RFI: Music of Finland, Finns (Seven Deadly), Finnish Rock, Electronic, etc Music

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so what do people know about finland, esp. with regards to music scenes, etc?

people with knowledge of finnish rock music, dance music, etc post here!!

geeta (geeta), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

oh yeah -- tuomas to thread! (he's from helsinki, right?)

geeta (geeta), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Moomins - what's on your walkman?

Sean M (Sean M), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Pan Sonic woohoo! Circle! Also, here's some websites, mostly in a psych/Terrastock vein:

Bad Vugum

Verdura

Fonal

Lal Lal Lal

267 Lattajjaa

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, Ektro

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

are origami galaktika finnish? theyre nice.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

What I know about Finland is probably not very representative of what people actually listen to there, at least for pop:

Varttina: modern folk band, lots of incredible female harmony singing and the music is sometimes kinetic, other times somber

Gjallarhorn: similar, but only a solo vocalist instead of a group

Hedningarna: more folk-influenced music, but also use of electronics and occasional proggy feel.

Alamaailman Vasarat: folk/metal instrumental band, sort of like a cross between Masada, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and Finnish folk

Circle: pretty well known psych-rock band

I also think we've had some Finland threads before.

dleone (dleone), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, and Luomo (sleek vocal house)

dleone (dleone), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Here it is

dleone (dleone), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

what ! no mention of 22 Pisterpirkko .. simply the best band out of that fine fine country. weird offkilter garge rock guitars, twisted beats, studio touchups (on later stuff anyway), haunting melodies etc makes for a band that should have gt a lot more time on peoples stereos. superb stuff. for laffs it has to Leningrad Cowboys .. and the well named Paska (aka Shit), but my wife loved Sieilen Veilet (or sommat like that) but i never got them .. as it was all down to the lyrics .. - but seriously 22-P are to be tracked down. available all over the place.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

the first three bands that dleone mentions are dear to my heart. they play woozyinsane folk music that makes me wish I was a thornbush.

seek: Varttina's "Ruskie Neitsyt" (it's a song)

Sean M (Sean M), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Fav. Finnish band: Kingston Wall, awesome psyche rock.

Nearly tied: Amorphis

Runner-up: Sentenced, esp. from back in the day

Very honorable mention: FINNTROLL!!!!!
(AMG: "trollish hoedown metal")

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 February 2004 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Sahko Records!!!

Former Supposed So Called Nihilist Teenage Drug Disco Addiction Counselor (mjt), Monday, 16 February 2004 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

(Sähkö, even ;)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 16 February 2004 23:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Impaled Nazarene, Beherit, Amorphis, Pest, Warloghe, Skepticism, Thergoton.

And:

Ural 13 Diktators, Bangkok Impact.

Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 16 February 2004 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link

In the Hedningarna/Vartina/Gjallarhorn vein: Wimme (Saari).
Residents/Renaldo & the Loaf: Keuhkot.

Roger T (Roger T), Monday, 16 February 2004 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link

weirdly enough yesterday i was cataloguing finnish christmas music. and this morning i listened to the Cat & Mouse cd on sahko.

mullygrubber (gaz), Monday, 16 February 2004 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Hanoi Rocks, Circle, HIM, and Amporphis. And there must be other dark metal bands I like from Finland; I just forget which ones they are right now since I get all those Scandinavian countries mixed up in my head. And I pretty sure I liked some shrieky hardcore band from there once, too, but I forget what they were called.

chuck, Monday, 16 February 2004 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Impaled Nazarene

How weird, for some reason I always thought they were Greek.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I like Enter My Silence, too. I MIGHT like Entwine; I forget. (And I spelled a couple words wrong in my previous post but thanks to my newfound will power I will not say what they are.)

I've tried a few times to like Sentenced, but they always kinda hit me as a so-what imitation of Sisters of Mercy (who were also never as good as I hoped they'd be.)

chuck, Tuesday, 17 February 2004 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Sentenced were always massively overrated IMO.

And Mika of Impaled Nazarene did do a project with Necromantia (Greek) members, so there is a IN-Greece connection.

Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah okay, I was wondering where I got the idea from.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 00:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Mr. Velcro Fastener - sleazy electro
Magyar Posse - epic post-rock

Curt (cgould), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link

The Finnish pop charts are quite good, all things considered. HIM are utterly brilliant. I also listened to some stuff by a group called Fintelligens, which seems to be Finnish pop-hip-hop, and I enjoyed it immensely. This probably makes me very uncool.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link

My personal favorites: 22 Pistepirkko, Brandi Ifgray, Sibelius, Giant Robot, Jimi Tenor, The Leningrad Cowboys.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes to Sahko! It took me quite a while to track down Mika Vainio's solo stuff. Great minimal techno.

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Geeta, you may have already checked out this site, but if not, this is a great source:

http://www.phinnweb.com

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Another incredible source

dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Doktor Kettu ! ! ! !

Awesome drone/noise/psych. SOunds predominately improved. buzz roar bang. lengthy pieces to get yr teeth into. down wid it yo.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Heh. At first I read "improved" as "improved".

OleM (OleM), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:36 (sixteen years ago) link

damn, only now notice i a certain someone who (not for the first time) is somehow left unnoticed yet once again - Kimmo Pohjonen, the marvellously "zany" accordion-with-electronics muth'sician, yay!

oh, and the late great Edward Vesala.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link

and - Raoul Björkenheim (with Krakatau, or w/whomever) is a great guitar player.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 19 February 2004 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link

FINNTROLL

Dude.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 February 2004 06:06 (sixteen years ago) link

As I said on the other thread, you guys probably know more about Finnish music than I do. Electronic music enthusiasts are probably familiar with Pan Sonic (aka Panasonic) and other Sähkö minimalists. The Finnish electro has been vibrant for quite some while, you could check out Op:l Bastards (aka Opel Bastards), Mr. Velcro Fastener or Imatran Voima. Circle fans should also check out Ektroverde and Kuusumun Profeetta (Moon Fog Prophet). both on Ektro Records, which both feature Circle members. Ektroverde is sort of a jazz-rock combo, while Kuusumun Profeetta mixes prog, jazz and naivism. And if you dig the latter, you can try to the find the two LP's of the late Pekka Streng, who was a big influence to Kuusumun Profeetta.

I also listened to some stuff by a group called Fintelligens, which seems to be Finnish pop-hip-hop, and I enjoyed it immensely. This probably makes me very uncool.

Probably, since Fintelligens is the most popular rap crew in Finland... Their production work is actually among the best in Finland, but their lyrics are rather daft. They even recorded the theme song for last year's ice hockey world championship cup! But I guess the lyrics don't really matter to you, since you can't understand them anyway.

Other Finnish rap artists worthy of checking out are Kapasiteettiyksikkö, Redrama (who raps in English), Ceebrolistics, Memmy Posse, Mariska and Pikku G, the teenage rapper sensation.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 February 2004 07:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Kapasiteettiyksikkö

Now that is the koolest artist's moniker I've seen for a long while.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 19 February 2004 10:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, even for a Finnish word that's pretty hard to swallow. It means "capacity unit", which sounds a lot more undie than what Kapasiteettiyksikkö actually is.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Aside from the wonderful Circle, just about the only other Finnish thing I have is a seven inch by Liimanarina called 'Maailman tylsin vittumaisuus'. I have no idea what the heck it's about, but it sure as shit rocks.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 19 February 2004 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

'vittumaisuus'?
heh, i could guess but then Tuomas can tell you exactly, I'm sure...

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 19 February 2004 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

"Maailman tylsin vittumaisuus" = "the most boring fuckedness of the world". I have troubles translating "vittumaisuus", because it can mean both "fucked-up" and "fuckin' horrible", and it can be used both with people and situations. "Liimanarina" is a wonderful name for a band, by the way, it means "glue creak".

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 February 2004 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Glue creak? Yay! Thanks Tuomas...

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 19 February 2004 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link

"Witchcraft" by Magyar Posse is totally awesome. I love finding recommendations on this board.

I sure wish I knew how to sing in Finnish so I could sing along to my Varttina cd.

Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Saturday, 21 February 2004 05:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't forget about Kimmo Rapatii aka Monojunk/Detroit Diesel and his label Dum records.

Former Supposed So Called Nihilist Teenage Drug Disco Addiction Counselor (mjt), Saturday, 21 February 2004 08:25 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Don't forget Ovuca!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 05:06 (sixteen years ago) link

UUSI FANTASIA, anyone?

Kaiser of Köln, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 09:49 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...
are Disco (the band, not the genre) finnish? Great synthpop, kinda Electronic(the band, not the genre)-ish

randy mamola, Saturday, 14 August 2004 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Disco are Finnish, I believe. "Toiseen Suuntaan" was a bit of a hit in Finland, rightly so, it's ace.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 14 August 2004 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually Hedningarna are more half swedish, half finnish. It matters.

strom (strom), Saturday, 14 August 2004 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

varttina = only finnish act i'm even vaguely familiar with.

very good live, tho i am not sure if i liked them - they had intense stage presence, vocals were amazing, band was pretty good but i felt more interested than won over. i do not offer this as any sort of definitive opinion on them let alone finnish music.

H (Heruy), Saturday, 14 August 2004 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, i forgot i've also heard Kimmo Pohjonen, the accordionist.

H (Heruy), Saturday, 14 August 2004 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...
there's an interesting article on the Finnish underground in the current issue of "The Wire", complete with lots of nice pictures of Finnish people.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Fin hits for me from this year are:
Islaja & Sagor och Swing, both of whom I heard about from ILM. Yay!

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Beherit!

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
English lyrics to "Mataleena" from Varttina's new Miero:

Mataleena, that young maid,
that bitter and twisted young maid -
her heart is darkness,
a land where nothing came to good.

She'd had three baby boys,
three she'd given birth to:
three swaddled bairns
she'd had for her own.

Mataleena, that young maid,
bitter and twisted young maid -
her heart is darkness,
a memory of old evil.

One of them she set fire to.
He became a bright-glowing coal.
It was fire that lulled him to sleep,
flames that made moan for him.

The second she threw in the water,
held him under the waves.
It was the sea-swell that rocked him,
dark ocean that took him.

She dug a pit in the woods for the third,
laid him to sleep in a grove.
His cradle is birch-trees, swaying,
they watch over his everlasting sleep.

That's what she did with her three baby boys,
the three she'd given birth to.

Varttina have cool lyrics

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Dominique, that link to Digelius took me all the way back ! To the Helsinki store.
So this is the thread where I mention Mauri Antero (MA) Numminen (incidentally my mother's maiden name, yes that makes me part Finn) and big up Tuomas for mentioning the OP:L Bastards.

MA Numminen ! People, read this and weep :
http://www.ma-numminen.net/eng/who.shtml

blunt (blunt), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Tivol!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Also here's a Stylus quote on Erkki Kurenniemi, with probably more at Phinnweb. There's a DVD with pioneering dance & electronics pieces of his, that also features a Pan Sonic live set (which will blow holes in your speakers or give you permanent tinnitus).

Besides developing a range of synthesizers that aimed to radicalize the performer’s relationship to sound and image (including the DIMI-T, an instrument controlled by electrodes that measured changes in brain activity, and the DIMI-0, which transformed video images into music in real-time – built in 1971), Kurenniemi also created the world’s first commercially manufactured and marketed microcomputer in 1973. And that’s not to mention his forays into the field of electronic music and media art – or his career as a professor of Nuclear Physics.

bluntinen (blunt), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Pharaoh Overlord!

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.deepturtle.net/index.html

name (eman), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Islaja's 2nd album is shimmering around in my world right now like a benevolent ghost, just chillin on the sofa with a cup of tea.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 13 April 2006 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

M.A Numminen is a really funny figure in the Finnish music scene, even though he was a pioneer of experimental and electronic music in the 60's, he's maybe best known as a children's singer. He and his partner Pedro Hietanen (formerly in the seventies prog band Wigwam) used dress up as a rabbit and a cat, and sing such kiddie songs as "Henkilöauto synnyttää" ("An SUV Is Giving Birth") "Jänikset Maailmankartalle" ("Rabbits to the Map"), and "Kärpänen istui katossa" ("A Fly Sat on the Roof"). I once went into his gis at a local punk bar, it was pretty incredible: he and Hietanen had dressed up as the rabbit and the cat, they sang nothing but children's songs, and the whole bar was filled with twentysomething indie folks who all knew the songs by heart and sang them out loud.

In sixties he was arrested for obscenity, due to singing passages out of a sex education pamphlet. Other sixties songs of his featured lyrics out of a horse grooming manual and the Finnish law for obscene publications. He's also recorded old swing tunes in Finnish, as well as Baccara's "Yes Sir, I Can Boogie". Last time I saw him sing was at my faculty's semester opening party, where he sang The Faculty of Social Science's Set of Principles and Scenario for the Future.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 13 April 2006 08:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, and he also has a "techno" LP called M.A. Numminen goes Tech-No, though it's synth pop really.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 13 April 2006 09:16 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

So. Any good Finnish boybands about?

I might start a thread on INTERNATIONAL BOYBANDS.

Whenever I watch the Finnish channel at the foax it does somewhat confirm the stereotype by CONSTANTLY showing some sort of soap where people sit around the table and stare gloomily into their coffee for hours (it gets sort of addictive when you can't leave the house for a couple of hours).

Sarah, Thursday, 6 September 2007 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link

(ie I haven't found any Finnish pop music programmes yet).

Sarah, Thursday, 6 September 2007 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I think there's only been one proper Finnish boyband (in the Take That / Backstreet Boys mode), and that was a nineties band called XL5. Unfortunately I can't find their videos on Youtube, but you can enjoy this great song about Helsinki city boys instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEVuUql_yBA

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 September 2007 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link

So. Any good Finnish boybands about?

N Sinki?

Tom D., Thursday, 6 September 2007 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I think these days the closest equivalent to a Finnish boyband are glam rock bands with young, good-looking guys. The most popular ones are Negative and Lovex, I think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRel_1BEFsA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDfm2IbNpIE

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 September 2007 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link

As far I know, their basic fanbase is the same as that of proper boybands, i.e. (pre)teen girls who dig their looks.

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 September 2007 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Btw, lately I've been diggind old Finnish schlagers, and whaddayouknow, someone has put up a fan video for my favourite tune from the fifties. It even has an English summary of the lyrics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGZq57zEY9g

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 September 2007 11:23 (thirteen years ago) link

The singer, Tapio Rautavaara, also won the gold metal for javelin at the 1948 summer olympics, so he was quite the renaissance man.

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 September 2007 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Other famed Finnish scenes:

- Old-school extreme metal. Mostly death (Xysma, Demilich, Demigod, Lubricant, Amorphis), doom (Thergothon, Unholy, Skepticism) and a few black metal (Beherit, Impaled Nazarene).

- "Suomi saundi": a subgenre of psychedelic trance spearheaded by Texas Faggott, on Exogenic Records.

no-nonsense, Thursday, 6 September 2007 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I've seen Texas Faggot live years ago, they did a fine job in turning one of the worst genres in electronic music history into something tolerable.

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 September 2007 11:36 (thirteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3giCNAU_NYM

I don't normally share any Finnish music in here, but this song/video has hit me harder than anything from this country in a long time... It straddles a very fine line between eroticism and gothic death-love (the title translates to "open your hair, Medusa" - the narrator is welcoming Medusa to turn her into stone so she can enter oblivion) but never becomes corny, just amazing.

Tuomas, Friday, 11 September 2020 17:58 (one week ago) link


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