The Miracle of the Smiths

"Yes, I'm THAT good."

(Actually, regular reader/sometime poster Melinda Mess-Injure is going to be presenting at this!)

Yes they were a miracle.

I'm gonna have to kick your arses in a minute with Smiths talk. Just warning you.

"The death of a disco dancer
Well, it happens a lot 'round here
And if you think Peace
Is a common goal
That goes to show
How little you know

The death of a disco dancer
Well, I'd rather not get involved
I never talk to my neighbour
I'd rather not get involved "

Prescient, yes?

Just read this thread, really quite something, anyway there's a couple of question I would like to ask relating to the issues raised in this thread, there is talk of Morrissey and The Smith's "legacy". I was wondering how peoples view had changed taking into account his perhaps nostalgia based comeback and obviously Smiths / Moz indebted yet achingly conservative bands reclaiming the indie / NME world. There's a notion put forward here that provincial Britain as Moz understood no longer exists but these bands seem like a studied attempt to speak to / about provincial Britain in the way Moz did. Though The Libertines who I am thinking of her got derailed by their own myth pretty quickly without bring anything particularly interesting to the table. Whilst perhaps someone like The Streets does talk about provincial Britain in a way that doesn't reek of conservative nostalgia though of course it could be argued he is part of a very different tradition and a completely different vision of Britain. The lyrics of many You Are The Quarry songs suggest that Britain no longer exists for Morrissey as anything but memory and pastiche (Come Back To Camden, Irish Blood, English Heart)? But was it ever anything but that? This is reminding me of the thread on Bob Dylan if Dylan is the link between two eras is Morrissey a sort of link between two significantly different epochs of British cultural history, from mining to malls or something. From tin mines to Tescos? Corner shops to Co-Op?
― elwisty (elwisty), Saturday, 19 February 2005 19:06 (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^so glad this guy stopped posting

elwisty a villa fan by any chance?

It's the other one, but I get them confused all the time as well tbh.

the miracle of this thread. best ilm thread ever?

One of those great old threads where I look through it years later hoping, "Man, I hope I didn't say something really stupid during this terrific discussion." And I didn't say anything at all, thankfully.

TBH I only recently started watching footage of early Smiths concerts. It is kind of incredible that this man was a pop star:

Not even like charmingly Michael Stipe-ish geekiness.

(Like, speaking as someone who's pretty awkward and unco-ordinated but harbours no ambitions to pop stardom.)

Just academic stardom.

This thread was also amazingly self-renewing -- it had Nabisco, Dr C and Carmody writing great screeds early on, but years later the marvellous Mary could still pop up and write an even bigger one.

I think elwisty got the return and ? keys on his computer confused.

lol aspergers

lol you're a dick

Heads up -- from the folks who brought you the New Order/Joy Division Recycle blog:

http://smithsrecycle.blogspot.com/

:D

Thanks, Ned.

kewl

Bookmarked!

Stoked for this.

Hope some fans pick up the idea and do this for The Cure too.

I know it's in bad taste to go "OMG this thread is so good!!!"

But yeah, OMG this thread is so good!!!

It is good! (today's stinking it up a bit, though)

Aw.

it was my emoticon, wasn't it ... :(

Still no Smiths action figures...

Sorry Ned, now I feel bad.

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2009/1/30/17/morrissey-almost-nude-23290-1233354574-13.jpg
shit just got real

actually wait a second, what is andy cairns from therapy and that guy from sum 41 doing in mozza's band?

nooooooooooooo

you know I looked at the name of that URL and still I thought it was going to be of action figures

As for "having a car with *'only'* a tape deck"... jeez. That's what I call living in the World's Only Remaining Superpower.

I still think of this post, often, when driving

in case you missed this:

Search and Destroy : New Order

umm, i missed it, but that is one of the most amazing album covers i've ever seen. please let that be real.

To re-revive:

http://smithsrecycle.blogspot.com/2010/10/updatey-ness.html

Don't like the sound of Wnr Br0$ shutting their blog down. Surely they'd have bigger fish to fry.. ah well let's hope so.

Meanwhile there's a brilliant How To Buy The Smiths article right at the back of MOJO December issue which just came out in the uk. It goes for Hatful.. as the best album, as voted for by writers and members of MOJO forum. I concur!

Heads up, folks. It's started:

http://smithsrecycle.blogspot.com/2010/10/etaatb-01-rt131-hand-in-glove.html

didn't really 'get' the smiths until recently - this will be a good way back in. cheers!

i can see just from the first blog post that i'll be learning a few things here. and there was me fancying myself as some kind of Smiths expert!
what was Brixton Ace i wonder? never heard of it before.

this is going to be fun, those cover scans are incredible.

update!

http://smithsrecycle.blogspot.com/2010/10/etaatb-02-rtt136a-reel-around-fountain.html

well i didn't think it possible to make the smiths interesting in 2010, but here we are

hand in glove was amazing, thanks for posting the updates about this...would have had no idea.

shocked by how excited I am for this

had no idea about a planned RATF single. Jeane was always a brilliant song. one of the few lesser known B sides thanks to it's exclusion from the 80's era compilations.