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Watching Top of the Pops last Friday, i realised that i quite like the new Ian Brown single. and then i realised that i can't remember having actually disliked any of his solo records, which came as quite a surprise really.

he doesn't really get that much good said about him, and i've always wondered who actually buys his records (britrock types i guess?). so, what do you have to say about ian brown solo?

gareth, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think that he has actually produced anything brilliant since he went solo. 'My Star' excepted.

Fantastic Live tho' great cover of 'Bille Jean'

bounder, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, you see the problem with Ian Brown solo is that the descriptions of his music sound quite wonderful: chaotic dub, mad lyrics about Jesus being a dolphin, stargazing electro-guitar pop. You just know it's not going to be one of those things and thus very probably it's just crap.

Omar, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ian Brown's solo career far surpasses the overblown overrated wide- eyed dribbling the Roses came up with, his first two albums were really good. Brown is the Robert Plant of the 00s with his sideways solo career.

dave q, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes yes, but he can't, like, sing. At all. At least w/ the Stone Roses you had a gd band backing him up.

Andrew L, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Good band? Well, he had a good DRUMMER. Losing Squire was removing a tumour.

dave q, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I've only heard the first solo album - dreadful, as expected. Thankfully I've managed to avoid the rest, except for a TV performance of something or other from 'Golden Greats' and a track called "Bubbles" from the new album. Both were embarrassing.

Dr. C, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw the same TotPs and instantly liked the song. Some one above said he can't sing but I think the more pertinent thing is that he obviously can't dance - what is it with that stepping from foot to foot : he looks like a slowed down Oi boy.

philT, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i quite like his solo records.'dolphins were monkeys' and 'set my baby free' are smashing songs. I think too many people are too focused on his persona .

marie, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Didn't The Stone Roses, with the exception of the fantastic Fools Gold, sound like a sixth-form Primal Scream (circa Sonic Flower Groove) tribute band? Ian Brown's solo career, so reverentially written up by so many journalists who should know better, has been one lazy, wibbly, cup-empty drool of inconsequence.

Sweetie, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

'Ian Brown's solo career, so reverentially written up by so many journalists who should know better, has been one lazy, wibbly, cup- empty drool of inconsequence.'

dave q, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually I always thought Fools' Gold was the worst track...

>Didn't The Stone Roses, with the exception of the fantastic Fools >Gold, sound like a sixth-form Primal Scream (circa Sonic Flower >Groove) tribute band?

graysonlane, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Whoops, the second half of my last post didn't make it in there for some mysterious reason. The half that went - "That's what makes it better than the Stone Roses career, which was a lazy, wibbling cup of CONSEQUENCE".

dave q, Tuesday, 2 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...

tasha, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I recently realised I like ian brown's solo ones. I do not and have never liked the stone roses.

I own none of his albums but I am considering 'Golden Greats' now because 'So Many Soldiers' sounds really good to me. and so do the other couple of tracks I've downloaded.

I like the 'F.E.A.R.' one, too.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Golden Greats is a great record. 'gettin high' is four even minutes of blustery freshness, excepting the intro which was a terrible idea even as a joke. 'love like a fountain' and 'dolphins were monkeys' are great as well, they seem more like what you'd imagine the stone roses sound like from their bios, interesting mix of pop form with the kind of beats that used to get the word 'dance' thrown at them in the mid-90s because they were too middle of the road to be described as anything else, when all is thrown together you get classic. it kind of blows my mind that ILM would praise Junior Senior for their Fun Qualities when this stuff gets overlooked. ok, actually it doesn't.

oh, and search 'corpses in her mouth', which is not on Golden Greats, and i don't know where it's from, but it's amazing. if only all chill-out music sounded like this.

Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 02:16 (seventeen years ago) link

search "lions"
the single greatest song in the history of music

robin (robin), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 03:21 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm impressed with the way he's managed to combine a solo career with being reserve goalie for first Man United and now West Ham.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Corpses In Their Mouths is on his first record Unfinished Monkey Business, and Dave is right - song is absolute genius. Brown though is a bit hit and miss, for every 'Set My Baby Free' there's always a 'Babasonicos'. When he's on point, Brown is capable of putting together some beautiful beats and melodies (though he is a bit to keen to endlessly repeat these) but he's also guilty of some crashingly dreadful creative decisions; beats that don't fit, vocal lines that don't work, lyrics that scrape the bottom of the cliché barrel.

Alex K (Alex K), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw him live last year and thought he was just superb, with a fervent following. I can't imagine ever buying any of his records, though.

Daniel (dancity), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 09:03 (seventeen years ago) link

"search "lions"
the single greatest song in the history of music"

robin, i sincerely hope this is a joke. i heard his first two albums, and they are chock-full of rubbish, but he is a really good singles artist. "corpses", "my star", "dolphins were monkeys", "FEAR" : not bad at all. he's better than john squire solo, but then, who isn't?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 22:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i promise you killian,listen to lions at full volume at the end of the night,it puts gilgamesh and gone with the wind to shame and claims its place as the greatest epic in the history of the human race

robin (robin), Thursday, 15 May 2003 03:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i should point out,to be fair,that i have neither seen gone with the wind nor read gilgamesh,which may explain why my spelling of the latter is phonetic...

robin (robin), Thursday, 15 May 2003 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...



1. The World Is Yours
2. On Track
3. Sister Rose
4. Save Us
5. The Eternal Flame
6. The Feeding Of The 5000
7. Street Children (Pity The Child)
8. Some Folks Are Hollow (feat. Sinead O'Connor)
9. Goodbye To The Broken
10. Me and You Forever
11. Illegal Attacks (feat. Sinead O'Connor)
12. The World Is Yours (Reprise)

Ian Brown releases his new album 'The World Is Yours' on 24th September. His fifth solo record, this is a record he intended would "bury everything else I’ve ever done", and it’s hard to argue with the man. It’s an inspired creation – musically it’s awesome, lyrically it is personal, compassionate and defiant.

First single 'Illegal Attacks', released September 17th, is a tour de force. An in-your-face pop song like you’ve never heard before. Sinéad O'Connor and Brown duet, one of O’Connor’s two appearances on the record. It is a heady, powerful duet with stabbing double-bass and harp, sung with the kind of conviction that makes the hairs on your neck stand up.

Brown collaborated with two sets of producers – Black Ops and Emile - and recorded the album at various studios in London with Brown travelling to Windmill Lane studios in Ireland to record 'Illegal Attacks' and 'Some Folks Are Hollow' with O’Connor. Andy Rourke Ex-Smiths and Ex-Happy Mondays/Big Arm’ Paul Ryder contribute on bass. Steve Jones Ex-Sex Pistols appears on guitar on two tracks ('Sister Rose' and 'Me and You Forever') and Paul Cook (also Ex-Sex Pistols) appears on drums on the same tracks 'Sister Rose' and 'Me And You Forever' . The stunning string arrangements are the work of one Simon Hale.

'On Track', previously appeared as an instrumental on the soundtrack to Russian film Paragraph 78, but here takes on full song-form.

With a huge UK tour kicking off at the end of September, Ian Brown is back to entertain and inspire. The World is Yours is honest, direct, tender in parts and full of hope, acknowledging the fragile nature of the world, it makes you feel lucky to be alive.

Bee OK, Friday, 3 August 2007 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I am wondering whether to go to a concert.

PJ Miller, Friday, 3 August 2007 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I love the man dearly but he is dreadful live, no? I'd probably go if I could though, but there's that whole ocean I'd have to cross.

musically, Friday, 3 August 2007 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

The World is Yours is honest, direct, tender in parts and full of hope, acknowledging the fragile nature of the world, and features a tune on track 5.


Noodle Vague, Friday, 3 August 2007 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I see what you did there!

musically, Friday, 3 August 2007 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

insipid album/song-titles a dead giveaway. plz 2 join richard ashcroft in used-bin hell.

Just got offed, Friday, 3 August 2007 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

He's horribly out-of-tune live. I mean HORRIBLY. And ever since I saw him kick the head in of some bouncer who tried to protect him at the infamous SF show, well, he just hasn't been the same for me.

Richard Wood Johnson, Friday, 3 August 2007 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Were you actually at the show? I remember reading a review of that particular show a few years back and I thought it had to have been ghost-written by John Squire. Just a complete fiasco (the show, not the article).

musically, Friday, 3 August 2007 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I was there, yes. It was truly one of the most surreal experiences of my life.

Richard Wood Johnson, Saturday, 4 August 2007 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link

and disturbing. and one of the few situations where I felt truly helpless.

Richard Wood Johnson, Saturday, 4 August 2007 01:52 (thirteen years ago) link

What is it about San Francisco that brings out the worst in visiting British musicians?

There's a clip of Ian's new song on his MySpace. It starts off sounding like a Volkswagen commercial. Nice, though.

musically, Monday, 13 August 2007 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

lol politics

StanM, Monday, 13 August 2007 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Finally, after years of searching, I’ve found it: the worst album ever made. Quite the most fascinating thing about the former Stone Roses front man’s new record is wondering what his “people” – producer, A&R man, label boss, manager, mates – said to the singer after listening to the entirely unchanging sonic palette of processed beats, by-numbers string arrangements, clunky, lame, lazy, schoolboy-rhyming platitudes and polemic (“Life’s no simple situation/There’s the added complication/That the reason we’re all here, nobody knows/In all creation”), and Brown’s barely-there vocals. Did they go, “Nice one, son”, “Good old Browny, he’s done it again”? And if so, why, how – when the rest of us are laughing so loudly, we can scarcely hear the “songs”?


James Mitchell, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:28 (twelve years ago) link

"What I've heard of the album so far is brilliant! There is always an agenda when the London media snobs review somoene like Ian Brown's abum."

Raw Patrick, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:35 (twelve years ago) link

Ian Brown has a fine line in psycho fans, and unlike most there's the faintest possibility that one of them might actually come round and kick your head in for an unfavourable review.

Then again, I didn't think anyone other than his fanbase ever actually noticed new Ian Brown releases.

Matt DC, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

As I was just saying somehwere else, I can't work out if this article was taking the p*ss out of Brown, or if he was sending himself up, or what:


Jeff W, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

I have friends who might be counted amongst the "psycho fans" brigade were they not such meek, pleasant individuals. one of them met him (extremely enthusiastically) on the beach in brighton on friday night. and i have heard only good things about the new album so what that's all about i dunno.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 24 September 2007 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

His new album is very good. Very heavy on lush orchestration, which is the main thing that sets it apart from his previous material. There's an entire bonus disc of orchestral mixes, which I actually enjoyed a lot. Other than that, it's not a huge departure from his other material; a few great songs, more than a few cringeworthy lyrics, but overall very solid. "Illegal Attacks" is probably the worst thing on the album.

musically, Monday, 24 September 2007 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

I am thinking of getting this album. I like "Illegal Attacks".

PJ Miller, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

"Illegal Attacks" is stating the obvious at least four years too late.
The man is an arrogant, gormless twunt and the Stone Roses are the most overrated band ever.

max r, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

I'm kind of liking the new single, even if it's just a reconfiguration of every solo single he's ever released. What I'm struck with, though (probably because I haven't gone to the trouble of seeing an Ian Brown video in years and years), is how all the sudden he's a VERY OLD MAN.


Johnny Fever, Saturday, 12 September 2009 03:12 (eleven years ago) link


My Way is the sixth solo album by British artist Ian Brown. The album will be released on September 28, 2009. The album's lead single "Stellify" will be released on September 21, 2009.

My Way was inspired by Michael Jackson's Thriller with Brown noting that "we mastered it on the day that Michael Jackson died (too), so I'm taking that as a good omen."

1. Stellify
2. Crowning Of The Poor
3. Just Like You
4. In The Year 2525
5. Always Remember Me
6. Vanity Kills
7. For The Glory
8. Marathon Man
9. Own Brain
10. Laugh Now
11. By All Means Necessary
12. So High

Bee OK, Sunday, 13 September 2009 03:54 (eleven years ago) link


is he wearing a sweatshirt with a picture of himself on it?

what the hell does "stellify" mean?

is it possible to watch or listen to ian brown without feeling sort of bad for him?

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:07 (eleven years ago) link

Weird, I just was listening to him yesterday for the first time in awhile. "Corpses," "Set My Baby Free," and a few others really do hold up well. Oddly, the AMG review of "The World Is Yours" calls Golden Greats and Music of the Spheres post-Britpop masterpieces.

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 13 September 2009 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

what the hell does "stellify" mean?

When interstellar matter forms a star. How sciency!

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 13 September 2009 05:37 (eleven years ago) link

oh. i wondered if it had to do with intastella.

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 13 September 2009 05:56 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

so My Way has now leaked.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 01:02 (ten years ago) link

My Way was inspired by Michael Jackson's Thriller with Brown noting that "we mastered it on the day that Michael Jackson died (too), so I'm taking that as a good omen."

That's an optimistic way of looking at it, I guess.

Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 05:23 (ten years ago) link

so My Way has now leaked

Somebody should probably clean that up.

Oppositional Soup (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 07:38 (ten years ago) link

Awful, awful, awful.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 08:11 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Ex Stone Roses singer held for "wife assault"


Bee OK, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 01:31 (ten years ago) link

(Imagine a reply about Chris and Ian, two Browns beating up their girls, that somehow cannot be interpreted as racist here.)

StanM, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 07:50 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, well, he's married to a curvy Mexican woman, so beating up the flowers of indie rock womanhood looks decidedly dingy and drab to him I'd've thought.

Drag Me to Hull (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 10:34 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Bar stereo is playing 'Corpses in Their Mouths' forgot this existed

calstars, Friday, 6 July 2012 20:40 (eight years ago) link

i remember being really into that first record. partly because of how it felt, all handmade & fuzzy.

blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 6 July 2012 21:02 (eight years ago) link

i like the first couple of albums but not heard the rest

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 6 July 2012 21:03 (eight years ago) link

First album is verrrrry great. Shitty sound and inspired songs.

Been further downhill with ea one since then.

mr.raffles, Friday, 6 July 2012 22:03 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...


Competition time…

We have 3 vinyl test pressings of the previously unreleased tracks from the Collected boxset to give away. These are uber collectible and only 5 copies will ever exist anywhere in the world!!! To be in with a chance of winning simply like this post and tell us why you need one of these test pressings in your life!

Mark G, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:32 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...


"Because of my cheekbones, people think I'm a crack..."

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 14:34 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

Been enjoying Ian's twitter feed recently


— Ian Brown (@ianbrown) September 5, 2020


— Ian Brown (@ianbrown) September 12, 2020

So im a Conspiracy Theorist HA! a term invented by the lame stream media to discredit those who can smell and see through the government/media lies and propaganda #researchanddestroy

— Ian Brown (@ianbrown) September 14, 2020

The Public have lost all respect and credibility for your views!

Your music and cheekbones are a dream ❤️but your tweets are a nightmare 👍🏻

— JEDWARD (@planetjedward) September 14, 2020

这是我的显示名称 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 13:11 (one week ago) link

Jedward not otm I'm afraid, he's a disgustingly ugly + unsexy specimen and always has been, even with the cheekbones. Can't help lolling at his use of "lame stream media" though.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 13:41 (one week ago) link

is he using it differently than Sarah Palin did way back when tho?

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 13:51 (one week ago) link

whats happened to the font on this thread lol

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 13:52 (one week ago) link

sans serif fonts are the work of the illuminati

这是我的显示名称 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 13:54 (one week ago) link

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