The Band.

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Had been thinking we should have a poll about which string on our guitar tends to break. For me it’s the D string.

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2023 18:53 (eight months ago) link

The Jesus of Coke.

^^Best Nick Lowe album.

Take the load off NME.

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2023 21:39 (eight months ago) link

I love the sound of scraping glass.

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2023 21:52 (eight months ago) link

Charlie Prevost

Jemima Surrender to the Rhythm

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 August 2023 23:30 (eight months ago) link

I shall be resneezed

Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 12 August 2023 02:25 (eight months ago) link

Lol

The Original Human Breadbox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 August 2023 02:56 (eight months ago) link

Virgil ‘Caine is my name

hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Saturday, 12 August 2023 03:07 (eight months ago) link

they called it rock

Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 12 August 2023 12:55 (eight months ago) link

I Love My Black Label

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 August 2023 14:07 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzHRXx-O7Ys

buzza, Sunday, 13 August 2023 09:59 (eight months ago) link

Cool. I will listen while sitting here in the waiting room at the doctor’s office.

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 August 2023 15:52 (eight months ago) link

The Wait

Only two hours???? C’mon man.

tobo73, Monday, 14 August 2023 16:02 (eight months ago) link

It won't be the only Band episode, though.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:03 (eight months ago) link

20 minutes in. So far so good.

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:20 (eight months ago) link

I am still dealing with the ramifications of realizing just last week that it's "Take a load off FANNY" and not "off ANNIE." All these years I thought it was about one person but it's about somebody totally different.

what?!

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 August 2023 17:47 (eight months ago) link

it's in the grand tradition of the answer record:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc1ZTXCBeOs

mark s, Monday, 14 August 2023 17:50 (eight months ago) link

Work with me, Fanny.

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 August 2023 21:14 (eight months ago) link

There’s also a certain cartoon I wasn’t going to mention but…

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 August 2023 21:14 (eight months ago) link

"Well there was a stack of Playboys in the basement at Big Pink, and I was just paging through them one day ..."

^from the Robbie Robertson Achives at the University of Toronto library, as researched and reported by Andrew Hickey. For Patreon subscribers only.

No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 August 2023 21:21 (eight months ago) link

OnlyFannys

Apparently he knew he was dying and spent his last days just living in acceptance. Final photo in this post where he’s sitting at the table was taken the Sunday before he passed.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 06:29 (eight months ago) link

Wow, apparently they just got married a few months ago too.

Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 06:39 (eight months ago) link

Okay, it’s finally starting to seep in, finally starting to get to me.

Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 06:45 (eight months ago) link

I was looking at those photographs thinking, "Wow, his wife has certainly aged well", not realizing it's not the same woman he was married to in the Band documentary. Robbie himself aged very well mind you!

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 07:04 (eight months ago) link

His first wife, Dominique, became a psychotherapist, I believe. She only ever said nice things about him after their divorce and it didn’t just seem like it was “for the sake of the kids.”

Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:30 (eight months ago) link

The internet is full of things describing her as a “Canadian journalist.” She may be Canadian now, but she grew up in France.

Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:39 (eight months ago) link

Truth be told I can’t for the life of me remember where I would have read about her at all apart from Testimony.

Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:52 (eight months ago) link

Maybe she is in Once Were Brothers?

Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 11:52 (eight months ago) link

No, I misread. They met in Paris, but she is in fact French Canadian.

Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 12:09 (eight months ago) link

Maybe she is in Once Were Brothers?

That's what I said, she was in the Band documentary and there was no indication they weren't still a couple, hence my confusion.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 12:16 (eight months ago) link

There’s very little info out there about her and their family. Wikipedia doesn’t give a date for their divorce. There seem to be pictures of him with other lady friends seemingly identified as her when it is clearly not her.

Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 12:23 (eight months ago) link

Back to the main topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdwzko9DZ0s

Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 12:49 (eight months ago) link

His first wife, Dominique, became a psychotherapist, I believe. She only ever said nice things about him after their divorce and it didn’t just seem like it was “for the sake of the kids.”

The press release said she was also present when he passed, but Robertson really was close to his entire family. His son Sebastien has posted a lot about him over the years, just "dad" stuff like his memories of Robertson being the stay-at-home dad for some stretch or photos of the two of them together or of him with his grandkids.

Re: Dominique, she apparently specializes in substance abuse. She also has mentioned in the past that part of what destroyed the Band was that many of them had issues that would've been impossible to diagnose at the time because there just wasn't that understanding or even the terminology for those issues back then. I'm not an expert, but I imagine it was beyond my understanding of drug and alcohol abuse and also dealt with her own familiarity with the members in their personal lives.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 19:48 (eight months ago) link

Truth be told I can’t for the life of me remember where I would have read about her at all apart from Testimony.

Greil Marcus talked to her for Mystery Train, she had some jaundiced views about life in Woodstock that probably hint at the personal decline of some of the Band members.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 17 August 2023 03:11 (eight months ago) link

Rod Stewart pays tribute to Robertson. I haven't heard anything new from his voice in years, so it took some getting used to (for instance, in order to sing "Broken Arrow" now, he had to drop the key by a great amount), but I think the arrangement's better than what was used on Stewart's record.

I revisited the Band's first three albums all in a row - I've always liked Stage Fright despite its reputation as a "letdown" but honestly, it sounds even better than I remembered, even after hearing the first two. I also think Todd Rundgren's original mix made an enormous difference, so much that I put on the mix(es) that was ultimately used on the LP and I could hear what went wrong.

The history behind the mixing is ridiculously convoluted (and there's been some significant misinformation put out there). Rundgren engineered the recording sessions, and Robertson (who liked what he did) thought it made sense for him to mix the album. At minimum Levon wanted to get someone else like Glyn Johns, so they hired him as well, explaining they would both mix the album and may the best mix(es) win. To make that work, Rundgren had to fly to London with the tapes, and he and Johns mixed the album there, with Johns at one studio and Rundgren at another. Rundgren then flew back to NYC with all the tapes - the Band heard the results and there wasn't enough agreement to use either set of mixes (at least in their entirety). So Rundgren had to make ANOTHER set of mixes in New York City, a process he recalls being excruciating as all five members had to approve of every mix. Most of the NYC mixes ended up on the released album, but three songs used Johns's mixes. Then somewhere down the line, for reasons unknown, the first CD release used all of Rundgren's London mixes, and the same mixes were used on a gold CD reissue before the 2000 CD reissue reverted back to the LP mixes.

A lot of times, the LP mix feels like they put everything up in the mix because everyone wanted to be heard rather than buried. I want to say it's like editing a movie where every actor has a say and they all demand that all of their lines stay in the film, because that's what it feels like. I guess you could say it's the equivalent of a live sound, but the mixes don't focus well on any important elements. Some of Richard's most beautiful moments in "Sleeping" are spoiled because the instruments now obscure his singing more, so even if you can still catch the words, the nuances are much harder to hear. Something jarring and distracting like the harpsichord in "Daniel and the Sacred Harp" is also better off mixed out like they are in Rundgren's London mix. And there are several instances where the vocals are bathed in this slick echo that's more appropriate for a standard pop record of the time whereas Rundgren's London mix's vocals are nearly always bone dry. (One exception is the surreal echo effect on Manuel in "Daniel," which makes sense in the context of the lyrics - it's recalling words once spoken. The LP mix also uses an echo on Manuel's vocal, but again it's a lush echo that sounds cheesier and less fitting.) The only other instance of echo I can recall from Rundgren's London mix is on the title track - it's only on certain words in Danko's vocal, as if he backs his head away from the mic when shouting a note (i.e. it could be the acoustics of the location). For some reason, the LP mix pans these moments of echo sharply to the right, and it just sounds weird. In Rundgren's London mix, I love how Danko and Helm are so apart on "The Rumor" and then Manuel's beautiful vocal seems to bring everything together, in spirit and in sound, but on the LP mix, they just douse everyone in that same bath of echo and the effect is syrupy. (FWIW, I have the audiophile gold CD, and the vacuum tube mastering used on that CD probably helps too. Surprisingly that CD wasn't an expensive find.)

birdistheword, Thursday, 17 August 2023 05:04 (eight months ago) link

Good stuff, thanks. What about the 2020 remix by Bob Clearmountain and Robbie?

Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 August 2023 11:04 (eight months ago) link

Great post, birdistheword. I’ve weirdly only heard the 2020 remix, which I generally like. The one or two songs I’ve heard in the original mix (“Stage Fright” and “The Shape I’m In”) always sounded claustrophobic and cluttered to me. The Clearmountain mix opens things up.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 August 2023 11:36 (eight months ago) link

yeah I've only heard the 2020 as well and love it. I recall RR changed the running order to more accurately reflect his vision of the album

lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 17 August 2023 12:32 (eight months ago) link

Thanks James, and apologies forgot to circle back! They packaged a great show with the 2020 remix so at minimum the 2CD version is worth it for that. There's a lot of compression on that CD, which may or may not be baked into the new mix, and it has a lot of characteristics typically found in Clearmountain's mixes so it was kind of jarring to hear: it really sounds like something mixed in 2020 than, say, 1970. He applies quite a bit of reverb, like on "The Rumor" and I think on Danko's entire vocal for the title track - he's kind of known for his wide array of "echoes" and I think he even has a plugin based on them. That part I'm not so sure about as it's not to my preference but it was Robertson's call whether or not to have that. Compression aside, he does a great job of balancing the instruments so everything does come together nicely. He doesn't always use the same approach for every song - he clearly knows what to focus on. (On "Sleeping," Manuel's vocal sounds very present while everything else is brought down, much moreso than past mixes.) Tough call on Robertson's new sequence because "Sleeping" does make a great closer, better than "The Rumor"...on the other hand, I don't think "The Rumor" really works as well anywhere else. I don't think anything was wrong withe original sequence so that's my preference, but FWIW Greil Marcus much prefers the new sequence.

I'll also say that Clearmountain did a far better job mixing the live Academy album (i.e. Rock of Ages) than what was originally released, and he also did better than the remixes Andrew Sandoval made for A Musical History. However, I also prefer the "soundboard mix" Sebastian Robertson made of the New Year's show - it feels more apiece with the first two albums. I can also see it getting rejected for being too natural-sounding - Clearmountain's mix sounds really polished, what you'd expect from a major label live release.

birdistheword, Friday, 18 August 2023 06:06 (eight months ago) link

*I don't think anything was wrong with the track sequence that everyone lived with until 2020 so that's my preference, but FWIW Greil Marcus much prefers the new sequence.

birdistheword, Friday, 18 August 2023 06:07 (eight months ago) link

I also prefer the "soundboard mix" Sebastian Robertson made of the New Year's show - it feels more apiece with the first two albums.

Ooh, where can I hear this?

serving aunt (stevie), Friday, 18 August 2023 10:16 (eight months ago) link


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