basic channel/maurizio/chain reaction, s&d

"1.2" by resilient
"no. 8" by various artists
"m6" by maurizio
"lantau/macao" by monolake
any of the early porter ricks 12"s, but especially the "redundance" double pack
the basic channel collection cd
and the scion "arrange and process basic channel" cd

The second self-titled Rhythm & Sound cd (esp. 'Trace' and 'Roll Off')

The Maurizio cd is also excellent (M7 is my favorite track). Must get the Ploy 12" one of these days, seems it has been rereleased along with all BC 12"s.

and those CR albums Aaron mentions + 'Relish' by Substance and 'Elevation' by Vainqueur.

Maurizio:
All are considered classics by many - personal fav's are M3, M5, M6, M7

Chain Reaction:
Havent heard all but most are nice, a continuation of BC with increasingly refined production and newer talent added to the roster.. Personal favorite releases from the ones I know: Substance - "Relish", Pelon - "No Stunts", Porter Ricks - "Port of Nuba", Vladislav Delay - "Huone", Fluxion - "Largo" 2x12".

phylyps seconded, plus king of the empire and faith by r&s.

still

lots of the web reviews say things like "of course you can't FULLY experience the deepness of the M tracks unless you hear them in their full 19 minute unedited versions". i've been considering tracking down the nonedits and making a 6cd comp of all the M/BC stuff but i'm not sure it's entirely worth it.

there's "I'm Your Brother", which finds Rhythm&Sound succumbing to their most deeply closeted gay house tendencies. then a Ron Trent remix that's incredible woozy bliss in a non-dubhouse style, followed by an amazing basic channel dub of the same track that sends it into deep outerspace.

there's Tikiman's "Find A Way", which is 9 minutes of astounding roots vocals over what sounds like the warmest, trad-housiest maurizio track ever. there's the "Na Fe Throw It" version, which is this totally nocturnal crawlspace between faint static and fat bass tones.

i can't believe biba kopf called this "uninspired mainstream house" or some nonsense like that.

I was actually thinking of doing the same thing but after awhile I lost interest. I'm filling the gaps of the Basic Channel cd by buying the BC-1, BC-7 and maybe BC-9 reissues.

But now it seems I have to go and seek that Main Street cd.

...and find it I did. Thanks vahid, for...well...making such a good case for this cd, because it is pretty amazing, not at all what you would expect.

been listening to a LOT of Hallucinator recently. chain reaction is such a treasure trove.

anyone have any particular hallucinator recommendations?

also, anyone know of good online vendors who sell a lot of this stuff? (records/cds, not mp3s)

Forced Exposure's pretty good on BC/CR stuff. The stuff that's in print anyway.

"Magenta" still floors me every time I hear it. And def search Rhythm & Sound's "Trace/Imprint" 12" as well

and jesus, get all the quadrant stuff. fuckin sick.

mark you'd be wanting this: http://hardwax.com/basic-channel/

Ah get all of it! It all sounds the same anyway! But if you see the above, etc.

these guys just had a showcase on this stuff

http://hypnotic-breaks.blogspot.com/

s: basic channel t-shirt

QUADRANT

s: basic channel t-shirt

-- haitch, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 05:23

if i saw someone in a basic channel t shirt, i'd give them a little nod and then maybe they'd nod back or grin like "'sup".

is that site giving away entire EPs (indeed, practically entire catalogues)? if so, that's pretty fucked.

they're sort of working off the same idea as Discogs Report, but with even more downloads of more stuff.

which is pretty fucked.

also pretty fucked: i was going to do a little thing on the basic channel family on my blog. now i have to stick to chain reaction stuff.

i'm all in favour of music blogs posting up some digitized old vinyl that's been out of print for 10 years or whatever but this is all still available to buy, isn't it?

and given that the only way to download all that is to give rapidshare some money this is like, illegal x100000 - also i hate rapidshare, have i mentioned that?

@_@

i be like damn

new model 500! cool!

that deepchord album (coldest season) is probably the best electronic lp from this year

Yeah, but the echospace stuff like vahid linked above pisses me off with it's extremely limited availability. I haven't been able to get any of them yet and I've wanted them all. Still haven't even heard a rip of the CV313 and I need to!

Well I guess I should've looked at the blog Jena linked above. They're all there. But I still want the vinyl! And I agree with the others, giving away readily available releases in their entirety just pisses me off.

next time you feel stupid for wasting time arguing on ILX, consider that some people address their need for attention by stealing music and posting it on the internet

wow i just clicked over to that blog! a mint original pressing of the quadrant ep on r&s is going for 50 euros on discogs..

i have slowly been collecting all of the basic channel releases from hardwax (on fat colored vinyl even)

hong kong by monolake is going for 100 euros in the metal tin

someone paid $30 for *JUST THE CD* on ebay last month

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

I feel bad for posting that link now :/ I've got about 15-20 of blogs like this in my bookmarks, and I'm not even really looking.

the dude who sold "just the CD" = first case of the metal tin breaking the metal tin

Yes, I enjoy a good "dub techno" track every now and then.

I consider Yagya to be dub techno’s version of, like, Tycho or someone, but I listened to the Rhythm of Snow the other day and its soothing qualities appealed to me.

"rigning" is pretty nice

I listened to the Round One to Round Five/Main Street Records comp today and this track was a huge standout, like super dubby minimal techno with muted little wisps of funk and house, I wish more of their stuff sounded exactly like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBHtjJtVcMA

:)

Those four Round Four / Round Five tracks are colossal. And yeah, Find a Way the most among them.

I spent 3 hours last night listening to the entire Rhythm & Sound label output (excluding the Burial Mix stuff) and it's... fine? A lot of it is just soooooo slow, like 60bpm, it feels v v loose and sparse and I am not quite getting this whole "omg so influential, set the blueprint for a whole generation of techno" type stuff.

I also wish more stuff sounded like "Find a Way", it seems like a bit of an outlier in the BC universe and they don't seem to have made a whole lot that sounds like it

"omg so influential, set the blueprint for a whole generation of techno"

that more applies to Basic Channel, no?

Don't get me wrong, Rhythm & Sound / Burial Mix was influential for sure but it was the BC stuff that set a blueprint that is still getting rinsed to this day.

The Burial Mix releases absolutely RULE so if you haven't explored those (it was hard to tell from your posts) you are in for a massive treat.

its so lame to talk about "proper bass" but R&S with the proper bass feels dense and almost unbearably heavy

Do you know this one, Stevie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJVdrU5R1Qk

I think it’s too easy to take Maurizio and Basic Channel et al for granted given all the imitators that followed. The intersection of dub and techno is, for me, one of the great innovations in modern music. Rhythm & Sound’s music somehow doesn’t sound exactly like techno, and doesn’t sound exactly like dub, but the combination of the two captures most of the things I love about those styles. I guess what I mean is that as cool as the concept is on paper, the application of the idea has always, for me, exceeded those expectations, which is an amazing thing that never happens.

And yeah that Faith 12" jed posted has been on my wantlist for a while. Guess there are no plans to reissue any of that stuff

idiotic opinion alert: to me it feels like an inordinate amount of BC imitators never got past "radiance" and were hellbent on making endless watered down false vibes. idk. yr typical token "b2 heres my dubby techno track" is the equiv of yr typical token downtempo/trip-hop track from 20-25 years back.

I’m not sure if this is what you were getting at exactly, but your post got me thinking about the dub techno continuum as compared to trip hop and I started wondering things like: Did trip hop ever even have its own Basic Channel or was it too easy to digest from the get-go? I guess my knee-jerk answer would be early Ninja Tune and Shadow records acts like DJ Food and Hedfunk: Less accessible acts who had a singular vision and whose work was hard enough to find that they gained a kind of cult like status.

the thing is, i don't like massive attack at all... but either them or portishead would be a good answer! anybody remember supreme beings of leisure? ick!

i believe i am conflating trip-hop with "blunted beats" or what have you... yeah i think dj food's super austere jazz brakes stuff is a good answer.

my ex was v v into trip hop in the 90s and I recently spent a bit of time acquainting myself with a bunch of the acts that were big at the time but have not had much lasting power (Sneaker Pimps, Lamb, Hooverphonic, Morcheeba, etc) and a lot of it felt incredibly derivative/formulaic/uninspired, like v v buzz-chasing, I don't think I realized the extent to which it was a total fad

I don't think Lamb belongs in that group :(

Morcheeba though were clearly worthless at the time

My buddy and i found a whole cache of chain reaction 12s last week and i have been fully immersed. Hadnt ever really gotten much more than a cursory listen to this stuff before and now im lovin it

Favorites so far are hallucinator's kilimanjaro, porter ricks's nautical dub, and vladislav's ranta

wow, where was this?

gah 69, are you in the east bay SF area perchance? One of my local stores got in a huge buy of dope black country techno and FACT deep house stuff and yeah lots of BC and CR

lol don’t know how ‘gah’ got there

yep im in oakland -- the prices are *deece* if not screamers, but man it is so sick to get so much stuff in one shot, and without paying $30 apiece shipping from germany

i got a couple UR, metroplex, and peacefrog things too...

this music has always been near me but not my main focus, and now im diving in and its wild how deep the waters are. reminds me of my jazz knowledge 15yr ago when i was just stacking mid-70s muse and mainstream records with mtume on them :)

PETE

Ranta is incredible ofc, all time

the one I heard first was Huone, just as good

I remember there was some long gone DJ/techno store here in town w/a listening station and one day in 1999 I went through a ton of stuff and found it, immediately hooked

also see the 1st three Pole releases for adjacent awesomeness

sick

WHATS UP SLEEVE

I've heard some of these early BC 12"s have been reissued but can't seem to find any info outside of Hardwax. Hoping there is a US distro for these. Was assuming Bleep but not seeing anything

https://www.discoesencia.com/a-guide-to-basic-channel-records/

Boomkat had them but have sold out already

I adore my Maurizio cd.

Boomkat had them but have sold out already

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Ah, ok, thanks. Oh well. I'll never understand the motivation behind reissuing something only to have it go immediately out of print

i'm pretty sure they will repress them again shortly. it is often hard to know what the actual demand is and always better to under-press. Phonica and Rub A Dub still have copies.

got some more from the same haul yesterday!!!

six more chain reactions (holy shit huone), six maurizios from the 2000s remasters, a basic channel and another peacefrog just for fun. the chain reactions are just exactly my vibe right now, and im enjoying the maurizios right now too. i spent all day tooling around looking for records and came up almost completely empty, but then decided to get a slice of pizza and stopped by econo jam again to see if they had refreshed the techno boxes AND THEY HAD. fallow digging morning redeemed.

hahaha also just seeing my friend karina's tweet upthread

did she ever find out more about that whole deal?

lol lemme ask

@josiahhughes is this your screenplay

— Ash Carter (@ashcarter) November 19, 2018

LMAO YES

— jos (@josiahhughes) November 19, 2018

It was made into a movie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8FCkYHPdX4

i think that tweet was a joke

tweet's a joke. the short film is uh, something

essential mix here imho
https://soundcloud.com/funky_jeff/chain-reactions

Either that link is broken or Soundcloud is down. Would be interested to hear a good mix of Chain Reaction releases, which I don't know nearly as well as the Basic Channel material

works for me

I'll have to check that one out. The mix by Scion (Vainqueur/Substance) that was released on cd as Arrange and Process is pretty good but always seemed a little sterile? I'm not sure if it was the choice to make it 100% Basic Channel material did that

working for me now, too. Helical Scan!

by far one of my favorites in the Chain Reaction catalog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxaY8EjX74A

YSI plz? CD is long out of print and I guess there was a digital reissue 15 years ago, but not on Bandcamp...

*Decay Product* is magnificent, end-to-end.

Paul St Hilaire / Tikiman is getting a Vol. 1 overview next week. Wire just put out a nice overview of their own: https://www.thewire.co.uk/audio/tracks/wire-playlist-paul-st-hilaire

God, those Round Four and Five tracks