Beastie Boys: Classic or Dud?

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Hip-hop heroes or palefaced pretenders? Would you prefer they fight for the right to party or fight for the right of Tibetan Buddhists to govern themselves? Are they even slightly relevant anymore? CLASSIC or DUD?

Mark Richardson, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

This is a tough one because I find them almost viscerally annoying individuals and the only one of their last few albums I've heard all the way through (Hello Nasty) bored my teeth out. So why tough? Well, partly because Licensed To Ill is plainly one of the greatest records ever made.

Partly also because I dont know how much of my dislike is music and how much is context (not that you can separate them really): I mean "Intergalactic" was a fun single for a few plays. When you go to indie clubs or to parties or to people's houses and it is the ONLY THING WITH A BEAT YOU HEAR it gets a bit grating. ("Body Movin'" was shit from the off, though). So while I deplore the fact that the Beastie Boys have for most of the 90s been the now-I-will-like-some- hip-hop choice of every student, thats not the Boys' fault. Or is it?

The problem is they're awful rappers. This matched the themes of Licensed perfectly but nowadays it's just tiresome - so occasionally you'll hear something good ("Sabotage" I like a whole lot mostly cause it's not pretending to be hip-hop at all) but generally it's blah. So dud, nowadays.

I'm conflicted about Grand Royal the magazine, too. On the one hand these kind of this-is-cool magazines piss me off even as a joke. On the other hand it's often right.

Tom, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Blech. Pavlovian response generated from too many bad eighth grade parties, the kind where everyone wants to drink beer but no one can find any. Dud.

Licensed to Ill is not one of the greatest records ever made, either. It's got a handful of (now extremely tired) classics and a lot of filler. I couldn't listen to it all the way through, so I gave it to my little brother a couple of years ago. And HE doesn't even listen to it. And he's 14!

Ian White, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

They're passable, but not even slightly relevant, not even enough to call them a classic or a dud. I like Paul's Boutique. I like bits of all the albums. But I think they merit a search and destroy: "So Whatcha Want" is all anyone really needs.

Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The Beasties are one of those groups that can do no wrong, and I can understand why: a catalogue of proven, solid records with two guaranteed classics (Ill and Boutique), singles out the rear end, endearing personalities, a public (if misguided) social stance (Tibet) and a sonic growth from hardcore to white-rap to sonic chemists... plus they all play their instruments pretty well.

It shouldn't even be a question.

JM, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a tape of "The In Sound from Way Out" I stole from a friend I'm no longer in contact with and I don't mind it - however I hate everything else (aside from "Fight For Your Right" and "Hey Ladies" which still stand up fairly well today) Overexposure and the fact that seemingly everyone I know adores them doesn't help them one bit. At the very least, they all deserve to be punched out for the travesty that was "Intergalactic". Oh how I hated that song. Dud.

Edward Okulicz, Saturday, 10 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic, "Paul's Boutique" is one of the best records of all-time. 1st album is also classic as is the "She's On It" single. "Check your Head" is one of the best party-drug records ever, so that helps their classic status. After that things got patchy, "Licensed to Ill" is overrated, "Hello Nasty" is just okay, but still has some classic moments. Not bad for 3 irritating guys.

Omar, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"Paul's Boutique" and "Check Your Head" were far ahead of their time. Since then it's been pretty much on coast. Beck's "Odelay" was a critical orgasm, but it was little more than Paul's Boutique Part 2 (and I'm guessing the upcoming Tenacious D record will be Part 3). Check Your Head had constant rotation in my 1983 Buick Century on the way to school and back in 1992. For the simple fact that they managed to find a GOOD hybrid of rock and rap, I give it up. Even if they found some old Jimmy Smith records and thought they could "jam."

brent d., Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

You know what? It's really all about "Paul Revere". Other than that one song, I could do without.

Dan Perry, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

They've always been abysmal, always will be.

the pinefox, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The back cover of 'Ill Communication' (I think - the one with 'sabotage' on it anyway) says it all for me: "Look at the funny coloured people! They've got natural rhythm you know! Wasn't Shaft a good film!" Patronising bastards.

DG, Monday, 12 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

2 or 3 excellent albums merit a "classic" in my book, and the the Beastie Boys have them. During the early 90s, it was _Paul's Boutique_ that was seen as the masterpiece, but the debut will definitlely be the one that endurers. Probably not coincidentally, the debut is the one you're still most likely to hear a DJ play. It's classic stuff.

They're swirling down the toilet at breakneck pace now, that last track was awful as was the last album. Tom, re your comment about the rapping -- I thought MCA was pretty good for a while there, as on "A Year And A Day" and "Professor Booty." But the other two suck, yeah, for sure. Great videos, though, which no one has men

Mark Richardson, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Totally fucking CLASSIC, no doubt.

They have been consistently 4-5 years ahead of their time with every album they put out. LICENSE TO ILL: White brat rap that pulled it off the street and into your house (via MTV). Weren't afraid to sample the most obvious beats. PAULS BOUTIQUE: Only the best rap album ever. The 70s beats and style predated the general populus' 70s revival by 4 years. CHECK YOUR HEAD: By the time everyone else was catching onto the 70s thing, the Boys come out with something COMPLETELY different. They combine punk, funk, soundtrack stuff, classic rap, play their own instruments, etc... Constantly pushing the boundaries.

Need I go on? Well, they might have faded *slightly* after that, but the rest of the albums are still really good and do still show growth. Also, look at their instrumental stuff. Quite good and varied. Impressive resume for 3 snotty kids from Brooklyn.

Tim Baier, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
While I never caught on to the Beasties back in 1986, but I do have Licence to Ill on tape, having bought the cd of Hello Nasty (originally I bought it along with Fatboy Slim's Baby you've come a long way, then I fell for Hello Nasty ) I was genuinely surprised at their taste and diversity of their musical influences. Hello Nasty was the Beasties last studio album and I think it represents them the best, especially their duet with Lee "Scratch" Perry with the track "Dr Lee,PHD" and the way the album has pasted all the tracks together makes the album feel and sound very straight- off-the-street and very inspirational. I've listened to Licence to Ill about seven or eight times and I still think that the album captures the BB in their true spirit but like all young musical artists, they had to grow up, but their humourous cartoonish vocals and humour that they injected on Licence to Ill remains on Hello Nasty and it does the album justice.

By far Hello Nasty is their most noble and mature album they have ever recorded and, too me, the one that represents them the most sincerely.

Jimmy S, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't the title of "hello Nasty" supposed to be some kind of indie- rock in-joke? cause i don't get it!

Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i had forgotten how fucking annoying mark's use of the term 'pale-faced pretenders' is in the original question.

ethan, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

You had forgotten how annoying his use of "palefaced pretenders" was in the original question? Since when? Since you read the question? Short memory. Or has that specific phrase actually been used before (rather than its myriad analogues that are constantly applied to them)?

Anyway, the Beastie Boys ARE "palefaced pretenders", if by that you mean that they wear their influences on their sleeves. But, dismal and annoying "License to Ill" aside, they've chanelled that influence into innovation nearly unmatched in hip-hop. "Paul's Boutique", "Check Your Head" and "Ill Communication" are certified classics in my book, each great in its own unique way. So, despite wanted to slap their annoying faces with "License to Ill" and wanting to do it again with the try-to-hard old-schoolness of "Hello Nasty"...Classic.

Dan I., Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

check yr head is ok they are so patronizing though they make me sick not because they are bad rappers or musicians or "co-opt" hip hop - just the whole smug business aesthetic / envelope of "cool" they invent for themselves & that godawful new-agey preacheyness they have, i mean, really - fuck off!

bob snoom, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

You got a point there. And how the hell did "I don't buy cheeba, I grow it" turn into "Don't smoke cheeba, can't stand crack"?

Dan I., Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Basically I have searched for the best music ever, and through out every genre Pauls Boutique reigns supreme. Sgt. Pepper, Hendrix, or any legend You just can't fuck with Pauls B.

Let it remain

Slade donn, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i fuck with paul's buttocks every evening

bob snoom, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I have a Paul's Boutique tattoo so I'll definitely have to say classic.

Samantha, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

pauls boutique tattoo? what? (and where??)

dbini, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The entire panorama on Ludlow St???

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
dud!

Karl J Kretzschmar, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

To understand how they went from fighting for the right to party and fighting for freedom in Tibet, you'd have to check out the sounds of science where the explain that...The Beastie Boys are great. They have fun lyrics and lyrics that mean something; they write their own music; they play their own music, so they are talented for sure. Since they've been around longer than I have, I say classic.

Gillian Brady, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Their lyrics are usually hit-or-miss, but their charisma is undeniable -- even during their early hardcore days; any song that contains the unusually juxtaposed line "I like Batman/I like Crass" ("Holy Snappers") wins bonus points with me. They might've seemed like boorish assholes in '87, but looking at their video for "Fight For Your Right to Party" now they come across in retrospect as some sort of cartoonish vaudeville Marx Brothers types. Basically they're goofball pop culture tourists and believe it or not I think pop music needs a bit of that every so often. Classic.

Nate Patrin, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I have to say that the Beasties are surely way too clued for anyone to seriously entertain the possibility labelling them as duds.

These guys plainly know their shit and not only do they possess the musical skills, they are 'setters, they appear to be self-depreciating and they rip the fucking piss. These are good things, by the way. The cops vid - I know it's tired but it still reigns as the joint I'm afraid. And for all the ho-hum tracks, they write enough killers to be forgiven the toss.

I like em. I respect em. They played the game to their rules. And won. Sure they're a pain in the ass. But you need these boys: totally classic.

Roger Fascist, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"they appear to be self-depreciating"

Are they marking their own albs down at the Record and Tape now?

Andrew L, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i do still like them, but

I have to say that the Beasties are surely way too clued for anyone to seriously entertain the possibility labelling them as duds

this kind of gets to the root of the problem with me. they are too clued, this is kind of their problem - because they are clued everything comes across as kind of reverent, theres a lack of *something* sometimes, as though they know all the mistakes not to make, so they don't make them. i don't know, i'm not getting this across too well,

gareth, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

it's like, what WOULD throw them, cz they're sure keeping their distance

mark s, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i like em too, but i don't love em

mark s, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I know what Gareth means, there is a... distance (?) to the Beaties trip but I'm not sure that comes from being "too clued". I reckon it might be something to do with three guys hanging out since time, getting crazy and sitting in hot-box rooms making wacky music. I mean, how much can an audience *really* relate to music that is engendered on such a plane; and more, documents and celebrates that plane.

Roger Fascist, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

A Jewish friend once said the Beasties have the quality of getting away with something--obnoxious/ugly/middle class/New York/Jewish guys doing stigmatized black music and going balls out. They were a great joke, and a liberating one.

I liked their schtick, LOVED their magazine, was happy to see their vids, enjoyed their pranks. I don't question their worth as an industry. I just think their achievements in irreverance on CD are pretty minor. "So Watcha Want" is their only transcendent hip hop single, and anyone who thinks Paul's Boutique is the greatest rap album of all time just isn't listening for the same things I look for in rap music, things that usually have something to do with, you know, rapping.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
Classic. Beastie Boys are the Beatles of Now.

(btw, I don't think the Beatles were perfect so I ain't saying the Beasties are, dig?).

More people should voice their two cents on this group. They're more fun than any other ex-beerbrawlers-turned-new-age-buddhists. Allegedly MCA has an emo band. Their protest song has Zoolander quotes. They need an editor bad. They take an ungodly amount of time between albums. They're white rappers. Ad-Rock, who kicked the cutie in the patootie and needs girls to do his laundry, is dating Kathleen Hanna. They really look awkward when they play their own instruments. And when they're on, they make me happier than any other group ever.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

They're the San Francisco of hip-hop. Paul's Boutique is classic, but they tend to ride a pretty high horse.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't the title of "hello Nasty" supposed to be some kind of indie- rock in-joke? cause i don't get it!

nasty = nasty little man = public relations firm (dealing w/ beastie boys but more importantly ATP) = "hello nasty" = receptionist's phrase.

They're the San Francisco of hip-hop.

wtf? they are the west islip of hip-hop. not to mention they live in your town... just cuz they "pimp" harputs does not mean BB = SF... ew gross.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry gygax, it's the smug self-satisfaction that accompanies some truly great moments...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

some truly great moments...

reminder: this is the beastie boys thread.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link

gygax!? I'm the EGG MAN. thwack!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I AM A WEREWOLF.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

"it's the smug self-satisfaction that accompanies some truly great moments"

As an SF resident, I can't tell if I'm supposed to be offended or not...

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:41 (seventeen years ago) link

be offended, be very offended...

btw when is your both show shakey mo?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

shit, when SHOULD you be smugly self-satisfied if not during your truly great moments?

I hope you haven't heard LL Cool J.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Tues. May 13th. Prior to that we are having a super-extravaganza space-travel show on Saturday, April 12th, at a warehouse down on 18th and Minnesota.

I'll defend the Beasties (on some levels), I just don't get where this weird regional insult is coming from, or what it has to do with anything...

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

ANTHONY!

HI! I have heard LL COOL J! OMG! HAHA! LOL! ^_^

sounds good shakey mo, let me know the details.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 01:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I work with a divorced woman who when asked why she left her husband always replies
"he was a BIG beastie boy fan and......." it always trails off in a sigh

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 02:08 (seventeen years ago) link

did NO one notice THIS:

Beck's "Odelay" was a critical orgasm, but it was little more than Paul's Boutique Part 2 (and I'm guessing the upcoming Tenacious D record will be Part 3).

hahahaha. sigh.

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

he should have called Odelay sloppy seconds.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite Beastie Boys track is "%33 God" which is an instrumental of "Shake Your Rump".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah to me it's not close

Sabotage effect maybe

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 March 2020 03:48 (six months ago) link

Check Your Head was the record that really sold me on them, I thought the 1st was fun snotty party music and I hadn't really figured out Paul's Boutique yet. I took one listen to those hardcore tracks, "Lighten Up," and the hits and I was hooked.

sleeve, Monday, 16 March 2020 05:03 (six months ago) link

Mike never sounded bigger on any record. IIRC from the box set notes they rolled a giant tube of cardboard to extend the bass drum to two metres long for that dusty boom.

― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Sunday, March 15, 2020 9:09 PM (yesterday)

I figured that had to be Mike D on the drums. I'm surprised WhoSampled.com only has one record of those drums being sampled (by Autechre).

JRN, Monday, 16 March 2020 05:48 (six months ago) link

when I interviewed them around the book, Mike and Adam were very clear the tube of cardboard was just one of a series of great wacky ideas Yauch would come up with.

CYH>IC for me, but I really, really love the chaotic flow of side one, and the buddhist suite on side four, and the proto-trip-hop of Update, and Futterman's Rule is about as heavy as their funk ever got, and Ricky's Theme is just deliriously lovely. It's Sabotage I never really wanna hear again.

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 16 March 2020 06:59 (six months ago) link

Check your Head was a really big deal for me and my friends - we all loved Paul's Boutique because it got us all into disco and funk and samples and it was hip-hop that referenced the Ramones and Slayer and was everything we ever wanted.

It over three years between those records which was forever when we were 15 and when we read that there was a new Beastie Boys record coming out where they PLAYED THEIR OWN INSTRUMENTS we thought it was the most hilarious and bizzare thing we'd ever heard. It came out right before the LA Riots in my senior year of high school and was the soundtrack for the next few months; I saw them that summer and it was amazing.

Ill Communication was great in its own way but didn't have the impact on my life that the previous one did, and I felt kind of like a snob that all the bandwagon jumpers who ignored Paul's Boutique were getting back into them.

joygoat, Monday, 16 March 2020 13:09 (six months ago) link

1992 and still no one to vote for!

maffew12, Monday, 16 March 2020 13:33 (six months ago) link

I have no real idea how old many or most of you are, but as I remember it License to Ill was, of course, a huge smash, but Paul's Boutique was a huge bust. I don't remember that one getting any traction among my friends at all. It was 1989, so I would have been 14 or so, in 8th or 9th grade. By the time Check Your Head was imminent, Paul's Boutique was obscure enough that in early 1991 Spin did a charticle of the most underrated albums of all time, and it was on there with, like, Tusk and Lodger (which I'm sure is what had me listen to it). Check Your Head came out a year after that, and I remember it connecting with kids glomming on to the grunge trend more than it connected with fans of License to Ill, and in that sense it felt a little like a cult album from a new band, not a comeback. It stuck, though, and got traction in a way that Paul's Boutique (which was steadily becoming a hipster totem) hadn't, so that yeah, when Ill Communication came out that seemed like the real, ubiquitous "comeback." Obviously by the time "Odelay" came out people had caught up with "Paul's Boutique."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 March 2020 13:38 (six months ago) link

Beastie Boys fandom tends to break down to a series of waves imo, ie which ever album of the classic run (Licensed to Ill to IC) you heard when you were like 16-18 was the one that pulled you in. So kids who were too young for PB or Check Your Head didn't get on the bus til IC etc. I'm old enough to have been sorta first wave (I won a 7" of Fight for Your Right/Paul Revere during a limbo contest at a bar mitzvah lol) and then heard PB in high shool (but no one else liked it) and then CYH came out my first year of college and was just like a real OH SHIT moment. IC was a victory lap, CYH is def familiar.

Οὖτις, Monday, 16 March 2020 14:44 (six months ago) link

CYH is def SUPERIOR I meant to say

Οὖτις, Monday, 16 March 2020 14:45 (six months ago) link

CYH and IC have almost as many desultory jams and half-assed funk experiments. I'd say they cancel each other out.

I'd rather listen to Hello Nasty than either of them.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:46 (six months ago) link

I remember being sorta disappointed with Ill Communication when it came out, was hoping for another left turn and it seemed kind of safe, same recipe but not nearly as exuberant and w/ none of CYH's track-to-track flow

CYH is all-time

Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:51 (six months ago) link

That's basically how I saw it, Check Your Head redux

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:53 (six months ago) link

(I won a 7" of Fight for Your Right/Paul Revere during a limbo contest at a bar mitzvah lol)

super lol.

☮️ (peace, man), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:53 (six months ago) link

I used to have a dubbed cassette with License to Ill on on side and Invisible Touch on the other.

I rarely play any of them these days, but if I did I would reach for them in chronological order: License first, Boutique second, maybe if very very seldom (functionally never) CYH and Communication next, never for of the rest of them. I think when this thread revived recently I gave Hello Nasty another shot, but I lost interest pretty quickly.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 March 2020 14:57 (six months ago) link

And yeah, I never really liked Ill Communication that much, despite being heavily into Check Your Head. These days I mostly listen to In Sound From Way Out.

☮️ (peace, man), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:58 (six months ago) link

CYH is the fun dress-rehearsal, IC is the slightly more slick performance. I like both about equally.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:00 (six months ago) link

CYH has a ton of great deep cuts, always loved "Live at PJs"

frogbs, Monday, 16 March 2020 15:03 (six months ago) link

live at PJ's might be apex beasties

Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:04 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

A mix that Cut Chemist did to accompany the Beastie Boys Book touring exhibition, name-your-price on Bandcamp.

donald failson (sic), Sunday, 19 April 2020 23:18 (five months ago) link

I'm only seeing the option to get it if I subscribe to his bandcamp releases

mh, Monday, 20 April 2020 15:49 (five months ago) link

Is the documentary tonight?

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 20 April 2020 17:20 (five months ago) link

I'm only seeing the option to get it if I subscribe to his bandcamp releases

you snozzed and lost I guess :(

donald failson (sic), Monday, 20 April 2020 18:22 (five months ago) link

I guess so!

documentary is the 24th, I believe

mh, Monday, 20 April 2020 18:27 (five months ago) link

Yeah, 24th. But according to Pitchfork it's "no fun" and as subversive as a "bowl of soup" so I guess I can skip it. Kidding aside, genuinely curious if it's that bad or this is Pitchfork killing the two gen X idols (Beastie Boys and Spike Jonze) with one stone thing.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 April 2020 18:37 (five months ago) link

not sure how much stock i put 2020 pfork's judgments of 'fun' or 'subversive'

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 20 April 2020 18:40 (five months ago) link

Was it Sam Pitchfork or Emily Pitchfork who said that?

donald failson (sic), Monday, 20 April 2020 19:10 (five months ago) link

Hope it streams somewhere other than Apple TV eventually

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 20 April 2020 19:18 (five months ago) link

^^ yeah. I'm not signing up for another streaming service I won't watch otherwise.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 April 2020 19:19 (five months ago) link

just wait until someone you know buys an apple device and scam their account login

mh, Monday, 20 April 2020 19:22 (five months ago) link

You gotta fight for your right, etc., etc.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 20 April 2020 20:07 (five months ago) link

The doc was ok I guess. Was hoping for more insight into their music making process.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 24 April 2020 16:16 (five months ago) link

they cover more of the music stuff in the book; i think they cherry picked what they thought would be more entertaining for a general audience?

i loved it

but i am at the point where i dont require anything from them, i just love seeing them talk & i love how much they still love each other & throw jabs and funny looks at each other & make each other laugh

that Yauch/Aerosmith story will never not be hilarious

i legit bawled over Adam’s talking about the last gig <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 April 2020 17:38 (five months ago) link

he looked like he was about to break down toward the end

mh, Friday, 24 April 2020 18:37 (five months ago) link

yeah def

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 April 2020 19:17 (five months ago) link

reading the book now
really great

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 April 2020 19:54 (five months ago) link

The audiobook is so good—I didn't see the actual book until after I listened, and glad I didn't

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 24 April 2020 22:32 (five months ago) link

The book is really fun, even the captions & footnotes are great - and Roy Choi has a special segment of Beasties inspired recipes which is v cool

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 24 April 2020 23:20 (five months ago) link

I agree, it’s cool looking and inventively laid out but I really dug all the contributors reading their own words and it just cohered really well... I was surprised when I saw the book how scrapbooky it was (not a bad thing)

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 25 April 2020 00:46 (five months ago) link

they did a live AMA on reddit last night & it is a total mess & not exactly illuminating but still <3

technical snafus trying to facetime with jonah hill was like watching Dads use tech was so funny to me

but them facetiming w ~Biz Markie~ is 100% worth the whole thing

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 April 2020 09:04 (five months ago) link

link here, it’s about an hour


https://youtu.be/CQh-F7sCoTo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 April 2020 09:10 (five months ago) link

Oh god, fuck bringing Jonah Hill into this.

My friend had the book on her coffee table and I spent a good two hours or so going through it. Maybe rudely.

circa1916, Saturday, 25 April 2020 10:00 (five months ago) link

ooh, thanks Veg

Enjoyed the doc, but unscripted Beastie content is always welcome. I’m a few minutes in and Mike has already started laughing so hard he’s fallen off camera. Excellent

mh, Saturday, 25 April 2020 13:25 (five months ago) link

oh god at Biz Markie calling them back and hollering about being called at 11pm

mh, Saturday, 25 April 2020 13:48 (five months ago) link

the best

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 April 2020 16:43 (five months ago) link

I've got the book and have been meaning to dig in soon, is it worth holding off on the doc, and reading the book first? Thanks loves.

piscesx, Saturday, 25 April 2020 21:57 (five months ago) link

i think so

book is a legit wealth of riches - doc kinda skims the cream, as it were

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 April 2020 22:10 (five months ago) link

Makes sense yeah, thanks!

piscesx, Sunday, 26 April 2020 15:35 (five months ago) link

it’s no biggie to watch the doc first though - honestly it’s a good advertisement for the book & is a good way to make you wanna read more

win win either way

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 26 April 2020 15:41 (five months ago) link

I don't feel like any band ever truly copped to being shitheads and pigs as sincerely as the Beastie Boys. really loved that Kate Schellenbach got a chapter to tell the story of her being kicked out of the band, and call Rick Rubin an asshole

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 26 April 2020 15:44 (five months ago) link

otm

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 26 April 2020 17:37 (five months ago) link


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