So is there such a thing as femo?

If there is, I'd like to fornicate with it, to it, and on it

Ani DiFranco?

Team Dresch are female emo.
Oh yes they are!
And I love them.

*hugs*

F emo.

I mean, are you talking about something besides, like, Rainer Maria? or Pretty Girls Make Graves?

I actually thought of PGMG. Hell, before I got that one issue of Spin I thought emo was the guy-version of Cat Power.

Anyone read this from punkplanet re: the inherent maleness of 'emo':
http://www.punkplanet.com/archives/00000004.html
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I think of the more sissified variety, yeah its all about guys hearts being broken and cherry coke or whatever and the whole schtick is that its guys whining about it. right
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not to get on another define emo thing...

i thought it meant beads...

Or FIMO bake-in-the-oven clay!

Thanks for linking that punkplanet article, christhamrin - it's really interesting.

I do think of emo, and screamo, as specifically teenage-male. Before I'd heard of PGMG I'd had a conversation with a friend where we decided that girl-fronted emo would be a physical impossibility, and it's hard to get out of that mentality. It's not just that emo is reputedly all about how MEAN girls are, it's that the kind of powerlessness it's raging against, the way that it rages against that powerlessness, seems to be so much tied up in young male identity. What they're expected to be, what they define themselves against: and it's all on such a personal level, not political - even when the topic's political it seems to be about how it affects just this one person - and there's this nasty aftertaste of self-pity that makes me dislike it.

Still, the riot grrl parallel's probably worth looking into. Some house I was working at, the younger son came down and asked what I was listening to - Sleater-Kinney - said he liked it, and proceeded to tell me about the Pretty Girls Make Graves/Kaito (or possibly Kait0? I can never remember) gig he was going to that evening. So he could see some kind of similarity, even if I couldn't.

Yeah, thanks for the Hopper article. She was featured in a Chicago Reader article recently about teaching girls how to DJ, and I think the Punk Planet piece was mentioned in passing.