― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link
'Naughty Boys' might be the greatest synth-pop album ever.
― Patrick South (Patrick South), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Sakamoto's '1000 Knives' is very close to the YMO sound, more jazz less kitsch though. 'B-2 Unit' and 'Esperanto' I love to tiny bits.
The new Sketch Show record 'Loophole' has disorientingly modern production; it's glitch-o-clock. But it's really growing on me. It's currently a hyper-expensive import, I wouldn't say it's $28 worth of brilliant but if you're a YMO fanatic, you definitely want this. If it ever comes out domestically, people will be talking about it.
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:56 (sixteen years ago) link
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm unclear on Xoo Multiples...is it just a compilation of the first two, or are the versions of the songs on that one somehow different?
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 02:28 (sixteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link
the us edition replaces the skits with several tracks from 'solid state survivor'. hopefully any new reissue will just feature the japanese edition.
early copies of the us edition of 'B-2 Unit' replaced the dissonant 'Participation Mystique' with the amazing 'Warhead', from the a-side of a 12" single. if the song you're thinking about has a one-beat slapback delay on all the human vocals and insane vocoder vocals for the chorus, that's 'Warhead'. they're both incredible songs.
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Those are insane and wonderful. Anyone who complains/can't deal with hip-hop skits probably just won't know WHAT to think about these.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 02:56 (sixteen years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link
And I agree with milton on 'Loophole'. Pretty great album. I was surprised. The one from '02 'Audio Sponge' is good as well (higher highs, lower lows maybe).
― Patrick South (Patrick South), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 05:52 (sixteen years ago) link
― Alex in Leeds (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 10:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Patrick, will definitely be listening to Naughty Boys more. I found the instrumental version a bit repetitious and grating when I listened last but I was also in a bad mood, so...
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link
― eleki-san (eleki-san), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link
'Solid State Survivor' seconded, no contest. Then 'XXO Multiplies'.
Comparing this band with late 70's/early 80's synth pop from other countries; everywhere else, the synth sounds seemed to inevitably lead to concept pop bands focusing on either amped up irony (M's 'Pop Musik') or dehumanized alienation (Ultravox / Numan / Human League, even Moroder etc.) YMO's a bizarrely happy, kitsch party band throwing out references to video games, sleazy lounge music, happy party fun. If it's dehumanizing, they seem very happy about it. Maybe because the same technology in Japan signified unprecedented financial prosperity? I can't know. Seriously, if anyone can knowledgeably fill me in on how YMO was received in their home land, please post to this thread.
Obviously a big part of the group's concept was throwing up a funhouse mirror to the west's asian stereotypes (the Martin Denny cover, the Snakeman Show skits, the unbelievable 'Tighten Up' single: 'We Don't Sightsee, WE DANCE You Understand, Yahdee!'), but they don't seem... angry... they seem happy? Or is it actually intensely focused rage? Or... what? Huh? How?
For perspective, the only other group doing Martin Denny tributes in the late 70's was Throbbing Gristle (certainly coming from an entirely different place).
The last reissue wave was the early 90's, still one decade too soon. Hopefully they'll catch on this time.
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link
― Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:57 (sixteen years ago) link
I will cop to less familiarity with the later period and shouldn't generalize. Looking forward to checking out the reissues.
― (Jon L), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:24 (sixteen years ago) link
― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link
― mzui, Thursday, 13 May 2004 08:03 (sixteen years ago) link
my YMO 10 right now
1. Taiso2. Rydeen3. Firecracker4. Tighten up5. Tighten up (I can do this!)6. You've got to help yourself7. Light in darkness8. Nice Age (perverse!!!!)9. Day Tripper10. Absolute Ego Dance
B-2 Unit is indeed an excellent record. I'll have to check out 1000 Knives. I've been tetchy with Sakamoto solo releases as he's rather ...inconsistent. Haruomi Hosono's Monad Box isn't really worth it either.
I have still not ponied up for any Sketch Show releases! *forehead slap*
Ally's mom in the car when Tighten Up came on the stereo: "They sound like they're making fun of japanese people!"
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link
― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 10 September 2004 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link
― (Jon L), Saturday, 11 September 2004 06:31 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I can gmail/YSI you guys sick Yamantaka eye remixes also!
― Open your eyes; you can fly! (ex machina), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
― joseph (joseph), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 May 2006 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Solid State Survivor's so outstanding I can't believe I didn't happen upon it earlier, the perfect synthesis of their pop orientalism and mastery of electronic texture -- the "Japanese Kraftwerk" thing really plays here, with "Behind the Mask" (bizarre history notwithstanding) something of an antidote to "The Model" (there's an absolutely hideous YouTube clip of Sakamoto playing this in the 90s that makes me shivver to even think about). "Insomnia," too, with the noirish vocoder melody that appears in the last third.
I'm only digging into BGM now, but Technodelic seems to get seriously short shrift -- the sound develops by leaps and bounds here, with "Taiso" birthing Nick Rhodes perhaps even more than Richard Barbieri ever could. Transitional, but not the worse for it. Shades of the Beatles, which would show up later on with "Lotus Love."
With Service and Naughty Boys, the music becomes extremely...digital, more symphonic. Some great stuff -- "Limbo," "Wild Ambitions" (featuring Bill Nelson's eBow pretty prominently), "Kai-Koh." These records almost sound like a different band, featuring little of the wit or bounce that kind of defines early YMO songs like "Absolute Ego Dance" and "Firecracker," with much more of an opaque Ippu-Do thing going on.
Still digging in, but with such a diverse profile, it's hard to believe these guys were left with such a niche reputation.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 2 November 2006 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link
― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Thursday, 2 November 2006 06:22 (fourteen years ago) link
― Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 2 November 2006 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link
It's great! "Epilogue" should reduce many a grown man to sobbing.
― LC (Damian), Thursday, 2 November 2006 12:06 (fourteen years ago) link
with "Taiso" birthing Nick Rhodes perhaps even more than Richard Barbieri ever could
Clearly I meant "Light in Darkness" here.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 2 November 2006 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
can someone recommend some other Haruomi Hosono projects aside from YMO (solo or otherwise)?
― amateurist, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
― damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
Paraiso is really good. Tropical music with a bizarre electronic twist. Very odd and affecting, and quite catchy as well.Cochin Moon is an early electronic classic. Really neat stuff.His Nokto de la Galaskia Fervojo soundtrack is chilling, it's minimal (as is a lot of Hosono's stuff) but very cold and moving. Love it.
― frogbs, Monday, 15 November 2010 19:26 (ten years ago) link
so glad this was revived. just found a mediafire folder with all the albums and needed some guidance.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 15 November 2010 21:58 (ten years ago) link
really loving these stripped down live versions YMO have been playing this year
― missingNO, Saturday, 25 December 2010 03:16 (ten years ago) link
Love the synth trumpet!
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 26 December 2010 17:47 (ten years ago) link
Whoah, YMO doing "Thank You For Talkin' to Me Africa"!
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 26 December 2010 17:48 (ten years ago) link
Things you find out from YouTube comments threads: Haruomi Hosono's grandfather was the only surviving Japanese passenger of the Titanic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masabumi_Hosono
Hosono's story remained a source of shame for his family for decades. He never spoke of it himself, though his letter to his wife was published at least twice, after his death and in 1980 when an unsuccessful bid was mounted to find the wreck of Titanic. In the late 1990s, the Hosono family released the letter to the media in the wake of James Cameron's hugely successful 1997 film Titanic. Haruomi Hosono, Masabumi's grandson and leading member of the band Yellow Magic Orchestra, declared that he was "extremely relieved. Honour has been restored to the Hosonos." As Julian Stringer puts it, the letter "enables Haruomi to build a 'bridge' back to his father's emotional life, and so reverse years of social disgrace, through the symbolic properties encrusted in its patina."
― めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 6 January 2018 21:10 (three years ago) link
i just learned about this:
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 February 2018 22:00 (two years ago) link
Yeah, a poll of all the versions would be interesting.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:52 (two years ago) link
new kate nv album alert. haven't listened to it, but i look forward to doing so tomorrow
― Karl Malone, Monday, 25 June 2018 05:21 (two years ago) link
hah, good thread to put that in. I had no idea
― frogbs, Monday, 25 June 2018 12:59 (two years ago) link
― I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 25 June 2018 13:06 (two years ago) link
ha, yeah i think this is the only thread she's mentioned in. i have to admit i'm bummed there's (almost) no singing on her new one. most of the album plays out like a more chilled out version of the instrumental tracks on Binasu. i always liked those tracks, but her ability to channel that vibe into pop songs was what made Binasu one of the best albums of 2016 (imo)
― Karl Malone, Monday, 25 June 2018 16:28 (two years ago) link
yup, it's very good but it's no Binasu.
― stirmonster, Monday, 25 June 2018 17:41 (two years ago) link
listening now, this is kind of like her Monad album huh? not sure what to think of it yet
― frogbs, Thursday, 5 July 2018 19:14 (two years ago) link
I met with a piece of legend at Yukimasa Okumura’s studio last night...昨日は久しぶりに奥村靫正さんの事務所へ。いつも通りの軽やかな感じで「こんなの出てきたんだよ〜」って、こ、これは…(！)#YMO#BGM#TECHNODELIC pic.twitter.com/aA4lbZgRKn— 古平正義 Masayoshi Kodaira (@KodairaFLAME) April 17, 2018
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 15:05 (two years ago) link
Ugh, sorry for huge
this version of Cue performed by Metafive is maybe even better than the original with the added horns
one of my favourite songs ever
― ufo, Saturday, 28 July 2018 05:54 (two years ago) link
New compilation of YMO and some solo tracks coming out as part of the 40th Anniversary of the band, curated by Towa Tei, remastered etc:
Seems a little redundant as we all know there are a shit load of YMO comps available.
― MaresNest, Monday, 30 July 2018 20:19 (two years ago) link
Yeah not sure what the point of that is exactly. I think the idea of mixing in the solo stuff is good but who needs another comp at this point. Especially given that all three musicians are still plenty active....
That version of Cue is excellent. Even though Metafive probably isn’t gonna record another album it’s pretty cool that they’re all constantly working together still. I could put together a great comp of tracks that are like...half of that group at a time.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 01:09 (two years ago) link
a great performance of one of my favorite songs of theirs
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 31 July 2018 22:15 (two years ago) link
wow I love the feeling the piano gives it, fantastic
― ufo, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 23:16 (two years ago) link
http://www.110107.com/s/oto/page/YMO40Standard LP, 2x45rpm LP, and SACD reissues forthcoming. At least in Japan, I assume they'll be available globally, too
― willem, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:30 (two years ago) link
wow @ that "Wild Ambitions" performance, that's really special. agree that the grand piano really makes it.
don't know if I've posted this before but I really dig this cover of "Sportsman"
― frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2018 13:43 (two years ago) link
We Want Sounds really are doing some great work at the moment. They just announced reissues of Ryuichi Sakamoto's Thousand Knives and Yukihiro Takahashi's Saravah in the next couple of months. I picked up one of the Akiko Yano vinyl reissues earlier this year and they've done a nice job. Apparently a few more of her albums will be out early next year.
― kitchen person, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:05 (one year ago) link
I bought all of their Akikos on CD and am looking forward to more. I would've appreciated some English language liner notes to "translate" a bit — if not the lyrics, maybe an essay. Japanese Girl and Tadaima just include a brief paragraph that reads a bit like a promo sticker. Maybe with a name like We Want Sounds they're after something more purist and less historical than, say, Light in the Attic would do. Basically these discs don't seem too different from what you'd get buying more expensive Japanese imports.
Nonetheless, I'll be looking out for the two reissues you mention. Having listened to it on YouTube, I'd love it if they'd put out Takahashi's Neuromantic, though copies of that album are probably easier to acquire since it had a worldwide release at the time.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:21 (one year ago) link
You can scoop up Neuromantic (both cd and lp) for a normal price on discogs, it's not rare.
Didn't know about these latest reissues, looking forward to them! 'Saravah' is great.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:25 (one year ago) link
Yeah, Neuromantic is one of the few YMO related albums I often see used. I wouldn't be surprised if they work their way through his solo albums though. Saravah is such a joy. I've been listening to that one a lot in the last week. Will definitely pick up the reissue.
I actually reached out to We Want Sounds on Facebook and they're really cool. Ended up having a back and forth with them about a few titles. They'd really like to do Miharu Koshi albums, but there's licensing issues which stops them. The next Akiko Yano title they're doing is Gohan Ga Dekita Yo which will be out in February.
I also saw that Ryuichi Sakamoto's B-2 Unit is getting reissued next month. Unfortunately it's on a different label and is currently set at $50 plus.
― kitchen person, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:38 (one year ago) link
will definitely be picking up Gohan & Tadaima. maybe Iroha Ni Konpeitou as well if only for the cover, which is one of my favorites ever
along the same lines I wonder if there will ever be a formal Moonriders reissue campaign, those albums seem like they ought to appeal to YMOheads but they haven't quite broken through to the English speaking market in the same way.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:42 (one year ago) link
I've not gotten around to Moonriders yet. Their discography is intimidatingly large! Could you recommend two, three good ones?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:45 (one year ago) link
The period where they start getting into New Wave & technopop is pretty good. I started with Modern Music which has some pretty killer tracks, its a bit uneven but a good listen and I think you'll probably dig it right away. Camera Egal Stylo is their wonky Zolo disc which seems to be quite popular. The two following albums Aozora Hyakkei & Mania Maniera are also very good, I sorta consider them two parts of a double album since they came out the same year and are very similar. Admittedly I haven't listened much past that, their other 80s albums have great tracks but like YT & Akiko they started using "state of the art" drum machines and digital production techniques which makes these records feel cheap. I've heard some of the later stuff on occasion (90s and beyond) and it sounds like they changed their style up a lot. This was when Keiichi Suzuki was doing the Earthbound soundtracks so he was very much at his 'peak' then.
couple of my favorite tracks:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmSwGI4rPXIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMj4Ct3-6oc
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:53 (one year ago) link
actually my favorite Moonriders album is a double live one released in 1986 called "The Worst of the Moonriders", but good luck finding that one. it covers their whole career up to that point and most of the songs are dramatically rearranged. there's a ton of tunes that don't appear anywhere, including a very long medley which ends with a new single. like YMO they were constantly switching up their sound and if you look at some recent live videos they don't sound anything like they used to, to the point where you almost can't recognize the songs.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:57 (one year ago) link
Thank you Frogbs, much appreciated!
I found 'The Worst of the Moonriders' on slsk so that will be my first.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:58 (one year ago) link
lol good chance you got it from me
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:01 (one year ago) link
All hail slsk user shabroky :)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:03 (one year ago) link
there's a vocal bit on Track 2 at the 4:00 mark that sounds exactly like Timmy from South Park, it freaked me out when I first heard it
always was a bit frustrated that some of my favorite tracks basically had no studio version, or they're covers of songs I don't recognize. #8 "The Good Child" and #11 "Russian Reggae" in particular. now that I look at it I don't know if the version I have (which has 30 tracks) is an official one. the last few are a standalone studio single that was probably a bonus disc. I got these MP3s back in '04 I think. who knows?
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:57 (one year ago) link
also I don't wanna oversell these guys but their music always gives me Andy Partridge vibes. same reference points & same strained vocal inflection.
amusingly Partridge did do a brief voice over on their '91 album Christ, Who's Gonna Die First? which if nothing else is the best ever title for a reunion album
anyway to keep the thread on topic - I've actually never heard the Naughty Boys Instrumental album before now, I've been grinning through the whole thing. can't believe how well it works
― frogbs, Friday, 20 September 2019 15:02 (one year ago) link
The most YMO Moonriders track is Itoko Doshi from 1978—largely because it's produced by Hideki Matsutake.
― Publicradio (3×5), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:59 (one year ago) link
Those Moonriders tracks are wonderful.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 4 January 2020 16:42 (one year ago) link
New track from Akiko Yano (she deserves her own thread!) and Hiromitsu Agatsuma, from forthcoming album Asteroid and Butterfly. Cool video too.
― screator, Friday, 31 January 2020 18:54 (eleven months ago) link
might have to start such a thread
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 February 2020 03:34 (eleven months ago) link
― bamboohouses, Saturday, 1 February 2020 09:49 (eleven months ago) link
She's so great and deserving of a dedicated thread, for sure.
― Maresn3st, Saturday, 1 February 2020 14:45 (eleven months ago) link
Nice to see We Want Sounds reissuing her albums. I just picked up Gohan ga Dekita yo.
― kitchen person, Saturday, 1 February 2020 16:11 (eleven months ago) link
yeah, awesome video! the domestic bliss follow-up to bjork's video for All is Full of Love
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 1 February 2020 16:56 (eleven months ago) link
Great video and co-sign the need for a dedicated thread!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 1 February 2020 17:01 (eleven months ago) link
Here 'tis - Akiko Yano
― Maresn3st, Saturday, 1 February 2020 19:37 (eleven months ago) link
how old is this girl??? god damn
― frogbs, Saturday, 11 July 2020 22:03 (six months ago) link
"Chaos Panic" on the Naughty Boys Instrumental album is so good, the synthfiddle is such a trip
― frogbs, Saturday, 8 August 2020 03:34 (five months ago) link
this is like the happiest music I've ever heard
― frogbs, Saturday, 8 August 2020 03:35 (five months ago) link
just listened to naughty boys + the instrumental album again for the first time in a while and Wild Ambitions/Chaos Panic back to back is amazing. Its a remnant of my religious upbringing but I suffered thru many lame lectures about what is happiness vs. joy and none of those lectures explained the range of emotions in happiness/joy that exist as well as this shit.
― Will (kruezer2), Thursday, 1 October 2020 14:32 (three months ago) link
I mean, the instrumental "You've Got to Help Yourself" alone is like the giddiest thing on the planet
― frogbs, Thursday, 1 October 2020 15:59 (three months ago) link
I've also come to realize that once you listen to the instrumental version a few times you don't really want to hear the original again. you really miss those goofy synths
― frogbs, Thursday, 8 October 2020 03:42 (three months ago) link
the giddiest thing on the planet
this is how i feel about "firecracker"... it's so exuberant.
― visiting, Thursday, 8 October 2020 03:48 (three months ago) link
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― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 05:15 (one month ago) link
someone unearthed a 1978 performance of YMO, to my knowledge the earliest available live performance by them
has covers of "Come On" and "Satisfaction" (!!!) plus "Mad Pierrot" which they never did live after this
― frogbs, Monday, 11 January 2021 17:53 (two weeks ago) link