is there a legit place to PURCHASE the full length tunes from BC and M-series in a lossless file format? Hardwax doesnt f/w selling digital files, afaict (wouldn't necessarily expect them too anyway, to some extent.the files i see elsewhere at boomkat and such,.. I am concerned they are all from needledrops or something equally dubious.
(((not super interested in getting into strawman debates with real techno headz about *format* but i'd give it a go)))
― brimstead, Monday, 6 May 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
hardwax DOES sell digital
http://hardwax.com/basic-channel/?paginate_by=50
click "show downloads"
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
oh shi
― the display names will fall like rain (Matt P), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
Oh wow thank u, mh!!
― brimstead, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
no download of lyot, wonder why ... does tresor have rights to that one?
― the late great, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
remembered I have the "arrange and process" mix on my phone. it is still the best thing.
― mh, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
otm, that comp is what made me realize that this stuff is best heard mixed
― clouds, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
that comp never really clicked with me, had the same issues with it that i did w/ hawtin's decks fx 909 mixes ... not bad per se, but a bit bland compared to the originals
― the late great, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
the originals are just such monoliths, the seamless ableton mixing kind of digests them down into much mushier fare
yeah but it plays like three of them at once and it's like a swirling intenseness
― mh, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
i enjoy the mix and the monoliths. the individual tracks are what got me into basic channel, though
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
monoliths?
― mh, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
just using tlg's lingo
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 9 May 2013 00:29 (eleven years ago) link
sometimes i just gotta soak my brain in this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DjRiI1jQGA
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 10 May 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nhEfxnYj9c
― maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link
There's a new BC 12", with some old, unreleased (and pretty amazing) tracks on it
http://basicchannel.com/item/BC-CD
Q-Loop (Full length) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-B96EvUB9Q
― neilasimpson, Friday, 26 September 2014 11:16 (nine years ago) link
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?
http://www.factmag.com/2016/10/12/porter-ricks-shadow-boat-ep-tresor-announced/
― Lawsonomy Domine (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 17 October 2016 03:55 (seven years ago) link
new porter ricks is good
― clouds, Thursday, 1 December 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link
Fluxion's "Vibrant Forms III" sounds exactly like I and II, listening to it is like being stuck in a time warp where the clock never strikes Jan 1, 2001.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 2 December 2016 07:39 (seven years ago) link
no metal box no credibility.
― jed_, Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:13 AM (eight years ago)
https://hardwax.com/24397/various-artists/compiled/
― the late great, Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:45 (seven years ago) link
lol. i remember seeing those in shops and snootily dismissing them. who on earth would buy a COMPACT DISC of such music
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 12 March 2017 10:37 (seven years ago) link
My Maurizio metal box rusted and warped, cracking the cd center :( Luckily I managed to digitize the thing.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 12 March 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link
my dudes
https://hardwax.com/00090/vainqueur/reductions-1995-1997/
― the late great, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link
considering challenging conventional wisdom and doing a poll of the chain reaction compact disc releases
― mh, Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link
why not?
― the late great, Thursday, 6 December 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link
do it up
― marcos, Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link
chain reaction, a sublabel of basic channel: best compact disc release
tada
― mh, Thursday, 6 December 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
Someone left a copy of their screenplay at the record store????????? pic.twitter.com/xHFz9IUWYF— karina unleashed (@karinasoni) November 18, 2018
Would definitely watch this film
― paolo, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link
I screamed reading the entire thing. The main villian in the story is someone who goes by the online username “aphextriplet85”— karina unleashed (@karinasoni) November 18, 2018
I couldn't resist
― aphextriplet85 (mh), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link
omgggg
― macropuente (map), Friday, 7 December 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link
ha amazing
― marcos, Friday, 7 December 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
Yes, I enjoy a good "dub techno" track every now and then.
― mh, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link
I consider Yagya to be dub techno’s version of, like, Tycho or someone, but I listened to the Rhythm of Snow the other day and its soothing qualities appealed to me.
― beard papa, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 04:07 (four years ago) link
"rigning" is pretty nice
― clouds, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link
I listened to the Round One to Round Five/Main Street Records comp today and this track was a huge standout, like super dubby minimal techno with muted little wisps of funk and house, I wish more of their stuff sounded exactly like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBHtjJtVcMA
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link
:)
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link
Those four Round Four / Round Five tracks are colossal. And yeah, Find a Way the most among them.
― Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Thursday, 11 February 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link
I spent 3 hours last night listening to the entire Rhythm & Sound label output (excluding the Burial Mix stuff) and it's... fine? A lot of it is just soooooo slow, like 60bpm, it feels v v loose and sparse and I am not quite getting this whole "omg so influential, set the blueprint for a whole generation of techno" type stuff.
I also wish more stuff sounded like "Find a Way", it seems like a bit of an outlier in the BC universe and they don't seem to have made a whole lot that sounds like it
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 February 2021 14:58 (three years ago) link
"omg so influential, set the blueprint for a whole generation of techno"
that more applies to Basic Channel, no?
Don't get me wrong, Rhythm & Sound / Burial Mix was influential for sure but it was the BC stuff that set a blueprint that is still getting rinsed to this day.
The Burial Mix releases absolutely RULE so if you haven't explored those (it was hard to tell from your posts) you are in for a massive treat.
― stirmonster, Friday, 12 February 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link
its so lame to talk about "proper bass" but R&S with the proper bass feels dense and almost unbearably heavy
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 12 February 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
Do you know this one, Stevie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJVdrU5R1Qk
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Friday, 12 February 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link
I think it’s too easy to take Maurizio and Basic Channel et al for granted given all the imitators that followed. The intersection of dub and techno is, for me, one of the great innovations in modern music. Rhythm & Sound’s music somehow doesn’t sound exactly like techno, and doesn’t sound exactly like dub, but the combination of the two captures most of the things I love about those styles. I guess what I mean is that as cool as the concept is on paper, the application of the idea has always, for me, exceeded those expectations, which is an amazing thing that never happens.
And yeah that Faith 12" jed posted has been on my wantlist for a while. Guess there are no plans to reissue any of that stuff
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link
idiotic opinion alert: to me it feels like an inordinate amount of BC imitators never got past "radiance" and were hellbent on making endless watered down false vibes. idk. yr typical token "b2 heres my dubby techno track" is the equiv of yr typical token downtempo/trip-hop track from 20-25 years back.
― brimstead, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link
I’m not sure if this is what you were getting at exactly, but your post got me thinking about the dub techno continuum as compared to trip hop and I started wondering things like: Did trip hop ever even have its own Basic Channel or was it too easy to digest from the get-go? I guess my knee-jerk answer would be early Ninja Tune and Shadow records acts like DJ Food and Hedfunk: Less accessible acts who had a singular vision and whose work was hard enough to find that they gained a kind of cult like status.
― beard papa, Saturday, 20 February 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link
the thing is, i don't like massive attack at all... but either them or portishead would be a good answer! anybody remember supreme beings of leisure? ick!
― brimstead, Saturday, 20 February 2021 04:18 (three years ago) link
i believe i am conflating trip-hop with "blunted beats" or what have you... yeah i think dj food's super austere jazz brakes stuff is a good answer.
― brimstead, Saturday, 20 February 2021 04:25 (three years ago) link
my ex was v v into trip hop in the 90s and I recently spent a bit of time acquainting myself with a bunch of the acts that were big at the time but have not had much lasting power (Sneaker Pimps, Lamb, Hooverphonic, Morcheeba, etc) and a lot of it felt incredibly derivative/formulaic/uninspired, like v v buzz-chasing, I don't think I realized the extent to which it was a total fad
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link
I don't think Lamb belongs in that group :(Morcheeba though were clearly worthless at the time
― lukas, Saturday, 20 February 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link
My buddy and i found a whole cache of chain reaction 12s last week and i have been fully immersed. Hadnt ever really gotten much more than a cursory listen to this stuff before and now im lovin it
Favorites so far are hallucinator's kilimanjaro, porter ricks's nautical dub, and vladislav's ranta
― pete smith has gone on the internet (69), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link
wow, where was this?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link