John Cale S/D

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I've just discovered a treasure-chest of John Cale LPs at the local secondhand dealer. They're all quite cheap, but I need help deciding which ones to get (getting all of them isn't out of the question either). They've got 'Slow Dazzle', 'Music For A New Society', 'Artificial Intelligence', 'Honi Soit', and 'Caribbean Sunset'. Of course, I don't want to limit the S/D to just these albums -am seeking a general Cale S/D.


cnwb (cnwb), Monday, 12 January 2004 04:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Out of that batch, I'd grab Slow Dazzle and Honi Soit. Then look elsewhere for Vintage Violence and, most importantly, Paris 1919.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Slow Dazzle and Music for a New Society are two of Cale´s best. Honi Soit has a couple of great tracks (i.e.dead or alive, Wilson Joilet), but the rest is average.

Hernan, Monday, 12 January 2004 05:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Also find Fear somewhere. BTW, there's already a Cale S/D somewhere.

nickn (nickn), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:05 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Carribean Sunset isn't his greatest, but it's definitely unfairly maligned...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I searched for a Cale S/D before posting my request, but couldn't find one. Apologies if there's already one which I didn't find.

cnwb (cnwb), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

also his album with Terry Riley "Church of Anthrax" is super duper fab. almost all funky, minimalist instrumentals.

Vintage Violence is my fave.

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Fear is my favorite Cale album -- that and the Animal Justice ep.

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 12 January 2004 07:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, the Animal Justice EP. CHICKENSHIT!!!

nickn (nickn), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Has anyone heard the newest one? As with most Cale albums, I didn't expect it to be very good, and then it was.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

His live album, "Fragments of a Rainy Season, is wonderful. I would love to hear him live. It's very stripped down and minimal, mostly just him accompanying himself on piano, yet very strong.

And of course there is "Songs for Drella."

Mary (Mary), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

But this is still the best.

x-post... OTM

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Paris 1919: lots of nice, gentle folkly numbers, plus the stomping glamrock behemoth that is 'Macbeth'

bham, Monday, 12 January 2004 09:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Kenan's absolutely right about Mr Cale's latest one.

I'm not at all familiar with his other albums (the only other thing of his I've got is the "Seducing Down The Door" comp.) but I think "Hobo Sapiens" is wonderful - and it's making me want to explore the rest of his back catalogue further - I was thinking I'd probably start with either "Paris 1919" or "The Island Years"

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 12 January 2004 10:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Paris 1919, Music for a New Society and Fragments of a Lonely Season seconded. Then there's a great low-priced double cd comprising all 3 albums he made on Island (Fear, Slow Dazzle & Helen of Troy). I also have Carribean Sunset which I like quite a lot. Certainly not as strong an album as the others but I find opener "Hungry for Love" sublime.

I've been meaning to pick up Hobosapiens but haven't just yet, the 5 Tracks ep which came out a few months earlier is great though and if that's a taster of what the album will be like then it should be great.

x-post: The Island Years is the double album I mentioned.

willem (willem), Monday, 12 January 2004 10:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Paris 1919, Music for a New Society - two of the greatest albums ever released by anyone, anywhere

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Church of Anthrax seconded!

This is actually the only Cale album I own. Did he ever do any other records like this one?

M Carty (mj_c), Monday, 12 January 2004 13:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

To reiterate bham, the best first port of call is Fragments of a Rainy season. It's a good cross section of his songs done as simply as you could possibly want them. Personally I can't get over the hamball 70's production on a lot of the proper albums, so I tend to go for the Fragments versions.

Paris 1919 is probably the next best to approach, it's gentle and accesible. Somehow I think it's nice to get this one in before going to Church of Anthrax / New Society, which if you heard them completely out-of-the-blue would sound like the flailing piss of a coked-up bag of bellybooze. Which they are. The secret is to learn to love the bag, and that takes a while.

The 80's ones, Carribean Sunset in particular, are shit. Think about it. It's a solo album from a 60's guy in the 80's called Carribean Sunset. More than any of the one's that were mentioned up to go for Fear next. It's got a fairly decent mix of material and the 70's bar-rock boogie is at it's least annoying. Slow Dazzle has it's highlights, as has Honi Soit.

Hobosapiens I still can't get into for some reason. It sounds like your old Geography teacher berating you from the next room about subways and somesuch. I'll reserve my opinion of that as I haven't quite listened to it enough yet.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yeh, the new one is not bad.
"Wrong Way Up" with Eno is a good one.

S: Fear; Slow Dazzle: Guts; Paris 1919. (Fear, Slow Dazzle, Helen of Troy, and a few singles were reissued on a twofer called "The Warner Bros. Years" a while back, and it's the way to go.) Paris 1919 is very good indeed but I think "Slow Dazzle" is the greatest John Cale record, sort of brutalist Brian Wilson...

D: Vintage Violence (never liked it except for "Gideon's Bible"); all his '80s shit; all his '90s shit (I do like his last one but it's hardly essential).

I also have three CDs of his early noise stuff in NYC, nice room-clearing music but again hardly essential.

Honi Soit is an honorable attempt at a comeback around '81, and there are some nice moments, but by that time he had really started to lose his voice, and it sounds a bit stillborn. Worth getting for a few bucks.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

And in case you see them in the racks...

Sabotage & Even Cowgirls Get the Blues - Great for die-hard fans, but probably not for beginners.
John Cale is Alive - More accessible, but less good.

Walking on Locusts - I absolutely love this one, but no one else seemed to.

dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Vintage Violence is rub yes.

Mid 70s albums terrific, Animal Justice terrific (Hedda Gabler!!!!!), New Society terrific, most other stuff patchy, I am fond of Sabotage but never actually listen to it, Fragments is lovely but I get embarrassed listening to it for personal reasons, I would love to assert that Caribbean Sunset is good but I can't honestly remember anything about it, it's better than Artificial Intelligence though surely.

i.e. what everyone else said.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I didn't like Vintage Violence when I first got it (I expected a more VU-like approach) but I have grown to love it. If you like other stuff give this one a chance.

nickn (nickn), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Didn't notice Academy In Peril mentioned in this thread.
The reason i'm "mentioning" it m'self here is: said platter could be coming my way, remarkably cheapish too.
Haven't heard it, actually. But intend to pick it up anyway...

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Didn't notice Academy In Peril mentioned in this thread.

I was about to say. They need to fix the star ranking though!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 02:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

HA!! Checked that AMG entry only last night. And was greatly confused by the bizarro incongruo betwixt yer text and the meagreness of star power granted above it.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 02:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I love the tune on Caribbean Sunset with Cale shouting out the chord-changes to the band between lines. If ever you needed evidence that he wasn't particularly focused around that time...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I dunno, "Academy in Peril" isn't very compelling. Not terrible. Cale was so much better as a pop musician; I really love "Taking It All Away" and "Ski Patrol" and so forth. Chris Spedding is really good on guitar on the classic WB albums.

Christgau is right; the "Peril" track "Days of Steam" does remind of the Ernie Kovacs theme.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:52 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Agreed about Academy, but you mean the Island records, eddie. Plus, according to the bang-up job Island did on the reissue of Slow Dazzle, it's "Talking it All Away." Idiots.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I listened to "23 Solo Pieces for La Naissance de L'Amour" last night. I really couldn't tell the difference between it and a Wyndham Hill record on most of the songs... It was far too "pleasant"

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:18 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm shocked that Tom doesn't dig 'Vintage Violence' - it's pure pop!

Yeah that 'Island' comp really is terrific - all the hits and none of the shit (well, some) - glad someone mentioned 'Ski Patrol', a real fave of mine

Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 20:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i'm a "search: all" kinda guy (i did!).

Sabotage really is a fantastic noise thing on the rock-meets-avant-jazz tip.

Artificial Intelligence is getting way underrated here as pretty-pop.

But orchestral cale hits his peak, as far as i'm concerned, with "words for the dying" which is one of the few where the studio recorded versions so clearly top the fragments... versions.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 00:54 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, I really need to get Hobosapians.

I saw him live in a very small bar like 4-5 years ago, and it was wonderful. A lot like the Fragments of rainy day CD. All he had was a piano and acoustic guitar on some songs and vocals.

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 05:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

My favorites of his is his collaberations: from the velvet underground albums to "church of anthrax" and "wrong way up" and "songs for drella" and the stuff with tony conrad and la monte young. Also his work with Nico and Nick Drake. Also his one song on Hector Zazou's "Songs of the cold Seas"

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 05:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

with the patti smith band covering "my generation"!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 06:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
the ovation network is running an excellent cale documentary that's making me want to dig out EVERYTHING i own that the man has been involved with. starting with the marble index.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That doc is a staple of the ovation channel. I watched it about five times summer of last year- by the end I felt like I understood Welsh.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ha, they're showing footage from a show i was at!

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i wish i understood welsh!

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The bbc has some pretty good stuff online.

Did you see yourself in the audience?

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

they didn't show the audience, silly. they did show the knitting factory banner.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what is the ovation network? where can I see this?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

it's in the bravo/a&e vein of highbrow arts programming.

http://www.ovationtv.com/

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what actually roped me in right before the cale thing aired was

Hail Bop! –
Whereas the ’80s were fraught with gauche displays of wealth and “conspicuous consumption,” the ’90s fashion houses and museums have made a political statement by shifting toward the pared-down simplicity which has defined the decade. Composer John Adams makes political statements through his work as well, from controversial operas, such as Nixon in China and The Death of Klinghoffer (which deals with the hijacking of the Achille Lauro), to electronic compositions and sometimes minimalist modern orchestrations, still largely considered avant garde by classical music purists. Filmmaker Tony Palmer profiles Adams as he premieres two works commissioned in commemoration of his fiftieth birthday: Gnarly Buttons and Slonimsky’s Earbox.

Next Showing:
Wednesday, November 23 2:00 AM EST

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

If you want to learn a few words of John Cale's mother tongue, here is a link

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

What's Welsh For Zen is excellent.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It is. I don't know what I did with my copy. I should have bought another when I saw it at the Strand.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I love Wrong Way Up

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I loved it at the time - I mean I was excited that Cale & Eno were collaborating (again for the first time)... But I've become less enthusiastic about it over the years. Is the reissue much different? I think the production of the original release may in fact be what I don't like about it.

I'm surprised how many people have cited Honi Soit. I love that record, even as weak as it is.

I recently watched the Drella video on the big screen again .. still fantastic... and the Cale songs are superior, but maybe that's just me being a little sick of Lour Reed.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Lou, lol, roffle.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Here's a review of Wrong Way Up: http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=1251

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Awesome, thanks

albvivertine, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 20:48 (one year ago) Permalink

nice child's christmas in wales cover on that blog too!

niels, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 07:08 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

eyewitness testimony:
John Cale, who turned 75 in March, used his two programs at the Brooklyn Academy of Music last week to look back at half a century and to stare unblinkingly into the future.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/19/arts/music/john-cale-velvet-underground-bam-live.html?smid=tw-nytimesarts&smtyp=cur

dow, Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:00 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.bam.org/media/9577216/john-cale-b-2000x762.jpg

dow, Sunday, 19 November 2017 21:11 (one year ago) Permalink

I was up in NY and went to the Friday program-- Cale and indie-rockers doing an out of order 50th anniversary tribute to The Velvet Underground & Nico album, plus a few more songs. Cale sounded good instrumentally and on vocals, although he barely talked between songs and never introduced bandmembers or guests. I was underwhelmed with the band that included Deantoni Parks from Mars Volta on drums. Guitarist Kurt Vile added appropriately noisy stringwork on “Run Run Run,” and singer Caroline Polachek who was in a group called Chairlift was impressive on “Sunday Morning.” Not so good were Sky Ferreria (she sounded nervous and did a rushed,alternate melody for "I'll Be Your Mirror"...Will Hermes in his Rolling Stone review was underwhelmed too).
Animal Collective, and MGMT did not seem like they belonged up there, and Tunde from TV on the Radio did not wow on his vocals on "Heroin." There was a string section on some songs, nice old-school and psychedelic backing visuals, and a closing rendition of “Sister Ray” with everyone onstage adding to the cacophony.

#kurtvile & #chairlift singer #carolinepolachek sounded good. Better than #mgmt & #animalcollective . Everyone was onstage for closing #sisterray .

curmudgeon, Monday, 20 November 2017 05:32 (one year ago) Permalink

haha what's with the hashtags?

sounds like a nice evening all in all

niels, Monday, 20 November 2017 07:09 (one year ago) Permalink

Oops, mistakenly cut and pasted something from my Instagram. I was happy seeing Cale sing and play despite the flaws. A friend, on the other hand, grumbled that the flaws ruined it for him-- He wanted a better band and guests, plus Cale to talk in detail between songs about their history and to acknowledge the audience and the guests with more than just hand gestures. Last year I saw part of an outdoors at Lincoln Center tribute to Lou Reed that Yo La Tengo, Don Fleming , Lenny Kaye and others who seemed much better choices to play VU music. Other than Vile and Polachek, most of the guests with Cale did not seem like the right choices (nervously reading music and altering VU instrumentation and melodies in ways that did not work).

curmudgeon, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:03 (one year ago) Permalink

with Yo La Tengo not "that"

curmudgeon, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:06 (one year ago) Permalink

His show of solo material on Saturday was largely wonderful. I kind of knew the VU stuff would be problematic, and decided to skip it. I've heard their songs enough in my life. The new Cale songs, full of samples and noise, largely eclipsed the scattered straight classics that he played. I enjoyed Fear is a Man's Best Briend, but it still sounded like an exercise in nostalgia, where the new tracks were often pretty amazing. Cale walks with some difficulty, but sings and plays strongly. There was something going on with color stains on the musicians' clothing that was hard to follow. But yes, without having seen the first two shows, I'm very happy that I picked the third. Very little talk. He ended with 3 new songs, all of which were extremely good, and the concert ended on a high note. Version of Hedda Gabler was something I won't forget, nor new song Hatred.

nellg, Monday, 20 November 2017 18:31 (one year ago) Permalink

Hope the solo material shows up on youtube. I saw most of the Lincoln Center VU/Lou tribute streaming live and free somewhere---we discussed it on some other thread---and yeah it was great, cool, powerful, expert, even witty (one of my faves was the Three Mile Island version of "Disco Mystic," with Day-Glo Afro wig girls singing the title and waving protest signs emblazoned with it). Laurie pitched in a couple times too, on her violin, and I suspect she curated (not usually big on that word, but deserved here).

dow, Monday, 20 November 2017 19:16 (one year ago) Permalink

Has she ever worked with Cale?

dow, Monday, 20 November 2017 19:18 (one year ago) Permalink

good q, don't think so.

sleeve, Monday, 20 November 2017 19:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Laurie Anderson and Hal Willner curated the Lincoln Center Tribute to Lou thing together, and production of the outdoor event was handled by Don Fleming (per Will Hermes review of that Aug. 2016 event in Rolling Stone).

Not sure how Cale ended up with the folks he performed with at Brooklyn Academy of Music over the weekend

curmudgeon, Monday, 20 November 2017 19:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Avey Tare of Animal Collective's sister does his live visuals. May be a connection there.

dan selzer, Monday, 20 November 2017 20:48 (one year ago) Permalink

heard something about cale playing on an upcoming Animal Collective release too.

tylerw, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:20 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I recently found myself having a conversation with a young person who was a real music enthusiast and the conversation came around to VU and I said that I am a John Cale partisan and he was like really? More than Lou? And then I asked if he had ever heard JC's solo stuff and he hadn't. How envious I was of him at that moment! He gets to discover so many great songs and albums and JC's sense of humor and romantic side and angry side and everything that is great about John Cale.

Since then, I have gone on a major JC bender and it feels so good. Oh, and the conversation happened to be on John Cale's birthday, this past Saturday!! He is the best. I want to play a set of JC solo covers like reeeeeal bad :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:33 (two months ago) Permalink

nice! John Cale is definitely the best. He's on instagram now, too! https://www.instagram.com/therealjohncale/

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:35 (two months ago) Permalink

ooh! followed immediately
i really would like to play a set of covers -- i've never seen anyone else do that and i would enjoy both hearing it and playing it. i'm already prepared! come at me, interested parties.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:38 (two months ago) Permalink

you + me + cordoba?

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:46 (two months ago) Permalink

i'd be interested if i was anywhere nearby. john cale songs are fun to learn — mostly pretty simple, but with a bunch of cool twists. child's christmas in wales is a blast to figure out on piano.

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:49 (two months ago) Permalink

speaking of cale covers, i had forgotten about this one til last week:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfFkg-rDlFY

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:50 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't know of a cover set having been done, but related to that, this site seems to do a reasonably good job at keeping track of cover versions of Cale songs.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:50 (two months ago) Permalink

i retain a deep love for the soft boys' cover of cale's cover of heartbreak hotel

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Wait, David Sylvian covered "Hanky Panky Nohow"? I'll believe it when I hear it.

Has there really been no notable covers of "Dying on the Vine"? Shame, that.

doug watson, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:10 (two months ago) Permalink

I've played, "Child's Christmas", "Buffalo Ballet", "Gun" and "Heartbreak Hotel" live, fwiw.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Yes, his songs are gratifying simple and easy to learn. For the most part.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:53 (two months ago) Permalink

more people in the 70s should've been covering Cale ... like why didn't Sandy Denny sing "Buffalo Ballet" or something?

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 15:56 (two months ago) Permalink

his lyrics are so good too -- i don't feel apprehensive about singing most of them, at least the songs i like the best. aside from neil young, i can't think of a single other old man whose songs feel as comfortable for me to sing, not only because the lyrics are frequently abstract, unexpected, lighthearted AND heavy, and not dripping with misogyny but also probably from many years of practice lol

i doubt i have what it takes to get the job done, but i would love to organize a john cale tribute album!! has there been one of those?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:21 (two months ago) Permalink

good question, I don't think so!

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:27 (two months ago) Permalink

strange but yeah, i don't know if there has been a cale tribute album. seems like something that would've happened circa 1998.

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:35 (two months ago) Permalink

ha, totally

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Sally Timms did a good "Half Past France," as best I recall (mid-90s). Yall post your covers!

dow, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:53 (two months ago) Permalink

may have posted this before, but here's one my buddy and i did a little while back -- it came out OK!

https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/19004648939/childs-christmas-in-wales-john-cale-john

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:55 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm just gonna rep once more for the outstanding collection of unreleased Cale songs that Tyler has hosted on his blog - tracklisting upthread.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 20:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Awright Tyler Songster!

dow, Thursday, 14 March 2019 00:43 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Oh yeah---recently on Little Feat - S&D, C/D

How did you wind up getting Lowell George, Bill Payne and Richie Hayward of Little Feat to play on Paris 1919 ?
I loved that album
Dixie Chicken. That tone on [George’s] guitar was very sweet. It was the grooves that he had. And after playing me an early cut of that record, Ted Templeman at Warner Bros. said to me: “Why don’t you use Little Feat as a backup band for Paris ?” He organized it.
one of lots of good tidbits here: https://relix.com/articles/detail/the-shifty-adventures-of-john-cale/
Somewhere else JC mentioned that Wilton Felder, who played bass w the Feats on this occasion (in a studio line-up billed as Penguin), read or at least had the Bible on his music stand during the sessions.

Interesting take on post-VU Sterling too.

dow, Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:25 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I felt like such a nerd or geek for finally clawing at the Reprise/Rhino UK reissue of Paris 1919, with all those alt versions---well the prev. unreleased "Burnt-Out Affair" may have tipped the scales---tried to cancel the order, but sure glad I failed. "Affair" is a somewhat countryoid gothic waltz, closer to Vintage Violence musically, as Matthew Spektor's occasionally too-hip booklet notes point out, though he's also right that the lyrics (and vocal) fit right into this album proper; he even hears it as a kind secret key track, at least the way it shifted, maybe sharpened the focus of the whole project.
Dunno if he's right about that one song, but for me, all of these basic combo and solo versions bring the songs closer, with JC's voice first among equals: "Child's Christmas" with insistent acoustic strumming and I never knew he could play organ like this; here's a family of two (well more counting the voice and the people, places, things he's singing about). Drone Mix of "Hanky Panky No How" has folk-based viola, maybe with a little violin added to the chorus. "Endless Plain of Fortune" the combo coming off well in very non-Little Feat x Jazz Crusaders mode, "Andalucia" a finger-picking picnic, with just the right slide and bass notes, more closet-folkie Velvets than ever. "Macbeth" still rawks hawtly, with and without vocals (inst. is one of the hidden tracks). Sinister grooving strings on one alt mix of title track prove to be children of his piano on another, also lovely voice & keys alone on "Half Past France" and "Antarctica Starts Here."
The orchestrations sometimes seem like they're going to overload my decidedly sub-audiophile headphones and boombox---they don't, but it's good to have the other versions too.

dow, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 22:49 (one month ago) Permalink

Don, when is your book coming out?

Theory of Every Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 23:10 (one month ago) Permalink

wait what book?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 23:16 (one month ago) Permalink

No pressure;)

Theory of Every Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 23:21 (one month ago) Permalink

Ha, thanks again James!

dow, Thursday, 18 April 2019 01:15 (one month ago) Permalink

Not to be that guy but I really didn’t like the sound on the expanded Paris 1919 & ended up going back to the 90s CD

Yes- what book?

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 April 2019 01:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Good question! I'll check the 90s CD too, wouldn't hurt to hear another shot at those orchestrations. Amazon has a series of remasters incl. Fear, Academy in Peril, Helen of Troy, and Slow Dazzle---the last two aren't on Spotify, sooo (or I could just buy a new record player and listen to my old records).

dow, Thursday, 18 April 2019 01:44 (one month ago) Permalink

(But I couldn't afford a record player better than my CD boombox.)

dow, Thursday, 18 April 2019 01:46 (one month ago) Permalink

The Island Years is on Spotify. It has everything from Fear, H.O.T, and Slow Dazzle plus rare & unreleased stuff.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 April 2019 03:53 (one month ago) Permalink

^^ if you're only gonna own one Cale set, that's the one

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 18 April 2019 14:03 (one month ago) Permalink

Thanks yall! Speaking of covers, Wiki sez:
Songs from Paris 1919 have been covered by such notable musicians as Yo La Tengo, Manic Street Preachers frontman James Dean Bradfield, Owen Pallett, the Dave Soldier String Quartet, Love and Rockets' David J, Okkervil River, Jay Bennett and Edward Burch, and Sally Timms.[21]

dow, Monday, 22 April 2019 02:23 (one month ago) Permalink

John Cale will be performing at Levitation fest in Austin on Nov 9!

not in love with the idea of seeing him at a festival but the lineup does look pretty great even if i have seen a number of the bands before

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:39 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Intriguing! Think you might go? Please report back if you do.
Okay, (Jon Not Jon) and that guy on Amazon, I agree that the 90s Warner Archives Paris 1919 does seem to sound better than Rhino UK---which is still worth having for "Burnt-Out Affair" and the forceful clarity of unorchestrated alt takes.

dow, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 22:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

it's not til november -- anything can happen i guess! i'm definitely not NOT going!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 22:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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