John Cale S/D

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I've just discovered a treasure-chest of John Cale LPs at the local secondhand dealer. They're all quite cheap, but I need help deciding which ones to get (getting all of them isn't out of the question either). They've got 'Slow Dazzle', 'Music For A New Society', 'Artificial Intelligence', 'Honi Soit', and 'Caribbean Sunset'. Of course, I don't want to limit the S/D to just these albums -am seeking a general Cale S/D.


cnwb (cnwb), Monday, 12 January 2004 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Out of that batch, I'd grab Slow Dazzle and Honi Soit. Then look elsewhere for Vintage Violence and, most importantly, Paris 1919.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Slow Dazzle and Music for a New Society are two of Cale´s best. Honi Soit has a couple of great tracks (i.e.dead or alive, Wilson Joilet), but the rest is average.

Hernan, Monday, 12 January 2004 05:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Also find Fear somewhere. BTW, there's already a Cale S/D somewhere.

nickn (nickn), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Carribean Sunset isn't his greatest, but it's definitely unfairly maligned...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I searched for a Cale S/D before posting my request, but couldn't find one. Apologies if there's already one which I didn't find.

cnwb (cnwb), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link

also his album with Terry Riley "Church of Anthrax" is super duper fab. almost all funky, minimalist instrumentals.

Vintage Violence is my fave.

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Fear is my favorite Cale album -- that and the Animal Justice ep.

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 12 January 2004 07:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, the Animal Justice EP. CHICKENSHIT!!!

nickn (nickn), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Has anyone heard the newest one? As with most Cale albums, I didn't expect it to be very good, and then it was.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:09 (eighteen years ago) link

His live album, "Fragments of a Rainy Season, is wonderful. I would love to hear him live. It's very stripped down and minimal, mostly just him accompanying himself on piano, yet very strong.

And of course there is "Songs for Drella."

Mary (Mary), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

But this is still the best.

x-post... OTM

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Paris 1919: lots of nice, gentle folkly numbers, plus the stomping glamrock behemoth that is 'Macbeth'

bham, Monday, 12 January 2004 09:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Kenan's absolutely right about Mr Cale's latest one.

I'm not at all familiar with his other albums (the only other thing of his I've got is the "Seducing Down The Door" comp.) but I think "Hobo Sapiens" is wonderful - and it's making me want to explore the rest of his back catalogue further - I was thinking I'd probably start with either "Paris 1919" or "The Island Years"

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 12 January 2004 10:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Paris 1919, Music for a New Society and Fragments of a Lonely Season seconded. Then there's a great low-priced double cd comprising all 3 albums he made on Island (Fear, Slow Dazzle & Helen of Troy). I also have Carribean Sunset which I like quite a lot. Certainly not as strong an album as the others but I find opener "Hungry for Love" sublime.

I've been meaning to pick up Hobosapiens but haven't just yet, the 5 Tracks ep which came out a few months earlier is great though and if that's a taster of what the album will be like then it should be great.

x-post: The Island Years is the double album I mentioned.

willem (willem), Monday, 12 January 2004 10:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Paris 1919, Music for a New Society - two of the greatest albums ever released by anyone, anywhere

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Church of Anthrax seconded!

This is actually the only Cale album I own. Did he ever do any other records like this one?

M Carty (mj_c), Monday, 12 January 2004 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

To reiterate bham, the best first port of call is Fragments of a Rainy season. It's a good cross section of his songs done as simply as you could possibly want them. Personally I can't get over the hamball 70's production on a lot of the proper albums, so I tend to go for the Fragments versions.

Paris 1919 is probably the next best to approach, it's gentle and accesible. Somehow I think it's nice to get this one in before going to Church of Anthrax / New Society, which if you heard them completely out-of-the-blue would sound like the flailing piss of a coked-up bag of bellybooze. Which they are. The secret is to learn to love the bag, and that takes a while.

The 80's ones, Carribean Sunset in particular, are shit. Think about it. It's a solo album from a 60's guy in the 80's called Carribean Sunset. More than any of the one's that were mentioned up to go for Fear next. It's got a fairly decent mix of material and the 70's bar-rock boogie is at it's least annoying. Slow Dazzle has it's highlights, as has Honi Soit.

Hobosapiens I still can't get into for some reason. It sounds like your old Geography teacher berating you from the next room about subways and somesuch. I'll reserve my opinion of that as I haven't quite listened to it enough yet.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeh, the new one is not bad.
"Wrong Way Up" with Eno is a good one.

S: Fear; Slow Dazzle: Guts; Paris 1919. (Fear, Slow Dazzle, Helen of Troy, and a few singles were reissued on a twofer called "The Warner Bros. Years" a while back, and it's the way to go.) Paris 1919 is very good indeed but I think "Slow Dazzle" is the greatest John Cale record, sort of brutalist Brian Wilson...

D: Vintage Violence (never liked it except for "Gideon's Bible"); all his '80s shit; all his '90s shit (I do like his last one but it's hardly essential).

I also have three CDs of his early noise stuff in NYC, nice room-clearing music but again hardly essential.

Honi Soit is an honorable attempt at a comeback around '81, and there are some nice moments, but by that time he had really started to lose his voice, and it sounds a bit stillborn. Worth getting for a few bucks.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

And in case you see them in the racks...

Sabotage & Even Cowgirls Get the Blues - Great for die-hard fans, but probably not for beginners.
John Cale is Alive - More accessible, but less good.

Walking on Locusts - I absolutely love this one, but no one else seemed to.

dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Vintage Violence is rub yes.

Mid 70s albums terrific, Animal Justice terrific (Hedda Gabler!!!!!), New Society terrific, most other stuff patchy, I am fond of Sabotage but never actually listen to it, Fragments is lovely but I get embarrassed listening to it for personal reasons, I would love to assert that Caribbean Sunset is good but I can't honestly remember anything about it, it's better than Artificial Intelligence though surely.

i.e. what everyone else said.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't like Vintage Violence when I first got it (I expected a more VU-like approach) but I have grown to love it. If you like other stuff give this one a chance.

nickn (nickn), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Didn't notice Academy In Peril mentioned in this thread.
The reason i'm "mentioning" it m'self here is: said platter could be coming my way, remarkably cheapish too.
Haven't heard it, actually. But intend to pick it up anyway...

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Didn't notice Academy In Peril mentioned in this thread.

I was about to say. They need to fix the star ranking though!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 02:00 (eighteen years ago) link

HA!! Checked that AMG entry only last night. And was greatly confused by the bizarro incongruo betwixt yer text and the meagreness of star power granted above it.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the tune on Caribbean Sunset with Cale shouting out the chord-changes to the band between lines. If ever you needed evidence that he wasn't particularly focused around that time...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I dunno, "Academy in Peril" isn't very compelling. Not terrible. Cale was so much better as a pop musician; I really love "Taking It All Away" and "Ski Patrol" and so forth. Chris Spedding is really good on guitar on the classic WB albums.

Christgau is right; the "Peril" track "Days of Steam" does remind of the Ernie Kovacs theme.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Agreed about Academy, but you mean the Island records, eddie. Plus, according to the bang-up job Island did on the reissue of Slow Dazzle, it's "Talking it All Away." Idiots.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I listened to "23 Solo Pieces for La Naissance de L'Amour" last night. I really couldn't tell the difference between it and a Wyndham Hill record on most of the songs... It was far too "pleasant"

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm shocked that Tom doesn't dig 'Vintage Violence' - it's pure pop!

Yeah that 'Island' comp really is terrific - all the hits and none of the shit (well, some) - glad someone mentioned 'Ski Patrol', a real fave of mine

Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm a "search: all" kinda guy (i did!).

Sabotage really is a fantastic noise thing on the rock-meets-avant-jazz tip.

Artificial Intelligence is getting way underrated here as pretty-pop.

But orchestral cale hits his peak, as far as i'm concerned, with "words for the dying" which is one of the few where the studio recorded versions so clearly top the fragments... versions.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 00:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I really need to get Hobosapians.

I saw him live in a very small bar like 4-5 years ago, and it was wonderful. A lot like the Fragments of rainy day CD. All he had was a piano and acoustic guitar on some songs and vocals.

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 05:08 (eighteen years ago) link

My favorites of his is his collaberations: from the velvet underground albums to "church of anthrax" and "wrong way up" and "songs for drella" and the stuff with tony conrad and la monte young. Also his work with Nico and Nick Drake. Also his one song on Hector Zazou's "Songs of the cold Seas"

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 05:21 (eighteen years ago) link

with the patti smith band covering "my generation"!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 06:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
the ovation network is running an excellent cale documentary that's making me want to dig out EVERYTHING i own that the man has been involved with. starting with the marble index.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link

That doc is a staple of the ovation channel. I watched it about five times summer of last year- by the end I felt like I understood Welsh.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:55 (sixteen years ago) link

ha, they're showing footage from a show i was at!

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i wish i understood welsh!

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:57 (sixteen years ago) link

The bbc has some pretty good stuff online.

Did you see yourself in the audience?

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:00 (sixteen years ago) link

they didn't show the audience, silly. they did show the knitting factory banner.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:05 (sixteen years ago) link

what is the ovation network? where can I see this?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:18 (sixteen years ago) link

it's in the bravo/a&e vein of highbrow arts programming.

http://www.ovationtv.com/

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

what actually roped me in right before the cale thing aired was

Hail Bop! –
Whereas the ’80s were fraught with gauche displays of wealth and “conspicuous consumption,” the ’90s fashion houses and museums have made a political statement by shifting toward the pared-down simplicity which has defined the decade. Composer John Adams makes political statements through his work as well, from controversial operas, such as Nixon in China and The Death of Klinghoffer (which deals with the hijacking of the Achille Lauro), to electronic compositions and sometimes minimalist modern orchestrations, still largely considered avant garde by classical music purists. Filmmaker Tony Palmer profiles Adams as he premieres two works commissioned in commemoration of his fiftieth birthday: Gnarly Buttons and Slonimsky’s Earbox.

Next Showing:
Wednesday, November 23 2:00 AM EST

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:25 (sixteen years ago) link

If you want to learn a few words of John Cale's mother tongue, here is a link

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

What's Welsh For Zen is excellent.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

It is. I don't know what I did with my copy. I should have bought another when I saw it at the Strand.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I love Wrong Way Up

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I loved it at the time - I mean I was excited that Cale & Eno were collaborating (again for the first time)... But I've become less enthusiastic about it over the years. Is the reissue much different? I think the production of the original release may in fact be what I don't like about it.

I'm surprised how many people have cited Honi Soit. I love that record, even as weak as it is.

I recently watched the Drella video on the big screen again .. still fantastic... and the Cale songs are superior, but maybe that's just me being a little sick of Lour Reed.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Lou, lol, roffle.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Here's a review of Wrong Way Up: http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=1251

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

"where he said the words "Velvet Underground" but it was more of a spoken word thing?"

could this be "style it takes"? but Cale's rendition on record is not spoken word…tho reed's songs on drella could be described accurately as such…

veronica moser, Monday, 27 January 2020 18:13 (two years ago) link

Hedda Gabler! Would love to see him again, it's been too long. Sounds like a great show, LL!

willem, Monday, 27 January 2020 18:16 (two years ago) link

omg did not realize he played that, my fave

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Monday, 27 January 2020 18:17 (two years ago) link

He was wearing a black suit that was half checkered/half plain black and his hair was fortunately all white. Dignified, but with a sense of humor. Easily the coolest dude of his generation!!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 27 January 2020 18:23 (two years ago) link

It was a great show. I appreciate that he still cares to put together a set that varied/not just lean back and play some hits. He has plenty of hits but he worked w this band to play this set and it showed. Well done!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 27 January 2020 18:24 (two years ago) link

"hits" = "crowd faves" in this context, not chart toppers :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 27 January 2020 18:26 (two years ago) link

also the tickets were extremely reasonably priced!! $25 for museum members/$35 for non-members

for 90+ min of JOHN CALE!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 27 January 2020 18:30 (two years ago) link

damn that sounds awesome, i'm more than a little jealous tbqf

ingredience (map), Monday, 27 January 2020 18:33 (two years ago) link

Set list looks interesting. Second tune and others are some of my personal hits.

TS: Kirk/Spock vs. Marat/Sade (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 January 2020 18:37 (two years ago) link

Oh the Gun/Pablo Picasso pastiche was exceptionally good.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 27 January 2020 18:47 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

From Jessica at PitchPerfectPR:

Kelly Lee Owens Collaborates With John Cale On “Corner Of My Sky”
https://kellyleeowens.lnk.to/cornerofmysky

Inner Song Out August 28th via Smalltown Supersound

Kelly Lee Owens...specializes in tracks that move between conventionally pretty songs and stark dance music that pushes everything but the beat to the background.”
- Wall Street Journal

“‘Melt!’ makes for both a club banger and a political comment, a dazzling dance macabre for impending environmental collapse.” - Pitchfork

“[‘On’ is] anything but simple, though, mutating from an angelic choral pop song to a sweaty bubbling beat over the course of five minutes.” - Stereogum

“Mesmeric techno deliverance from start to finish.” - FADER

Producer/musician Kelly Lee Owens collaborates with John Cale on a foreboding new single, “Corner Of My Sky (feat. John Cale)," from her forthcoming album Inner Song, out August 28th on Smalltown Supersound. The two Welsh artists first met in London while working on a song for Cale, which prompted a future collaboration for Inner Song. In “Corner Of My Sky,” Cale sings in both English and Welsh over Owens’ droning, psychedelic lullaby. The track follows a string of previously released singles and videos - “On,” “Night,” and “Melt!”

Cale comments, “It's not usually this immediate that a productive afternoon brings a satisfying conclusion to a task. Kelly sent me a track she'd written - an instrumental that was a gentle drift - something comfortably familiar to what I'd been working on myself. On the first listen, the lyrics came with ease and a chorus and melody grew out of it. Even the Welsh phrases seemed to develop from a place of reflective memory which was a surprise since I hadn't written in Welsh for decades. Once finished, I realized there existed a built-in thread we'd created together and apart - and her kind spirit pulled it all together and in quick order.”

Owens elaborates, “I knew with this album I needed to connect with my roots and therefore having the Welsh language featured on the record felt very important to me. Once the music for the track was written and the sounds were formed, I sent the track straight to John and asked if he could perhaps delve into his Welsh heritage and tell the story of the land via spoken-word, poetry and song. What he sent back was nothing short of phenomenal. The arrangement was done during the mixing process and once I’d finished the track, I cried - firstly feeling incredibly lucky to have collaborated with John and his eternal talent and secondly for both of us to have been able to connect to our homeland in this way.”

Inner Song is the follow-up to Owens’ self-titled debut, which was recognized as one of the most critically praised albums of 2017. Inner Song finds Owens diving deep into her own psyche—working through the struggles she's faced over the last several years while embracing the beauty of the natural world. Sonically, Inner Song’s hair-raising bass and tickling textures drive home that Owens is locked into delivering maximal aural pleasure, whether it be on a techno banger, a glimmering electro-pop number, or a Radiohead cover.

dow, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 23:20 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

it pains me to do this, but i was just listening through a "new release" playlist, and i have 2 questions:

1) is "lazy day" a real song by john cale or is this mislabeled?
2) is this the worst song of the year

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 October 2020 19:35 (one year ago) link

ok, the last 2 minutes is better and makes me think that yes, john cale is in there

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 October 2020 19:38 (one year ago) link

yeah that's, um... that's... wow. That's very bad.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 19 October 2020 19:57 (one year ago) link

I ... liked it. I’d rather hear him doing that than mellowing out.

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 19 October 2020 20:20 (one year ago) link

after hearing that im not sure he can get any more clinically mellow

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 19 October 2020 20:24 (one year ago) link

"Lazy Day" is his best tune in years.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 October 2020 20:59 (one year ago) link

I like it, reminds me of 5 songs era a bit with extra idgaf old dude swag

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Monday, 19 October 2020 21:17 (one year ago) link

i'm sorry, to be more specific: the part 29 seconds in, the first vocals "lazy day, lazy day", til about 40 seconds in.

that was what prompted me to post it. actually, not just that it happens, but that it repeats again at 57 seconds

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 October 2020 21:26 (one year ago) link

i do think it generally goes get better after a couple minutes into the song. there was just something gobsmacking about that first minute, having not heard any recent music of his

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 October 2020 21:27 (one year ago) link

generally *does

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 October 2020 21:27 (one year ago) link

I think this is actually pretty great? most times I've dipped into c21st John Cale I've been fairly unmoved, but this is cool

umsworth (emsworth), Monday, 19 October 2020 21:38 (one year ago) link

^^dir by Abby Portner who also dir'd:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln77F25hXVQ

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 19 October 2020 21:44 (one year ago) link

It sounds like Was (Not Was) covering "Blackstar"

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 19 October 2020 21:45 (one year ago) link

"Artificial Intelligence" is fuckin' great. Just discovered it this week after avoiding for years due to a bad rep. Had I known his band on this were The Faction (Nico's band on 1985's "Camera Obscura" - another longtime fave of mine) I would've listened sooner. Icy and bitter with a nice, yet not overwhelming, cokey sheen.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 12:53 (one year ago) link

Artificial Intelligence is certainly worth listening to, sort of the terminal stage of the "crazy man" phase of Cale's career. The sheen is sometimes better than the songs.

I'd have to properly judge a song like Lazy Day in the context of an album. The video is good but the song doesn't register on a casual listen.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 15:22 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

We picked up Dracula in Memphis

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 May 2021 00:36 (one year ago) link

You know more than I know

Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 May 2021 01:00 (one year ago) link

you know more than I know

parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 May 2021 01:01 (one year ago) link

nice cover of a Vintage Violence tune here:
https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2021/05/04/the-lagniappe-sessions-real-estate/

tylerw, Thursday, 20 May 2021 01:54 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Some nice pictures here: https://www.schmitt-hall-studios.com/ron/JohnCale_03.19_21.79_Pix.htm

Raw Like Siouxsie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:20 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

80 today!

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 09:00 (five months ago) link

Hope he can still afford to orgy

buzza, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 09:11 (five months ago) link

four months pass...

Came here to post, and just now re-read this whole thread--

Today, John Cale presents “Night Crawling,” his first new music since 2020 when he released the single, “Lazy Day,” and collaborated with Kelly Lee Owens on “Corner of My Sky.” “Night Crawling” is a taste of much more to come from Cale, and precedes his fall UK tour, which includes his first performances since pre-pandemic (more to come on the touring front in 2023, as well). Cale wrote “Night Crawling” with a nod to '70s NYC pre-disco, recalling times when he and David Bowie would traverse the city at night. Throughout the track, Cale layers his inimitable vocals with a skipping beat and hovering bass. As it expands, it becomes nearly danceable with jockeying percussion and whirs of synth. Cale played nearly every instrument on the track, aside from additional drums by Deantoni Parks and backing vocals by Dustin Boyer, and it was mixed by Seven Davis, Jr.. The accompanying video, animated by Mickey Miles, visualizes the song’s vibrant sounds with colorful, retro animation.

Cale further explains: “It’s been a helluva past 2 years and I’m glad to finally share a glimpse of what’s coming ahead. There was this period around mid-late '70s when David and I would run into each other in NY. There was plenty of talk about getting some work done but of course we’d end up running the streets, sometimes until we couldn’t keep a thought in our heads, let alone actually get a song together! One night we managed to meet up for a benefit concert where I taught him a viola part so we could perform together. When I wrote ‘Night Crawling,’ it was a reflective moment of particular times. That kind of NYC that held art in its grip, strong enough to keep it safe and dangerous enough to keep it interesting. I always figured we’d have another go at the two of us recording together, this time without the interference of being perpetually off our heads! The thing about creating music is the ability to divine a thought or feeling even when reality says it’s a logical impossibility.”

Watch John Cale’s Video for “Night Crawling”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50X3_OpXZWg

John Cale Tour Dates
Sun. Oct. 23 - Edinburgh, UK @ The Queen’s Hall
Mon. Oct. 24 - York, UK @ Barbican
Fri. Oct. 28 - Cardiff, WLS @ Llais Festival *
Mon. Oct. 31 - Whitley Bay, UK @ Playhouse Whitley Bay
Thu. Nov. 3 - Birmingham, UK @ Birmingham Town Hall
Mon. Nov. 7 - Bexhill on Sea, UK @ De La Warr Pavilion
Wed. Nov. 9 - London, UK @ The London Palladium
Thu. Nov. 10 - Cambridge, UK @ Cambridge Corn Exchange
Fri. Nov. 11 - Liverpool, UK @ Liverpool Philharmonic Hall

* = John Cale + special guests, 80th Birthday Celebration

dow, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 03:41 (one week ago) link

So grateful for John Cale's continuing presence

doug watson, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 10:10 (one week ago) link

One night we managed to meet up for a benefit concert where I taught him a viola part so we could perform together.

i think i saw this! it was a benefit for columbia's wkcr at carnegie hall in 1979.
https://www.chisholm-poster.com/large/CL71352.jpg

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 11:28 (one week ago) link

what a time to have been alive

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 11:53 (one week ago) link

haha yeah but that thing was, like, 5 hours long. a little bit of minimalism goes a long way. totally cool to see bowie.

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 12:51 (one week ago) link

haha, I believe you

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 13:03 (one week ago) link

Cool to see Model Citizens on the bill, they'd have been fun I bet. They morphed into the Dance who were pretty good esp during the earlier stuff and are just now getting the reissue treatment from Sundazed of all people.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 13:25 (one week ago) link

sad to say i don't even remember their set. either they got swallowed up by the hallowed hall and lost to memory or maybe i just missed it?

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 14:19 (one week ago) link

members of Model Citizens also went on to Polyrock with Glass playing on some of their records (and Cale produced the MC 7").

bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 14:23 (one week ago) link

Yeah, their albums were also co-produced by Glass, with Kurt Muncasi: pretty good in that respect, also Glass's keys, but I don't remember the core group as having distinctive songs or performance styles. But maybe they'd sound better now, without any pesky Talking Heads etc. all over the place.

dow, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 17:59 (one week ago) link

first heard them on RCA's Blitz comp (odd one with Bow Wow Wow, Sparks, etc.). like all 3 of their albums but haven't heard the ROIR cassette.

sorry to sidetrack from Cale. like the new track and very happy to see him back touring. last time I saw him (Desert Daze 2017) he was fantastic with a great young band. angry and bleak, opening with Hedda Gabler/The Endless Plain of Fortune/Rosegarden Funeral of Sores and then an especially dark and extended Heartbreak Hotel, before starting let some light in with Hanky Panky Nohow.

bulb after bulb, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 18:20 (one week ago) link

You know more than I know

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 August 2022 22:04 (one week ago) link

No one listens to it
They don’t believe it
But it’s the only way for me

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 August 2022 22:09 (one week ago) link

you know more than i know

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 6 August 2022 22:13 (one week ago) link

that phrase should always command an exact response

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 6 August 2022 22:14 (one week ago) link


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