Since its East Coast inception and up to its recent blinged-out downfall, hip-hop has always been an exhilarating form of tourism for privileged young Americans, a journey into that shit-stained part of the country that always seems so near and yet so far. Bitch, you shoulda put a sock on the pickle, Ice Cube rapped firmly as he educated two guys in a Saab about the correct uses of birth control in a tone no Oberlin woman would ever tolerate. And your pussy wouldn't be blowing smoke signals. Uh, yes, I'll take that with fries.
seriously how can someone even print this -- even a magazine by and for old white men
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I stopped seriously listening to music when Ice Cube began appearing in the Friday movies
its recent blinged-out downfall
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link
ban novelists
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link
"Since its East Coast inceptionand up to its recent blinged-out downfallhip-hop has always been an exhilarating form of tourism for privileged young Americans, a journey into that shit-stained part of the country that always seems so near and yet so far. Bitch, you shoulda put a sock on the pickle,Ice Cube rapped firmly as he educated two guys in a Saab bout the correct uses of birth control in a tone no Oberlin woman would ever tolerateAnd your pussy wouldn't be blowing smoke signals. Uh, yes, I'll take that with fries."
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― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link
a tone no Oberlin woman would ever tolerate
amazing
― pass le corbusier (s1ocki), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link
like many men and women stumbling headlong into middle age, I just stopped giving a shit about music.
Despite her ubiquity on every iPhone in Williamsburg, there's clearly still some brand-building ahead for Maya and her label.
a highly valuable opinion
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda wish people would just stop writing about williamsburg, like, forever.
― pass le corbusier (s1ocki), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Six hours later, she approaches my table with a just-got-out-of-bed look, resembling one of the sloe-eyed Israeli girls who sleepily haunted my Hebrew school.
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:29 (thirteen years ago) link
ok i'm down with that
― pass le corbusier (s1ocki), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess you have to be really good at writing in one genre to be allowed to write so flagrantly bad in another
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link
lol Alfred
― an artist-mutant going beyond gender (The Reverend), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Ice Cube seemed like he came from a world where the apocalypse had already wiped clean any vestige of hope—an exciting, existentialist posture for a 20-year-old cracker still unsure of how to play the opposite sex.
theres always something corny when white writers self-referentially refer to themselves as crackers -- like, its referencing quoting black dudes talking about white ppl so why is it quoting what maybe a black panther would have said in '68?? just weirdly outdated -- but other than that this sentence is alright
the others i dunno
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link
this gets much better once he stops talking about himself & what he did with MIA during the interview
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
ha, diplo stole a line directly from gucci mane for this album, apparently -- i wonder if he'll get a songwriting credit
But if there's another "Paper Planes" on this album, it's "Tell Me Why," a Diplo-produced ditty that has probably the most instant catchphrase—Start throwing your hands up like you're mad at the ceiling!—since André 3000 told us to shake it like a Polaroid picture.
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
i wonder how this guy would feel if he found out that the best line on maya's album is stolen from the current bastion of rap's blinged out downfall
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link
devastated probably
― pass le corbusier (s1ocki), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
understandably so
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
oh lord
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
that shit is hilarious to me -- how perfect
I haven't read the piece yet but I would like to generally recommend modern fiction and literature, which I think is really good, probably better than Drake
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:40 (thirteen years ago) link
haha the rare but pointed nabisco zing
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i stick to non fiction
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
*non phixion
― max, Friday, 25 June 2010 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, it's not too pointed, most just kidding.
I do understand and share some of the annoyances of when not-music people get assigned big music features. I think ILM also has plenty of conversations that lit people would find every bit as weird or embarrassing in the other direction, although of course I don't know that many ILM posters would be willing to tackle a magazine feature about a novelist, so it's kind of a different standard.
but there are a couple things here about dude's prose that are a bit like ... they might be different coming from someone who was more steeped in fiction/lit/magazine-writing than music writing? I don't mean that in a snotty way, it's just both things have norms and insides.
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 25 June 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link
liked this profile, psyched for his new book
― just sayin, Friday, 25 June 2010 07:36 (thirteen years ago) link
the new book is really sharp and funny, I'd say much better than the first two
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
modern fiction can blow me
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't read one goddamn new book I've liked in forever
i also hate mobile phones and all this crap on tv
― plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link
felt like this for years tbh. modern fiction blows. except for Victor Pelevin.
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe it's not the books
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
but it is
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
name one book, I bet I can type that it sucks in this little box here and believe it
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i am sure you could
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
what's the last piece of fiction you've read
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
not to derail this thread entirely but my problem with modern lit is that so many authors are content to just stay within these narrow confines of traditional novel narrative structures - here's a narrator, plot goes from A to B to C, the end. *yawn*
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
okay name a book you hate and i will try to come up with a book you will like by the principle of opposition
― horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
k hold on I am thinking
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
this is an argument for a diff't thread/board tho...
re: Horseshoe. oh let's see, Zadie Smith's "White Teeth"
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
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omggggggggggggggggggggg shut upppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
― max, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
alternately we could all drive the the nearest pencil up our respective noses.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah maybe we shouldn't do this here.
i haven't read white teeth but i will try to think of a book that's v different from on beauty. this might not work, i'm thinking.
― horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
honestly I just want ppl to rec. good new books so I can read them and then ignore their posts forever if I don't like them and enjoy good books if I do like the book
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
what can I say, in this day and age I don't see the point in writing a novel that adheres to a format developed in the 19th century
xp
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
g-gonna slowly distance myself from shakey mo here
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
can i just say that i would be totally happy to only ever read novels that adhere to a nineteenth century format?
having said that, most of the modern fiction i read does not. i mean, it is still stories about people for the most part, but apart from that...
― horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
seriously let's take this to another thread
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
reading people with an avowed disinterest in modern fiction trying to diagnose its supposed problems is much, much more interesting from a rubbernecker's perspective than the latest round of stale zings about m.i.a.'s inconsistent politics and non-music crits tackling band profiles.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
do you hate songs too, shakey? such a played-out format.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Shteyngart vs. this: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/kill-me-now/Content?oid=4319529
― Mexico, camp, horns, Zappa, Mr. Bungle (Matos W.K.), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link