RFI: Yellow Magic Orchestra

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I've only got BGM. How much better is, say, Naughty Boys, relatively? I liked some of the songs off of BGM a lot, but I didn't feel that any of them really compared to....well, ok. I always heard them referred to as "The Japanese Kraftwerk". Kraftwerk is probably one of my favorite bands ever, so it's a lot to live up to, but - nothing off of BGM compared to Kraftwerk to me (Or if it did, only to Electric Cafe-era Kraftwerk).

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Thursday, 2 November 2006 06:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Naughty Boys is the album where YMO really found their sound. It's also a lot more cohesive than the grab-bag of BGM. I don't think of them as sounding like Kraftwerk at all by '83 and '84. It's shiny, happy synth-pop.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 2 November 2006 07:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Technodelic seems to get seriously short shrift

It's great! "Epilogue" should reduce many a grown man to sobbing.

LC (Damian), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Zachary, you should check out "Insomnia" off Solid State Survivor. Patrick's right in that by Naughty Boys (and Service before it), the band doesn't really have the Japanese Kraftwerk thing going on at all, though I'm not sure with his belief that it's their "best" era or where they found their sound. It's just different, more overtly pop.

with "Taiso" birthing Nick Rhodes perhaps even more than Richard Barbieri ever could

Clearly I meant "Light in Darkness" here.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, does anyone know a good comp of theirs with rarities (single mixes, etc.)? I was eyeballing Overseas Collection with some envy, but that's utterly impossible to find for anyone outside of Japan. Likewise for Techno Bible...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

can someone recommend some other Haruomi Hosono projects aside from YMO (solo or otherwise)?

amateurist, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Haruomi Hosono

damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Paraiso is really good. Tropical music with a bizarre electronic twist. Very odd and affecting, and quite catchy as well.
Cochin Moon is an early electronic classic. Really neat stuff.
His Nokto de la Galaskia Fervojo soundtrack is chilling, it's minimal (as is a lot of Hosono's stuff) but very cold and moving. Love it.

frogbs, Monday, 15 November 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

so glad this was revived. just found a mediafire folder with all the albums and needed some guidance.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 15 November 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

really loving these stripped down live versions YMO have been playing this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NTnIJ61z1w

missingNO, Saturday, 25 December 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Love the synth trumpet!

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 26 December 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Whoah, YMO doing "Thank You For Talkin' to Me Africa"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWPbDsPYxZM&feature=related

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 26 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEZ3VxGWwjM

excellent video (if you can ignore the camera effects). kinda weird to see a shorthaired 70's Hosono funking out by himself. they really did keep it tight though.

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

amazing find

original bgm, Monday, 1 April 2013 00:20 (eleven years ago) link

i think cindy crawford is in one of those!!

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2013 02:10 (eleven years ago) link

hah, she is! I caught her posing dramatically with a piano while randomly skipping around.

original bgm, Monday, 1 April 2013 04:38 (eleven years ago) link

Somebody really needs to write me a good, thorough examination on YMO and the Japanese New Wave (400 pages at least). I like the process of rooting around and finding out little bits and pieces of information but I need some cultural CONTEXT dammit!

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

I'm thinking that Nick Kent (the guy who runs technopop.info) could probably do something like that. YMO are interesting enough to warrant their own book but Japan is such a small country that all that stuff really ran into each other at some point. Like there's 3 degrees of seperation between pretty much every one of those bands. Most of it is probably through Harry Hosono, who seemingly appeared on everything that came out of Japan from 1976 to 1990 or so.

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

Too true, Hosono is a walking infographic.

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

a book like that would leapfrogbs to the very top of my reading list, for real

your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

it's weird how popular ymo seem to be when reading about them, but every time i've asked a native japanese if they've heard of them, they haven't. maybe it's a generational thing?

君ちゃん (clouds), Monday, 1 April 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

I've experienced this a couple of times with some Japanese aged under thirty or so, although they seem to know Sakamoto for some reason.

What's interesting is that if they are aware of YMO they're often interested that a westerner would be bothered listening to 'old' Japanese music, or even Japanese music period.

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it seems like japanese don't have the same retromania that americans do, but i have no idea really

君ちゃん (clouds), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

Somebody really needs to write me a good, thorough examination on YMO and the Japanese New Wave (400 pages at least). I like the process of rooting around and finding out little bits and pieces of information but I need some cultural CONTEXT dammit!

― Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, April 1, 2013 5:42 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've not felt the urge to write about music much over the last few years, but I *really really* want to write a longform piece on Jun Togawa. Never going to happen without a rudimentary knowledge of Japanese, though.

emil.y, Monday, 1 April 2013 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

If you want to blow the mind of a 40+ Japanese person, tell 'em you love Ippu-Do or Guernica.

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

I know a lot of big music nerds who have no idea who Kraftwerk are, for instance...some people just don't really care about anything older than they are

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

You know, I heard an phone interview on Resonance last week with Akiko Yano (interspersed with some of her music), it was a show called Clear Spot. Maybe you could speak directly to Jun herself? If she speaks Eigo of course.

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

emily - have you read this?
http://www.groundzeromongkok.com/2010/12/memory-and-gender-in-music-of-jun.html

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

oops, XP

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

Frogs, yeah, it's a good piece (and I love the toilet ad it links to), but I want more! I guess really I want something book-length, with a really good biographical content as well as analysis.

emil.y, Monday, 1 April 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

basically, a book version of this would be the most amazing thing:
http://park10.wakwak.com/~techno/jgenealogy.html

original bgm, Monday, 1 April 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

and yeah, togawa is really fascinating. would read all of these imaginary books.

original bgm, Monday, 1 April 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

Wow - I need to hear that Akiko Yano Resonance show.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 1 April 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link

CJV - I imagine it'll turn up in the Resonance 104 Soundcloud page if you check there in the next few days.

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

Japan is such a small country

It is?

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

Not in terms of population, but in size - like in the US, in the 70's you had the Detroit scene, and the New York scene, and the Nashville scene, and the Chicago sound...in Japan it kinda feels like everybody knew each other and played on each others' records.

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

Of course theres no book about any of this so I'm just guessing here. Didn't Takahashi and Hosono produce or otherwise appear on all the YEN records stuff, which made up a large portion of Japan's new wave scene?

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...
three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YjYEJ9WHt4

many machines on ilx (MaresNest), Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link

awesome!

clouds, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link

(cuts off halfway through, but you get the idea)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkPeDQKRpEk

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Friday, 25 October 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link

The syndrum break in that BBC version is proper!

MaresNest, Friday, 25 October 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

eight months pass...
three months pass...

Confession, I have gone since about 1998 thinking that the record is called 'X∞Multiples' but it's *not* it is 'X∞Multiplies' what the fuck? I have a tour poster and everything, I feel so stupid.

The 5 FPs (MaresNest), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link

For your ignorance you must relinquish your tour poster to me!

brimstead, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link

i thought it was "multiples" too until recently

tribe? de la? no "humpty dance?" (clouds), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

I have owned two copies of this album for about a decade and also thought it was 'X∞Multiples' until 5 minutes ago so you are not alone

soref, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

Naughty Boys always ends SO SOON.

There's a much improved translation of Lotus Love over at the blog:

https://grainsparrow.blogspot.com/2024/03/translation-lotus-love-yellow-magic.html

(In addition to stylistic fixes, I made a major error in the version originally in this thread -- misread one kanji, ruining a beautiful line...! Sorry Harry.)

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 19:16 (one week ago) link

Sports Men isn't the kind of song you'd think would move a man to tears, and yet, here we are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QusyWLaSQf4

2008, huh. Must be one of the all-time "damn shame"s of modern music that the HASYMO-incarnation YMO didn't record a new album.

Frogbs, you ever heard Hen Ogledd? Their album Free Humans is a huge favorite of mine. When I first heard HASYMO's Rescue, I thought, "Whoa! Sounds like the wellspring of Free Humans!" And then when I first heard Underworld's Space, I thought, "Clearly someone in Hen Ogledd loves Underworld." So it might do something for you.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:51 (four days ago) link

I still feel happy that I caught that concert, I was a little perplexed at the setlist (and to some extent the inclusion of Christian Fennesz in the line up) at the time, but it makes perfect sense now.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 16 May 2024 12:06 (four days ago) link

haven't heard of them but I'm listening now and it's cute. kind of reminds me of the Ann Steel album actually. pretty long album but it's entertaining me so far :)

I've wondered for a while what a HASYMO album would sound like - the singles were okay but felt kind of stopgap. Tokyo Town Pages is nice but it doesn't hit me the way the stuff on Loophole does. idk, maybe their styles were too far off. Sakamoto in particular was so far away from any kind of pop music at that point. that London concert ruled though. amazing how for a YMO 'reunion' they only played like 3 YMO songs. probably the right decision though.

frogbs, Thursday, 16 May 2024 14:00 (four days ago) link

The first song on the Ann Steel album is killer!

I've got some exploring to do where YMO live is concerned. I feel like I know the studio catalogue inside and out at this point. But I went to look up the setlist of the London 2008 show and found out it has a DOUBLE ALBUM PROFESSIONAL RELEASE, what?! With Fennesz in the band indeed?! I did research into all the live releases back when I was getting started (with frogbs's help over on RYM) but the details didn't mean as much to me then as they of course do now... especially now that I've seen and cried through the back half of that Sports Men... and that was only song TWO of the night.

Also, Philharmony has rocketed up into my favorite albums of all time. It sounded a little thin and scattered for a while, like Hosono had let his usual "Master Overseer Producer" side slide so that he could indulge more freely in the sheer joy of tinkering around with a new synth/computer/toy. But listening to it obsessively this past week has revealed plenty of ingenuity, beauty, and emotion. Amazingly structured too, it turns out.

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 17 May 2024 04:00 (three days ago) link

I love that I still have Technodon and the Sketch Show records waiting for me (and countless solo albums, productions, etc). I've been listening to almost nothing but Hosono/YMO since September 2023 and there's still so much just to hear for the first time, let alone reconsider/re-evaluate.

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 17 May 2024 04:03 (three days ago) link

There's another DVD/CD release from Lyon that I'm guessing came out around the same time as the London Meltdown gig, not sure if the set lists differ much, or the lineup even.

Three years later they were doing a more straight ahead (for them) YMO set some of which is on YT and you can probably still buy somewhere - https://www.discogs.com/release/8467134-Yellow-Magic-Orchestra-Live-In-San-Francisco-2011

Maresn3st, Friday, 17 May 2024 08:48 (three days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erp2P_zNG1A

Maresn3st, Friday, 17 May 2024 08:48 (three days ago) link

Yet another for the "great live versions of Gradated Gray" folder. Hosono/Takahashi harmonies are the best. Incredible YT drumming.

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 17 May 2024 15:19 (three days ago) link

I'm sure you'll like the Sketch Show stuff, they play a lot of it in those live shows so you probably know some of the tracks. I was surprised how well those albums held up actually, I kinda thought that glitchtronica pop sound was something that you could always tie back to the early 00s but it still sounds amazing

Technodon is an album I really didn't care for when I first heard it, it makes way more sense in context of their 90s solo albums though. like don't compare it to the other YMO albums, compare it to say Medicine Compilation. you could tell their styles weren't really jiving at this time but it actually sounds pretty great, I mean for me the big revelation was simply hearing it on a nice system where the bass really came through

frogbs, Friday, 17 May 2024 20:05 (three days ago) link

also I kid you not the reason why I listen to Technodon so often is because the place I work loves to give out these mint chocolates called "Frango" which always makes me think "Pocketful of Frangos"

actually there are a few good advertising jingles in there. Be a Subaru Man

frogbs, Friday, 17 May 2024 20:16 (three days ago) link

y'all are making me feel like I should give HASYMO another go. I don't mind that sound and I always found the recordings to be fine but... I can't imagine ever wanting to listen to HASYMO instead of regs YMO versions of any of those songs either. maybe this is the year it clicks tho!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 20 May 2024 21:09 (one hour ago) link


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