Teach me to like Ween

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Excepting some odds and ends here and there that I used to hear my old college roommates playing, I've never really given Ween a chance. I guess I've never gotten past the novelty of the band. The Pod is OK, I guess (I LOVE Captain Fantasy), but never connected with all the singles I've heard since then. They're close to ten albums in now, so what should I hear?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 4 January 2004 06:39 (twenty years ago) link

Try Pure Guava for older Ween and White Pepper for newer. They might change your opinions (I found that seeing them live definitely helped confirm their brilliance for me as well).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 January 2004 06:52 (twenty years ago) link

For God's sake, PLEASE BUY CHOCOLATE AND CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 4 January 2004 08:31 (twenty years ago) link

If I was trying to get someone into Ween, I might suggest the following songs..

Ocean Man
Puertorican Power
Don't Get 2 Close 2 My Fantasy
The Mollusk
Piss Up A Rope

These aren't my top 4, but I've found that a lot of people get to enjoy these quicker than songs like You Were The Fool or Skycruiser.

Also I think The Mollusk as an album is grossly underrated.

billstevejim, Sunday, 4 January 2004 09:44 (twenty years ago) link

so what album would you recommend ... anyone ?

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 4 January 2004 11:43 (twenty years ago) link

'Chocolate and Cheese' is a good album as a whole. It's a big more big-budget and focuses more on traditional song structure than their earlier stuff, like 'Pure Guava.' I've only ever been able to listen to the latter in its entirety when completely inebriated. Which is how they recorded it as well, so it's quite fitting.

B61 (calstars), Sunday, 4 January 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago) link

Why not start at the very beginning, which is a very fine place to start. GodWeenSatan has a little bit of everything that Ween do, and there's a remastered version now that sounds much better than the original. It's also got more of a band sound (on many tracks) than their next few albums. The Prince cover is essential. I've never understood why this one doesn't get recommended more often (possibly because more people discovered them w/Pure Guava?). As for newer, I go with White Pepper as well.

dlp9001, Sunday, 4 January 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

"Puertorican Power"

Someone must direct me to an .mp3 of this song STAT. I have read the lyrics, and it. is. GENIUS. It kinda explains why the housing projects down the street are littered with Ween stickers, which I always thought extremely bizarre, given the circumstances.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 4 January 2004 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

There's a great line in some song on 'GodWeenSatan:'

Chew tobacco
Two Chewbaccas

B61 (calstars), Sunday, 4 January 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago) link

OK, toughguys, someone list me a 'best of ween' cd and i'll download promptly

roger adultery, Sunday, 4 January 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

Hmmm, I always kind of regret that I didn't get into Ween when I had the chance. Somehow it feels too late. I saw them perform once and thought they were pretty good, but I desperately wanted someone to hand me a joint, and it never happened.

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 4 January 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago) link

FW, where are the lyrics to this song?

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 4 January 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago) link

(And when I walk down South Street nobody tries to sell me drugs any more, but I guess it's just as well.)

Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Sunday, 4 January 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

Hail Boognish!! Ween CD80 GO!!!

1. I'm Dancing in the Show Tonight
2. Don't Laugh (I Love You)
3. I'm in the Mood to Move
4. Up On the Hill
5. Old Man Thunder
6. Nan
7. The Stallion Part 1
8. The Stallion Part 3
9. Mango Woman
10. Don't Get 2 Close (2 My Fantasy)
11. Buenos Tardes Amigo
12. Take Me Away
13. Freedom of 76
14. Homo Rainbow
15. Baby Bitch
16. Beacon Light
17. Mr. Richard Smoker
18. Mutilated Lips
19. The Blarney Stone
20. The Golden Eel
21. Buckingham Green
22. Exactly Where I'm At
23. Flutes of the Chi
24. Tried and True
25. She Wanted to Leave (Reprise)

Please do not download the first five or so songs, listen to them for thirty seconds and say, "Well THIS sucks." and then say fuck it. See, Ween are such geniuses that every single album they've made sounds nothing like the others they've made. Likewise, because this CD is in (roughly) chronological order, the songs at the end sound so different from the ones at the beginning that it's hard to believe it's the same band! Ween are definitely one of the greatest bands ever.

Now then, all together now: "ERNEST!! HEMINGWAY!! WOULD ALWAYS BE THERE FOR ME!! BUT NOW!! ERNEST HEMINGWAY.... IS DEAD!!"

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 4 January 2004 17:52 (twenty years ago) link

Dear RS,
Here they are in their full splendor...

(part 1)
Puerto Rican Power!
Grandmaster of love, I respect my mother and Jesus up above
(part 2)
Puerto Rican Power the message of love

(part 1)
I own a Toyota with mag wheels and gloves
I respect Santana and
(part 2)
Jesus up above
Puerto Rican Power the message of love

I know this Cuban he thinks he's kind of tough
He tried to kiss my sister and Jesus up above
Puerto Rican Power the message of love

(Bridge) (part3) Love mang

Puerto Rican Power Grandfather of love
I respect my mother and Jesus up above
Puerto Rican Power the message of love

Love mang

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 4 January 2004 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

I don't qaulify as a full on Ween fan, but I think that list must include Bananas and Blow. I think the guitar solo alone is genius.

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Sunday, 4 January 2004 18:48 (twenty years ago) link

haha yes, that song was my solution for being subjected to awful co-worker radio singalong renditions of "Margaritaville"

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 4 January 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

for some unkown reason all my friends that are big ween fans do alot of drugs. you might want to give that a try.

dyson (dyson), Sunday, 4 January 2004 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

If you find nothing to adore on Pure Guava, then you're probably destined never to enjoy them.....or life, for that matter.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 4 January 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

QUESTION: How the hell did "Push the Little Daisies" become their big hit single? That's, like, one of the worst songs they've ever recorded!!

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 4 January 2004 22:17 (twenty years ago) link

Might have had something to do with the video, which was truly stoned. I was surprised as anything to actually hear it get some radio airplay, but 1992-93 was a bemusing time for commercial alt stations.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 January 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

Try downloading an acoustic "Push Th Little Daisies" - you might like it better. They did a really good version for KROQ once, with someone with a low voice singing "Pushin up daisies.." in the background.

Filling one CD with Ween is kind of impossible, but I'll give it my best shot...

01 Little Birdy
02 Demon Sweat
03 Flies On My Dick
04 I Don't Wanna Leave You On The Farm
05 I'll Miss You
06 Buckingham Green
07 Ocean Man
08 Puertorican Power
09 Push Th' Little Daisies
10 The Shot Heard 'Round The World
11 Powder Blue (with the Mohammad Ali outro, without the outro it's not nearly as effective)
12 What Deaner Was Talking About
13 Birthday Boy
14 You Were The Fool
15 Skycruiser
16 Vallejo
17 Tender Situation
18 The Stallion Pt 3
19 Spinal Meningitis
20 Freedom Of 76
21 Pollo Asado
22 Mister Would You Please Help My Pony
23 Baby Bitch
24 The Mollusk
25 It's Gonna Be Alright
26 Cold Blows The Wind
27 Waving My Dick In The Wind
28 She Wanted To Leave

I'm pretty certain that's more than 80 minutes, but it's the best I could do.

billstevejim, Monday, 5 January 2004 07:09 (twenty years ago) link

Oh crud, yeah this really is impossible, cos the acoustic Mollusk-era version of "Flutes Of The Chi" is essential.

I suppose the best way to go about making a "Best of Ween" would be to have two discs - one being their best in terms of great songwriting, and the other being the most out-there crazy stuff.

billstevejim, Monday, 5 January 2004 07:13 (twenty years ago) link

Teaching Roger to like Ween is surely no more difficult than putting him on a variable ratio food and drink schedule contingent on him approaching, and finally playing, a Ween record.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 5 January 2004 09:27 (twenty years ago) link

I really like "Birthday Boy" as a song, and some of the funny stuff makes me crack up--"You Fucked Up," the spot-on Prince parody "L.M.L.Y.P.," "Mister Would You Please Help My Pony," "Baby Bitch"...

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 5 January 2004 09:42 (twenty years ago) link

Lately I'm on a ridiculous listening-to-Ween's-not-ridiculous-songs bender - "Sarah", "She's Your Baby", "Baby Bitch" (this is definitely not an entirely jokey song), "It's Gonna Be Alright Baby", "Cold Blows the Wind", "Among His Tribe", "Exactly Where I'm At", etc. However, I know any day now "Big Jim" or "Pumpin' 4 the Man" will pop into my head and the giggling will begin again.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:07 (twenty years ago) link

"Poop Ship Destroyer"!!!!!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

getting drunk to "the blarney stone" is only the best thing ever¡

dyson (dyson), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

I sincerely wish all of you could have seen Roger playing bass with The BunnyBrains at the Knitting Factory a week or 2 ago.He wore a large pillow over his head for the entire set. It was a thing of beauty. As was his solo acoustic opening set of country jams.Great to meet you by the way, Roger! And yer lovely gal as well.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 5 January 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

I've tried to like Ween, but I just can't do it. I'd like their songs if they would cut out every song where they talk in funny or foreign accents.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

I think it helps to be extremely high.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 5 January 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link

Do you already like the Nashville sound? If so, the backing on 12 Country Greats might buy the LP some time in your head, and then by the time you'd heard it through to the end, Ween would have taken up residence there. And yes, O. Nate, why not have some Scotchguard hanging around, just in case?

Alan Connor (Alan Connor), Monday, 5 January 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago) link

It's a beautiful day for a walk on the beach, wouldn't jah say?

YESH I WOULD SHAY THAT, YE- YESH...

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 5 January 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

Has anybody heard any of their pre-GodWeenSatan: The Oneness stuff? Like The Live Brain Wedgie or Axis: Bold as Boognish? Any greatest-hits-worthy songs on those?

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 5 January 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

As far as I can tell, there isn't much greatest-hits-worthy stuff from the the Crucial Lip Squeegie, Live Brain Wedgie or Axis Bold As Boognish. (I think there's an FTP site somewhere with all three of these.) "Hippy Smell" might be my favorite track from that era.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 00:48 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Push the Li'l Daisies is an AWESOME song and totally deserving of its hit status down under... The singing sounds exactly like this guy I used to work with (when I was the summer help with the janitors at an elementary school... he was a full-time janitor).

And remember, daisies = nipples!

Olaf, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link

six years pass...

so, here goes --

* i don't generally care for "genre tourism" (e.g., when a band's work is so different from album to album that its discography can be broken down into the "country album," the "pop album," and so forth)
* i don't generally care for "jokey" or satire-type songs
* i don't care about songs referencing other pop culture things in witty or interesting ways
* i find potty humor really juvenile & lame (e.g., "painting the town brown")
* i am generally not a "lyrics guy," more of a "music guy"
* i don't smoke, so to speak

is there any point in me trying to "get" ween? given the above, is there any point in even trying? i mean, what i've heard so far is pleasant enough -- i put on The Pod last night and it was just kinda "ehhhh" but not repulsive, and there were a couple really catchy songs. but i feel like i may never "get" ween.

is there any hope?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

no

iatee, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Nope. Move along. Nothing to see here.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont particularly like any of those things and i love ween, of course im deeply ashamed

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Both GodWeenSatan and White Pepper are pretty good without listening to the lyrics. That sure is a long list of rules, though...

dlp9001, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

not rules at all, just preferences

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont particularly like any of those things and i love ween

see, this intrigues me

what's the appeal if you're not into any of the things i mentioned (jokey lyrics, juvenile/college-y humor, genre-hopping, witty pop culture references)?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

like, browsing the ween threads, i'm most tempted to agree w/ this comment, though it's a touch harsh perhaps

Everyone I know was absolutely raving about Pure Guava when it came out, so my expectations were pretty high. Then, I listened to it and was left extremely puzzled. Basically, it sounded like a couple of brain-dead frat boys got themselves some technology and started spouting off pure bullshit, the gist of which came down to: "You're different, so you suck and deserve to be made fun of! Let's make fun of things! Oh, and hey, let's be offensive and talk about poop and stuff." Maybe that's considered top-notch in somebody's world, but not in mine.

― Sean Carruthers, Friday, May 11, 2001 7:00 PM (9 years ago)

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd probably play The Frogs back to back w/Ween and then revisit the above.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, I'm hardly a big Ween fan (their real big fans always seem like alternate univers Deadheads to me) but I don't see that it takes that much effort to like, say, 70% of what they've done.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

they write jams, are wonderful musicians, are delightfully strange and hilarious, they deeply love and understand the genere stuff they fuck with, theyre smart, blahdyblahdyblah xp

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean jokey i dont fined them particularly jokey, theyre funny

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

their genre angle too its never straight imitation, its their own version

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah in thinking about this more I think that on paper you could dislike all the things listed above, but that Ween are just somehow not the sum of those things at all.

ice cr?m otm with his summation of how awesome they are.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

if you prefer your music humorless, this band is not for you

assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Although again, Back To Basom is a perfectly great song and I've never thought enough about it to decide whether to laugh or not...

dlp9001, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Buenos Tardes Amigos is also a front-to-back great song - cleverly written, expertly executed, a subtle inversion of a well worn genre trope - but it's appeal is based in humor, in "getting" the joke

assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah its def on the jokey end of the spectrum

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Exactly Where I'm At
Voodoo Lady
The Grobe
Buckingham Green
Back To Basom
The Stallion Pt 3
The Mollusk
Transdermal Meditation
Mutilated Lips
Marble Tulip Juicy Tree
The Argus
Captain

is the Ween I love best. HIV song, Zoloft, etc is the one I like not at all.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

The Blarney Stone is my most favorite

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

The Ween albums i play most are Live at Stubbs, All Request Live and Live in Toronto (w/ Bobby Ogdin and the Shit Creek Boys). So, yeah, i like the live stuff a bit.

Best Ween-ization of a Billy Joel lyric: "Play me a song you're the piano man - put some coke on my dick tonight".

suspecterrain, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

the best ween album is white pepper, the secretly best is the pod

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw them live for the first time last year, was kinda drunk but by end of the show I was dancing and shouting so much I felt totally hammered. It was great. Like their live show actually makes you drunk!

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

They put me off like no one else so much as Zappa.

I did however flog GodWeenSatan for the second highest amount I've ever gotten for a record on eBay. And the highest 'Watch' number.

sonofstan, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i can see the zappa/ween comparison, but i dont like zappa and i do like ween

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i feel like zappa is 'funny' but takes himself super seriously, ween are actual goofballs

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Zappa was pretty intimidating to me for a long time, but yeah, Ween seemed more accessible to me just bc they reminded me of dudes I went to high school with.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Head honcho with the ladies

calstars, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw them live for the first time last year, was kinda drunk but by end of the show I was dancing and shouting so much I felt totally hammered. It was great. Like their live show actually makes you drunk!

Ween live (in '08) is the best w33d/music interface I've ever experienced

I did however flog GodWeenSatan for the second highest amount I've ever gotten for a record on eBay. And the highest 'Watch' number.

ooh, how much? I've got the TwinTone GWS, the Grand Royal C&C, and the Mushroom Golden Country Greats and Mollusk. and those sound so great on vinyl but I don't know when I'll have a proper stereo again so...

Urban Coochie Collective (sic), Thursday, 30 December 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

ooh, how much?

About $120

Fetches more than that sometimes - look on popsike

sonofstan, Thursday, 30 December 2010 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Just think of the master

calstars, Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

do u like ween yet?

peacocks, Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

i feel like zappa is 'funny' but takes himself super seriously, ween are actual goofballs

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Have you heard roxy & elsewhere?

I agree that ween are actual goofballs.

peacocks, Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

have u heard Captain Fantasy yet, ilxor? it's a pretty cool song...

Ned Rag & the Evil Olive Gardens (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

nope, but i'll dial it up on youtube now!

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

ah, actually yes i have, i remember this! i listened to The Pod the other night (see posts upthread) and this was one of the catchier tracks that stood out to me

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

duh my bad

Ned Rag & the Evil Olive Gardens (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

There are too many Ween threads, so maybe I missed one. Anyway:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/03/01/aaron_freeman_of_ween_on_his_solo_record_and_the_road_to_recovery.html

We had ticks, on our heads, my wife cheated, now I'm dead...

dlp9001, Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

great interview, he looks OLD

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 1 March 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

wow had no idea he'd had a meltdown/gone through rehab. altho I guess it was inevitable.

be scientific, douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 March 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

wow. i clicked on this thread fully expecting to read he'd died.

beachville, Friday, 2 March 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link


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