Steely Dan: "Steely Dan's name has been popping up as a hip musical crush. Remember, this glossy bop-pop was the indifferent aristocracy to punk rock's stone-throwing in the late 70's. People fought

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There just aren't enough Steely Dan threads on here.

this quote was re: Two Against Nature. I'm sure the source of this is obvious. So is it the truth, or is it a baffling misrepresentation of a great band/duo of maniacs?

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 13 February 2004 01:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Most ridiculous thing I've ever read on ILM, including the profession of love for The Rapture, Al Sharpton, and prostate tickling.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 13 February 2004 01:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It's a quote from pfork, btw.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 13 February 2004 01:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Figures.

Dan I., Friday, 13 February 2004 01:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Sorry but Steely Dan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the vast majority of so-called punk rock music.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yep

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Steely Dan may be incredibly boring and overrated, but I'd still have to say that that quote is completely ridiculous. "Fought and died"? You mean played guitar and OD'd on heroin like morons? OH OKEY!

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It's all wrong, anyway. They were a bunch of scathing smart-asses whose "glossy bop-pop" got much sample-love later and deservedly so.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I dunno..."Cylctron" vs. "Do It Again"...that's a toughie, yessiree bob.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yeah...

Walter Becker >>>>> Johnny Thunders
AJA >>>>> Never Mind the Bollocks
"Hey Nineteen" >>>>>> "London Calling"

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

'Steely Dan may be incredibly boring and overrated, but I'd still have to say that that quote is completely ridiculous. "Fought and died"? You mean played guitar and OD'd on heroin like morons? OH OKEY!'

You're incredibly boring and overrated

pete s, Friday, 13 February 2004 02:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Possibly not overrated

pete s, Friday, 13 February 2004 02:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Well lead me to the non-boring Steely Dan, I may have heard the wrong stuff. Show me the light.

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Deacon Blues!"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 13 February 2004 02:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

non-boring: all of it

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Can't Buy a Thrill
Gaucho

These bookends to their - original - career are funpacked, not as knowing as what comes in between. Though some may disagree violently.

pete s, Friday, 13 February 2004 02:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Also download 'Josie'(from Aja). Tell me this isn't the coolest, streetest, dirtiest, sweetest thing ever.

pete s, Friday, 13 February 2004 02:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

aor at its most unimaginative...

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

zzzzzzzzzz

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

where the fuck is d4rn1elle when we need him?

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

They could play.. Then, so what, so could the entire Californian studio mafia too. More importantly, Steely Dan wrote classy songs, and they are one of still very few examples of a band breaking up, reuniting several years later and still being able to make great albums.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

punk wasn't necessarily about making consumer artifacts though. its like comparing the results of an evening out (vomit, scars, vague memories) with the results of staying in and doing a bit of knitting.

mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The pfork quote is obv. outdated ignorant crap. Really John Darnielle could explain why best. It betrays a hatred of the musical forms which the Dan use/are influenced by, the fact most happen to be black in origin is irrelevant, the fact that that they swing isn't. John Lydon was a fan of ABBA and Van Der Graaf Generator.
He didn't die; Sid Vicious did.

pete s, Friday, 13 February 2004 02:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

aw don't knock prostate tickling :(

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i saw them right when they first went back out on tour and they just sounded amazing. just one great song after another.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

look, they were studio dudes. there is a *reason* they were studio dudes. they lacked the imagination and spark to do anything truly great. they are an energyless study in basic competence.

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Well put by Geir.

Great band. Once again, a Pitchdork writer postures but doesn't offer anything in the way of interesting musical insight. But hey maybe one of these days we'll get a "reassessment" of them too.

I saw 'em on the reunion tour as well! I drove three hours to see them in Indianapolis, in fact, because I couldn't get tickets for CHicago. Good show overall, although I will admit to being a bit disappointed at the time, probably just cuz I had built it up so much in my mind.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

they are an energyless study in basic competence.

If you want to insult them, fine, but accusing them of mere "basic competence" is a tad silly.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

'look, they were studio dudes. there is a *reason* they were studio dudes. they lacked the imagination and spark to do anything truly great.'

Where have your favourite bands made their greatest albums? In their kitchens? On a beach in Spain?

pete s, Friday, 13 February 2004 02:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

not really. what is the difference between a musician and brilliant musician? a musician is "competent". a brilliant musician has a command of songwriting and a creative spark thatgoes beyond competence. LISTEN to Steely Dan for God's sake, how can you argue this?

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

uh, great tunes, witty lyrics?

mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

where?

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

XTC, Prefab Sprout, Scritti Politti and Todd Rundgren are studio acts too. And they are all great. Just like Steely Dan.

Not to mention The Beatles from "Revolver" onwards.....

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Steely Dan's fifth album, The Royal Scam, was released on both sides of the Atlantic in May 1976. It was a nine-song collection which, despite Gary Katz's criticism of ABC Studios, had again been recorded there with additional sessions at A & R Studios in New York.

"By now, Becker and Fagen's pool of musicians had expanded into a veritable orchestra of session players. They thought nothing of flying a guitar player or a drummer -- or indeed both -- across the country to play little more than a few bars of one song which might not even make it onto disc. Expense didn't enter into it; their foremost consideration was to find the right stylistic match and to create as perfect a rendition of each composition as was humanly possible. Within a few years they would take their obsessiveness even further, using the latest technology to create absolute millisecond-perfect drum tracks, using either a drum machine, a computer, a live drummer, or a combination of all three.

"At the sessions for The Royal Scam, Fagen and Becker began to record each tune with six or seven different rhythm sections, switching the players around to try almost every configuration possible. They would record all the songs with Rick Marotta and then record them all over again with Bernard Purdie to see what each drummer could bring to the tunes.

"Bass players, guitar players, and keyboard players would flit in and out of a variety of studios so often they never knew what was going on. Different combinations of musicians were playing all the songs on successive nights and no one knew in advance -- including sometimes Becker and Fagen -- who (if anyone) would end up on the final track. On some frustrating occasions, after countless unsuccessful takes, a song would be dropped because Becker and Fagen decided that none of the multitude of efforts had come close to their vision of the song. Often Becker and Fagen's microscopic fastidiousness bewildered the session players, who thought every facet of the track sounded fine but which for some reason Becker and Fagen refused to accept. And no amount of talking could persuade them otherwise.

"Fagen and Becker took their controlled experimentation further with each album; it would reach its limit on Gaucho when it became increasingly unlikely that they would ever be satisfied with virtually any basic track. During Gaucho they employed an astonishing forty musicians and singers and worked on one song for so long and listened back to it so many times that they actually wore the oxide off the tape."

-from Steely Dan: Reelin' in the Years, by Brian Sweet, Omnibus Press 1994

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

best driving music this side of AC/DC

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

(that's not a response to anyone, that's just a passage i really like)

(xpost)

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think Bernard Purdie is Pretty brilliant.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Steely Dan fans are inexplicable to me. This is a mediocre band at best.

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I don't have the energy to try to persuade anyone, but I think they made some great music, and their songwriting actually stands out as a strength.

Feel free not to like them.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i do, i do!

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I always recall JBR's story about hearing some random Charlie Parker cd and realizing that a couple bars in the middle of one of his solos were transcribed to form that cool little coda at the end of "Parker's Band". I think that is brilliant. I always meant to try to hear the Parker cut.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Steely dan's music, with it's incredible sonic palette, sly hooks and phat beats is almost tailor made for the Timberland/Neptunes era. They've won and they'll continue to win.

pete s, Friday, 13 February 2004 02:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Broheems: The Parker cut is called "Bongo Beep" and is easily slskable.

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the burden of proof is on you, Orbit dude. You ain't doing too good so far.

dan roolz, Friday, 13 February 2004 02:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Cool! I will seek it out.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 13 February 2004 03:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

LISTEN to Steely Dan for God's sake, how can you argue this?

LEAVE GOD OUT OF THIS.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 13 February 2004 03:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

SD are massively brilliant, lyrically and musically, and I think they're actually a lot more diverse than people give them credit for. It's rock/pop music as subversive satire or really wry melancholy.

This is the first time I'm squarely in Geir's corner! :o

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 13 February 2004 03:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the opening quote is ridiculous, of course. but i wonder aloud to the people "who were there" (mistahs sinkah, kogan, and currie?) -- was steely dan one of the enemies of the punkers? i would think that they'd just have ignored them instead of actively sneering or abusing them.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 13 February 2004 03:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I loved them when I saw them on tour last year. "Everything Must Go" features so many lyrics that catch my ear or crack me up, and I'm not much of a lyrics person. It's such a great concept album, like midlife crisis as metaphor for the end of the world. Or maybe the other way around.

Oddly enough, the only other Dan album I listen to regularly is "The Royal Scam," which I feel has always gotten short shrift. I once heard a DJ mix in "The Fez," and the crowd went nuts. The interview I once did with Becker/Fagen was a hoot, too.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 13 February 2004 03:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

that early 70's band rocked live. or at least on the stuff i've heard. i would have loved to see that.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 13 February 2004 03:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

So sad right now, man
A transformative influence
SD forever linked for me with the biggest sustained creative jag I ever had, mid-20s, drawing all day every day, citizen steely dan box never not on the player
67? Fuck.

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

like for a lot of y'all, the dan were truly formative for me

goddamn

r.i.p.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

A giant. Rest in peace.

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i listened to Aja quite a lot in my teens.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Well along in the 21st hour
When the whole damn grid goes down
This is how a party gets started
In for a penny — in for a pound
All at once the whole joint goes quiet
And all the wavy lines go straight
One fool among fools is wondering
What happens if I die too late?
Get back with your dimestore nihilism
Big daddy's on a glory run
Gettin' down on the cellular level
Just in case I got to call someone

Darkling down — on a darkling plain
In the dim dank night of the pissin'-down rain
Darkling down — on the balls of his ass
While he prays and waits for the storm to pass

Lemme show you where the good thing happens
It's a barbershop in Inglewood
Too bad we won't get past the bouncer
Sadly I've been banned for good
There's a coffee shop right ‘round the corner
The proprietor knows my name
Cup of joe and a Vicks inhaler
Now you're ready for the big boy game
Steady son come seven come eleven
If either one of us can count that high
Muscatel if the deal gets dicey
Milk and honey in the by and by

Darkling down — it's a damn disgrace
Going round and round in a very small place
Darkling down — with a hole in his soul
That he can't explain and he can't control

For the fun or for the money
For the fuck of it or just because
Listen friend this is no damn picnic
But let's imagine for a minute that it was
Who will feast on this buzzard's banquet?
Who will render my heroic bust?
Who will choke on my lachrymose musings?
Who will eat my zero dust?
Who will wear this puke-streaked tunic?
Who shall gorge on this cup of spleen?
Who will sing about the good bad and ugly?
And all and everything in between?

Darkling down — this is god's good man
On his hands and knees livin' god's good plan
Darkling down — and we don't know still
When he'll come around if he ever will
Darkling down — on a zero-G dive
And we just can't say will the fool survive
Darkling down — in a seven-G turn
Glowing like a coal in the afterburn

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

These were mostly written by Walter, right?

To: Jann Wenner, Ahmet Ertegun, and The Commissioners
Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame
Date: 6/97

From: Donald Fagen and Walter Becker
DBA Steely Dan, founded c. 1971

Gentlemen:

It has come to our attention that we are in possession of the largest privately owned collection of historically significant 3M digital multitrack tape recorders in the United States. As you are no doubt aware, machines of this type were the very first digital multitrack recorders available to the recording artist, and consequentially were used to make the earliest digital pop recordings. These particular machines (until recently in use at our private studios in New York City and the state of Hawaii) were used in the making of many historic albums, including the celebrated "Bop Til You Drop" by Ry Cooder, and Donald's "The Nightfly". It has recently been determined that the historical value of these fine recording instruments is so great as to eclipse their value in an actual workaday studio setting. It is our great pleasure to offer these recorders to the Rock'N'Roll Hall of Fame Museum, so that they may be viewed and enjoyed by all and so that they may be preserved for posterity. We are asking for no compensation in return for this donation, except the usual tax deductions which are outlined in "schedule A", enclosed.

Naturally the well-known and loved-by -millions Steely Dan albums for which we are famous were not recorded on these machines - after all, our career began in 1971, almost a decade before the advent of this digital technology, 1971 being the year we released "Can't Buy A Thrill", which included the beloved hits "Do It Again" and "Reelin' In The Years".

Incidentally it has been mentioned to us that we would be eligible for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next year.

Back to the 3M machines - we have at least three multitracks and a 4 track - it would be hard to put a dollar value on these rare old beauties for the purposes of determining the appropriate tax deduction. No doubt there are experts at the Museum who could help us to ascertain just how valuable these machines truly are at this time. Written confirmation of our suspicion that the current value of these machines is in excess of $800,000 (they would be worth a lot more than that if they worked or even could be powered up) would be of great value to us. In fact, we would be willing to donate as much as $1500.00 to the Museum in exchange for such a document.

Incidentally, the "big green monsters" would make a splendid centerpiece for an exhibit celebrating the "Digital Age" or the "Age of Dan" or anything like that.

Furthermore, we are aware of the furor over this year's televised inductions into the Hall. In order to avoid any confusion in the event of our timely induction next year, we would like to clarify the following points:
1. It is our position that inductees who perform at a televised event must be adequately recompensed for their services. Anything short of that is un-American and contrary to the spirit of rock'n'roll. To wit, we would extend the traditional Hand-Across-The-Flyovers to an A.F.of M. brother who has taken a similar stand in this matter, Mr. Neil Young, and would also mention in passing that our fee for such an event would be in the middle six figure range, if that's okay.

2. We were wondering: is it necessarily the case that our entire original band would be inducted into the Hall, or would it be possible for just the two of us to receive this singular honor? After all, those other guys have been outee for a long time. In any case, it would not be possible to assemble the entire original ensemble - some members are definitively and permanently not available. If an entire band is needed, what about our current band? We are just getting ready to go in the studio with these guys and they play just great and look great too. As of about a month ago they were working with the fine Italian "blue-eyed"soul singer Pino Danielli. You're going to love them, we're absolutely sure.

3. If the original bandmembers are absolutely necessary, perhaps some of them could receive their statues or belts or whatever it is they get, off-camera, backstage, at some other place and/or time? What do you think about something like that?

4. You may be aware that, like Joni Mitchell, we have mounted an exhaustive search for any long lost female love-children of ours who may be out there somewhere, working away in anonymity at some modelling agency or as prospective starlets or whatever. If either one of us strikes paydirt in this department, you can bet that we will not be available for the induction ceremony, any more than Joni was. In this case, points 1-3 mentioned above would be non-operative.

5. We are taking the liberty of enclosing a check from our corporate account in the amount of $10,000.00 made out to Jann Wenner in this mailing so as to get the ball rolling sooner rather than later. We hope that will be okay. And by the way, Jann, that crate of homemade honey mustard is already on its way to you via FedEx, overnight priority 1, directly from our tables to your'n, so to speak. Enjoy!

Thank you, Commissioners and fellow music lovers!

Donald Fagen & Walter Becker
Founding members, Steely Dan

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I saw this thread bumped and the number of new answers and thought it was just ILM being ILM. This news fucking sucks.

RIP.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Just :(

I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm gutted, Steely Dan have been a favourite for me since my early twenties. RIP.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Steely Dan means a lot to me. On a personal level, my friends and I used to hang at each other's places in rural IL or in Rockford and jam all these classic rock LPs and we jammed Steely Dan more than anyone else. And everyone we knew loved them. And we weren't teenagers in the '70s, we were '90s kids and we mostly heard them via parents (not mine; they were folkies) and classic rock radio or popping up more than you'd imagine at the local pool hall. We all had different favorite albums. Mine was always Countdown to Ecstasy. My one friend, his favorite song was always Sign In Stranger. It was about the way Fagen sang that title in such a strangled way, and the imagery of "Pepe has a scar from ear to ear." My other friend, his band covered a couple songs from Can't Buy a Thrill. When I moved to L.A. there were a bunch of well wishes from everyone that invariably included hopes for good times inspired by the songs from Side 1 of Gaucho. They started off as one of the best NYC bands and then wound up the best and for their milieu the most *accurate* L.A. band, which is no small feat. But they kind of take me back home, lots of wood paneled rec rooms that smell like weed and air freshener, parents out partying somewhere, us winding down a night listening to Donald and Walter, among others (but like I said, no others as much as them.)

nomar, Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

A dollop of Walter Becker genius. Tap asked him to write a little something technical re BREAK LIKE THE WIND & he did. pic.twitter.com/DX8XPz4Oo3

— Michael McKean (@MJMcKean) September 3, 2017

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 September 2017 19:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

god that's so good

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 September 2017 19:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Hearing SD everywhere I go today: coffee shop, movie theater, grocery store, every rock station on the dial...

flappy bird, Sunday, 3 September 2017 19:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

RIP

Week of Wonders (Ross), Sunday, 3 September 2017 20:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Forest Hills represent !

calstars, Monday, 4 September 2017 02:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Noooo... ;_:

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 September 2017 06:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

man, this is a bummer. RIP. this band has been one of my great musical discoveries of the past few years, just digging in and hearing more and more with each spin. incredible music, incredible songwriter, incredible player. seriously kicking myself for not seeing them the last time they came through town.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 4 September 2017 16:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

His production on China Crisis' Flaunt the Imperfection is OTM and a huge part of the reason why it's their best album.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 19:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

^^^

doug watson, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 20:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah no argument there

niels, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 20:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Got my tickets to see SD next month in the mail today.... hard to imagine the mood at these shows

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 20:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

http://www.walterbecker.com/img/dad.jpg

Really love this pic from his daughter's tribute:
http://www.walterbecker.com/daughters.html

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 21:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'll have to check out some of Becker's productions. His solos on SD records were marvelous - snarling and mordant with sweetness and pathos peeking through at unexpected moments, just like in SD's lyrics. You could see why he took a lot of solos on their records even when Fagen and Becker had the best studio players in the world at their beck and call - Becker's guitar put the duo's sensibility across as succinctly as Fagen's whine. But don't discount his bass lines either - "Deacon Blues," to my ears, is probably his single greatest performance. Or his lacerating wit - it's my understanding that a lot of the lyrics were his, and despite many obits' puzzling assertion that he played the background in their public persona it's also my impression that he was a fair bit more responsible than Fagen in crafting that persona - certainly in the last two decades he took the lead in terms of their online presence, liner notes, pr and public correspondence, etc.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 21:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

much respect, brother walter

I know you're out there
w/rage in your eyes and
your megaphones
saying all is forgiven
mad dog surrender pic.twitter.com/bDtwWBalFl

— mike watt (@wattfrompedro) September 5, 2017

you want the song, huh? of course SO much about music! https://t.co/P5axyyq69H luckless pedestrian - his he w/who or whatever... or are you? pic.twitter.com/UocKZMpHiN

— mike watt (@wattfrompedro) September 5, 2017

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

. But don't discount his bass lines either - "Deacon Blues," to my ears, is probably his single greatest performance. Or his lacerating wit - it's my understanding that a lot of the lyrics were his, and despite many obits' puzzling assertion that he played the background in their public persona it's also my impression that he was a fair bit more responsible than Fagen in crafting that persona - certainly in the last two decades he took the lead in terms of their online presence, liner notes, pr and public correspondence, etc.

The biggest clue is Fagen's solo work. Nary a trace of sardonicism in The Nightfly, Kamakiriad and the rest, replaced with a perfectly modulated irony.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 22:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I had no idea this made it back online:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=dimyNC1BytY

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Goddamit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dimyNC1BytY

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK7QO9Hx3xM

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

haha! yeah I love that little doc/bonus thing. the women in it are great. Walter is hilarious

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

holy shit

Strangest thing I learned in wake of Walter Becker’s death: Phil Hartman (of SNL/Simpsons) designed cover for ‘Aja'https://t.co/TxlTd3ZxGq pic.twitter.com/aF4joOgIFY

— James Fallows (@JamesFallows) September 6, 2017

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 September 2017 00:28 (one week ago) Permalink

iirc Hartman did design some album covers but the Aja attribution is an internet mistake that spread widely

President Keyes, Thursday, 7 September 2017 00:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Seems like most of his work was for Poco and America, poor guy.

https://www.discogs.com/artist/914811-Phil-Hartman?filter_anv=0&subtype=Visual&type=Credits

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 7 September 2017 00:57 (one week ago) Permalink

RIP

this is pretty sad. i am only just now discovering the music of Steely Dan. i started listening to The Royal Scam, Katy Lied, Aja, Countdown to Ecstasy, this year. i really love the music. the groves are all very tight, it is very locked in. it is very evocative Night Time Driving music to me. thank you for the music

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 September 2017 01:00 (one week ago) Permalink

"Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there's gas in the car."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2017 03:11 (one week ago) Permalink

The covers for Poco’s Legend and Steely Dan’s Aja look like they could be classic album covers, in a world where the albums they were associated with were a lot better.

Regardless of the misattribution, what the fuck kind of Aja opinion is this?

how's life, Thursday, 7 September 2017 12:07 (one week ago) Permalink

I prefer every Dan album that came before Aja to Aja but yeah, that's a silly thing to say given that Aja is generally seen as not only Steely Dan's finest work but also a canonical classic.

Gaucho on the other hand...

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:17 (one week ago) Permalink

rules and is amazing, I know

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:21 (one week ago) Permalink

let's not do this again

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:21 (one week ago) Permalink

...has its fans but was perfectly judged at the time and has become grossly overrated since.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:27 (one week ago) Permalink

I've had 'Peg' stuck in my head all day.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:28 (one week ago) Permalink

Michael McDonald on Walter Becker:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7957597/michael-mcdonald-walter-becker-steely-dan-interview

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 September 2017 22:33 (one week ago) Permalink

That was nice. Gave new dimensions to the Becker i knew of.

President Keyes, Friday, 8 September 2017 02:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Very nice. Thanks Ned

calstars, Friday, 8 September 2017 02:36 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah, that was really honest and heartfelt

intheblanks, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:15 (one week ago) Permalink

many xps @nomar, i also grew up listening to the dan in northern IL (rockford and freeport) during the 90s, lots of fond memories. honestly, i'm surprised by how sad I've felt about Becker's death.

intheblanks, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:17 (one week ago) Permalink

Such a humble and life-affirming tribute from McDonald

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 8 September 2017 09:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Are there any good books on the Dan?

I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Friday, 8 September 2017 10:13 (one week ago) Permalink

There's this Barney Hoskyns edited Dan anthology coming out soon that looks pretty good - contributors include Charles Shaar Murray, Robert Palmer, Ian MacDonald, Bud Scoppa, Penny Valentine, Fred Schruers, Sylvie Simmons and Michael Watts:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1472127552

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Friday, 8 September 2017 10:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Ooh yes, that would hit the spot, I guess - love a lot of those writers' work

I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Friday, 8 September 2017 10:33 (one week ago) Permalink

I was at a deep house night in L.A. around 1999-2000 and Doc Martin dropped a house remix of "New Frontier". It was revelatory for me at the time. I went from "fuck that shit" to "grooooovy mannnn".

yesca, Friday, 8 September 2017 14:48 (one week ago) Permalink


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