Beastie Boys: Classic or Dud?

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Hip-hop heroes or palefaced pretenders? Would you prefer they fight for the right to party or fight for the right of Tibetan Buddhists to govern themselves? Are they even slightly relevant anymore? CLASSIC or DUD?

Mark Richardson, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

This is a tough one because I find them almost viscerally annoying individuals and the only one of their last few albums I've heard all the way through (Hello Nasty) bored my teeth out. So why tough? Well, partly because Licensed To Ill is plainly one of the greatest records ever made.

Partly also because I dont know how much of my dislike is music and how much is context (not that you can separate them really): I mean "Intergalactic" was a fun single for a few plays. When you go to indie clubs or to parties or to people's houses and it is the ONLY THING WITH A BEAT YOU HEAR it gets a bit grating. ("Body Movin'" was shit from the off, though). So while I deplore the fact that the Beastie Boys have for most of the 90s been the now-I-will-like-some- hip-hop choice of every student, thats not the Boys' fault. Or is it?

The problem is they're awful rappers. This matched the themes of Licensed perfectly but nowadays it's just tiresome - so occasionally you'll hear something good ("Sabotage" I like a whole lot mostly cause it's not pretending to be hip-hop at all) but generally it's blah. So dud, nowadays.

I'm conflicted about Grand Royal the magazine, too. On the one hand these kind of this-is-cool magazines piss me off even as a joke. On the other hand it's often right.

Tom, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Blech. Pavlovian response generated from too many bad eighth grade parties, the kind where everyone wants to drink beer but no one can find any. Dud.

Licensed to Ill is not one of the greatest records ever made, either. It's got a handful of (now extremely tired) classics and a lot of filler. I couldn't listen to it all the way through, so I gave it to my little brother a couple of years ago. And HE doesn't even listen to it. And he's 14!

Ian White, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

They're passable, but not even slightly relevant, not even enough to call them a classic or a dud. I like Paul's Boutique. I like bits of all the albums. But I think they merit a search and destroy: "So Whatcha Want" is all anyone really needs.

Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The Beasties are one of those groups that can do no wrong, and I can understand why: a catalogue of proven, solid records with two guaranteed classics (Ill and Boutique), singles out the rear end, endearing personalities, a public (if misguided) social stance (Tibet) and a sonic growth from hardcore to white-rap to sonic chemists... plus they all play their instruments pretty well.

It shouldn't even be a question.

JM, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a tape of "The In Sound from Way Out" I stole from a friend I'm no longer in contact with and I don't mind it - however I hate everything else (aside from "Fight For Your Right" and "Hey Ladies" which still stand up fairly well today) Overexposure and the fact that seemingly everyone I know adores them doesn't help them one bit. At the very least, they all deserve to be punched out for the travesty that was "Intergalactic". Oh how I hated that song. Dud.

Edward Okulicz, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic, "Paul's Boutique" is one of the best records of all-time. 1st album is also classic as is the "She's On It" single. "Check your Head" is one of the best party-drug records ever, so that helps their classic status. After that things got patchy, "Licensed to Ill" is overrated, "Hello Nasty" is just okay, but still has some classic moments. Not bad for 3 irritating guys.

Omar, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"Paul's Boutique" and "Check Your Head" were far ahead of their time. Since then it's been pretty much on coast. Beck's "Odelay" was a critical orgasm, but it was little more than Paul's Boutique Part 2 (and I'm guessing the upcoming Tenacious D record will be Part 3). Check Your Head had constant rotation in my 1983 Buick Century on the way to school and back in 1992. For the simple fact that they managed to find a GOOD hybrid of rock and rap, I give it up. Even if they found some old Jimmy Smith records and thought they could "jam."

brent d., Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

You know what? It's really all about "Paul Revere". Other than that one song, I could do without.

Dan Perry, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

They've always been abysmal, always will be.

the pinefox, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The back cover of 'Ill Communication' (I think - the one with 'sabotage' on it anyway) says it all for me: "Look at the funny coloured people! They've got natural rhythm you know! Wasn't Shaft a good film!" Patronising bastards.

DG, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

2 or 3 excellent albums merit a "classic" in my book, and the the Beastie Boys have them. During the early 90s, it was _Paul's Boutique_ that was seen as the masterpiece, but the debut will definitlely be the one that endurers. Probably not coincidentally, the debut is the one you're still most likely to hear a DJ play. It's classic stuff.

They're swirling down the toilet at breakneck pace now, that last track was awful as was the last album. Tom, re your comment about the rapping -- I thought MCA was pretty good for a while there, as on "A Year And A Day" and "Professor Booty." But the other two suck, yeah, for sure. Great videos, though, which no one has men

Mark Richardson, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Totally fucking CLASSIC, no doubt.

They have been consistently 4-5 years ahead of their time with every album they put out. LICENSE TO ILL: White brat rap that pulled it off the street and into your house (via MTV). Weren't afraid to sample the most obvious beats. PAULS BOUTIQUE: Only the best rap album ever. The 70s beats and style predated the general populus' 70s revival by 4 years. CHECK YOUR HEAD: By the time everyone else was catching onto the 70s thing, the Boys come out with something COMPLETELY different. They combine punk, funk, soundtrack stuff, classic rap, play their own instruments, etc... Constantly pushing the boundaries.

Need I go on? Well, they might have faded *slightly* after that, but the rest of the albums are still really good and do still show growth. Also, look at their instrumental stuff. Quite good and varied. Impressive resume for 3 snotty kids from Brooklyn.

Tim Baier, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
While I never caught on to the Beasties back in 1986, but I do have Licence to Ill on tape, having bought the cd of Hello Nasty (originally I bought it along with Fatboy Slim's Baby you've come a long way, then I fell for Hello Nasty ) I was genuinely surprised at their taste and diversity of their musical influences. Hello Nasty was the Beasties last studio album and I think it represents them the best, especially their duet with Lee "Scratch" Perry with the track "Dr Lee,PHD" and the way the album has pasted all the tracks together makes the album feel and sound very straight- off-the-street and very inspirational. I've listened to Licence to Ill about seven or eight times and I still think that the album captures the BB in their true spirit but like all young musical artists, they had to grow up, but their humourous cartoonish vocals and humour that they injected on Licence to Ill remains on Hello Nasty and it does the album justice.

By far Hello Nasty is their most noble and mature album they have ever recorded and, too me, the one that represents them the most sincerely.

Jimmy S, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't the title of "hello Nasty" supposed to be some kind of indie- rock in-joke? cause i don't get it!

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i had forgotten how fucking annoying mark's use of the term 'pale-faced pretenders' is in the original question.

ethan, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

You had forgotten how annoying his use of "palefaced pretenders" was in the original question? Since when? Since you read the question? Short memory. Or has that specific phrase actually been used before (rather than its myriad analogues that are constantly applied to them)?

Anyway, the Beastie Boys ARE "palefaced pretenders", if by that you mean that they wear their influences on their sleeves. But, dismal and annoying "License to Ill" aside, they've chanelled that influence into innovation nearly unmatched in hip-hop. "Paul's Boutique", "Check Your Head" and "Ill Communication" are certified classics in my book, each great in its own unique way. So, despite wanted to slap their annoying faces with "License to Ill" and wanting to do it again with the try-to-hard old-schoolness of "Hello Nasty"...Classic.

Dan I., Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

check yr head is ok they are so patronizing though they make me sick not because they are bad rappers or musicians or "co-opt" hip hop - just the whole smug business aesthetic / envelope of "cool" they invent for themselves & that godawful new-agey preacheyness they have, i mean, really - fuck off!

bob snoom, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

You got a point there. And how the hell did "I don't buy cheeba, I grow it" turn into "Don't smoke cheeba, can't stand crack"?

Dan I., Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Basically I have searched for the best music ever, and through out every genre Pauls Boutique reigns supreme. Sgt. Pepper, Hendrix, or any legend You just can't fuck with Pauls B.

Let it remain

Slade donn, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i fuck with paul's buttocks every evening

bob snoom, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a Paul's Boutique tattoo so I'll definitely have to say classic.

Samantha, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

pauls boutique tattoo? what? (and where??)

dbini, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The entire panorama on Ludlow St???

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
dud!

Karl J Kretzschmar, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

To understand how they went from fighting for the right to party and fighting for freedom in Tibet, you'd have to check out the sounds of science where the explain that...The Beastie Boys are great. They have fun lyrics and lyrics that mean something; they write their own music; they play their own music, so they are talented for sure. Since they've been around longer than I have, I say classic.

Gillian Brady, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Their lyrics are usually hit-or-miss, but their charisma is undeniable -- even during their early hardcore days; any song that contains the unusually juxtaposed line "I like Batman/I like Crass" ("Holy Snappers") wins bonus points with me. They might've seemed like boorish assholes in '87, but looking at their video for "Fight For Your Right to Party" now they come across in retrospect as some sort of cartoonish vaudeville Marx Brothers types. Basically they're goofball pop culture tourists and believe it or not I think pop music needs a bit of that every so often. Classic.

Nate Patrin, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to say that the Beasties are surely way too clued for anyone to seriously entertain the possibility labelling them as duds.

These guys plainly know their shit and not only do they possess the musical skills, they are 'setters, they appear to be self-depreciating and they rip the fucking piss. These are good things, by the way. The cops vid - I know it's tired but it still reigns as the joint I'm afraid. And for all the ho-hum tracks, they write enough killers to be forgiven the toss.

I like em. I respect em. They played the game to their rules. And won. Sure they're a pain in the ass. But you need these boys: totally classic.

Roger Fascist, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"they appear to be self-depreciating"

Are they marking their own albs down at the Record and Tape now?

Andrew L, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i do still like them, but

I have to say that the Beasties are surely way too clued for anyone to seriously entertain the possibility labelling them as duds

this kind of gets to the root of the problem with me. they are too clued, this is kind of their problem - because they are clued everything comes across as kind of reverent, theres a lack of *something* sometimes, as though they know all the mistakes not to make, so they don't make them. i don't know, i'm not getting this across too well,

gareth, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

it's like, what WOULD throw them, cz they're sure keeping their distance

mark s, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i like em too, but i don't love em

mark s, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I know what Gareth means, there is a... distance (?) to the Beaties trip but I'm not sure that comes from being "too clued". I reckon it might be something to do with three guys hanging out since time, getting crazy and sitting in hot-box rooms making wacky music. I mean, how much can an audience *really* relate to music that is engendered on such a plane; and more, documents and celebrates that plane.

Roger Fascist, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

A Jewish friend once said the Beasties have the quality of getting away with something--obnoxious/ugly/middle class/New York/Jewish guys doing stigmatized black music and going balls out. They were a great joke, and a liberating one.

I liked their schtick, LOVED their magazine, was happy to see their vids, enjoyed their pranks. I don't question their worth as an industry. I just think their achievements in irreverance on CD are pretty minor. "So Watcha Want" is their only transcendent hip hop single, and anyone who thinks Paul's Boutique is the greatest rap album of all time just isn't listening for the same things I look for in rap music, things that usually have something to do with, you know, rapping.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...
Classic. Beastie Boys are the Beatles of Now.

(btw, I don't think the Beatles were perfect so I ain't saying the Beasties are, dig?).

More people should voice their two cents on this group. They're more fun than any other ex-beerbrawlers-turned-new-age-buddhists. Allegedly MCA has an emo band. Their protest song has Zoolander quotes. They need an editor bad. They take an ungodly amount of time between albums. They're white rappers. Ad-Rock, who kicked the cutie in the patootie and needs girls to do his laundry, is dating Kathleen Hanna. They really look awkward when they play their own instruments. And when they're on, they make me happier than any other group ever.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 00:34 (sixteen years ago) link

They're the San Francisco of hip-hop. Paul's Boutique is classic, but they tend to ride a pretty high horse.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Isn't the title of "hello Nasty" supposed to be some kind of indie- rock in-joke? cause i don't get it!

nasty = nasty little man = public relations firm (dealing w/ beastie boys but more importantly ATP) = "hello nasty" = receptionist's phrase.

They're the San Francisco of hip-hop.

wtf? they are the west islip of hip-hop. not to mention they live in your town... just cuz they "pimp" harputs does not mean BB = SF... ew gross.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry gygax, it's the smug self-satisfaction that accompanies some truly great moments...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link

some truly great moments...

reminder: this is the beastie boys thread.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:37 (sixteen years ago) link

gygax!? I'm the EGG MAN. thwack!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I AM A WEREWOLF.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:40 (sixteen years ago) link

"it's the smug self-satisfaction that accompanies some truly great moments"

As an SF resident, I can't tell if I'm supposed to be offended or not...

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link

be offended, be very offended...

btw when is your both show shakey mo?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:42 (sixteen years ago) link

shit, when SHOULD you be smugly self-satisfied if not during your truly great moments?

I hope you haven't heard LL Cool J.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Tues. May 13th. Prior to that we are having a super-extravaganza space-travel show on Saturday, April 12th, at a warehouse down on 18th and Minnesota.

I'll defend the Beasties (on some levels), I just don't get where this weird regional insult is coming from, or what it has to do with anything...

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link

ANTHONY!

HI! I have heard LL COOL J! OMG! HAHA! LOL! ^_^

sounds good shakey mo, let me know the details.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I work with a divorced woman who when asked why she left her husband always replies
"he was a BIG beastie boy fan and......." it always trails off in a sigh

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link

did NO one notice THIS:

Beck's "Odelay" was a critical orgasm, but it was little more than Paul's Boutique Part 2 (and I'm guessing the upcoming Tenacious D record will be Part 3).

hahahaha. sigh.

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link

he should have called Odelay sloppy seconds.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link

My favorite Beastie Boys track is "%33 God" which is an instrumental of "Shake Your Rump".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 02:24 (sixteen years ago) link

“lovey and thurston howell-ing, the grasshopper unit is prowl-ing”

how can you be down on the rapping with gems like that

the late great, Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:38 (one year ago) link

I watched the MTV thing last night. It really captures the whiplash of the changes through their first three albums. They were genuinely funny the way the early Beatles were, and leveraged their unexpected superstardom just as effectively. The brattiness holds up so unexpectedly well, probably because the tunes do too.

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:05 (one year ago) link

i'm with late great, absolutely love hello nasty

intergalactic was a staple of high school dances, what a sick song to bust out to

montoya (Ross), Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:06 (one year ago) link

Hello Nasty yeah it’s probably my fifth favorite. It is ridiculously good though, I think the music and beats and lyrics are great, and the rapping style they utilized here might seem a bit formulaic now but it’s the beastie boys so it’s a blast throughout.

omar little, Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:40 (one year ago) link

I'm curious to know if they mean anything to the 18-30 set. Based on my observation, no.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:48 (one year ago) link

A young and impetuous Capt James T Kirk begs 2 differ

canary christ (stevie), Sunday, 7 October 2018 18:13 (one year ago) link

Well I'm the king of Boggle, there is none higher
I get eleven points off the word 'quagmire'

montoya (Ross), Sunday, 7 October 2018 18:40 (one year ago) link

You can get Beasties nostalgia tees at Target and Walmart, so I imagine they still have some cachet.

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 7 October 2018 19:04 (one year ago) link

Just went on a mini Momo Crawl in honor of Adam Yauch.

Harper Valley CTA-102 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 October 2018 20:25 (one year ago) link

one year passes...
two months pass...

Our evening began in Peter Sechelle’s comfortable study in his New York townhouse. Where the candlelight was just right, the hi fi was in the background, and the wine was delicious.

calstars, Saturday, 11 January 2020 15:10 (two weeks ago) link

https://open.spotify.com/track/2wtNNJTXnYi1LLNP7dbbae

calstars, Saturday, 11 January 2020 15:24 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_NAHTLDpcM

mizzell, Saturday, 11 January 2020 15:50 (two weeks ago) link

cool

calstars, Saturday, 11 January 2020 18:09 (two weeks ago) link

Haha I have a Spotify playlist of 10,000 songs that I often play on shuffle and Blue Nun came up just this morning when I was driving home from the bank.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Saturday, 11 January 2020 20:42 (two weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

hankies at the ready, folks, this is gonna be emotional

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=27&v=0aCBDL1sUY8&feature=emb_title

the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 15:42 (four hours ago) link

great revive

pomenitul, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 15:43 (four hours ago) link

ffs

the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 15:44 (four hours ago) link

Glad it's on Apple+ to guarantee maximum exposure.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:08 (three hours ago) link

can't wait to torrent it on april 24 so i can watch it on my birthday the next day

the main character Cooly and his fart attack (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:09 (three hours ago) link

so it's like a screening with live commentary... or something?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:29 (three hours ago) link

it's kind of unclear!

I'm looking forward to watching it whatever the format. The book and a couple podcast interviews reminded me of all the things I enjoyed about the Beastie Boys when I was younger and made me realize why I drifted away and decided something was inherently uncool about them at some point -- they were inherently uncynical, perpetually learning and doing what they enjoyed.

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:36 (three hours ago) link

I got off the bus when their rhyming got lazier

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:40 (three hours ago) link

that's when things started to get hazier

maffew12, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:41 (three hours ago) link

Hey Shakey!

TS: Kirk/Spock vs. Marat/Sade (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:44 (three hours ago) link

it was around the time when they defaulted to that rhyme-style of everybody yelling the last syllable of every line in unison

xps

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:44 (three hours ago) link

they might have started defaulting to that but they kind of did that all along?

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:45 (three hours ago) link

it's something they copped from Run DMC and there's nothing wrong with it - but there's a lot more variety to the rhyming styles on the first three records. Once you get to Hello Nasty though, that's the only style they use.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:48 (three hours ago) link

fair enough

I was immediately thinking of Slow and Low when you mentioned that style, and it's.. a Run DMC song recorded by the Beastie Boys

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:50 (two hours ago) link

and I know I know by that point they were trying to do a million things - reggae, hardcore, jazz-funk, indie rock, whatever - and rapping just became one of many things they did, but their attention to the craft of it suffered, and as that was always one of the things that really drew me to them, it was disappointing and my attention wandered

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:50 (two hours ago) link

don't get me wrong I'm not knockin' em, they went where their interests guided them and that's cool, I will always love them

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:51 (two hours ago) link

The fact that they were trying to do a million things on Hello Nasty at least kept it interesting. When they decided to go to strictly hip hop with To the 5 Boroughs is probably where their lazy rhyme style ended up hurting them more.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:53 (two hours ago) link

^^ agree 100%

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:54 (two hours ago) link

they definitely just started jamming on ideas based on things they liked by the mid-90s

as a teen during the mid/late 90s it was cool to listen to them as a sort of amalgamation of things you should get into, lots of musical ideas that, like the rhymes, were a grab bag of cultural references

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:55 (two hours ago) link

agree on Nasty/Boroughs. Loved Hot Sauce Committee, it was a nice surprise to get another Hello Nasty type trip

maffew12, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:59 (two hours ago) link

I finally got around in the past year to watching the long, goofy celebrity cameo-filled video from that last album and it's in this weird technological gap where it exists online but only in a low resolution grainy version.

like there's this entire media shift that they didn't bridge as the project ended and MCA died :(

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:03 (two hours ago) link

Hello Nasty was the last album I bought. Liked it initially and then less and less each listen. The production style/textures/equipment had no life to it.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:33 (two hours ago) link

That's one of the crazy things about BB to me, that they never really updated their rap style from their old school roots, yet managed to make it feel adequately fresh (for at least 12+ years) by re-contextualizing it with their music/production, which was always curious and evolving.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:35 (two hours ago) link

they definitely never before or after seemed to really try to write rhymes on the same level they did on Paul's Boutique

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:44 (two hours ago) link

the peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtEVKO9_ZDY

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:47 (two hours ago) link

I only just noticed that they recycle (but reverse) the "We're from Manhattan, you're from Secaucus" put down from "Rock Hard" in "The New Style."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:51 (one hour ago) link

I did once enjoy Ad-Rock doing his shtick whilst ordering lunch on line in front of me, but yeah.

TS: Kirk/Spock vs. Marat/Sade (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:53 (one hour ago) link

I'm sure I've posted about it before, but my favorite BB story was when I went to see a history of hip-hop exhibit at the Brooklyn Academy of Music. My friend and I were freaking out that one of the only other people in there that day/time was Yauch. It must have been around sukkot, because outside the museum were all these Lubavitch Jews in wait, ready to hand out a lulav and etrog (palm frond and citrus fruit) and corner you about your beliefs. My friend and I think, aw man, we're as Jewish as they look, there's so way we can get through the gauntlet. So we prepare ourselves, but they zoom right past us and straight to Yauch. So thanks for taking the heat, Yauch.

My second favorite was seeing them right when "Check Your Head" came out, in '92, at close to the nadir of their coolness (but right before they became cooler than everybody else) at the Troc in Philly, with fIREHOSE and Basehead opening. That show ruuuuuuuuuuuled. They came out and did PE's "Sophisticated Bitch" with fIREHOSE.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:11 (one hour ago) link

oh fuck yeah, fIREHOSE used to totally rip it up on that tune, I saw them do it in maybe 1989

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:15 (one hour ago) link

I was so pissed that I couldn't get anyone to drive me up to see that bill in Oakland - I think the Butthole Surfers were on it as well?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:17 (one hour ago) link

Hello Nasty is one of the few late 90's full CD runtime grab bag albums actually worth listening to from front to back

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:19 (one hour ago) link

fIREHOSE used to totally rip it up on that tune, I saw them do it in maybe 1989

Thirded

TS: Kirk/Spock vs. Marat/Sade (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:31 (one hour ago) link

As far as covers go that whole '92 live EP was pretty hip: PE, Buttholes, Wire, BOC, Superchunk. Really couldn't go wrong whichever way you went for further research after that.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 18:53 (fifty-five minutes ago) link


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