The Telescopes: Classic or Dud?

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Well, it was kind of inevitable I was gonna do it at some point, wasn't it?

CLASSIC all the way. From the darkly bruising perfection of 'The Perfect Needle' through the clouded dreamscapes of the second album and up to today, abso-fuckin-lutely Classic.

So, I'll leave it up to you to work out exactly _how_ classic they are, whilst I go OUT.

emil.y, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

My only fan letter EVAH! went to The Telescopes. 'The Perfect Needle', '7th# Disaster' and the debut album were all great, then they turned into a shitty indie-dance band and I completely lost interest. They were great live, cool as fuck too. It pained me to see them looking like The Soupdragons a year or two later. But I can't actually recall hearing any of the later stuff so maybe my rejection was premature.

Johnathan, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

i SAWN them supporting prml scrm (who they blew off stage) and w/the sunflowers supporting them (who blew them off stage) They were great until, as mentioned above, they went "baggy" (baggy = sux0r) The singer could get a bit irritating (& his lyricks = /<-sux0r) but I especially liked the Pink Fairies lookalike bassist, & THEE grate g! mm!ck ov having thee 2 guitarists facing their huge marshall stax0rs (IE away from the audience) Thee lead guitarist turned around for his cacophonous solos IIRC....Anyway, Thee tescelopes = classic on this basis


Norman Fay, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Of course they're CLASSIC. I saw them in the Camden Falcon, it was one of the best gigs I've ever been at. total raw power.

Did they release anything on Creation other than the Flying e.p.?

The Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Several EPs and at least one album -- I actually have them all thanks to a friend, but I keep forgetting to actually listen to the damn things. Somewhere scattered on various mp3 collections I've got all the original and well out of print singles when they sounded like they were gargling feedback and spewing noise.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Of course they were classic, in fact I can't think of a dud track by them at all. The early snarly feedbacky stuff was cool, even though it sounded like it had been recorded down a toilet, then they seemed to discover 'good' drugs around the end of '89, the "To kill a slow girl walking" and "Precious little" EPs show them stretching out in odd directions, slowing down, using dynamics more, and I doubt if anyone else bar AR Kane could beat the wonderous whalesong of "Pure sweetest ocean" (possibly my fave 'Scopes track, along with "Please tell mother"). Then they went to Creation, "Everso" was a bit of a Soup Dragons wash out but was made worthwhile for the Beach Boys / Manson cover on the b-side, then "Celeste" was a swirling mix of Stone Roses basslines, Spacemen 3 psychedelia and all that, then the "Flying" EP was pure perfection, then the second eponymous LP was superb lay-back-in-the-sun music. Then nothing at all for a long long time. So classic all the way, from beginning to end.

Ned, dig 'em all out, they're great.

Rob M, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC!! [totally]. they never EVER settled down with a predictable formula like most bands. they took REAL risks & still came up with record after record of mind exploding music. a band like that is a rare treasure in these bland & cynically market orientated times. deep hole ends is possibly THE most beatifull record of all time!!! AND THEY"RE BACKK.. check this out -

tv eye, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The TELESCOPES are incredble!!!! The self-titled lp on CREATION is the best lp they made.. It's so wonderful.. it's timeless... I never got sick of it..

They are coming back and making a NEW telescopes LP.. in the meantime, check out Lawrie's new band UNISEX on Double Agent Records.. They have an lp called STRATOSFEAR.. it's also brilliant.. lots of therimin.. it's tripped out spacerock. Not as good as the TELESCOPES lp but up there.. Todd

Todd E. Jones, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

WHat can I say that hasn't been said , they are my favorite band .From the first time I heard them I have been after all their stuff and it is all classic. The last LP is my all one time favorite with the best music I have heard. As for unisex "statosphere" get it I was blown away and now the Scopes are coming back with a new lp my life is now complete. It's also nice to see people who haven't forgotten the Scopes, I can't understand why they weren't bigger (maybe it's good they weren't) I feel Creation made some big mistakes letting the likes of the scopes,adorable and MBV go. Just for your info The scopes appear on the new Creation double comp.

Michael Barrett, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

glad to see someone else likes Adorable, there is a neglected Adorable thread here somewhere, gathering dust...

gareth, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
I saw them at the Bull and Gate playing support to the Rosehips 1988 There were about ten people in the audience. I have photos if anyones interested.They were good then trying to be the velvets and the mary chain. I saw them a few time s after that but think they lost it after they changed direction and the guitarist actualy faced the audience!

PAUL REED, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Classic. Their last album on Creation is just incredible. The early stuff was pretty derivative and subpar. They exploded after arriving at Creation...probably one of the more incredible leaps in ability I have ever heard. I hope their new album is better than the Unisex I have heard.

Bill, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Classic. "You Set My Soul" on a Select compilation in, oh 1991ish completely stole my heart, and the album gave it back to me.

nick, Saturday, 29 December 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC, no question about it. in my universe they are superstars. check out this brand new scopes review here -

fin lodger, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC! been a fan for about 10 years,and have never lost interest.anything they have released has been perfect,basically ,unlike so many bands today.frustrating that they get overlooked in some of creations history though.seen them perform some of the new tracks recently,so "third wave" is gonna be a timeless classic,as the last album was,and still is.shamefully underrated band,but not for long...

james wiseman, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
My, my, my what a surprise. I certinly love the Telescopes. Spaceships on the s/t lp is my fave. I've never, ever met a single other person that knew of them so it is brilliant to see a whole mess of them at once.

robb monn, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Ooh, this thread has been resurrected, cool. In case any of the 'Scopes fans are still around, I have another question- I personally adore both the albums (and reckon on the new one being just as good), but they do have very different sounds. Do you people like both, or do you only listen to one of them? And if just the one, which one?

emil.y, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Well Emily, I listen to both, but the second more frequently. I have to be in the right mood for "Taste" and the dreadful production does it no favours in that it's a bit of a struggle to listen to, but if I want loud distorted suicidal frenzy then that's where I head, but more often than not I want happy freaky gentle weird which is where the second LP comes in. Let's face it, it's got "Please tell mother" on it - what can compete with it? And for heaven's sake, what about the late '91 Peel session? Will that ever get issued? Sigh...

Rob M, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

They're just a crap rip-off of Black Rebel Motorcycle Club. Same riffs and everything!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

yes, it's well documented that the telescopes got into lots of trouble way back in the late 80's /early 90's.. for using their clockwork time machines to steal future riffs from the far inferior black webel water sports club. honestly marcello, shame on you for mentioning such insignificantly wafer thin mediocrity like that in the presence of such grace. you've let yourself down lad. we know you now for your crap taste. personally i'm a b sides fan. i love everything they did, but all those b sides!! surely there's an albums worth there? & as for the peel sessions, it's simply insane that they haven't been released. i'm writing to peel. if anyone else wants to join me, his address is up the

B. Jam, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Classic? The telescopes are classic as one can get. I can't believe there are this many telescopes fans in the world, it is pretty awesome to see all of these people supporting such good music. I first heard them from a friend who said, "You've gotta check out this acid sounding band!" Acid sounding? Anyway, I wasn't that into them until I bought the self-titled second LP from Vinyl Fetish in Hollywood CA. I couldn't believe how good it was. I listened to it so much that the cardboard packaging is falling apart. They are and have been one of my favorite bands ever. Now they have a new album coming out, incredible. I just hope there are a few songs that sound as good as "spacehips" or "splashdown" Man, this is crazy...

Joe R., Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Saw 'em in Nottingham last night & got a preview of the new album - expect something ASTONISHING and nothing like you ever heard - was scared to move for a couple of minutes after, very disorientating and very Telescopian. Anyone who listens to all their stuff and hears the common thread (Feel) 'll know what i mean. Intensity and Spaceness. Yeah, expect the unexpected alright.

Adore avin em back...

Elsa Marie, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
Jeez, does life get any better. Hi everyone, another life long Telescopes fan here who's 30 and acting like a little kid about the new album. Only just found out about this page too.

Classic, classic, classic. Heard them first on Two Pint Takehome, a compilation cassette where they covered Tomorrow Never Knows. Corresponded with Jo for a while and was lucky enough when I was about 16/17 when I first heard of them, to get the split flexi with Loop and all the rare singles (that weren't too rare then but still cost me £27 for a 7" single)

I'm a very happy man and glad to see that such a brilliant band hasn't been forgotten. Love both previous albums and listen to them regularly but Taste is definitely a darker album.


Simonn Klee, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Just got the third wave delivered this morning, AMAZING! It's their best album yet, check out the elvis track "a place to hide" thats some cool shit indeed! Captain Nemo Rocks!

Captain Nemo, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
they are playing at the strange fruit fest in london... nov 15th...



m2, Friday, 8 November 2002 22:47 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I tend not to be very nostalgic, so my Telescopes records have sat idly for years, (keeping company with my Loop and Swervedriver LPs) But by way of snazzy Double Agent Records I picked up the brand new "Third Wave" and it's terrific. I could happily listen to a loop of "Telsa Death Ray" for hours.
Space rock at it's finest.

sherri, Saturday, 9 November 2002 15:13 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

White Stripes copyists.

some cheeky wag (david h), Saturday, 9 November 2002 15:19 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

some cheeky wag is a Marcello Carlin copyist!
3D jesus ashtray for president!!!

mother superior, Sunday, 10 November 2002 04:13 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

They were pretty good - don't know if I'd call them truly classic.

Surely the only decent band to come out of Burton-on-Trent though?

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 11 November 2002 12:31 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
lawie is great man if the records he made with his band came out now they be all over mtv and in the charts music biz is a shity biz these days telescopes ruled 1988 to 1992
but the new albums out of this world on four of the tracks buy it all of you or what the shit are you reading this for
rollon 2003
telescopes ,cranes ,violet indiana, the cure all touring together
wish hey dream on or maybe not

mr bigger, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 21:59 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The Telescopes reside on the top of the Great Pyramid of Classicness. This just in - Bomp is reissuing all the out-of-print stuff and there's apparently a Telescopes US tour in theh works with Brian Jonestown Massacre.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 17 April 2003 00:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...
Er... I think I'm a bit late to join in this one, but anyway, I reckon the Telescopes album on Creation is one of the best albums
ever by anyone. Can't believe they've reformed and had a new album out and I've only just found out about it.

jamie fake, Friday, 6 February 2004 20:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

That reissue compilation the current Mr. Telecom mentioned is indeed very spiff so if anyone needs a starting point...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 20:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I must be missing something - I thought they were rubbish.

Keith Watson (kmw), Friday, 6 February 2004 21:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

No Keith, your memory is failing you. :P

This reissue business is exciting. Record label in Reissues Something Desperately Deserving Of Being In Print shockah!

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 6 February 2004 21:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

it's a shame it doesn't have the first Cheree 7" on it

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

some lucky fakejazz bastard just got my copy of Taste off ebay. I don't think Taste is very good, hence my auctioning it. But the Creation record is sublime and the new album is wonderful as well. Their live show last November was EXCELLENT; Steven said they got booed at their first comeback show earlier last year since everyone was expecting shoegaze and instead got improvised electronic weird shit.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...
I just bought my ticket for Audioscope in Oxford this Saturday on the strength of seeing The Telescopes again. They used to be an amazing live band if they don't deliver a hefty dose of Taste I will be mucho disappointed.

holojames (holojames), Monday, 27 September 2004 10:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They used to be an amazing live band if they don't deliver a hefty dose of Taste I will be mucho disappointed.

You may be disappointed then. The last show I heard of theirs (back in 2002) was Steve and Jo only doing a 40 minute slow grinding instrumental drone that sounded like tectonic plates moving - then it concluded with a dirgelike slowcore "The Perfect Needle"

I liked it, but your mileage may vary.

Gator Magoon (Chris Barrus), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I haven't seen them since they supported Damo Suzuki a couple of years ago, but Taste it was not.

Personally, I seem to have developed in musical, um, taste in a similar direction to them, from frenetic teenage angst to dreamy spaced-outness (although perhaps not so much of that, although I did like Slowdive and Ride a bit, the 'Scopes were always my main focus there) to the more electronic side of things (tho' I think I'm further down that line than they are). That similarity in progression is gratifying, but I don't think that they're quite as exciting as when I first heard Taste - there's not the same urgency there. If that's what you're looking for then it's not what you'll get.

Still, fuckin-A is what I say, you should definitely check it out, just try to remove preconceptions.

emil.y (emil.y), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

well Damo Suzuki is headlining audioscope, so it looks like it's the droney noises again. I'm looking forward to seeing them, because I've heard loads of people rave on about them, but I still haven't managed to listen to any of their music yet. Saturday's going to be great.

jellybean (jellybean), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Well I'm a big fan of droney noises too!

I like their later stuff but the raw goodness of Taste makes it my favourite Telescopes LP.

I'll happily take what's given but The Perfect Needle would be a great bonus.

holojames (holojames), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

is there a new album? I heard there was.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

peel's been playing old tracks from a 'new album' so i'm guessing there's another comp out.

parasol lists "Telescopes - Altered Perception (Space Age)" for july 6th... i think that's the one peel mentioned. can't find a track list for it though.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 08:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...
just interviewed steven - nice guy!

doomie x, Thursday, 18 November 2004 10:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

so the self titled one on creation = their 2nd album right? that's a great record! dig it, i only bought it 'cause it was in the $1 bin & i was buying stuff i thought i could flick on for dope money,i don't like (didnt think i liked) anything on creation, any "shoegazers" except spacemen 3 if theyre "shoegazers" i dunno, any indie rock, any british indie rock, so on/so forth but fortunately i actually bothered to listen to what a (said it already, say it again)great record! their other stuff that good? i've only heard the 12" with the song the beach boys stole off charlie manson (ULTRA SHAME ON YOU if you got the U2 reference there), thats merely ok. but that album, MAN WHAT A GREAT RECORD.

doorag logged in as gg (gegoss), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

shoegazy need more skullflower/less Lush
altho i have now found a lush track i like (coincidentally : Dennis Wilson cover verssion!)

doo as gg (gegoss), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

so the self titled one on creation = their 2nd album right?

Yup (2nd studio at least, there was a semi-legit live album called Trade Mark of Quality that came out after the first). Had a ton of singles and EPs as well around that time.

is their other stuff that good?

Depends on what you're after -- earlier is some pretty goddamned violent music, up through the Taste album, while the s/t is them finding a balance between that and the pretty side of things. You'd want to find all the Creation era singles for the B-sides, at least.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I just found out that they are playing at The Spitz tonight:

Sat 20 Nov
The Spitz and Penny Black Music present... Vibracathedral Orchestra + The Telescopes + Sunshine Valley Dance Band + Heist + Leo Avanti (Kosmische Club) and Olga Pennyblack > 1am
Another excellent night from Penny Black. This time will feature The Telescopes who'll perform their cross between early John Cale era Velvets and a noisy Jesus and Mary Chain. Also appearing are Vibracathedral Orchestra who combine compulsive rhythms and debased ragged raga. Heist's music of sixties spy film scores and Ex- Ultrasound and Spacemen 3. Sunshine Valley Dance Band also perform.

I'm quite tempted to go, but I'm skint and actually still feeling quite rough.

The Grain of Sand in Lambeth That Satan Cannot Find (kate), Saturday, 20 November 2004 12:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I just got the self-titled album last week and I was struck by how much one or two tracks reminded me of The Notorious Byrd Brothers. Does that mean The Notorious Byrd Brothers is the first shoegazer album?

Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Are The Telescopes Shoegaze?

sacred pijin, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Kind of.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

My very first post on ILM has to do with Telescopes? Anyways a year later and just a bit brighter, hopefully.

Still love the Telescopes but only the stuff they put out on Creation Records, with those four or five EP’s being their best stuff. I played Unisex’s Stratosfear about three months ago and really enjoyed it. This year the Telescopes put out an album called #4 but still doesn’t do much for me, though very spacey.

BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i really don't like the latest stuff at all.

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...
Telescopes Launch First-Ever U.S. Tour:

11-04 San Francisco, CA - The Hemlock Tavern *#
11-05 Davis, CA - Delta of Venus *#
11-08 Santa Cruz, CA - The Attic *#
11-09 Los Angeles, CA - Silverlake Lounge *#
11-10 Las Vegas, NV - The Bunkhouse *#
11-11 Long Beach, CA - The Prospector *#

* with Füxa
# with LSD and the Search for God

I just may have to go to this next Thursday in Los Angeles.

BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 4 November 2006 02:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I just may have to go to this next Thursday in Los Angeles.

I'm absolutely, positively going to be there for the Thursday show. Probably for the Long Beach show too.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 5 November 2006 04:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink


We're talking Dead C levels of splattering feedback and noise.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 10 November 2006 17:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Goddammit, I COMPLETELY missed this thread. And this tour! And I'm already booked for something else tomorrow night! GARG.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 November 2006 17:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

That old live lp was fantastic--and truly savage stuff.

Andrew Corbin (bastowe), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I was disappointed with their "rave come-down" phase...seemed like they were trying too hard to capture the moment...titles like "The Presence Of Your Grace" (yuk!) give the game away...that said, I loved the banjoes on "Flying"...did the band High On Fire take their name from that LP, by the by?

hank (hank s), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Picked up the "Hungry Audio Tapes" and a homebrew tour CD-R from Stephen at the show. Haven't dug into them all the way just yet, but the gloppy-buzz version of "The Perfect Needle" on HAT might be my favorite.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

i like these guys ...

Eisbaer, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Some news:

Textile Rds is proud to announce the release of the new Telescopes album called Infinite Suns. This release is a vinyl only release and is strictly limited. The release date is June 24th. You can pre order this LP in our shop for a cool price untill june 10th. All orders will be dispatched early june...

Infinite Suns begins a new era of change in the Telescopes music field.

This LP is very much number one, the introduction to a serie of release (2 new albums and one live recording)

This new LP is a selection of analogue tape recordings taken between 2006 and 2007, using a multi directional mic to capture environmental response. Recording levels were set close to saturation, allowing for interaction with the tape machine itself.

Side one closes with a piece centered around a lock-groove from the run-out of The Telescopes first album and is lock-grooved again to play endlessly.

The recording took place in a room used by a deep trance medium to hold investigative seances. The album ends with The Telescopes channelling out on each others instruments.

The sound of earthquakes dreaming, where black holes reveal infinite suns.

Side 1--Static Charge/Thought Loops/Northumberland
side 2--Tidal Bandwidth/Chrome Gulls

For pre- orders visit-

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 May 2008 15:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm curious but I'll be honest, the 5th sentence above (lock-groove) is the only one that's doing it for me...

henry s, Thursday, 22 May 2008 16:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

just downloaded some new singles compilation by them. never heard their "first-wave" stuff (Shc burn, Kill a Slow Girl Walking, Precious Little, etc.). It's actually not bad. It feels like their transition from the old days to the creation days parallels a change from dirty to clean highs.

Spectrum, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

> Shc burn

took me about 5 years and talking to one m sinker to realise that shc stands for Spontaneous Human Combustion

what compilation is this? does it go back as far as Kick The Wall and 7th Sharp Disaster? (on Cheree?)

koogs, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

i assume it's and no it doesn't

❝♪♬♩❞ (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

for some reason i thought the really early stuff had been comp'd but then i remembered i'd actually gotten hold of a couple of the early 45s which is why i was familiar with them

❝♪♬♩❞ (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

I have some sort of live comp that has '7th# Disaster' on it AFAIR. But yeah, bought the 12" when it came out too.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

Was thinking of this:

Trade Mark Of Quality (1990)
UK LP/CD (Fierce, Fright 039, Fright 039CD)
Recorded Live at Harlow Square Club.
-:-- There Is No Floor
-:-- Sadness Pale
-:-- The Perfect Needle
-:-- 7th# Disaster
-:-- Threadbare
-:-- Violence
-:-- Anticipating Nowhere
-:-- Please, Before You Go
-:-- Suicide

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:24 (nine years ago) Permalink


mentions a couple of compilations released a couple of months apart, but neither go back to the beginning (not that the really old stuff is as good as the later stuff, is a bit shouty). and there's one on space age from 4 years before that.

(it also talks about the creation album as if it's 'lost'. it was on bloody creation. EVERYBODY i knew at the time had a copy (one friend ended up with three as he was a big fan and it was out the same week as his birthday). but hey...)

saw them quite a few times at the time (20 years ago...). supporting the mary chain and at reading festival in particular. leaving the stage and letting the whalesong continue for 10 more minutes.

(ah, yes, trademark, one of the fierce bootlegs...)

koogs, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

lol @ "lost", that shit was pretty heavily promoted and was licensed in multiple countries, at one stage i had two copies which were free promos..

very good album though and i'd definitely agree that it deserved to do better than it did

❝♪♬♩❞ (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 11:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

These guys are touring again in Feb

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Friday, 15 January 2010 13:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

So I always said I was going to write about the Telescopes and now I have...

Rob M Revisited, Friday, 17 May 2013 20:50 (five years ago) Permalink

A+, that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 May 2013 20:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanks Ned!

Rob M Revisited, Friday, 17 May 2013 21:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Nice, Rob. I still cringe every time I read the first post of this thread, though.

emil.y, Saturday, 18 May 2013 00:48 (five years ago) Permalink

did you go out?

glycemic index joe (electricsound), Saturday, 18 May 2013 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

The bits on Taste that sound like Halo of Flies or some AmRep band are really jarring.

get in yr plastic FEMA coffin & stop asking questions (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 5 August 2013 10:11 (five years ago) Permalink

they have a new album out soon!

sleepingsignal, Monday, 5 August 2013 12:45 (five years ago) Permalink

ok i'll give 'em another listen

OutdoorFish, Monday, 5 August 2013 14:03 (five years ago) Permalink

the three lps i have (Taste, the creation one, 3rd Wave) are all completely different.

koogs, Monday, 5 August 2013 14:36 (five years ago) Permalink

but all good. they are playing london in september and i am tempted.

koogs, Monday, 5 August 2013 14:37 (five years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

nope, still shit

OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 20:23 (five years ago) Permalink

i was ill and didn't get to the gig in islington. still kinda curious but wasn't that keen on the new stuff i've heard on bandcamp.

rob m's long blog post doens't mention their version of "Candy Says" which is worth a listen. (although the version on amazon sounds like a chipmunk singing)

koogs, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 21:05 (five years ago) Permalink

I didn't even know about their version of "Candy says" until I found it on Spotify the other day, and that sounds like the Chipmunks. I'm not sure if I mentioned they did a stunning version of "Morning Dew" on an indie conp in 1990 which is worth seeking out too.

Rob M Revisited, Sunday, 13 October 2013 19:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Sorry couldn't listen to that version of "Candy Says," nor the Beth Gibbons version. This one is much better:

Gallucci Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 October 2013 20:06 (five years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

caught stephen last night in SF; when he plays the US he mostly tours with lsd and the search of god backing him up. I'm impressed that they spend one day practicing and have the set down although to be fair a lot of it is feedback at maximum volume and stephen lays on the floor screaming into a mic. still worth checking out though. great version of the perfect needle.

akm, Saturday, 2 April 2016 23:47 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

free gig at the shacklewell arms last night.

played in front of the stage, 3 guitars and a wasp synth, all turned up loud, and all seemingly doing their own droney thing (the combined volume meaning that no-one could influence the overall sound that much). played for about 60 minutes and then left the instruments 'playing' as they went to the bar. that continued for at least another 20 minutes... (the sound guy seemed into it and happy to just leave it going)

koogs, Friday, 25 August 2017 09:53 (one year ago) Permalink

(no songs as such, just one long noise)

koogs, Friday, 25 August 2017 09:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Heroes still.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 August 2017 13:28 (one year ago) Permalink

hmm, sounds like a very interesting one-off night. i know i would like to see them do some of their old songs.

i will vote their self titled Creation album very high on my Shoegazer albums poll that i will be opening in about two months or October 2017. exciting about running it.

Bee OK, Saturday, 26 August 2017 02:00 (one year ago) Permalink

oh wow

[w]More classic than dude as I loved their debut on Creation Records along with those singles. I bought Taste around the same time but never got into like the debut on Creation. Years later I bought Unisex but never got into like Bravecaptain (because of Boo Radleys), or Mojave 3( because of Slowdive). Was really excited when I heard Third Wave was going to come out in 2002. I bought it, played a few times and have never revisited.
I was on Bravecaptain web site and came across this by Joe Foster via

What is the next reissue of Creation for Revola?

The next reissue is up for it are The Telescopes. They have one album that they said was never released. I don't know how a released album can never be released but it is a very long and complicated story with a lot of facts and I had to take a nap afterwards. The facts are that it is an excellent album, and should be out there....


― Boo Radleys (BeeOK), Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:37 AM (twelve years ago)[/q]

Bee OK, Saturday, 26 August 2017 02:01 (one year ago) Permalink

Bee OK, Saturday, 26 August 2017 02:07 (one year ago) Permalink

the anomaly that is Bee OK

Bee OK, Saturday, 26 August 2017 02:11 (one year ago) Permalink

listening to taste tonight. it would be such a classic if it wasn't produced so horribly. still love it though.

dynamicinterface, Friday, 1 September 2017 23:08 (one year ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

Quoting AKM two years back:

caught stephen last night in SF; when he plays the US he mostly tours with lsd and the search of god backing him up. I'm impressed that they spend one day practicing and have the set down although to be fair a lot of it is feedback at maximum volume and stephen lays on the floor screaming into a mic. still worth checking out though.

Had never seen them or LSD before and...that's pretty much what happened last night! In a good way but it was almost an endurance test. Lineup this time around was most of LSD, Stephen and two other veteran guitarist looking types, hell of a racket on stage, and yes some screaming. Didn't immediately recognize any songs in the murk but it was all about the experience.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 13:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Documentary about the making of Taste on the way this June for the 30th anniversary.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 13 January 2019 22:48 (four days ago) Permalink

Oh nice!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2019 01:04 (three days ago) Permalink

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