― OCP (OCP), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link
"1.2" by resilient"no. 8" by various artists"m6" by maurizio"lantau/macao" by monolakeany of the early porter ricks 12"s, but especially the "redundance" double packthe basic channel collection cdand the scion "arrange and process basic channel" cd
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 03:17 (seventeen years ago) link
The second self-titled Rhythm & Sound cd (esp. 'Trace' and 'Roll Off')
The Maurizio cd is also excellent (M7 is my favorite track). Must get the Ploy 12" one of these days, seems it has been rereleased along with all BC 12"s.
and those CR albums Aaron mentions + 'Relish' by Substance and 'Elevation' by Vainqueur.
― Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Maurizio:All are considered classics by many - personal fav's are M3, M5, M6, M7
Chain Reaction:Havent heard all but most are nice, a continuation of BC with increasingly refined production and newer talent added to the roster.. Personal favorite releases from the ones I know: Substance - "Relish", Pelon - "No Stunts", Porter Ricks - "Port of Nuba", Vladislav Delay - "Huone", Fluxion - "Largo" 2x12".
― pete from the street, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link
phylyps seconded, plus king of the empire and faith by r&s.
― nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― pete from the street, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link
still
― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link
lots of the web reviews say things like "of course you can't FULLY experience the deepness of the M tracks unless you hear them in their full 19 minute unedited versions". i've been considering tracking down the nonedits and making a 6cd comp of all the M/BC stuff but i'm not sure it's entirely worth it.
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link
there's "I'm Your Brother", which finds Rhythm&Sound succumbing to their most deeply closeted gay house tendencies. then a Ron Trent remix that's incredible woozy bliss in a non-dubhouse style, followed by an amazing basic channel dub of the same track that sends it into deep outerspace.
there's Tikiman's "Find A Way", which is 9 minutes of astounding roots vocals over what sounds like the warmest, trad-housiest maurizio track ever. there's the "Na Fe Throw It" version, which is this totally nocturnal crawlspace between faint static and fat bass tones.
i can't believe biba kopf called this "uninspired mainstream house" or some nonsense like that.
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
I was actually thinking of doing the same thing but after awhile I lost interest. I'm filling the gaps of the Basic Channel cd by buying the BC-1, BC-7 and maybe BC-9 reissues.
But now it seems I have to go and seek that Main Street cd.
― Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― bakhtin, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 08:03 (seventeen years ago) link
...and find it I did. Thanks vahid, for...well...making such a good case for this cd, because it is pretty amazing, not at all what you would expect.
― Omar (Omar), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Sunday, 12 November 2006 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 13 November 2006 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link
― H2-H4 (H2-H4), Monday, 13 November 2006 10:04 (fourteen years ago) link
― a (rslvd), Monday, 13 November 2006 10:04 (fourteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
been listening to a LOT of Hallucinator recently. chain reaction is such a treasure trove.
― the table is the table, Saturday, 2 June 2007 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
anyone have any particular hallucinator recommendations?
also, anyone know of good online vendors who sell a lot of this stuff? (records/cds, not mp3s)
― Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Forced Exposure's pretty good on BC/CR stuff. The stuff that's in print anyway.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 25 September 2007 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
"Magenta" still floors me every time I hear it. And def search Rhythm & Sound's "Trace/Imprint" 12" as well
― President Evil, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link
and jesus, get all the quadrant stuff. fuckin sick.
― the table is the table, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link
mark you'd be wanting this: http://hardwax.com/basic-channel/
― haitch, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah get all of it! It all sounds the same anyway! But if you see the above, etc.
― President Evil, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link
these guys just had a showcase on this stuff
http://hypnotic-breaks.blogspot.com/
― Jena, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:11 (thirteen years ago) link
s: basic channel t-shirt
― haitch, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link
QUADRANT
― I know, right?, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 10:19 (thirteen years ago) link
-- haitch, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 05:23
if i saw someone in a basic channel t shirt, i'd give them a little nod and then maybe they'd nod back or grin like "'sup".
― max r, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 10:27 (thirteen years ago) link
is that site giving away entire EPs (indeed, practically entire catalogues)? if so, that's pretty fucked.
― pshrbrn, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link
they're sort of working off the same idea as Discogs Report, but with even more downloads of more stuff.
which is pretty fucked.
also pretty fucked: i was going to do a little thing on the basic channel family on my blog. now i have to stick to chain reaction stuff.
― the table is the table, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm all in favour of music blogs posting up some digitized old vinyl that's been out of print for 10 years or whatever but this is all still available to buy, isn't it?
and given that the only way to download all that is to give rapidshare some money this is like, illegal x100000 - also i hate rapidshare, have i mentioned that?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
@_@
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i be like damn
new model 500! cool!
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
that deepchord album (coldest season) is probably the best electronic lp from this year
― tricky, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, but the echospace stuff like vahid linked above pisses me off with it's extremely limited availability. I haven't been able to get any of them yet and I've wanted them all. Still haven't even heard a rip of the CV313 and I need to!
― matt2, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Well I guess I should've looked at the blog Jena linked above. They're all there. But I still want the vinyl! And I agree with the others, giving away readily available releases in their entirety just pisses me off.
― matt2, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
next time you feel stupid for wasting time arguing on ILX, consider that some people address their need for attention by stealing music and posting it on the internet
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
wow i just clicked over to that blog! a mint original pressing of the quadrant ep on r&s is going for 50 euros on discogs..
i have slowly been collecting all of the basic channel releases from hardwax (on fat colored vinyl even)
― tricky, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link
hong kong by monolake is going for 100 euros in the metal tin
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
someone paid $30 for *JUST THE CD* on ebay last month
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
― am0n, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I feel bad for posting that link now :/ I've got about 15-20 of blogs like this in my bookmarks, and I'm not even really looking.
― Jena, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link
the dude who sold "just the CD" = first case of the metal tin breaking the metal tin
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I had a double point of confusion: it is Biokinetics that is reissued. Which is good.
― mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 17:49 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuyrzxJQd9c
― love's secret borad (clouds), Friday, 26 April 2013 15:40 (seven years ago) link
is there a legit place to PURCHASE the full length tunes from BC and M-series in a lossless file format? Hardwax doesnt f/w selling digital files, afaict (wouldn't necessarily expect them too anyway, to some extent.the files i see elsewhere at boomkat and such,.. I am concerned they are all from needledrops or something equally dubious.
(((not super interested in getting into strawman debates with real techno headz about *format* but i'd give it a go)))
― brimstead, Monday, 6 May 2013 20:51 (seven years ago) link
hardwax DOES sell digital
http://hardwax.com/basic-channel/?paginate_by=50
click "show downloads"
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:02 (seven years ago) link
oh shi
― the display names will fall like rain (Matt P), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:07 (seven years ago) link
Oh wow thank u, mh!!
― brimstead, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:23 (seven years ago) link
no download of lyot, wonder why ... does tresor have rights to that one?
― the late great, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:40 (seven years ago) link
remembered I have the "arrange and process" mix on my phone. it is still the best thing.
― mh, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:08 (seven years ago) link
otm, that comp is what made me realize that this stuff is best heard mixed
― clouds, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:24 (seven years ago) link
that comp never really clicked with me, had the same issues with it that i did w/ hawtin's decks fx 909 mixes ... not bad per se, but a bit bland compared to the originals
― the late great, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:27 (seven years ago) link
the originals are just such monoliths, the seamless ableton mixing kind of digests them down into much mushier fare
yeah but it plays like three of them at once and it's like a swirling intenseness
― mh, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 21:42 (seven years ago) link
i enjoy the mix and the monoliths. the individual tracks are what got me into basic channel, though
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:29 (seven years ago) link
monoliths?
― mh, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 23:22 (seven years ago) link
just using tlg's lingo
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 9 May 2013 00:29 (seven years ago) link
sometimes i just gotta soak my brain in this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DjRiI1jQGA
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 10 May 2013 23:43 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nhEfxnYj9c
― maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 13:54 (six years ago) link
There's a new BC 12", with some old, unreleased (and pretty amazing) tracks on it
http://basicchannel.com/item/BC-CD
Q-Loop (Full length) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-B96EvUB9Q
― neilasimpson, Friday, 26 September 2014 11:16 (six years ago) link
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?
http://www.factmag.com/2016/10/12/porter-ricks-shadow-boat-ep-tresor-announced/
― Lawsonomy Domine (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 17 October 2016 03:55 (four years ago) link
new porter ricks is good
― clouds, Thursday, 1 December 2016 14:46 (four years ago) link
Fluxion's "Vibrant Forms III" sounds exactly like I and II, listening to it is like being stuck in a time warp where the clock never strikes Jan 1, 2001.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 2 December 2016 07:39 (four years ago) link
no metal box no credibility.
― jed_, Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:13 AM (eight years ago)
https://hardwax.com/24397/various-artists/compiled/
― the late great, Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:45 (three years ago) link
lol. i remember seeing those in shops and snootily dismissing them. who on earth would buy a COMPACT DISC of such music
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 12 March 2017 10:37 (three years ago) link
My Maurizio metal box rusted and warped, cracking the cd center :( Luckily I managed to digitize the thing.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 12 March 2017 17:09 (three years ago) link
my dudes
https://hardwax.com/00090/vainqueur/reductions-1995-1997/
― the late great, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 18:42 (two years ago) link
considering challenging conventional wisdom and doing a poll of the chain reaction compact disc releases
― mh, Thursday, 6 December 2018 18:09 (two years ago) link
why not?
― the late great, Thursday, 6 December 2018 20:56 (two years ago) link
do it up
― marcos, Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:38 (two years ago) link
chain reaction, a sublabel of basic channel: best compact disc release
tada
― mh, Thursday, 6 December 2018 22:05 (two years ago) link
Someone left a copy of their screenplay at the record store????????? pic.twitter.com/xHFz9IUWYF— karina unleashed (@karinasoni) November 18, 2018
Would definitely watch this film
― paolo, Friday, 7 December 2018 16:59 (two years ago) link
I screamed reading the entire thing. The main villian in the story is someone who goes by the online username “aphextriplet85”— karina unleashed (@karinasoni) November 18, 2018
I couldn't resist
― aphextriplet85 (mh), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:15 (two years ago) link
omgggg
― macropuente (map), Friday, 7 December 2018 20:30 (two years ago) link
ha amazing
― marcos, Friday, 7 December 2018 20:45 (two years ago) link
Yes, I enjoy a good "dub techno" track every now and then.
― mh, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 19:55 (eleven months ago) link
I consider Yagya to be dub techno’s version of, like, Tycho or someone, but I listened to the Rhythm of Snow the other day and its soothing qualities appealed to me.
― beard papa, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 04:07 (eleven months ago) link
"rigning" is pretty nice
― clouds, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 16:49 (eleven months ago) link
I listened to the Round One to Round Five/Main Street Records comp today and this track was a huge standout, like super dubby minimal techno with muted little wisps of funk and house, I wish more of their stuff sounded exactly like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBHtjJtVcMA
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:41 (three weeks ago) link
:)
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:57 (three weeks ago) link
Those four Round Four / Round Five tracks are colossal. And yeah, Find a Way the most among them.
― Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Thursday, 11 February 2021 22:15 (three weeks ago) link
I spent 3 hours last night listening to the entire Rhythm & Sound label output (excluding the Burial Mix stuff) and it's... fine? A lot of it is just soooooo slow, like 60bpm, it feels v v loose and sparse and I am not quite getting this whole "omg so influential, set the blueprint for a whole generation of techno" type stuff.
I also wish more stuff sounded like "Find a Way", it seems like a bit of an outlier in the BC universe and they don't seem to have made a whole lot that sounds like it
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 February 2021 14:58 (two weeks ago) link
"omg so influential, set the blueprint for a whole generation of techno"
that more applies to Basic Channel, no?
Don't get me wrong, Rhythm & Sound / Burial Mix was influential for sure but it was the BC stuff that set a blueprint that is still getting rinsed to this day.
The Burial Mix releases absolutely RULE so if you haven't explored those (it was hard to tell from your posts) you are in for a massive treat.
― stirmonster, Friday, 12 February 2021 17:37 (two weeks ago) link
its so lame to talk about "proper bass" but R&S with the proper bass feels dense and almost unbearably heavy
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 12 February 2021 17:51 (two weeks ago) link
Do you know this one, Stevie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJVdrU5R1Qk
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Friday, 12 February 2021 18:05 (two weeks ago) link
I think it’s too easy to take Maurizio and Basic Channel et al for granted given all the imitators that followed. The intersection of dub and techno is, for me, one of the great innovations in modern music. Rhythm & Sound’s music somehow doesn’t sound exactly like techno, and doesn’t sound exactly like dub, but the combination of the two captures most of the things I love about those styles. I guess what I mean is that as cool as the concept is on paper, the application of the idea has always, for me, exceeded those expectations, which is an amazing thing that never happens.
And yeah that Faith 12" jed posted has been on my wantlist for a while. Guess there are no plans to reissue any of that stuff
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:54 (two weeks ago) link
idiotic opinion alert: to me it feels like an inordinate amount of BC imitators never got past "radiance" and were hellbent on making endless watered down false vibes. idk. yr typical token "b2 heres my dubby techno track" is the equiv of yr typical token downtempo/trip-hop track from 20-25 years back.
― brimstead, Sunday, 14 February 2021 18:03 (two weeks ago) link
I’m not sure if this is what you were getting at exactly, but your post got me thinking about the dub techno continuum as compared to trip hop and I started wondering things like: Did trip hop ever even have its own Basic Channel or was it too easy to digest from the get-go? I guess my knee-jerk answer would be early Ninja Tune and Shadow records acts like DJ Food and Hedfunk: Less accessible acts who had a singular vision and whose work was hard enough to find that they gained a kind of cult like status.
― beard papa, Saturday, 20 February 2021 02:36 (one week ago) link
the thing is, i don't like massive attack at all... but either them or portishead would be a good answer! anybody remember supreme beings of leisure? ick!
― brimstead, Saturday, 20 February 2021 04:18 (one week ago) link
i believe i am conflating trip-hop with "blunted beats" or what have you... yeah i think dj food's super austere jazz brakes stuff is a good answer.
― brimstead, Saturday, 20 February 2021 04:25 (one week ago) link
my ex was v v into trip hop in the 90s and I recently spent a bit of time acquainting myself with a bunch of the acts that were big at the time but have not had much lasting power (Sneaker Pimps, Lamb, Hooverphonic, Morcheeba, etc) and a lot of it felt incredibly derivative/formulaic/uninspired, like v v buzz-chasing, I don't think I realized the extent to which it was a total fad
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 20 February 2021 16:41 (one week ago) link
I don't think Lamb belongs in that group :(Morcheeba though were clearly worthless at the time
― lukas, Saturday, 20 February 2021 19:42 (one week ago) link