Brian Eno - C or D?

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I went through the archives, and I don't see this one anywhere.

So, have at it.

James Morris (HorrayJames), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic because he was the 70s avant-garde. Classic for Another Green World and Before And After Science, classic for his collaboration in Bowie's Berlin trilogy, classic for his record label which released the likes of Gavin Bryars, classic for so many things.

Jonathan Z., Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

here come the warm jets is the best pop album made by anyone (as of today).

Phoebe Dinsmore, Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

yesterday i opened up the copy of here come the warm jets i had out of the library to find that in addition to the actual cd was a cdr copy of it. which was nice.

i remember the ambient stuff being way better than i expected, too, though i haven't heard it in a while.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Love 'another green world' and 'before and after science' (the last track on the latter was the last thing I heard that made me all warm and fuzzy inside). Like the ambient stuff.

Didn't care for 'heroes' from the one listen I gave it a couple of years ago.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Absolutely classic. Love his music (95% of it), love his productions (not just Talking Heads but also U2 and, damn it, James!), love his collaborations (with Bowie, John Cale, Harold Budd, Daniel Lanois...). Lately his ambient work has been a little bland but it's no less theory-based than some of the stuff in the '70s. His work with self-generating music may be more interesting than the results, but who knows what application it may have in a few years?

And I'm a sucker for the Wall of Eno vocals he adds to everything he works on. For a somewhat limited singer, he harmonizes with himself really well, from his one man band "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" to more recent stuff like "Someday" (that beautiful James song from the very underrated "Laid").

Anyone ever hear the NPR piece on "Once in a Lifetime," which details just what Eno brought to the track? He basically added the call and response chorus, worthy of the co-write credit. Eno also gets co-writer credit on "Heroes."

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic....if only for "Backwater" and "Needle in the Camel's Eye".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic. It's hard for me to get interested enough in the question to argue the point, because I kind of take it for granted. That doesn't mean everything he has touched has turned to gold, but here are some reasons I rate him highly:

1. Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) (the only solo Eno album I am enthusiastic about in its entirety), as well as individual tracks on some of his other albums (especially Before and After Science).

2. His touch as producer on what are often the best albums of the bands he's worked with: Remain in Light, Bowie, Devo (I forgot this--using allmusic as a cheat-sheet now), etc.

3. Collaborations with: Fripp (although I would say say that Fripp carries most of the weight there--but still, I think Eno's presence counts), Jon Hassel, etc.

Etc. because I have to go.

3.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

4. Even some of his theoretical musings are worthwhile, especially that talk on using the recording studio as an instrument.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Didn't he admit to drinking his own urine recently? The man's not well.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic, of course! "Julie with..." and "By This River" remain two of the prettiest songs I've ever heard.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Takign Tiger Mountain, Another Green World, Before and After Science, the synth climax on Virginia Plain, Remain in Light, Low, On Land and providing most of the redeeming features to make U2 a thousand times more bearable than every other vague anthem-monger are enough to qualify him as utter classic no matter how over-rated Warm Jets and Airports are and how crappy his solo output has been for about 20 years.

fcussen (Burger), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

He drank his own urine in the "A year with swollen index" (or whatever) book from 1995, he'd watched a film, had a bottle of wine and couldn't be bothered to move to take a leak, so peed in the empty wine bottle, then wondered what it tasted like. As you do. I seem to remember this was related to his tale of finding a way to piss in Duchamp's toilet, or something like that.

Of course, the man and the vast majority of his music, and his influence, is classic. Couldn't live without "Taking tiger mountain" or "Music for airports" amongst others. Those two boxed sets are two of the best investments I've ever made.

Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 22 January 2004 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

That Passengers album ain't so bad either. Of its time 'n' all but still...

fcussen (Burger), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Been enjoying the hell out of Eno/Cale Wrong Way Up recently. It's a little dated in that 80s-ish "Let's Incorporate African Pop into Western Pop" kind of way, but all the simple songs get to me.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic.
"The Big Ship" from Another Green World puts me in a trance. Don't drive to it.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Thursday, 22 January 2004 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Plus there's all that stuff I enjoyed a lot at one time, even if I'm not into it now, like My Life in the Bush of Ghosts.

Plus the Obscure Music series, which has some good titles.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 22 January 2004 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I think one of the reasons i like him so much is that I am a child of Napster and the incessant dilettantism and boundary-pushing is something I can realte to.

fcussen (Burger), Thursday, 22 January 2004 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic. Here Comes The Warm Jets is the REAL Alien rock. Fuck Ziggy.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

If for nothing else "Another Green World"

Its just so coool. Weird pop and ambienty bits floated against each other in the nicest way, and my four year old loves to sing "I'll come running" which has got to get him some points somewhere.

hector (hector), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

1972-1985 inclusive, everything he touched. including the interviews, many of which are up on enoweb, but I'd buy a book that compiled them.

then, suddenly, like a switch being thrown...

when 'wrong way up' came out an interview disc was distributed to radio, where he's sounding and dull, then at the end he begins talking about the recent birth of his daughter and how unimportant the theoretical side of music had become to him, and how now he just wanted to relax and play tunes. which makes me happy for eno the man, but keeping up with the last decade of releases has been a punishing experience.

'spinning away' from 'wrong way up', still excellent though

(Jon L), Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Unbelievable songwriter--I was in a one-off Eno cover band a couple of months ago, and we could not BELIEVE how much mileage he got out of incredibly simple structures. I mean, "The True Wheel"--that song has _four chords_ in it, and it sounds like the lushest deepest most complicated thing ever. "Third Uncle" has one.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 22 January 2004 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

already embarrassed about my grumbly post. if I ever say anything about the 90's output, it's only because the 72-85 stretch is so bafflingly inspired. if I ever lost my record collection I'd be buying most of these back first.

(Jon L), Thursday, 22 January 2004 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, "The True Wheel"--that song has _four chords_ in it, and it sounds like the lushest deepest most complicated thing ever.

"Uh-oh!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 January 2004 02:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Strange, I've just sung through "The true wheel" in my head and can only count three... oh, just got to the end part where the fourth chord comes in. Sorry. My God, what a song!

"Ding ding!"

Rob M (Rob M), Friday, 23 January 2004 08:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone that even cosiders sayind "dud" is loco. Amazing, influential, smartest man in music, etc. I want him to be my dad.

anode (anode), Friday, 23 January 2004 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...
One thing I don't think I've said about Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy is that I got a copy* around the time that I had just about lost my belief in Christian doctrine, so it took on kind of a heavy symbolic weight of the scarey, uncertain, world of religious disbelief. (Obviously I hadn't only listened to Christian music up until then. That's not the point.) I want to exmphasize, this is a symbolic purpose I was giving it: I don't think it has much to do with the album itself (although it is kind of interesting in light of some things I've read by him essential outlining an anti-fundamentalism--of whatever source--stance). Just the cover itself took on a certain weight, and I wasn't totally happy about it. It didn't look like an especially happy world (and I've never been unambivalently attracted to hipster jadedness, if I've ever been attracted by it at all), but it seemed somewhat inevitable that I would be joining it. Graphically, it was: the cover of Taking Tiger Mountain vs. the dull blue cover of Cornelius Van Til's Defense of the Faith (given to me by my brother-in-law). I think I was more visually oriented then. Anyway, book covers or album covers could easily become suffused with an emotional coloring.


*I can't remember if I bought a copy or received it as a gift, but probably the latter. I used to get my older brother to buy me "weird"** records for my birthday and Christmas.

**I think he thought it was weird anyway (judging by his response to what I listened to on the radio), but I think he was a little amused to watch me growing up and getting into punk and new wave, and new bands he hadn't heard of, or other stuff that seemed esoteric to him. I think he may have bought me this album, the first Psychedelic Furs album, and Fripp's Let the Power Fall, and some a John Coltrane collection, all at my request. Now I'm getting all sentimental about my older brother. I miss being close to my family, and it's all Brian Eno's fault--well, not exactly.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Inspired by o. nate, sort of.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Classic!

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link

that was a great post, rockist. thanks.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost Interesting story rockist. Still, Taking Tiger is Brian Eno at his worst/most/annoying (lyrically) to me. What about the lyrics hit home for you?

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

It wasn't the lyrics, it was more the entire package (literally). I don't have a functional copy of the album right now, so I haven't heard it for a while.

Possibly the fact that I often couldn't make out the lyrics or didn't know what he was talking about contributed to my liking the songs. "With Burgundy, Tizer and Rye/Twelve sheets of foolscap: don't ask me why." I'm still largely in the dark about these lines, for example. I think I only found out what foolscap is in the last few years and I've already forgotten the details.

I kind of like the lyrics to "True Wheel." I am looking at a lyrics page now, and I find myself saying, oh, is that how it goes? I really am not even hearing what he's saying a lot of the time.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

The lyrics are not the first thing I noticed about TTM(BS) either. I mean some of the lines (e.g., "burning airlines give you so much more") kind of stick in my mind, but I think that's more a function of being wedded to a good melody. I was in a bar where this guy I know works and he was playing songs from his iPod over the stereo. At one point I asked him, Is this the Thinking Fellers? And he said, no it's Brian Eno. Then later another song came on, and I asked him if it was the Swell Maps. Again it was Eno. It turns out both songs were on TTM(BS). That's when I knew I needed to hear the rest of the album.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link

wow, yeah, hearing eno (after soo much indie stuff) really is amazing (and it seems like he just pulled half of it out of his ass) xpost

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Classic, for all his instrumental music from the start to the end, and for 'A year With Swollen Appendices' (in my opinion anyway)

the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm curious: is there anyone reading this thread who's never listened to Eno? Anyone been inspired to after all the hosannas here?

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 04:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I really haven't heard enough !!

Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I find "Put A Straw Under Baby" hilarious (as a fallen catholic). Taking Tiger Mountain is the only of his solo/pop records I like. for his ambient work - Music For Airports, Discreet Music, and the Fripp/Eno ones are great.

sherm, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i have two eno records.

music for airports = nice but forgettable, put aside after a couple of listens.

apollo = stunningly beautiful, one of my most played albums in recent times.

with this in mind, what next?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I had only heard some of his ambient stuff up until a few months ago! (not couting roxy music!)

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post

try no pussyfooting, with fripp.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I rate his first 4 rock LPs classic. "Tiger Mountain" contains some of the best words I know. "Before and After Science" is very strong, esp. the "rhythm" side. As for the later stuff, I like "Nerve Net" and his collab with Cale "One Way Up." Not such a big fan of a lot of his ambient music, fine as it is. I'd put "Green World" and his Jon Hassell collab from '80 at the top of the list myself. Reading his diary I do get the impression he's a pretentious little guy, but he's done a lot so I suppose he earned it.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Classic, for most of the reasons already stated. If you're interested, there is an excellent, but long, article by Lester Bangs on Eno. You can read it here:

http://www.furious.com/perfect/bangseno.html

erv (Abe Froman), Wednesday, 21 July 2004 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

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a musical genius, the godfather of Ambient, the mastermind of warm synthesis, although the cause of a lot of shit (ie damp snares in 80s music from Low) still one of the true heads!

A let me emphasize his Ambient series - i don't understand why anyone hasn't yet. On Land, man! and lets not mention the second side of Day of Radiance with Laraaji (the first side i admit being...well). Most of my feelings on Before and After Science, Another Green World have meen mentioned.

And on a last note, My Life in the Bush of Ghosts is fucking ingenius record :)

Rob McD (Rob McD), Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

1st three solo albums are indespencable, punch your mom in the throat and steal money from her purse to buy these records, you need them. solo album #4 before and after sicence was an over considered creative disaster and not worth your hard earned record money, this record was why he stopped making rock records. after this you need anything he did with Harold Budd, you need Low by David Bowie, Oh Jesus Christ do you need Low by David Bowie, rob a bank get Low by David Bowie, pilfer from the sunday collection plate, knock over an old lady, buy a copy of Low by David Bowie, assasinate George W for Al Queda bounty money, decapitate a government contractor... whatever you need to do, get a copy of Low by David Bowie, you need Ambient 4: On Land, and Apollo, AM2 Plateau of Mirrors. Buy copies of Brian Eno and the vertical color of sound by Eric Tamm, and A Year With Swollen Appendices by Brian Eno, as these books will make your life infinitely more mysterious and interesting and delicious. Do what you need to do, I cannot force your hand, but seriously get the books, you will thank me later.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:24 (fourteen years ago) link

christ, I drink a bunch of alcohol and then a bunch of coffee, and all of a sudden I cannot spell.

seriously, listen to the title track from Taking Tiger Mountain or the first track on Warm Jets and get back to me, you will be a convert y0.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:27 (fourteen years ago) link

You know what else I think? I think Kate Bush's The Dreaming bears a strange resemblance to Taking Tiger Mountain, thematically (all the secret agent drama, the Asian references). The lyrics aren't goofy the same way as Eno's, and the albums certainly don't sound the same, but the imaginary scenarios seem a bit similar (even if Eno's are more indeterminate).

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I think I like The Dreaming again. I like almost everything at the moment. My brain may be overheated.

My neighbors must wonder what's up when they walk by my apartment door and hear me playing music with English lyrics.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't understand how anyone could be so hostile toward before and after science. I don't much like the first couple songs but c'mon, the second side is beautiful. julie with? by this river? these are undeniable!

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

absolutely, anthony. the second side of before + after science is the music i'd like to hear in my dreams.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 22 July 2004 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost Give the Music for Films comps another shot, then. They're more bite sized compositions, and have a lot in common with the ambient nuggets on AGW and BaAS.

It's interesting to me that generative or random music can resemble repetition. I mean, I still know exactly what you mean! That's why I always preferred stuff like Reich's Music for 18 Musicians, which is less conceptual and a lot more formalized. It's definitely repetitive, but when it shifts the movements can be quite dramatic. But I always find for that reason that it makes inferior background music, and sitting still listening to all the stuff shifting around for 45 minutes is hypnotic and beautiful but more of a commitment.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 August 2018 12:23 (ten months ago) link

Yes, Steve Reich definitely doesn't work as background music!

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 August 2018 12:25 (ten months ago) link

I love the "Music for Films" album. Quite short, composed, impressionist pieces. I especially like the fact that those films which are described in the booklet do not exist. That makes the whole project even more charming.

I pretty much like Steve Reich's "Drumming". To spot those micro-shfts demands attentive listening and there is indeed a hypnotic quality. Compared to DM it is more physical, maybe another reason I prefer it. What I do not like at all is the combination of ambient non-rhythmic music with too much repetition. Repetition in rhythm if it is not perfect like in computer beats is fine with me.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 25 August 2018 12:47 (ten months ago) link

What you need is some Autechre!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 August 2018 13:17 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

https://humanizingthevacuum.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/maxresdefault.jpg?w=1280&h=720

what is this suitcase keyboard and how do i get one

Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:22 (nine months ago) link

That's an EMS Synthi AKS, there's one on Ebay for about £16k right now.

MaresNest, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:29 (nine months ago) link

It's a VCS-3, aka a Putney. You can get kits to build one, or pay a lot on the secondary market for a real one.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:30 (nine months ago) link

The Putney is the earlier non-suitcase model, the one he's playing on that famous Virginia Plain footage with the feather boa.

koogs, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:55 (nine months ago) link

There’s an app. Eno would probably suggest that’s good enough.

dan selzer, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:56 (nine months ago) link

There’s an app. Eno would probably suggest that’s good enough.

dan selzer, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:56 (nine months ago) link

There’s an app. Eno would probably suggest that’s good enough.

dan selzer, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:56 (nine months ago) link

I really like Another Day on Earth. I agree with your placing, but it's the one your list has made me want to dig out (it's not on Spotify, oddly).

Randomly, I once had a malarone-induced fever/dream, in a hut in Senegal, and Another Green World was my salve.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:02 (nine months ago) link

The iPad/iPhone VCS3 app is really really good, I would hazard that it is in fact good enough

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:12 (nine months ago) link

There was a period when John McEntire was using a Putney with everything/everyone: Tortoise, Sea and Cake, Eleventh Dream Day. Rarely added more than just some buzzing and humming, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:13 (nine months ago) link

It’s a fascinating and perverse system - it leads you crazy places but I’m nowhere near smart enough to go into it with a path idea and come out with something resembling my intention.

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:18 (nine months ago) link

^that sounds like something eno would embrace

Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:19 (nine months ago) link

McEntire bought his Putney from Oberlin. Stupid conservatory thought they didn’t need it.

dan selzer, Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:20 (nine months ago) link

xpost for sure! I guess that and the impossibly abstruse architecture of the DX7 are the two environments he most dug

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:24 (nine months ago) link

I agree on your ranking, Alfred. The sheer explosion of creativity on the first album still leaves me speechless. Rarely has a pop album been so exciting. I think the only one which can compete in terms of going in so many different directions is the first Roxy Music album.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:39 (nine months ago) link

I prefer taking tiger mountain to here come the warm jets.

dan selzer, Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:44 (nine months ago) link

xps to Dan - wow!

sleeve, Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:50 (nine months ago) link

They had another one. But then they sold a huge moog modular after I left. They kept the buchla.

dan selzer, Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:00 (nine months ago) link

My friend Phil put a deposit of £200 down on an AKS with EMS themselves in May 1994 and he's just taken possession of it last week!

MaresNest, Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:02 (nine months ago) link

Eno was famously detail oriented when it came to figuring those synths out. He was one of the few to master the DX7.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:02 (nine months ago) link

Xxps on reflection...

Green World
Science
Day on Earth
Tiger
Warm Jets
Wrong Way Up

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:14 (nine months ago) link

Ambient with Budd - ON LAND - its great mysteru

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:21 (nine months ago) link

I can get with Alfred's ranking. But what about Nerve Net and Squelchy Life?

akm, Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:45 (nine months ago) link

(fwiw I'd put Squelchy above Wrong Way Up and Nerve Net below it)

akm, Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:45 (nine months ago) link

sorry not WWU, I meant Another Day on Earth

akm, Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:45 (nine months ago) link

excellent list (though my personal fave is before and after science)

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:50 (nine months ago) link

I can get with Alfred's ranking. But what about Nerve Net and Squelchy Life?

― akm, Thursday, October 4, 2018

NN has vocals of a sort, but I don't rate it. I remember the excitement of buying the "Ali Click" CD single, though!

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:51 (nine months ago) link

that "Long Trance" remix of Ali Click is soooo good

sleeve, Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:54 (nine months ago) link

“Spider and I” has the we’ve-reached-the-summit quiet exhilaration that the title track to Taking Tiger Mountain fails to evoke

truest of truths, highest of highs

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 October 2018 13:48 (nine months ago) link

i love "my squelchy life" (and am glad it's now finally been officially released in its entirety) - i don't know if i'd put it over any of the Big Four but it's not far behind! in fact i'm just gonna listen to "the harness" again

dub pilates (rushomancy), Saturday, 6 October 2018 00:28 (nine months ago) link

five months pass...

brian eno's first teacher at art school:

“On our second day there, our first drawing exercise was to make a visual comparison between a venetian blind and a hot water tap. It was meant to be in terms of how they functioned, not in terms of how they looked. And this boggled everyone.

“And then the first main project was that the students were put in pairs, and each pair of students had to invent a game, the function of which was to make some kind of psychological behavioral evaluation of people who played it. So they weren’t necessarily competitive games, they were games that involved making a decision rather than a number of others, and then extrapolating things about people’s personalities on the basis of those decisions. I think there were thirty students altogether, so there were fifteen games made. They varied through all sorts of things: mine was a kind of board game, others were whole rooms that you went through and did various things in. Anyway, all the students went through this, and consequently each student ended up with fifteen so-called character profiles. From those character profiles you had to make what was called a Mind Map, which was a kind of diagrammatic scheme of how you tended to behave in lots of different situations, and then the next part of the project was that you had to then assume a character who was as far as possible opposite to that one, and that was who you were to be for the rest of the semester, which was like eight more weeks. This was very, very interesting.

“And then we were put into groups of five on the basis of these new assumed characters. The meekest person would be like the group policymaker, and the one who tended to talk most would be who got to do all the dirty work, like buying things from the shops. He would be the dogsbody; that was my job, actually. And so you had people working with characters who were quite alien to them.

“And each group of five had another project that was a very complicated one that I can’t explain, but we had to make the projects using those characters.

“There were some funny things (that) happened. There was one girl who was very timid, so part of her Mind Map stipulated that she had to walk this tightrope in front of the whole group every morning. This was her own stipulation, you know, these things weren’t imposed; having designed your own Mind Map you then worked out a number of behavior patterns that you carried out.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/how-people-li-1/

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 23:05 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

curious about this:

As part of the Warp Records takeover on NTS Radio, Brian Eno has teamed up with Extinction Rebellion to create an hour long piece which will be broadcast on Sunday June 23rd at 16.00 BST - https://nts.live/wxaxrxp

Ambient Police (sleeve), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:01 (three weeks ago) link

I’m not sure if it’s fair to describe an invited guest DJ sesh as a “takeover”

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:08 (three weeks ago) link

But that sounds cool!

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:09 (three weeks ago) link

I’m not sure if it’s fair to describe an invited guest DJ sesh as a “takeover”

I went to Warp’s takeover of the Tate Modern in 2013 and that only went for about four hours. this is a little more substantial

over 100 hours of “exclusive mixes, live sessions, videos, unreleased material, new compositions and experimental free-form radio,”

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:22 (three weeks ago) link

warp will not let up until NTS issues an unconditional surrender

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:51 (three weeks ago) link

Eno will one day be totally simulated on a crystal computer

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:37 (three weeks ago) link

Ha, like this won't be a generative performance.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:57 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKiXwtIFMKY

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 03:06 (six days ago) link

I'll see that (hilarious) video and raise you this: https://www.facebook.com/danergy/videos/10156118856420745/

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:21 (six days ago) link

22 months old when that video was shot.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:22 (six days ago) link

here's a more recent one, Eno makes a brief mention:

https://www.facebook.com/danergy/videos/10156478785910745/

2 and 4 months.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:24 (six days ago) link

Excellent work, Dan. The indoctrination appears complete.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 12 July 2019 14:23 (four days ago) link

lol what a great age!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 July 2019 16:58 (four days ago) link


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