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Heard the new record? Like it? Hate it? What'cha think? Huh?

Tom, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Uh, is the new Pulp album out? I'm assuming this is what you're referring to... what's it called? And yeah, heard it? Like it? It's produced by the notoriously focused and pop-savvy Scott Walker, right?

Sean, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not out yet, but it's floating round the web - it's out in a couple of weeks, Walker produced, and it's called "Pulp".

Tom, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Mr Ewing you ain't been reading my weblog!

The album is now called We Love Life and is out Oct 22nd. And that Trees track as I mentioned on my weblog is a fine track indeed, it reminds me of The Go Betweens on top form, also there are hints of orchestration lushness that share some similarity with Echo & the Bunnymen on Ocean Rain.

DJ Martian, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Have had Sunrise since beginning of September - the ltd dj thingy - and it's mighty fine, maybe my single of the year, and I'm not sick of it yet so that also adds to its goodness value. It's really, really special (I know that's not saying much but I don't say it that much...) Have heard Trees as well and a lot of the other stuff live when they played Homelands and...it's all good really, I'm incredibly excited by all this.
Plus, I believe Trees could be used to enliven dull biology: 'Those useless trees, produce the air that I am breathing' - Genius!
Is the single coming out the same date as the Michael Jackson one, coincidence if it is or is it just on purpose (noticing the original album release date clashed as well, but got moved forward a week).

Bill, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Also: Nifty bit of pastoralism especially when they could possibly be named after chopped up trees ha ha ha. sorry.
Tom: Are all your threads going to be one word titles from now on?

Bill, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sure, don't see why not.

Tom, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

album is fantastic. sonically, it's their loveliest record to date. not so much a 'back to basics' record as a 'back to nature' one; jarvis et. al. finally seem to have finally come to grips with their fame and its mercurial nature and jarvis has seemingly gotten over the mid-youth crisis of tih. if tih was the sound of their nights, we love life is their recording of the daytime.

fred solinger, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Is the single coming out the same date as the Michael Jackson one, coincidence if it is or is it just on purpose

Apparently an unfortunate coincidence that Jarvis was "horrified" by; but who knows, someone somewhere could have been playing a little joke with the scheduling.

As for the album, I love it; I've only had a chance to listen to it once all the way through, and it's already become my second favorite of the year. It just might become my favorite album upon further listening.

Nicole, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I. Can't. Wait. Any. Longer. Damn Macs and their lack of quality file sharing! Is it October 22 yet? And Dismemberment Plan and Aphex Twin that day, too! Grr.

scott p., Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What Scott said.

Andy, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

hate to break it to my american cohorts, but we love life will NOT be seeing release in the u.s. not anytime soon, at the very least. head for the import racks, kiddies!

fred solinger, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The album's wonderful, great, yes, etc -- but for some reason, I'm not finding myself listening to it all that often. Maybe I don't need this record right now the way I needed the last two.

Ian, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Initial thought - just as TIH was not as dark an album as people initially latched on to, so WLL is a much darker record than people seem to be picking up on so far.

Tom, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

we love life will NOT be seeing release in the u.s. not anytime soon, at the very least. head for the import racks, kiddies!

A sadly familiar routine for any American Pulp fan!

scott p., Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

If you want vinyl, anyway. The CDs are available as US domestic.

Sean, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sure, but, like, six months after the UK release.

Ooh, actually, I'll be in the UK in late October as it is, which really just saves on shipping anyway...

scott p., Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

US domestic CDs, Sean? The first I've heard of this being the case. Is there a link you can direct me to?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Forget distributors. Do what I do - order 'em online (Amazon.co.uk, Tower, Virgin or one of those...)

Jason, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"Bob Lind" is my theme song. "Sunrise" is probably single of the year so far but there's better to come. "Bad Cover Version" is fantastic. I do think "Birds In Your Garden" and "I Love Life" are weaker than the live versions floating around for ages, but overall I'd say it's a better record than This Is Hardcore which was a bit overcooked (tho still fantastic). Not as good as Separations or Different Class though.

EdwardO, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

well, it looks like this isn't going to be a popular opinion, but i do think everything post-Different Class is a bit of a letdown, veering between ok and dull. i also don't like it when bands release a self-titled album when they're already into their career.

gareth, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not self-titled, though. It was, but the title has been changed.

Nicole, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with Gareth. When did this trend start, naming non-debut albums eponymously? Whoever started it deserves to have their brain scooped out with a coathanger. Often you hear the artists say something along the lines of "this album defines our sound/our direction/who we are". That really irks me. But "We Love Life" is an even worse name. Maybe that could be a thread in itself...

EdwardO, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The album's wonderful, great, yes, etc -- but for some reason, I'm not finding myself listening to it all that often. Maybe I don't need this record right now the way I needed the last two

Yeah, I mean it's pretty good but I'd rather listen to my other stuff. I don't know exactly what it is about it, it's the same thing with the new Spiritualized. I just don't want to listen to them.

Ally, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Seeing as Scott Walker's been mentioned - could anyone recommend some tracks, a representation of his 'sound', and the classics. I'm criminally ignorant of his work.

K-reg, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Scott Walker-- First four lps SCOTT1 thru SCOTT4 are the classic stuff, 3 and 4 the best, all Walker originals with a few Brel songs. The first two lps have classic songs but too many MOR covers. Later lps patchy, less orchestra stuff, more rock/country, no original tracks. Compilations BOYCHILD and SINGS JACQUES BREL both excellent, the former contains most of Walkers compostions from his first five lps, none of the dross, latter all his Brel covers.

RW, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

This album sounds like Crime & the City Solution.

Otis Wheeler, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe part of my problem is that this album features Pulp at the least disco I've ever known them. Which is fine, bands need to grow and move on and you can only do a "Disco 2000" once -- but it goes some way to explaining why I'm not listening to it obsessively.

It is a nice record though. I like "Minnie Tymperly" a lot even though I heard a live version of that one awhile ago.

Ian, Friday, 5 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I've sat on the fence about Pulp for a long time. I didn't like Different Class much, fine though the singles were. I've owned TIH since release and played it maybe 5 times without much interest. UNTIL LAST NIGHT! It's fantastic - totally classic etc etc. I wonder why it took so long to sink in. I'll write more on this when I've had more chance to really figure out WHY it's so great.

Dr. C, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...
Built like a racing snake Pulp frontman Jarvis Cocker is set to release his first ever solo album in mid-2006.

Yes, it will indeed be Cocker's first time, as he apparently felt the new material wasn't suitable for his old band Pulp.

http://www.playlouder.com/news/+jarvis-shocker/

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link

wasn't most pulp pretty much jarvis cocker solo stuff?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

hardly

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

This misunderstanding is prob because he was the only constant member (which is mainly due to It being made by essentially a completely different band).

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Jarvis hit bittorrent today. Listening now. I've never been a huge fan of the man or Pulp in general, but this album's got plenty to chew on.

And if that isn't an actual sample of "Crimson & Clover" in "Black Magic," it's a flawless reproduction.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

what's a "racing snake"?

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, there's no question about it. "Black Magic" = "Crimson & Clover." Is Richard X behind this?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm liking it! Got the Crimson & Clover thing too, but that's alright. Seeing as how there's surpringly much MOR-rockers on this album, and it still sounds nice and 'now'.

Gerard (Gerard), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Contacting Jarvis Cocker - (a myspace link)

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

So last night I saw the first US date of his new Jarv Is... deal. In brief, no spoilers: ridiculously good show, unsurprisingly. Fifth time I’ve seen him in any context and he’s fully achieved the look of ‘seedy literature professor from a regional university down the disco in 1975.’ Band’s sharp, a couple of old and very appropriate favorites played, but mostly stellar new songs, lots of different musical approaches, genius lines one after the other. And he was of course an understated raconteur between songs.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 October 2018 17:19 (two years ago) link

seven months pass...

Finally releasing some music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U720Rz_jz_A

More than a little hammy, especially at the start, but gets good in a psychedelic/motorik kind of way as it goes on.

Much better than anything on Further Complications anyway.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 13:10 (one year ago) link

I was gonna say!

I've never been able to get into Jarvis' solo work on anywhere near the same level as prime-era Pulp.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 17:39 (one year ago) link

I've been revisiting the first solo album and I really love it. It's got a pervasive, convincing gloom about it and the full "Loss Adjuster" (released as a b-side) is great.

Simon H., Wednesday, 15 May 2019 17:48 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Just discovered his 3-part documentary from 1999 about outsider art, great stuff, wish he made more art documentaries like this.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 00:16 (two weeks ago) link

Last year when I was trying to search out music by “JARV” I found the white indie rapper JARV from Vermont and fell in love with his stuff a tiny bit. Thank you once again Mr Cocker!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 00:27 (two weeks ago) link

I just want to add he's the middle class son of a Tory councillor .. and it shows .. and fuck the talentless cunt!

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:32 (two weeks ago) link

So what you're saying is

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:19 (two weeks ago) link

BREAKING: Jarvis Cocker may be middle class

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:26 (two weeks ago) link

there wasn't any ambiguity there Ned, so either say something or fucking don't! He's a tedious conservative prick as a cultural commentator whenever I encounter him on the radio and his music is utter shite - so that is indeed what I am saying!

xp: and you can fuck off as well sic!

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:27 (two weeks ago) link

I received Jarv Is as a xmas gift. I loved the first solo album and was disappointed by the second, so I had low expectations. Turns out the sound of the album is very nice, kinda shaggy and loose. The songs aren't really there, but it was a good listen.

Awful name for a project though.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:34 (two weeks ago) link

sorry I'm just a bit pissed tonight and have always hated this tool

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:40 (two weeks ago) link

Jarvis, i mean!

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:40 (two weeks ago) link

BREAKING: Jarvis Cocker may be middle class

possibly a bad idea for him to try and forge a career doing abysmal and trite social commentary where he positions himself as working class then, eh lads?

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:48 (two weeks ago) link

would rather watch journeys into my battered haemorrhoids with any random shameless burnt out brit-pop wanker on the beeb, reeling out the usual cliches and straining to sound interesting whilst saying nothing

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:58 (two weeks ago) link

okay go nap it off now

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 04:17 (two weeks ago) link

calzino, please don't take this the wrong way, but could you just not? please?

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 06:58 (two weeks ago) link

And you know we have discussed this at exhaustive length elsewhere, but the song Common People is about upper middle class people in London assuming you are working class. because you are from the north, his political views (see "Running The World") are pretty sound.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 07:03 (two weeks ago) link

I guarantee you I won't trouble this thread on this utter non-entity ever again!

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 09:56 (two weeks ago) link

what's yr favourite song on 2020's JARV IS album calz?

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:06 (two weeks ago) link

I was just blasting out HP Sauce '77 whilst doing the school run in my very middle-class hyundai hatchback the other day!

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:16 (two weeks ago) link

would rather watch journeys into my battered haemorrhoids with any random shameless burnt out brit-pop wanker

Shitters with Rick Witter.

Twelves, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 15:31 (two weeks ago) link

alky misery :(

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 16:21 (two weeks ago) link

Rick Witter had a greatest hits album go top ten in 1999, he was still a ways off the toilet circuit, let alone burning out up calzino's fundament

"Rick Witter's British Shitters" should absolutely be a travel show though

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 19:14 (two weeks ago) link


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