath The Remains" were still on board by then. The fans who got in through "Arise" seemed to like it more though.

I think there are three criteria for a "sellout" album:
- major musical change into a more popular style ("bandwagon jumping")
- big commercial success (although: debatable, see "Cold Lake")
- loss of nearly all original fans (not merely disappointing them with a sub-par album, but actually losing them)

By those standards, the sellout albums for Sepultura, Metallica, Anthrax and Megadeth are "Chaos AD", the black album, "Sound Of White Noise" and "Youthanasia" (*).

(*) While "Countdown To Extinction" was definitely a letdown (lots of boring songs, a few gems), it wasn't a massive change. "Youthanasia" however did ditch lots of the pure thrash and was significantly more streamlined/radio-friendly.

Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 21 February 2004 23:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't see how selling lots of albums makes someone a sell out. That's beyond the bands control. I thought selling out means doing things you swore you would never do. Make videos, produce merchandise, expensive ticket sales, appear on Top Of The Pops, Appear on MTV Awards all when you previously swore you wouldn't do any of these.

Noone will ever accuse The Darkness , Coldplay or Oasis of selling out for doing any of these things as they never said they would refuse to do so.

Rock Bastard, Sunday, 22 February 2004 00:14 (sixteen years ago) link

These bands all had the chance to own metal in the 1990s, and except for Metallica they mostly fucked it up. Chaos AD did go gold, but Sepultura couldn't handle the success, and splintered. Megadeth had many platinum albums, but remained marginal somehow. Anthrax bombed hard.

I think the pinnacle of the underground cash-in were the Earache deals that brought Carcass, Godflesh, Cathedral, Morbid Angel, Napalm Death and Fudge Tunnel to major labels. It was a great moment -- and produced some of the best metal ever made, but after that failed to score multiplatinum albums, metal was death to major labels, no pun intended. They never even got the chance to ruin their long-term careers with bad follow-up records. (Fudge Tunnel happily sold out immediately and were thankfully destroyed ).

1991-1993 is such a complicated time for metal. Heck, what am I doing sweating this beady-eyed Internet post. Y'all can go to Springfield, NJ, and buy the book for further analysis. Phil, I hope you moved a copy to the Chicken Soup display. Actually, my original editor is their editorial director now.

Mainly I wanted to follow up on Siegbran's shady elitists. Yes, the thrasher fanbase that launched all these "sell-out" bands had already moved on to Death, Morbid Angel , Cynic, and Massacre records on underground labels. And the original death metal demo hellchildren were either starting black metal bands in Norway or listening to Caroliner, so traumatized by Joey Belladonna that they began to prize "obscurity" as a guiding principle.

Compared to all these Metal Church and Celtic Frost bombs, the most disappointing piece of crap from that era is still Sonic Youth's Goo.


Anyway, hats off to bad metal. It has its moments, and it tries way harder than bad indie rock on the SpinArt label.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 22 February 2004 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry but Metallica "fucked it up" more than any of these other bands. Metallica were absolutely the fucking kings in the late 80's. They could have been just as huge today if they had remained a metal band - if they had found a way to mix the sound and agression of Master with the way Justice is so prefect and precise and takes time to unfold.

You can't say that about those other bands. They all had their moments but they were never the mighty Metallica. And Sepultura really never was part of this group. Everyone was fighting over which was better between Beneath The Remains/Arise and Altars Of Madness/Blessed Are The Sick back in the day when Megadeth and Anthrax sorta "got old" as kids will say.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Sunday, 22 February 2004 01:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Metallica were already getting HUGE when they were still good. If they had stuck with their guns like Slayer did, they'd still be that much bigger than Slayer in the metal world. And there'd still be shitloads of people waiting for the new Metallica album. I mean a new Metallica album is gonna sell, but now the only people who anticipate a new Metallica album probably will never sit down and listen to it from beginning to end. Metallica fucked up.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Sunday, 22 February 2004 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Just to recap what I thought was obvious: None of these albums are very good. Metallica sold nearly twice as many albums as Nirvana as had the opportunity to make fools of themselves twelve times over; Slayer and the rest were reduced to chasing their own tails.

Personally, I think Saxon fell off sharply after Crusader.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 22 February 2004 03:17 (sixteen years ago) link

>if they had found a way to mix the sound and agression of Master with the way Justice is so prefect and precise and takes time to unfold.

This is why one of the DVDs from the Binge & Purge set might be the best Metallica recording ever; it's a live concert from 1989, when they were playing a bunch of the Justice material, only this time, with bass.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 22 February 2004 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Their sound didn't change much but Iron Maiden wasn't nearly as good after Adrian Smith left the band. The last two albums with Smith they started bringing in guitar synths, which took some edge off of their sound, so it was more of a gradual thing.

"Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter" is pretty goofy, even for a band that has a 13 foot tall skeleton mascot.

earlnash, Sunday, 22 February 2004 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

six years pass...

CUT THROOOAAAAT CUT THROAAAATT

underrated SCAREosmith albums I have loved (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 9 October 2010 18:04 (nine years ago) link

Sepultura's really a marginal band next to Metallica. Beneficiary of charity case reviews, a common ailment in the genre.

man six years ago or not, fuck that. Schizophrenia through Arise is non-fuckwithable.

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Saturday, 9 October 2010 19:01 (nine years ago) link

George really hated Anthrax & Sepultura eh? Have you mellowed towards them yet gorge?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 October 2010 19:12 (nine years ago) link

I love old Anthrax too. haven't heard much of the Bush era, hated Volume 8 thought.

but I mean Spreading the Disease, Among the Living are fantastic...even though Belladonna had a very unique and odd voice for metal (in that it was poppy but not in your typical 'Helloween' sort of way), I thought he fit them pretty well. Less so on Among the Living which was closer to the S.O.D. side project and less melodic, but still....

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Saturday, 9 October 2010 19:14 (nine years ago) link

I could never listen to Anthrax because of Belladonna.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 October 2010 19:17 (nine years ago) link

Roots is such a weird and singular-sounding album. Anyone who calls it a sellout is a dipshit the highest order

underrated SCAREosmith albums I have loved (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 9 October 2010 19:55 (nine years ago) link

i like roots but i'd rather just listen to timbalada

the parking garage has more facebook followers than my band (Jordan), Saturday, 9 October 2010 20:16 (nine years ago) link

Roots isn't a sellout, it's just BOOOOOORING

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Saturday, 9 October 2010 20:51 (nine years ago) link

Chaos AD > Roots

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 9 October 2010 21:31 (nine years ago) link

Chaos I still haven't heard outside of Refuse/Resist. been meaning to get it.

THE SOMEWHAT COMPETENT RANDY (San Te), Saturday, 9 October 2010 21:32 (nine years ago) link

really kinda dig roots but yeah Chaos AD is the pinnacle of Sepultura imo

MMLLLARRRFF (jjjusten), Saturday, 9 October 2010 21:39 (nine years ago) link

if i were ranking them best to worst

roots
countdown to extinction
black album
sound of white noise

MMLLLARRRFF (jjjusten), Saturday, 9 October 2010 21:40 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

sound of white noise is most likely my favourite anthrax record. unlike many, i don't think thrash benefited particularly from a "good old dose of humour" and i found the early to mid-year anthrax releases to be tedious and irksome to the core. SoWN struck me as a much more mature and focused affair than anything they'd coughed out previously, and i think it was unfairly maligned for being different and a byproduct of the grunge era, when in retrospect it was a logical and inspired step forward.

charlie h, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 07:44 (eight years ago) link

sound of white noise is the only anthrax album i can stand

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 09:53 (eight years ago) link

This thread makes me want to listen to more Sepultura

revelatory juxtaposition there, bro (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 10:15 (eight years ago) link

Countdown >> Black > White Noise >> Roots

Siegbran, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 21:54 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

I've done a bit of a 180 on Roots. hated what I heard of it when I came out (and I honestly hate Max's vocals, because he turned his pretty unique bellow into a generic nu-metal scream), but mere generic nu-metal this isn't. percussively, it's interesting, but there are a lot of interesting sounds on the album.

the riffs aren't particularly memorable like classic Sepultura but they aren't meant to be.

Neanderthal, Friday, 20 June 2014 02:38 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

some interesting chat on FB where some nutters said chaos ad was the sellout album where they got off the bus.

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 14 August 2015 21:19 (four years ago) link

no, not siegbran lol

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 14 August 2015 21:23 (four years ago) link

the black album is definitely my least favorite of these. sound of white noise is amazing

Its a great record unlike their others

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 14 August 2015 21:29 (four years ago) link

Who is the singer in Anthrax now?

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 15 August 2015 16:24 (four years ago) link

Joey Belladonna.

And yeah it's funny to look back on Sepultura jumping on two consecutive bandwagons - first the groove metal/hardcore thing, and then nu-metal.

Siegbran, Saturday, 15 August 2015 16:47 (four years ago) link

it's really cool that they worked with carlinhos brown and brought in batucada percussion, wish i liked the music better.

lil urbane (Jordan), Saturday, 15 August 2015 16:55 (four years ago) link

some interesting chat on FB where some nutters said chaos ad was the sellout album where they got off the bus.

It's edging towards sellout a bit but it rules and I would've stayed on that bus for a couple more stops.

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 15 August 2015 22:53 (four years ago) link

I saw Joey Belladonna sing the National Anthem at a Vikings game not bragging just saying

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 16 August 2015 02:03 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

through broad stripes and bright stars
through the perilous fight
He's coming, corrupting
Aaaa-mong the liii-iii-viing

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 February 2020 04:42 (two weeks ago) link


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