PYLON! C or D?

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I've been listening to Hits a lot. At first I was mainly just digging the post-punk dance sound, but now the lyrics are coming to the forefront when I listen - this stuff just sounds better and better every time I hear it. Should I bother with the full-lengths or do I have the majority of the winners? Anybody have any Pylon stories? I'm curious about these folks.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link

xgau called them "art-DOR." I want more art-DOR!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Saw them open for the Wonder Stuff once. And they played a whole set. Much to the chagrin of both the `Stuff and the crowd. There was almost a riot as a result. Fuck Pylon.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic, Gang of 4 fans need to get this, haven't heard the albums either tho.

sucka (sucka), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Imagine a testicularly-challenged Gang of Four with Flo from "Alice" on vocals.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Although I will say that "Crazy" is a decent song......REM's version of it ain't bad (available on Dead Letter Office)

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey, the only reason I'd ever go to see a Wonder Stuff gig is if Pylon was opening.

mike a, Sunday, 18 January 2004 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, i was about to say!

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 18 January 2004 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link

The REMade version of "Crazy" is the only Pylon stuff I've ever heard.
I recall somewhere on ILM somebody once suggested that REM's versh ain't shit compared to the 'riginal. Are they that different? How?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 18 January 2004 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

The beat is tighter and Pylon's singer's voice is way more animated and feral.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 18 January 2004 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Their single from way back "Cool" is great. I saw 'em open for Gang of 4 in the early '80s (and for U2 also). Real nice people. I don't have any good stories though. Even if you don't like the singer's voice, the instrumentation made it worth it--jagged postpunk guitar.

I haven't listened to it in a long while but I'm sure Pylon's original version of "Crazy" had more of an edge to it than REM's.

I was just glancing at an interview with Roger from Mission of Burma and he said his peers that he liked back circa '82 were Gang of 4 and Pylon.

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Sunday, 18 January 2004 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah "cool" is great!

burma played a few shows with pylon back in the day (and gang of four)

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 18 January 2004 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Ok so who would be next on this list: Gang Of Four, Mission Of Burma, Pylon, ____, _____, _____?

I wanna know if some great post-punk group just flew under my radar.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 18 January 2004 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't say the Wonder Stuff.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 18 January 2004 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

The Wonder Stuff and Pylon had no business being on a bill together. It was the venue's fault, neither of the bands'. I was actually a bit harsh on Pylon, to be honest. While I'm a passive fan at best, they definetely had their own sound.

After Gang of Four, Mission of Burma and Pylon (whom I'd leave out, truthfully), I'd suggest THE POP GROUP, Public Image Ltd. and --- WAIT FOR IT -- early Killiing Joke (up through Revelations).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 January 2004 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I still haven't heard the Pop Group yet. I really should.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 January 2004 00:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Both albums are good but i like the 2nd one called "Chomp" best.Not available on cd though.Most of the first album is on hits anyway.Like most post punk sounds best in controlled doses.For a good comp of post punk stuff check out Rough Trade post punk Vol. 1.

evan chronister (evan chronister), Monday, 19 January 2004 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link

after G04, Burma and Pylon I always think of Magazine and PIL.

LiquidTide (LiquidTide), Monday, 19 January 2004 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Ok so who would be next on this list: Gang Of Four, Mission Of Burma, Pylon, ____, _____, _____?

Magazine and PIL are too dull/somber/grey I'm not on that Joy Division shit. Some PIL songs I've heard are great though.

Maybe these are too obvious, but: I'd go The Embarrasment, ESG, and The Feelies - all from the US. All three of these I prefer to Pylon. I really like The Embarrasment because the world (ie me) needs nerdy midwestern post-punk.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Monday, 19 January 2004 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link

me too, actually! My downstairs neighbor has that Embarassment comp. I should pick it up (he may well have some ESG and Pop Group too, I've already got all the Feelies albums).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 January 2004 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Pylon definitely played some weird gigs, especially after reforming in the late '80s. Bands they opened for included Bullet Lavolta and Lucinda Williams.

Ah, for an Embarrassment/Pylon/Feelies/ESG reunion bill. At least I've seen the Feelies.

mike a, Monday, 19 January 2004 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link

They opened for R.E.M. a few times during their Green World Tour. I don't imagine that could've gone over so well.

may pang (maypang), Monday, 19 January 2004 03:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, classic! Hits has aged quite well, especially considering some of those songs are 25 years old. The first song I heard was "Stop It" on the Athens, GA: Inside/Out soundtrack, and honestly, it kind of scared me away from them. Then I heard R.E.M.'s cover of "Crazy," and then I heard "Beep" and I was sold. Pylon was the first band I ever saw at a "real" concert (i.e. non-local act), opening for R.E.M. Chain, the reunion album, had a few good moments, but I don't find myself pulling it out very often.

In "Beep," when Vanessa sings "FOUR MINUTES!", I think my sister thought she was singing "VARMINTS!".

Ernest P. (ernestp), Monday, 19 January 2004 04:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I EAT DUB FOR BREAKFAST

christhamrin (christhamrin), Monday, 19 January 2004 04:13 (sixteen years ago) link

The "Chomp" record is cute...has one jagged edge where the dinosaur in the cover photo presumably took a chomp out of it. I'm trying to decide if Martha and the Muffins belong on "the list."

dlp9001, Monday, 19 January 2004 04:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw them open for R.E.M. on the Green tour, they were great. All really nice people, too.

hstencil, Monday, 19 January 2004 05:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I even got the Pylon t-shirt from the R.E.M. Green tour. "Lefty loosy, righty tighty"

Aaron A., Monday, 19 January 2004 05:46 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah my brother did too.

hstencil, Monday, 19 January 2004 05:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Ok so who would be next on this list: Gang Of Four, Mission Of Burma, Pylon, ____, _____, _____?

would have to put the auteurs on that list.

pylon = classic [funny this thread should come up as i just grabbed "hits" off of ebay.]

william (william), Monday, 19 January 2004 06:14 (sixteen years ago) link

somehow I don't think of Go4 and the Auteurs as being "contemporaries."

hstencil, Monday, 19 January 2004 06:19 (sixteen years ago) link

The Au Pairs, maybe.

may pang (maypang), Monday, 19 January 2004 06:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually prefer Gyrate. I think it has more guitars and is a bit spikier. They're a bit surf rock on that one too. I think REM's White Tornado was kind of a Pylon rip. Pylon's great though.

danh, Monday, 19 January 2004 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

"Cool" is, like, one of the best singles ever. It is also the only Pylon record I own--I like 'em fine, but that's all I need.

Lee G (Lee G), Monday, 19 January 2004 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

See also their entry to the Athens, GA Inside/Out OMPS; "Stop It"

Great stuff... ...and not nearly as "fancy" as Let's Active.

christoff (christoff), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw Pylon at a record store back in early '92 and wasn't thrilled by them. However, I haven't really made any effort to check out their recorded music. They were nice, but their drummer kind of sucked and the singing was consistently off. That said, free record store gigs aren't known for sound quality; maybe they were just having a bad day.

webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 19 January 2004 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

'singing was consistently off' = that's one of the best things about them!

geeta (geeta), Monday, 19 January 2004 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

somehow I don't think of Go4 and the Auteurs as being "contemporaries."

gawddammit,may is right ...i meant the au pairs.

william (william), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 01:43 (sixteen years ago) link

shit, I haven't heard the au pairs either yet! This thread's been damn rewarding in my search for post-punk dance fever.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 02:05 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
They opened for R.E.M. a few times during their Green World Tour. I don't imagine that could've gone over so well.

My parents saw that tour...R.E.M. were so uninspiring and Pylon so thrilling that everyone here was talking about Pylon for the next month.

Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Good timing, Ian - didja know that Pylon have reunited recently?

http://fairmountfair.com/flagpole/main/articles.php?fp=231
http://fairmountfair.com/flagpole/main/articles.php?fp=230

Don't rock and roll. Don't rock and roll. Don't rock and roll, nooooooo.
NOW ROCK AND ROLL NOW! NOW ROCK AND ROLL NOW! NOW ROCK AND ROLL NOW! NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!

Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Anthony, do you have WANNA BUY A BRIDGE? Great place to check out post-punk (recently "re"-discovered Homosexuals can sound like unfoldings of Swell Maps' BRIDGE? track "Seymour"; 'mos good too, and despite the name, not for the analcore: they like it messy!) Most(not all) WANNA tracks individually reissued, but who wants to buy al those imprts and burn 'em together? (I do, but so far refrain). Uneven but w) essentials: Essential Logic's FANFARE IN THE GARDEN, various artists NEW YORK NOISE AND DISCO NOT DISCO and D N D 2. Not very uneven: DNA ON DNA. Also family of: Metal Urbain's AMARCHY IN PARIS!, Metal Boys featuring China's TOKIO AIRPORT, and Dr. Mix and the Remix's WALL OF NOISE (haven't wrapped my ears all the way around, but, as liner notes, point out, some tracks TOKIO AIRPORT-like/-worthy). These are on Acute, whose Dan Seltzer says Liquid Liquid have declined to re-re-issue their (at-least-$50.00-on-eBay) selself-titled, but are gonna do something with DFA (speaking of which, LCD Soundsystem's "Yeah" single is good).

Don Allred, Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll shut up in a minute honest: early R.E.M.'s itchy sweaty poison ivy X Bill Berry (live boot), FILE UNDER KUDZU; Rip Rig & Panic (with pre-rap rap-punkitudinous Neneh Cherry); Ian Drury and the Blockheads (pre-para-post-punk music hall/pub wags cruise the disco; English Beat's I JUST CAN'T STOP IT; Nile Rodgers' rhythm-as-lead disco, post VU's Bo Diddleyesque "What Goes On" esp. on LIVE IN TEXAS); Nile is on Material's ONE DOWN,as is Fred Frith: worth checking, but I prefer more get-down Material, with Fred & Sonny Sharrock; Sharrock's solo albums and with Last Exit; and, on the recently re-re-reissued (sonically much improved) ONE MAN DRIVES (P.Ubu), rec. in Nile's heday, Mayo Thompson does some Bo D.x VU x NIles-like rhythmic drive-by: This 'un's live too, and he's from Texas) Prime Ubu also pre-post-punk (ditto Rocket From Tombs, incl on best tracks of recent ROCKET REHASH I mean REDUX); most anything with Bob Quine, although Matthew Sweet makes me cry tears of boredom, distracting from Bob--nowillshutup

Don, Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I've got Wanna Buy A Bridge, it's all right. I'm a big Swell Maps fan.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Stiff Little Fingers, Delta 5, Slits, Essential Logic, TV Personalities, Swell Maps, Pop Group, Spizz Energi, Kleenex, Cabaret Voltaire, Raincoats, Young Marble Giants, Scritti Politti and Robert Wyatt = "it's all right" ???

Best comp ever.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I've seen Pylon more times than I can remember and they were always amazing! Early on Michael Stipe was depressed when they toured together because he thought REM would never be as good as them. I saw their first reunion in 1991, but missed this month's because I found out about it afterward and live an hour from Athens. (They let people know at the last minute.) I heard it was as good as ever. I'm on their new email list, and I'll do everything I can to catch their next show!
One time they were playing in this little club, and as they started "Danger!" the copes chased one of our friends into the club, onto the stage, around the musicians and out the other side. The band never lost a beat, and it fit the song so perfectly!
"Gyrate" is perfect, except it is lacking the fantastic song "Cool."

Amy Meacham, Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...
I just bought Pylon's Chomp on vinyl. WOW!!!! Fave song so far: "No Clocks"! Finally having "Crazy" for my very own is real nice, too. Boy do they beat the crap out of Romeo Void.

Bimble, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

What happened? They said Pylon's Gyrate was going to be re-released on DFA records in Fall of 2007. Oh...we're not there yet. Whew.

Bimble, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

uh yeah and all i ever heard from the liquid liquid project was BELLHEAD which was incredible.

artdamages, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

they need to get their shit together. dudes too busy w/ultimate fighting or whatever.

artdamages, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9OuD6xagLE

Some Pylon on youtube. They were great back in the early '80s.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 29 April 2007 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening now. Haven't heard a lot of their shows, but clear sound, music's cool & rough, not too dry, best for dancing, incl. vs. and with "Gravity": "Yew can't. Yew can't." Yes I can! Bumping into counts.

dow, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 20:14 (four years ago) link

dizzy among "Reptiles," drawn into wet tunnel of pedals & bass

dow, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 20:17 (four years ago) link

The gig was recorded (both audio and video) for a failed PBS pilot called Athens Shows

WANTWANTWANT VIDEO!

They have three studio albums, dagnabit!

Harvey Manfrenjensenden (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 14 June 2016 22:00 (four years ago) link

Funny, all these years, I've been remembering a genius track on the Athens, GA: Inside/Out soundtrack, Golden as being Pylon and remembering/forgetting to search it out. Searched and now find it was Dreams So Real. Only available on the soundtrack and a bootleg cd comp Discogs lists.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 15 June 2016 21:23 (four years ago) link

I need to hear this

curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 June 2016 14:37 (four years ago) link

the live Pylon album and the Dreams So Real track

curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 June 2016 14:38 (four years ago) link

ooooh, i always forget i have a copy of inside/out, it gets buried down in the soundtracks/comps. will pull that out for today's listening, thanks.

Harvey Manfrenjensenden (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 16 June 2016 15:35 (four years ago) link

Report back to us on that, please.
They have three studio albums, dagnabit! Yep, and Chain is worthy, but the press release is all about hyping Phase One: this is "the last show" until reuniting and it sure felt goood.

dizzy among "Reptiles," drawn into wet tunnel of pedals & bass On headphones, now think they're all fingers, fingers, fingers

dow, Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:58 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Good interview--- maybe source for the press sheet's backstory of Pylon Live, but other good bits too, like debunking the source of their name, also another name they considered. w visual deal, both still worth another band/solo artist's consid:
http://www.eldredgeatl.com/2016/07/01/art-punk-perfection-deerhunters-bradford-cox-interviews-pylon/

dow, Friday, 1 July 2016 19:02 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Vanessa & Michael make a mixtape of early 80s Athens bands, comment on 'em too---some deep out-of-catalog listening here:

http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2016/07/22/pylon-a-sonic-reminiscence-of-1980s-athens-ga/

dow, Friday, 22 July 2016 22:52 (four years ago) link

Yep, remember the names of many of those groups (the Squalls, etc.) but not the songs

curmudgeon, Monday, 25 July 2016 14:14 (four years ago) link

Interview with Vanessa and Michael
http://observer.com/2016/07/americas-other-best-band-pylons-brilliant-punk-minimalism-lives-on/

Brad C., Monday, 25 July 2016 18:29 (four years ago) link

Nice. I remember them opening for U2 at the U of MD in 83, and eventually I will find the never published interview I did with them then that was going to go in my fanzine's next issue, but we ended the zine before that could happen.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 16:54 (four years ago) link

The dancing crowd shots in that Side Effects footage make me so nostalgic. That's how I spent my early 20s too.

this is a salad for the BALSAMIC REVIVAL (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 26 July 2016 17:28 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Saw Pylon Reenactment Society the other night. The band is not quite Pylon, but they re-do the tracks pretty well, and Vanessa still powerfully switches between her screetch and a more melodic tone

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 September 2016 12:53 (three years ago) link

In addition to the Reenactment Society tour, the Pylon Live in 83 album is out, music from "Cool" is in a Lexus commercial, and they're namedropped by young hip Baltimore post-punk artist Sneaks (recently signed to Merge)

curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 September 2016 12:56 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

PRS is touring again this summer.

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2018/06/12/pylon-reenactment-society-tour-dates/

nickn, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:16 (two years ago) link

Chomp More disappeared from Apple Music! Gah.

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:55 (two years ago) link

Spotify too. Main thing left seems to be live album

And Nobody POLLS Like Me (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:16 (two years ago) link

Chomp More was on DFA

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 04:18 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_3sPmTRsFs

live 1981

Brad C., Sunday, 8 July 2018 15:40 (two years ago) link

thank yoouuuu

every time this thread is revived i hope it's with footage like that

Karl Malone, Sunday, 8 July 2018 16:17 (two years ago) link

haha, were bewley and lachowski toying with the idea of coordinated stage dancing during that era? (see 7:10 in for a glimpse)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 8 July 2018 16:23 (two years ago) link

How do you guys feel about the quality of the reissues? I liked them but maybe sound a bit more dense than they should? I haven't heard the originals. Feel like I should have enjoyed these albums more.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 21 July 2018 21:49 (two years ago) link

Top 3 tracks: Yoyo, Human Body, Cool.

Kinda wish there was more stuff with the sound of the Cool/Dub single.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 21 July 2018 21:52 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

A Tourist in the Land of Rock 'n' Roll: Vanessa Briscoe Hay

A long interview that includes a lot of details about the early history of the band

Brad C., Sunday, 5 August 2018 13:06 (two years ago) link

Wow, thanks

Suspicious Hiveminds (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 August 2018 13:45 (two years ago) link

Here's my ancient review, with a little update added to the blog archive clip:

Originally published in Village Voice,Tuesday, OCTOBER 9, 2007 AT 4 A.M.

Pylon, Gyrate Plus (DFA)

"Cool" begins with a march, which Pylon's guitar propeller finely chops, letting the chips fly and fall where they may. No hurry. But nothing too laid-back, either—not in a small Southern town, where everybody who isn't dead is aware that too-easy fuh-un is as boring as everything else. So, despite not being as biz-adaptable as Athens, GA neighbors and admirers like the B-52s and R.E.M., Pylon were and are practical, in their own way. Their lyrics have been called surreal, but it's all part of the protocol, as vocalist (and registered nurse) Vanessa Briscoe often murmurs her way into a surgical strike, around which Michael Lanchowski's bass, Curtis Crowe's drums, and Randy Bewley's guitar channel a sinuous, sensuous, yet non-anesthetic groove, on Gyrate Plus: Pylon's 1980 debut album plus bonus tracks, including earlier singles ("Cool" and the equally voracious "Dub"), now opening Gyrate's first appearance on CD. They both sneak up on "Danger," which has often infiltrated DFA/LCD Soundsystem co-founder James Murphy's DJ sets. A few tracks here are too arty-mundane, which can happen when you're flying DIY through another date with "Gravity," like this brainy slam band did around the dawn of the big '80s, briefly in the '90s, and several times since '04. But, as Vanessa growls on the previously unreleased "Functionality": "There's something to be written on the air," always, and never much room for typos.

(update: Briscoe later told an interviewer that her combo's name came from the stripey road cone, not Faulkner's novel, Still, the way that his stunt-flying crew's inner tumult added to the momentum of their unified front always has appealed as a rockband description too.)

dow, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 02:06 (two years ago) link

For some reason Gyrate Plus got pulled from Spotify.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:45 (two years ago) link

Got pulled back in June from Spotify as was noted earlier in this thread. Still not there.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:54 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Vanessa has been working on a Pylon timeline and asks for help filling in gaps

Brad C., Saturday, 19 October 2019 22:07 (nine months ago) link

Nice

curmudgeon, Friday, 1 November 2019 23:28 (nine months ago) link

six months pass...

https://vimeo.com/411617086

part of the video from the 1983 show released as Pylon Live

Brad C., Thursday, 14 May 2020 12:32 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Haven't had time to read all of this yet, but good, brisk-not-breathless detail so far (lots of it I didn't know), also video links:
https://slate.com/culture/2020/07/pylon-band-athens-georgia-history-video-cool-town.html
Adapted from
Cool Town: How Athens, Georgia, Launched Alternative Music and Changed American Culture by Grace Elizabeth Hale, in stores now from the University of North Carolina Press.
Yes way overselling past the colon, but may not have been her idea---got to watch those university presslords.

dow, Friday, 10 July 2020 04:02 (four weeks ago) link

https://vimeo.com/411617086

part of the video from the 1983 show released as Pylon Live

― Brad C., Thursday, May 14, 2020 7:32 AM

yes, i've had too much to drink and shit has been weird, but yes, that brought me to tears by the end. jfc

Karl Malone, Friday, 10 July 2020 04:44 (four weeks ago) link

I've had Cool Town on the shelf for months and am finally three chapters in. I'm struggling here and there with Hale's romanticism and nostalgia, but that reaction has more to do with my personal perspective on the early Athens scene than with the way her utopianism occasionally drifts over the top.

As history, it's excellent, meticulous on details and documentation and (judging from what I've so far) the best account yet of how the scene evolved from the B-52s to Pylon to R.E.M. I thought Lurie's Begin the Begin was exhaustive, but Hale's broader context lets her show better how skeptically R.E.M. were received by the Pylon-centric faithful and why R.E.M. became so much more successful (tl;dr Pylon didn't have the same industry connections and weren't willing to tour pizza parlors to build a regional audience).

Pylon rules.

Brad C., Friday, 10 July 2020 14:39 (four weeks ago) link

I somehow missed news of this book. I'm pretty much a romanticist and a nostalgist when it comes to stuff like this, so count me in.

Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Friday, 10 July 2020 14:46 (four weeks ago) link

I am torn on the romantic and nostalgic approach but want to read the book to hear more about the early days of Pylon, and yes to cherish my memories of seeing them back then and playing their music on my college radio show.

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 July 2020 16:45 (four weeks ago) link

Hale was in Athens in the 80s, so some of her romantic/nostalgic tone is that of a memoir ... it combines a bit oddly with the research-backed reportage, but it's earned and she maintains a careful balance between those voices

More difficult for me are some strong claims (suggested by the subtitle) about the Athens scene's unique influence, rarity, creativity, freedom, etc. ... as a cranky old townie, my first reaction to these is rmde, but she frames her arguments in ways that are making me reflect on my skepticism, so I'm enjoying that cognitive dissonance as much as the factual content

it's too close to home for me to be objective, but just based on the quality of the writing and research, I'd recommend it to anyone into Our Band Could Be Your Life and similar books

Brad C., Friday, 10 July 2020 17:17 (four weeks ago) link

three weeks pass...

Dissatisfaction, what?
Let's take a look at that ink
B-L-O-T

I'm tired of moving my jaw
Gonna call and pa and ma
M-A, 10 points
Mamamamamamamamamamamamama, 10 points

Life is nothing
But death and taxes
And all the trees
That get the axes
A-X-E-S
Ohhhhhh, 22

You aren't the status quo
I just thought that you
Wanted to know
N-O, 8 points
Nonononononononononononono, 8 points

Let go of my sleeve
Or I'll turn you over my knee, knee
K-N-E-E
K!

The Camaro has a
D-E-N-T
Dissatisfaction
What!

is "K" about scrabble?

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Saturday, 1 August 2020 19:31 (one week ago) link

Y-E-S, 6 points

https://creativeloafing.com/content-161391-vanessa-briscoe-hay-s-top-5-pylon

Brad C., Saturday, 1 August 2020 19:53 (one week ago) link

haha, that's awesome! the whole anecdote about the making of that song is cool:

2) "K" from the album Chomp

This song that fell together by chance. The lyrics came from a scrabble game that bassist Michael Lachowski and I played together in a session where we were consciously trying to write lyrics. When we first performed this song live, it fell completely apart. We were sort of embarrassed, but our friend John Seawright came up to us after the show and was raving about that new song. We went back and listened to the tape of it and realized that it was better than what we were originally trying to do. So we spent hours dissecting that tape and learning the song the way it accidentally happened. Chris Stamey and Gene Holder from the DBs worked with us at Mitch Easter's studio to make it happen in an interesting way.

vanessa hay is a lovely person

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Saturday, 1 August 2020 20:12 (one week ago) link

From Rolling Reissues, re 2020 Soul Jazz comp The World of Keith Haring: "Danger" certainly held its own among stiff competition (these are the ones I liked):
3. Pylon – Danger£0.99
6. John Sex – Bump and Grind It£0.99
8. The Girls – Jeffrey I Hear You£0.99
10. Talking Heads – I Zimbra (on CD version only)
12. Class Action – Weekend (Larry Levan Mix)
13. Adiche – Chuka-Ja (Get Ready)£0.99
15. The Golden Flamingo Orchestra – The Guardian Angel Is Watching Over Us
16. Gray – Cut It Up High Priest£0.99
19. Yoko Ono – Walking On Thin Ice

That's almost half, better than I thought.

― dow, Monday, July 27, 2020 6:41 PM (five days ago)

dow, Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:15 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAOILacn8Dw&t

Video of full show, Cleveland, 6/22/90

Brad C., Sunday, 2 August 2020 13:17 (one week ago) link

let's try that YouTube link again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAOILacn8Dw&t

Brad C., Sunday, 2 August 2020 13:18 (one week ago) link

bah, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAOILacn8Dw&t

Brad C., Sunday, 2 August 2020 13:19 (one week ago) link

sigh ... search YouTube for "pylon cleveland"

Brad C., Sunday, 2 August 2020 13:20 (one week ago) link

maybe try a different browser? Chrome won't do this any more for me, Firefox sometimes.

dow, Monday, 3 August 2020 02:40 (six days ago) link


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