David Crosby's If I Could Only Remember My Name - C or D?

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Cocaine-Rogain Aquarian classic or overblown hippie crapola?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 18 January 2004 01:59 (seventeen years ago) link

overblown hippy classic.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link

but not as good as that Red Hash album my brother-in-law was playing me on new years.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic if only for Laughing, Cowboy Movie and Traction in the Rain

pete s, Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it as half as amazing as Gene Clark's No Other as far as lost solo / vanity classics go? Cuz thats one of my all time favorites.

Red Hash?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic! Drugged out psych-folk rambling akin to John Martyn's early 70's albums. And they do some kind of medieval plainsong number near the end of the album, which is unexpected and v. weird coming from a bunch of American hippies.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:12 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not quite in the same class as 'No Other' roger but it has the same ambition. It tries to get to the same place without really....moving off its ass. It's even more decadent than that album.

pete s, Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

awesome. i'm sold. thanks guys.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Gary Higgins - Red Hash

superstoner folk-psych from 73. they are both great albums though. that red hash album just hit the spot so well cuz i was on top of a mountain in woodstock with gale-force winds whipping around the house while high on weed. it was a set and setting kinda thing. dunno, if there is a reissue that is easy to find. i want one if there is.

(before we headed for woodstock we stayed at my wife's dad's place on top of a mountain in massachusetts where he has a new-age retreat and the crosby cd was prominently displayed next to all their african carvings.)

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:30 (seventeen years ago) link

The David Crosby and Graham Nash record is also great and well worth checking out. I like "If only I could remember my name" a lot, but yes, it's not quite "No other". All good stuff though.

Keith Watson (kmw), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

"If I Could Only Remember My Name" = classic, absolutely; the comedown to the Byrds' "Notorious Byrd Brothers". Worth it for "Laughing" alone but the whole record is absolutely incredible. Bought it three times! (CD, LP, reissue LP)... God I'm sad. (I did send one of those to SR though.)
It's up there with Gene Clark's "No Other", yet another great record, although I've not quite fathomed why everyone rates that one over "White Light", which to me is Clark's best solo record, for "Spanish Guitar" and "With Tomorrow" alone. (Make sure you get the recent CD reissue, the extra tracks are fantastic.)
Keith - is there only one Crosby/Nash record - if there's more, which one are you talking about?
The only record to come close to the 'mood' of "If I Could Only Remember My Name" is, perhaps, the second Meat Puppets record...

jwd, Monday, 19 January 2004 07:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, no, I've tried several times and I just can't see what all the fuss is about.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 19 January 2004 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it as half as amazing as Gene Clark's No Other as far as lost solo / vanity classics go? Cuz thats one of my all time favorites.

Absolutely nothing like "No Other", I love it personally, in fact i prefer to "No Other" ... today

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 January 2004 13:09 (seventeen years ago) link

jwd - sorry, don't know if there are more than one, but I don't think so. This is the one I'm talking about:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000C3G6/qid=1074537265/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_11_8/026-4549943-0217242

Keith Watson (kmw), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Should, if you follow all the rules, be terrible.
Is, in fact, truly exhilerating.
Classic. Oh yes.

harveyw (harveyw), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 12:10 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...
thank you for these recommendations.

how's the John Phillips - John, the Wolf King of LA? i've heard that album is supposed to tread the same terrain?

anything else like this?

JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 15 October 2004 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Regarding great lost solo classics, Dennis Wilson deserves a mention.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 16 October 2004 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
This album is incredible. I love hippies.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

If only I could forget his name.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic... if just for the guitar tunings.

Dud - that David Crosby songbook with the dodgy binding that falls to bits in your hands. Anyone else got one of those?

avery keen-gardner (avery keen-gardner), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

The John Phillips album is so excellent.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 20 October 2005 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i still haven't fallen in love with the John Phillips album :(

Burger abortion i don't ask it i demand it!!!! (jaxon), Thursday, 20 October 2005 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
"You know that Indian Girl? She was no Indian, she was the LAW"
Man that line just too freakin' heav-eeeee dude.

dr lulu (dr lulu), Friday, 7 July 2006 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link

One of my favourite album covers as well (and gatefold sleeve), these things are important

¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 08:15 (fourteen years ago) link

After my accident, when I was back at home and still wracked with pain - couldn't sleep, couldn't stay awake - listening to this album was an especially hallucinatory experience, but a nice one. In its own bone-headed 1970 way it had a healing quality about it. It drifted in and out of focus in the same way I was. It was comforting.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 7 July 2006 08:24 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...
yeahhh, so i bought this last night and listened to it twice. it's great. anyone know where i can score those outtakes?

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyone thinking of getting the 3 CD Crosby box set that's coming out later this month?

treefell (treefell), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Yup, totally classic status. It's also one of those rare psych-folk LPs that is relatively easy to find and only a few bucks, which is kind of endearing.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 3 November 2006 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

yourfullname, that your real email?

jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 3 November 2006 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

If Only I Could Remember My Email

Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

whatevs - http://www.sendspace.com/file/tl27jc

jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

OH OH THANX!

shit, i missed when this thread got bumped. thank you SO much, jaxon.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 09:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, thanx Jax, you're a star!

Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 10:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Nice outtakes, thank you.

I have never heard the intakes though.

Re: the box set (which I would like, yes, but it is quite expensive), can you spot the odd one out here:

Customers who bought this item also bought
If I Could Only Remember My Name: Remastered & Expanded/+Dvda ~ David Crosby
There Is a Season: +DVD ~ Byrds
The Complete Reprise Sessions ~ Gram Parsons
Orphans [3CD Set] ~ Tom Waits
The Slade Box [Box Set] ~ Slade
Perception: 40th Anniversary (6 CD's and 6 DVD-A's) ~ Doors

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, what is that clown Tom Waits doing in there

Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone know what's on that dvd that comes w/the remastered version?

jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it's just a surround sound mix rather than any visuals, but I'm not sure.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, the cover is classic so-bad-its-good.

deekew (deekew), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Everybody's saying that music's for free.

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, the cover is classic so-bad-its-good.

i don't get this at all. i guess it's a little dated, but i'd never think it was terrible.

jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

UNDOUBTED CLASSIQUE

calvin johnson has ruined rock for an entire generation (orion), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link

If Only I Could Dismember My Liver

(i need to get this record at long last)

timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I like this album. Matter of fact, I like most of what this bunch of people did during this period. "If I Could Only Remember My Name" is still rather different from typical CSN-material though, more dreamy and slightly more experimental. Still good.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 9 November 2006 09:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Those outtakes are very Cleo Laine.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 9 November 2006 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link

The album has yet to be remastered. Maybe Rhino will include some of the outtakes if they remaster it.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 9 November 2006 11:26 (fourteen years ago) link

it looks like there might be an alt. version of "cowboy movie" on the crosby box set.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 9 November 2006 11:31 (fourteen years ago) link

The album has yet to be remastered. Maybe Rhino will include some of the outtakes if they remaster it.

geir, good job reading AGAIN. there are two mentions only a couple of posts above yours that mention the remastered & expanded version

jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, the cover is classic so-bad-its-good.

Madness, it's so-good-its-good!

Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Friday, 10 November 2006 10:41 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, there's nothing wrong with the cover for this LP! MUCH better in fact than yer average CSN(Y) cover.

calvin johnson has ruined rock for an entire generation (orion), Friday, 10 November 2006 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I was listing my five favourite Byrds songs period, whether Crosby wrote them or not--should have been clearer. Was just agreeing with NTI that "Lady Friend" was close to the top.

And Eight Miles High, gimme a break

Because you were there in the studio, right? Your dislike of Crosby seems a little intense.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:03 (one year ago) link

McGuinn/Hillman finished off "Draft Morning" and put their names on it to Crosby's chagrin.

Crosby wanted "Triad" on the album instead of "Goin' Back".

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:05 (one year ago) link

(xxp) I mean McGuinn and Hillman attaching their names to songs that Crosby claims were almost entirely his work.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:05 (one year ago) link

(xp)

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:05 (one year ago) link

XP By "finished off", I mean added a couple lines and brought in the Firesign Theatre to do sound effects.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:07 (one year ago) link

On "Draft Morning".

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:07 (one year ago) link

With the usual caveats about Wikipedia, this presents Crosby's contributions to "Eight Miles High" as much more than just putting his name on something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Miles_High#Composition

He contributes what is, for me at least, the song's single most unforgettable line--"rain grey town"; I used that for a chapter title in a book--and he's the guy who plays Coltrane and Shankar for the rest of the band. If you accept McGuinn's version, Crosby contributes more than that to the lyrics.

It looks like the song is primarily Clark's, yes, but Crosby's contributions to the writing and the playing seem crucial to me.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 August 2019 16:13 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

caught the doc last night. A lot of entertaining bits, as one would expect from someone as alternately cantankerous and reflective as Croz. Didn't raise my estimation of his musical prowess any - he's still definitely the lesser light among his many contemporaries/collaborators imo (McGuinn, Neil, Joni, Nash, etc.) - but he is a compelling subject, and his humility and contrition about his many fuckups come off as genuine, admirable, and, ultimately, tragic. The end where he discusses how no one wants to talk to him or work with him and why is he alive when so many of his friends are dead is some for real, heavy shit.

As always, the omissions were also interesting: no discussion of his brother's suicide, and Gene Clark doesn't get even a mention (he's not even in any of the Byrds clips that flash by). And my wife wanted to know why they didn't mention the Melissa Etheridge sperm donation lol.

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 15:09 (one year ago) link

also lol I had never seen that Silent Night performance before, that shit was hilarious

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 21:44 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Brought a ringer into the studio to sing pic.twitter.com/D9o9wkMXPh

— Jason Isbell (@JasonIsbell) December 11, 2019

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 22:00 (one year ago) link

The guy's voice is still in amazing shape, which must be something of a small miracle. Still, betting Isbell is Twitter-blocking him by the weekend...

henry s, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 22:23 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Good interview.

http://www.gq.com/story/david-crosby-coronavirus-touring-interview

clemenza, Sunday, 15 March 2020 15:58 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Cros gonna Cros.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:30 (eight months ago) link

great twitter personality

here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:32 (eight months ago) link

Would love to see Croz outlive all 70s/80s hard rockers

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:40 (eight months ago) link

Cros gonna Cros.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, October 13, 2020 2:30 PM

*croz

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:01 (eight months ago) link

Croz has always been a world class dik.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:03 (eight months ago) link

Honestly it was relatively restrained for Croz to keep it to a simple "meh".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:07 (eight months ago) link

amusing on twitter for sure, i ride for this album
but a world class asshole whose honestly kinda begging to be #metooed at this point by keeping such a high profile

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:11 (eight months ago) link

It only got worse from there, when yet another Twitter follower wrote, “Yeah, the guy only CHANGED THE WORLD OF GUITAR. geeezzz dave.” To that one, Crosby wrote, “Hendrix changed the world of guitar. Nobody else really … look I get it … many of you loved Van Halen …. and the one time I met he was nice … and he was talented … meh to me means I don’t care that much … and I don’t … doesn’t mean he wasn’t good, he was but not for me.”

cros otm

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:18 (eight months ago) link

^^^

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:24 (eight months ago) link

yeah that doesnt really seem wrong lol ... love evh tho

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:43 (eight months ago) link

evh changed the guitar, absolutely he did it's absurd to say otherwise

fucking die hippie

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:48 (eight months ago) link

Before Eddie Van Halen a guitar was a bus

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 01:32 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

Croz has burner accounts to kiss his own ass

Hi David. I don’t get on Twitter much but just wanted to let you know I’m really digging your album Here If You Listen. A masterpiece!

— David Crosby (@thedavidcrosby) November 26, 2020

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 November 2020 22:37 (six months ago) link

lol that's awesome

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 November 2020 23:16 (six months ago) link

Looks like he remembered his name!

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 26 November 2020 23:26 (six months ago) link

LOL

What’s weird about it is that he clearly manages the vast majority of his own Twitter content.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 26 November 2020 23:49 (six months ago) link

and he's doing a great job

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 November 2020 23:49 (six months ago) link

tbf, it doesn't say theREALdavidcrosby

nickn, Friday, 27 November 2020 00:28 (six months ago) link

Neil Young's secret Twitter account in the guise of David Crosby.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 27 November 2020 00:37 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

50 years old today apparently

David Crosby's debut solo album 'If I Only Could Only Remember My Name' is Crosby's most definitive work as a psychedelic rock pioneer

It turns 50 today; we looked back on it in a retrospective review: https://t.co/JQJYuuI2Tz pic.twitter.com/2fpFwdShvh

— BrooklynVegan (@brooklynvegan) February 22, 2021

groovypanda, Monday, 22 February 2021 13:39 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

HOLY FUCK http://aquariumdrunk.blogspot.com/2006/07/david-crosby-1970-session-outtakes.html
― flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Thursday, July 6, 2006 10:23 PM (fourteen years ago)

A decade-and-a-half later, I finally pulled down these outtakes and ... I love them (so much so that I tweeted at Croz to see if there's any chance these would be released officially).

First off, this stuff **sounds** incredible -- pristine and crisp but also ... spacey, like the unresolved harmonies and languid rhythms of "Triad" and "Deja Vu" gently folded into a mixing bowl. In places, there's a bit of a Dream Letter-era Tim Buckley vibe to some of this -- the acoustic rounds of stuff like "Mountain Song" where these semi-improvised harmonies just coast over pristine guitar arpeggios, the lumbering floatiness of "Wall Song." In others (ie, "Wild Turkey - aka Leather Winged Bat") there's a sort of mellow acid rock jamminess that transcends a lot of the work of the dudes creating it. Hell, I even like the Jerry Garcia vocal on "Loser." The fact that half of it feels like it's being "written" on the spot without being aimless or half-assed kind of only adds to the magic.

Anything that conjures such a vibe almost demands a full release. Do it, Croz!

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 13:41 (two months ago) link

I’m disappointed that there wasn’t some 50th anniversary deluxe edition containing all the PERRO sessions and the David and the Dorks show. Croz may not be as big as some of the other 1971 releases getting that treatment, but he just had a documentary so you’d think there’d be some commercial potential. Maybe the rights issues were too much, considering all the famous names involved.

blatherskite, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 14:01 (two months ago) link

I’ll also say the surround sound mix of this album is pretty good—the “airiness” of it enhances the mood, whereas surround mixes can often make older LPs sound a bit too separated, like listening to the components of a song rather than the final product. It’s quite a thing to hear those harmonies wash over you from all directions.

blatherskite, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 14:04 (two months ago) link

I haven't heard the David and the Dorks show -- okay, gotta grab that now.

Yeah, I actually adore the surround mix of IICORMN -- it helps that it was done by Stephen Barncard, who engineered the original sessions. And they included a mix of "Kids and Dogs" from the PERRO sessions. But you're right -- this really would be the year to do it given everything. Who knows? Maybe Nash's involvement in the record is part of the problem with getting things done now. One can still hope ...

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 15:10 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Did anyone else realize that if you remove one letter and shuffle the words of the title "Music Is Love"... Crosby was predicting the name of this very board, not to come into existence until thirty years after his album came out?

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 6 June 2021 15:40 (two weeks ago) link

Hate to break it to you but everybody's sayin' that.

Noel Emits, Sunday, 6 June 2021 15:48 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, he predicted the internet!

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 6 June 2021 15:59 (two weeks ago) link

We used to listen to a kids song called “I Love Everything,” and one verse was “I love music, I love music…”

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Sunday, 6 June 2021 16:42 (two weeks ago) link

man, songs like that are soooooo fucking weird

it's like a style of childrearing where you try to keep the innocence and perfection going as long as possible while ignoring everything else

Karl Malone, Sunday, 6 June 2021 16:49 (two weeks ago) link

that song should be called I Want to Love Everything, but I have Already Heard About What Is Happening

Karl Malone, Sunday, 6 June 2021 16:50 (two weeks ago) link

It was used in a music class for babies and young toddlers; each verse deals with something very basic they know and (presumably) love.

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Sunday, 6 June 2021 17:06 (two weeks ago) link

but they could maybe throw in a verse about how sometimes the diapers get dirty, and that's normal

Karl Malone, Sunday, 6 June 2021 17:34 (two weeks ago) link

not just innocence and perfection but forced jubilation

brimstead, Sunday, 6 June 2021 17:36 (two weeks ago) link

babies

brimstead, Sunday, 6 June 2021 17:37 (two weeks ago) link

babies should be made to sing songs about the other sperms that didn't make it

Karl Malone, Sunday, 6 June 2021 17:43 (two weeks ago) link

"He Would Have Been My Brother Archibald"

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 June 2021 17:44 (two weeks ago) link

advanced infant songs, vol 2.

one in a hundred million / I said one in a hundred million!
and i won't forget what my father's done...

Karl Malone, Sunday, 6 June 2021 17:44 (two weeks ago) link


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