David Crosby's If I Could Only Remember My Name - C or D?

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Cocaine-Rogain Aquarian classic or overblown hippie crapola?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 18 January 2004 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link

overblown hippy classic.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link

but not as good as that Red Hash album my brother-in-law was playing me on new years.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic if only for Laughing, Cowboy Movie and Traction in the Rain

pete s, Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Is it as half as amazing as Gene Clark's No Other as far as lost solo / vanity classics go? Cuz thats one of my all time favorites.

Red Hash?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic! Drugged out psych-folk rambling akin to John Martyn's early 70's albums. And they do some kind of medieval plainsong number near the end of the album, which is unexpected and v. weird coming from a bunch of American hippies.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not quite in the same class as 'No Other' roger but it has the same ambition. It tries to get to the same place without really....moving off its ass. It's even more decadent than that album.

pete s, Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link

awesome. i'm sold. thanks guys.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Gary Higgins - Red Hash

superstoner folk-psych from 73. they are both great albums though. that red hash album just hit the spot so well cuz i was on top of a mountain in woodstock with gale-force winds whipping around the house while high on weed. it was a set and setting kinda thing. dunno, if there is a reissue that is easy to find. i want one if there is.

(before we headed for woodstock we stayed at my wife's dad's place on top of a mountain in massachusetts where he has a new-age retreat and the crosby cd was prominently displayed next to all their african carvings.)

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 18 January 2004 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link

The David Crosby and Graham Nash record is also great and well worth checking out. I like "If only I could remember my name" a lot, but yes, it's not quite "No other". All good stuff though.

Keith Watson (kmw), Sunday, 18 January 2004 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link

"If I Could Only Remember My Name" = classic, absolutely; the comedown to the Byrds' "Notorious Byrd Brothers". Worth it for "Laughing" alone but the whole record is absolutely incredible. Bought it three times! (CD, LP, reissue LP)... God I'm sad. (I did send one of those to SR though.)
It's up there with Gene Clark's "No Other", yet another great record, although I've not quite fathomed why everyone rates that one over "White Light", which to me is Clark's best solo record, for "Spanish Guitar" and "With Tomorrow" alone. (Make sure you get the recent CD reissue, the extra tracks are fantastic.)
Keith - is there only one Crosby/Nash record - if there's more, which one are you talking about?
The only record to come close to the 'mood' of "If I Could Only Remember My Name" is, perhaps, the second Meat Puppets record...

jwd, Monday, 19 January 2004 07:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry, no, I've tried several times and I just can't see what all the fuss is about.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 19 January 2004 10:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Is it as half as amazing as Gene Clark's No Other as far as lost solo / vanity classics go? Cuz thats one of my all time favorites.

Absolutely nothing like "No Other", I love it personally, in fact i prefer to "No Other" ... today

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 January 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link

jwd - sorry, don't know if there are more than one, but I don't think so. This is the one I'm talking about:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000C3G6/qid=1074537265/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_11_8/026-4549943-0217242

Keith Watson (kmw), Monday, 19 January 2004 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Should, if you follow all the rules, be terrible.
Is, in fact, truly exhilerating.
Classic. Oh yes.

harveyw (harveyw), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
thank you for these recommendations.

how's the John Phillips - John, the Wolf King of LA? i've heard that album is supposed to tread the same terrain?

anything else like this?

JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 15 October 2004 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Regarding great lost solo classics, Dennis Wilson deserves a mention.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 16 October 2004 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
This album is incredible. I love hippies.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

If only I could forget his name.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 22:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic... if just for the guitar tunings.

Dud - that David Crosby songbook with the dodgy binding that falls to bits in your hands. Anyone else got one of those?

avery keen-gardner (avery keen-gardner), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The John Phillips album is so excellent.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 20 October 2005 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i still haven't fallen in love with the John Phillips album :(

Burger abortion i don't ask it i demand it!!!! (jaxon), Thursday, 20 October 2005 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...
"You know that Indian Girl? She was no Indian, she was the LAW"
Man that line just too freakin' heav-eeeee dude.

dr lulu (dr lulu), Friday, 7 July 2006 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

One of my favourite album covers as well (and gatefold sleeve), these things are important

¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 08:15 (sixteen years ago) link

After my accident, when I was back at home and still wracked with pain - couldn't sleep, couldn't stay awake - listening to this album was an especially hallucinatory experience, but a nice one. In its own bone-headed 1970 way it had a healing quality about it. It drifted in and out of focus in the same way I was. It was comforting.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 7 July 2006 08:24 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...
yeahhh, so i bought this last night and listened to it twice. it's great. anyone know where i can score those outtakes?

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone thinking of getting the 3 CD Crosby box set that's coming out later this month?

treefell (treefell), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Yup, totally classic status. It's also one of those rare psych-folk LPs that is relatively easy to find and only a few bucks, which is kind of endearing.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 3 November 2006 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

yourfullname, that your real email?

jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 3 November 2006 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

If Only I Could Remember My Email

Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

whatevs - http://www.sendspace.com/file/tl27jc

jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link

OH OH THANX!

shit, i missed when this thread got bumped. thank you SO much, jaxon.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 09:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, thanx Jax, you're a star!

Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 10:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Nice outtakes, thank you.

I have never heard the intakes though.

Re: the box set (which I would like, yes, but it is quite expensive), can you spot the odd one out here:

Customers who bought this item also bought
If I Could Only Remember My Name: Remastered & Expanded/+Dvda ~ David Crosby
There Is a Season: +DVD ~ Byrds
The Complete Reprise Sessions ~ Gram Parsons
Orphans [3CD Set] ~ Tom Waits
The Slade Box [Box Set] ~ Slade
Perception: 40th Anniversary (6 CD's and 6 DVD-A's) ~ Doors

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, what is that clown Tom Waits doing in there

Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 11:27 (sixteen years ago) link

anyone know what's on that dvd that comes w/the remastered version?

jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it's just a surround sound mix rather than any visuals, but I'm not sure.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, the cover is classic so-bad-its-good.

deekew (deekew), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Everybody's saying that music's for free.

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, the cover is classic so-bad-its-good.

i don't get this at all. i guess it's a little dated, but i'd never think it was terrible.

jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

UNDOUBTED CLASSIQUE

calvin johnson has ruined rock for an entire generation (orion), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

If Only I Could Dismember My Liver

(i need to get this record at long last)

timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I like this album. Matter of fact, I like most of what this bunch of people did during this period. "If I Could Only Remember My Name" is still rather different from typical CSN-material though, more dreamy and slightly more experimental. Still good.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 9 November 2006 09:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Those outtakes are very Cleo Laine.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 9 November 2006 11:00 (sixteen years ago) link

The album has yet to be remastered. Maybe Rhino will include some of the outtakes if they remaster it.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 9 November 2006 11:26 (sixteen years ago) link

it looks like there might be an alt. version of "cowboy movie" on the crosby box set.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 9 November 2006 11:31 (sixteen years ago) link

The album has yet to be remastered. Maybe Rhino will include some of the outtakes if they remaster it.

geir, good job reading AGAIN. there are two mentions only a couple of posts above yours that mention the remastered & expanded version

jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, the cover is classic so-bad-its-good.

Madness, it's so-good-its-good!

Dadaismus (Takin' Funk to Heaven in '77) (Dada), Friday, 10 November 2006 10:41 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, there's nothing wrong with the cover for this LP! MUCH better in fact than yer average CSN(Y) cover.

calvin johnson has ruined rock for an entire generation (orion), Friday, 10 November 2006 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link

IOICRMN, obvs. xp

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 20 January 2023 18:02 (two weeks ago) link

Worst acronym since King Crimson's "ITCOTCK."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 January 2023 18:19 (two weeks ago) link

It's awful and I regret partaking in it.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 20 January 2023 18:27 (two weeks ago) link

lol

sleeve, Friday, 20 January 2023 18:30 (two weeks ago) link

ITWOP isn't much better tbf.

A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Friday, 20 January 2023 18:34 (two weeks ago) link

So is the CSN (1977) worth resurrecting? It had "Wasted on the Way" but I didn't know it went 4x platinum; I guess it would've hit #1 if something called Rumours hadn't interfered. I know "Dark Star."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 January 2023 19:34 (two weeks ago) link

Yes it’s their best album

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 20 January 2023 19:40 (two weeks ago) link

“Just a song before I go”, “shadow captain”, and yes “dark star”

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 20 January 2023 19:40 (two weeks ago) link

“Cathedral” is something else too, re cros on that album

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 20 January 2023 19:41 (two weeks ago) link

Oops, sorry -- I meant "Just a Song..."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 January 2023 19:41 (two weeks ago) link

xp sorry I’m stoned, “cathedral” is nash

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 20 January 2023 19:42 (two weeks ago) link

lol Croz would approve, I think

sleeve, Friday, 20 January 2023 19:45 (two weeks ago) link

R.I.P. He was absolutely right about Phoebe Bridgers.

JackMyFruit, Friday, 20 January 2023 20:04 (two weeks ago) link

"Dark Star" is among my top three CSN songs.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 January 2023 20:24 (two weeks ago) link

xp - absolutely not, his treatment of Bridgers was a good reminder that, nah, he really was still a huge fucking asshole and misogynist

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 January 2023 20:35 (two weeks ago) link

FWIW, the Washington Post published a story on the confusion over whether he died:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/01/20/david-crosby-obituaries-variety-confusion/

An excerpt:

The first apparent news about Crosby came at 3:15 p.m. Eastern time. It was a one-paragraph statement attributed to Crosby’s wife, Jan Dance, disseminated via a news-release wire called NewsDirect. It carried the headline, “Legendary Musician, Husband, Father, and Friend David Crosby passes away.”

Reporters typically rely on close family members, associates of the deceased or law enforcement officials to corroborate a death. But it wasn’t clear who had written Dance’s statement; when reporters sought to verify its source, listed by NewsDirect as “J. Bickerton,” their emails bounced back. They were also unable to reach Dance.

Just before 5 p.m., Variety, the entertainment industry journal, confirmed Crosby’s death via two sources that it didn’t identify. It published a lengthy obituary that included Dance’s statement...About 90 minutes after Variety published its initial report, however, it added a seemingly ominous “clarification” to the bottom of its lengthy story: “An earlier version of this story included a statement attributed to Jan Crosby that Variety has not been able to independently confirm with others in Crosby’s camp.”

The clarification raised the possibility that Dance’s statement might be a fabrication, and news reports that relied on it might be wrong.

Unable to reach family members and lacking further confirmation, some news organizations, including The Washington Post, withheld their Crosby stories.

The New York Times finally published the news around 7 p.m., more than two hours after Variety’s story. The Times relied on an unusual source for confirmation — Patricia Dance, the sister of Crosby’s wife. The Times reported that Patricia Dance had said via text that Crosby had died “last night” but that she “provided no other details.”

Minutes later, the Associated Press, which provides news to thousands of other news organizations, conspicuously hedged. The wire service published an updated obituary that attributed the news — originally sourced to Crosby’s wife — to reporting by “several media outlets,” including the Times.

It added: “The Associated Press was not able to confirm Crosby’s death despite calls and messages to multiple representatives and Crosby’s widow.”

After the Times published its story Thursday night, a Post reporter reached Crosby’s sister-in-law. She declined to confirm the death.

The Post’s news story appeared online at 8:37 p.m., nearly four hours after Variety had reported the story. The newspaper’s obituary editor, Adam Bernstein, had finally reached a former publicist for Crosby, who cited family members in confirming the news.

The Wall Street Journal published its story more than three hours later. It cited “people close to Mr. Crosby,” and detailed the complications involved in pinning down corroboration.

As of Friday afternoon, it was still not clear that any news organization had reached Crosby’s wife to confirm his death.

birdistheword, Friday, 20 January 2023 20:53 (two weeks ago) link

Saw this newish track mentioned in STErlewine's newsletter, never heard of it before. It's a co-write with Donald Fagen, and very nice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s4g9PhYthU

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 20 January 2023 21:11 (two weeks ago) link

so weird. “J Bickerton” is one of those names that just sounds fake.

Karl Malone, Friday, 20 January 2023 21:40 (two weeks ago) link

Sounds perfectly cromulent to me.

birdistheword, Friday, 20 January 2023 21:54 (two weeks ago) link

i think i'm just immediately thinking J Peterman

Karl Malone, Friday, 20 January 2023 22:01 (two weeks ago) link

From Mark Wakefield on Facebook:

So sad to read of David Crosby's death. We lived in Summit, New Jersey in the 80's. One day I was driving down the main street in town and saw Crosby standing on the sidewalk. I pulled over to go back and tell him I was a huge fan, only to see him jump in a car and drive off. Turns out he was in Summit on a court-mandated stay at the drug treatment hospital in town. The next day it was reported he had escaped from the treatment center the day before. I figure I was the last one in town to see him before he went on the lam. My near brush with greatness!

birdistheword, Friday, 20 January 2023 22:40 (two weeks ago) link

hmm if that link doesn't work try this one:

https://waynerobins49.substack.com/p/watching-david-crosby-relapse

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 20 January 2023 22:58 (two weeks ago) link

It worked for me. Great read, and yes he made the right call. Crosby paid it forward - he helped others clean up including Grace Slick in the late '90s (which may or may not be news, but it was in her statement after Crosby died).

birdistheword, Friday, 20 January 2023 23:24 (two weeks ago) link

^pvmic
(xpost)

The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 January 2023 23:25 (two weeks ago) link

wow that link is heartbreaking, speaking as a recovering addict I have had exactly that same embarrassed, confused, tearful breakdown after using and trying to go right back to normal life

I would love to read more about the paying it forward part if anyone's got other links, that he did that also shows a good grasp of recovery

sleeve, Friday, 20 January 2023 23:40 (two weeks ago) link

At their Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction, he let Byrd Michael Clarke know that he would support his rehab if he wanted to go, but Clarke demurred.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 20 January 2023 23:58 (two weeks ago) link

Ugh

The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 January 2023 00:00 (two weeks ago) link

FWIW, this is Grace Slick's post:

"25 years ago, David took me to rehab and saved my life - I wish I could have saved his this time. I will miss his humor, his intelligence, and his deep body of work." -Grace Slick

https://www.instagram.com/p/CnngRlqI1kn/?hl=en

birdistheword, Saturday, 21 January 2023 00:25 (two weeks ago) link

FWIW, the Washington Post published a story on the confusion over whether he died:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/01/20/david-crosby-obituaries-variety-confusion🕸/


So … alive?

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 21 January 2023 01:26 (two weeks ago) link

It's all so weird, why did Yahoo Finance or whoever run the story in the first place, and how did the story even get to them, well before all the usual suspects?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 January 2023 01:37 (two weeks ago) link

BTW Josh, you’re right, that “Long Time Gone” with Tom Jones and Stills wailing and banging the fuck out of an organ is completely wild.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 21 January 2023 01:53 (two weeks ago) link

Totally wild. Maybe even totally wired.

The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 January 2023 02:03 (two weeks ago) link

xxp I asked my buddy who works at Yahoo!; he agreed it was super weird.

Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Saturday, 21 January 2023 04:11 (two weeks ago) link

it's the wild west over at !Finance though

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 January 2023 04:28 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpkELuj6kn4
is the same set that was p0layed on BBC4 last night so may be up in pristine form on i-player.
Crosby's sense of humour appears to be an acquired taste

Stevolende, Saturday, 21 January 2023 12:09 (two weeks ago) link

it's the wild west over at !Finance though

Almost a "Cowboy Movie"

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 22 January 2023 19:01 (two weeks ago) link

croz marathon this morning. started off with if i could only remember and continuing with the nash collaboration albums. if one wanted to compile a "second" croz solo lp from the early 70s, you probably could with his cuts from various places from 72-76. it wouldn't be anywhere near as sprawling and airy as name, but certainly would scratch that itch. "where will i be?"—>"page 43" is about as alltime as it gets. also: songs about whales. nice. i may make a playlist.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:00 (two weeks ago) link

Some of his 2010s work is pretty good too

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:03 (two weeks ago) link

I am now regretting not checking out those Crosby-Nash records when they were like $2

sleeve, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:37 (two weeks ago) link

they're okay. first one's the best and it's on streaming. you're not missing much, but the live ones are fun (+both have "lee shore" in vastly different versions; cool croz nerdery).

sry to butt in. i don't remember if i kept mine. i mean, they're okay and there's tons of copies out there. i hope people aren't gouging, yeesh.

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:21 (two weeks ago) link

well to be fair, they were $2 like 15 years ago, no gouging sighted as of yet

sleeve, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:45 (two weeks ago) link

It's all so weird, why did Yahoo Finance or whoever run the story in the first place, and how did the story even get to them, well before all the usual suspects?


Yahoo Finance ran it (automatically?) from a press release that his wife put out via a press release site: https://newsdirect.com/news/legendary-musician-husband-father-and-friend-david-crosby-passes-away-475391322

Alba, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:07 (two weeks ago) link

Usual suspects then scrambled to confirm the provenance of the press release as no one trusted that newsdirect.com was a site that had guards against being spoofed.

Alba, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:10 (two weeks ago) link

Sorry - didn't realise much of that was in the Post article already linked. But yeah, Yahoo Finance is used to churning out press releases from sites like newsdirect, which are usually things like company finance announcements.

Alba, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:21 (two weeks ago) link

I am now regretting not checking out those Crosby-Nash records when they were like $2

I get a sharp stabbing pain every time my thoughts turn in this direction.

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 22:09 (two weeks ago) link

It seems Crosby was working on a new record and was actually rehearsing the material the week before he died: https://www.nme.com/news/music/david-crosby-was-working-on-a-new-album-when-he-died-3385083

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 13:29 (one week ago) link

I try not to think about how much records used to cost--that's a whole thread topic in itself

a (waterface), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 13:32 (one week ago) link

for clemenza - the definition of a schooner is a sailboat with two masts, where the one in the back is taller than the one in the front.

Distinct from a ketch or yawl (other two-masted sailboats, distinguished from one another by the relative size and position of the masts).

is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 14:16 (one week ago) link

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nGIDa0Axz_cKWr05Ev-9X7VG_xqk49EDA&feature=share

I feel a contemporary vibe here

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 03:07 (six days ago) link


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