Michael Rother

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Thanks, that was pretty cool

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 12:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Harmonia albums were re-issued last month, in Germany at least, w00t!

Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 25 December 2003 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...
I'm pulling down this guy's first few solo albums right now. Who likes what? I seem to recall Cope or someone accusing them of sounding like Neu!-lite. But the idea of Jaki Liebezeit playing with him is...exciting. Do tell...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 22 May 2004 05:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Flammende Herzen, track 2 I think
"Zyclodrome"?
ah, "Zyklodrom" pretty close

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 22 May 2004 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the first four pretty solidly. They're not too much like the Neu! albums, though you can tell it's him - they're very smooth and melodic-sounding. I have trouble remembering what melodies come from what albums, especially with the first two. He doesn't play much guitar on "Lust" (the 5th one), which I think is too bad. It's self-produced, and has some good songs on it, but the synthesizer (and fairlight?) sounds are not that nice. I've heard the one after that (with the funny Donald-Duck painting cover - I can't remember the title), but unfortunately I didn't like the songs, much less the sounds.

jazz odysseus (jazz odysseus), Saturday, 22 May 2004 05:30 (sixteen years ago) link

shit. for some reason i was thinking Anthony Rother... anyhoo

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Saturday, 22 May 2004 07:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember thinking Esperanza was pretty terrible when I heard it in the 90's. Listening to the first few tracks of Sterntaler right now. Decidedly more elegiac than Neu! Very nice...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 22 May 2004 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

This is great. The more Krautrock threads the better, I say. Hmm, guess I'll have to check out this guy, too. Can't say I'm much of a Neu! fan, though.

Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 22 May 2004 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

didn't see this thread before, I posted my Rother comments into the Krautrock Side Projects thread...

basically yes agreed, the first four. that fairlight was the end of him.

the less said about Neu! 4 the better... half finish jams from two days in the late 80's, rother was furious when dinger released it. it goes for insane prices: do not bother with it.

(Jon L), Saturday, 22 May 2004 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Agreed - the first few are excellent. "Sterntaler" in particular, is wonderful, almost a continuation of the first side of Neu! 75. Some of his New Agey stuff from the 80s are amusing because they sounds so dated.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 24 May 2004 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I love how clean and pretty Sterntaler is. Conny Plank was really a genius, wasn't he?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link

don't wait to download 'KM10'

(Jon L), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

It's queued up. Katzenmusik 8, the one w/ the backwards tapes, is fairly stunning.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

"Conny Plank was really a genius, wasn't he?"

yes, he was. One of the best producers ever. Someone should write something about the great German producers like Conny, Uwe Nettlebeck and Dieter Dierks pre-Scorpions and how they influenced lots of other people.

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Hint: Conny will be included in Part Two of Stylus's Producers feature next month.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry for the question, is Stylus a US magazine?

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Conny is a hero AND a genius, sorry was (sob)

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry for the question, is Stylus a US magazine?

More or less.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link

dankeschen!

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link

>Conny will be included in Part Two

you bringing up the whole Autobahn thing?

(Jon L), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

That he produced it, you mean?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

v. good

(Jon L), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

oui

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

(co-produced, to be pure about it. but it's a pisser that they denied him percentages on an album that did so well when his studio was operating on the edge for the next decade.)

(Jon L), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link

"Katzenmusik 10" is quite nice, indeed, Milton. What makes you think Can, per se? That is, other than Jaki's presence...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 29 May 2004 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I dunno, the cyclical ascending three note hook reminds me czukay bass lines as much as it does rother. but everything is so built around the drums in can, if jaki's on a track I have an automatic response...

(Jon L), Saturday, 29 May 2004 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHu9QryT0Xw

, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

einarehn (1 day ago)
Gay!

am0n, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

That was terrific.

willem, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 10:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Corny German hippie.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

There's a big batch of Rother reissues coming soon on Water- Sternthaler, Fernwarme, Flammende Herzen, and Katzenmusik.

Telephone thing, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes!

baaderonixx, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Again?

Tom D., Friday, 14 September 2007 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

AWESOME. got any more info on these?

BATTAGS, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

technically never been available in the US, and I bet you Water will be smart enough to leave off those horrible bonus tracks of 90's remixes that marred the SPV editions, which retailed for $25+ when they came out before dropping... probably english liner notes as well.

Water picked the first four, the ones with Jaki on drums & Conny producing. they know their music, those guys

Milton Parker, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

On 01 July 2007 Michael Rother joined the Red Hot Chili Peppers for the endjam at their concert in Hamburg. John Frusciante, Flea, Chad Smith, Josh Klinghoffer and Michael Rother played for about 25 minutes to an enthusiastic crowd of 35.000 people

mizzell, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Amazon doesn't have tracklistings yet, but the solicitation text doesn't mention the bonus tracks, thank god. I'm happy it's Water putting these out, after they did such a good job with the Cluster/Eno material, and not, say, Cleopatra's "Purple Pyramid" Kraut/psych division.

Telephone thing, Friday, 14 September 2007 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Rother has done a whole tour with John Frusciante, so makes sense.

baaderonixx, Saturday, 15 September 2007 08:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Water picked the first four, the ones with Jaki on drums & Conny producing. they know their music, those guys

That's one way of looking at it, the other is that the rest of his albums are so bad ("Lust" is esp. foul) that you'd mad to want to re-release them. Did Conny produce the 1st 4 albums? I thought Rother prod. them himself - in Forst.

Tom D., Saturday, 15 September 2007 10:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Covers of my copies of Flammende Herzen (in Conny's studio), Sternthaler and Katzenmusik (in both Conny's studio & Forst) say "Produktion Rother/Plank" (FH's cover also says "Toning: C. Plank").

willem, Sunday, 16 September 2007 07:57 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

i saw those water reissues at a store today. didn't know they were out

am0n, Sunday, 6 April 2008 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

katzenmusik is epic

r1o natsume, Sunday, 6 April 2008 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

yes.

i mentioned it on another thread, but: michael rother is a good-looking man.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Monday, 16 November 2009 07:05 (ten years ago) link

It's true! He was wearing his 59 years lightly in the recent BBC4 Krautrock documentary. "I've always lived near rivers," he said, by way of explanation of the rhythmic flow of Neu!. He then listed a few places he'd lived, including WILMSLOW. Wilmslow!

Michael Jones, Monday, 16 November 2009 09:18 (ten years ago) link

Having seen him live a couple of years ago, very much so! Could've passed for 20 years younger.

Plus whenever I find myself reading some internet gear review which suggests that you have to have an expensive top-of-the-range guitar to be worth a damn, I think about how for some customs reason he hadn't been able to bring his own guitar, and he'd been lent a cheap one by one of the local support acts, and he still had that unmistakeable Michael Rother tone.

subtyll cauillacyons (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 16 November 2009 10:24 (ten years ago) link

sonnenrad from sterntaler, my fave by rother. great guitar sound which always makes me think of liquid gold. an addictive tune with a melancholic undertone and an incredible pull. when i saw him a two years ago with moebius that piece with rother on guitar alone saved the whole evening. which on the whole was rather crap as most of the time they made prefabricated computer music.

http://www.lastfm.de/music/Michael+Rother/_/Sonnenrad?autostart

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 16 November 2009 13:21 (ten years ago) link

haw - I played Sonnenrad on my radio show last week!! !

sackful of hollow (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 16 November 2009 13:34 (ten years ago) link

Hmmm i need to get Sterntaler. I have Flammende Herzen and fucking love it.

Durian Durian (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 November 2009 16:23 (ten years ago) link

yeah, sterntaler is my fave. I'd rate it close to top-tier harmonia/cluster.

original bgm, Monday, 16 November 2009 16:50 (ten years ago) link

tom otm re: nice guy michael, i always feel bad for him that he had to play with certified bastard klaus dinger despite the magic of their work in neu!

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 February 2020 12:41 (seven months ago) link

Perfect combination of personalities imo.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:29 (seven months ago) link

The sober ying to Klaus' raging yang

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:37 (seven months ago) link

Dude is supporting Einstürzende Neubauten in Denmark in a few months. I've been trying to persuade them to get Rother to join them onstage for a song, because wow, I think that could have a similar sober ying / raging yang dynamic. Blixa seems to like the idea, and he's actually thinking about it?

Like, the Düsseldorf school and the Berlin school colliding in such a pleasing and circle-completing way would make me so happy.

Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 07:22 (seven months ago) link

Is he still hot af @ 69 yo?

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 07:25 (seven months ago) link

Blixa or Michael? They are both still hottttt.

Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 07:41 (seven months ago) link

Michael looks really spry and healthy, like he plays tennis every day. :D

Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 07:42 (seven months ago) link

four months pass...

Wopp-Wopp, new album Dreaming. Can't find anything about it apart from the pre-order page on Grönland's webshop https://www.groenland.com/product/michael-rother-dreaming-lp/

willem, Friday, 19 June 2020 10:22 (three months ago) link

aw hell yeah

scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 June 2020 10:46 (three months ago) link

Seven disc boxset yall

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 15:25 (three months ago) link

That’s all great news!

michaellambert, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 16:37 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

As if on cue this morning, Spotify Hipster Boyfriend let me know that Michael Rother has a new album out called Dreaming.

The first track starts with a tangle of Cluster-esque electronics and soft NEU!-esque recordings of flowing water, and I am here for this!

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 09:27 (three weeks ago) link

If my recollection is correct, I believe there is a quote in that BBC documentary about Krautrock from Rother talking about living near a river his life being an influence upon their sound.

earlnash, Friday, 4 September 2020 10:02 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah I can see that, music that both forges forward and shimmers when it's doing so.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 September 2020 10:06 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah, I think he was talking about the river at Forst, where he records - which I think Roedelius later revealed was actually contaminated with nuclear power plant radiation? But also about the way that Düsseldorf was so centred around the Rhine.

I'm about 2/3 of the way through the album, and it is fantastic BTW. I remember reading an interview a while ago, about the new vocalist he was working with, but I cannot for the life of me remember her name. She does add a lovely intimacy to the record. I'm really digging it - Bitter Tang in particular is quite a good lockdown anthem.

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 10:15 (three weeks ago) link

Found the clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B8JF8CRoZc

earlnash, Friday, 4 September 2020 10:15 (three weeks ago) link

Das ist kein Michael, das ist Ralfi! <3

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 10:22 (three weeks ago) link

Oh wait, no, there he is, indeed, talking about the flow of rivers.

Also YouTube suggestions, up next:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDEaJgZI6ZQ

(So frustrated, because I had tickets for that show, but was not able to go due to being very ill. Now I've no idea when I'll see him again - the shows with Neubauten have been delayed, too, so ...)

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 10:26 (three weeks ago) link

This is sounding perfect today: gently propulsive and soothing. Does anyone know who the female vocalist is?

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 4 September 2020 11:31 (three weeks ago) link

He did mention her in an interview he did fairly recently, but I can't find it on the thread, which means I'm going to have to dig through Tumblr to locate it... eeep.

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 11:51 (three weeks ago) link

Ha the algo served this up to me today as well, I assumed it was just something old repackaged as a chunk of the “new music” Spotify recommends is like 60 year old jazz albums and such so it was a pleasant surprise - was very unprepared for the singer lol

Gab C. Nebsit (wins), Friday, 4 September 2020 11:55 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.self-titledmag.com/michael-rother-interview/

He did mention her in an interview he did fairly recently, but I can't find it on the thread, which means I'm going to have to dig through Tumblr to locate it... eeep.


Here you go
https://www.self-titledmag.com/michael-rother-interview/

willem, Friday, 4 September 2020 12:10 (three weeks ago) link

Ugh, well the link is there :)

willem, Friday, 4 September 2020 12:10 (three weeks ago) link

that is the one:

Actually, the story of Dreaming goes back to 1995, ’97, when I met this British singer and cello player…. Sophie Joiner is her name.

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 12:17 (three weeks ago) link

I was gonna say Michael Rother only has one track - it's a great track of course - but all this talk of a singer has piqued my interest

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 September 2020 12:25 (three weeks ago) link

New website:
https://www.michaelrother.de/

snakes & cookies (doo dah), Friday, 4 September 2020 13:43 (three weeks ago) link

wish he was on Bandcamp! this sounds cool.

sleeve, Friday, 4 September 2020 14:11 (three weeks ago) link

man, i want to buy this, but with shipping it comes out to nearly $70. glad it's on spotify, but man that's disappointing.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 September 2020 15:23 (three weeks ago) link

Thanks for posting that recent interview! What a sweet, charming man he is. I didn't realize until late in life just how many things I love have his fingerprints on them.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 4 September 2020 15:57 (three weeks ago) link

but guys, get this: nothing matters and everyone else is crazy.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 September 2020 16:16 (three weeks ago) link

concerning rivers not sure if it has been mentioned. eno's "by this river" was written when he was with michael rother and cluster in forst in 1974 i guess. the river of the song is the weser which apparently left a deep impression on eno. a great river & hilly countryside (weserbergland) anyways.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 5 September 2020 20:39 (three weeks ago) link

I was gonna say Michael Rother only has one track - it's a great track of course - but all this talk of a singer has piqued my interest

This really isn't the album I was expecting, it's got that Rother melodic shimmer but it's also got a very strong Balearic beach vibe, some of the songs are like hearing a distinctive Michael Rother take on 'Flotation' or 'Barefoot In The Head'.

Also the use of space on the first few songs is amazing.

Matt DC, Saturday, 5 September 2020 21:16 (three weeks ago) link

a lot of great artists just have "one track"!

sleeve, Saturday, 5 September 2020 22:09 (three weeks ago) link

roedelius riffs on “by this river” here and there on at least one of the selbsportait things.. can’t remember specifically

brimstead, Saturday, 5 September 2020 22:20 (three weeks ago) link

There are four versions of it – one 14 minutes long – on the Tape Archives release Bureau B put out a few years ago.

with hidden noise, Saturday, 5 September 2020 23:57 (three weeks ago) link

Hey hey, now, Michael Rother has at least *three* tracks:

-there's the fast, driving motorik one that feels like flying
-there's the soft, ambient, pretty one that feels like floating
-there's the slow, stately, majestic but anthemic one with the awesome guitar riff

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Sunday, 6 September 2020 08:54 (two weeks ago) link

It was meant as an appreciation! But yeah that's probably fair

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2020 09:14 (two weeks ago) link

The new album is really lovely. But vaguely suspicious I'll binge a few more times and then - to pursue the rive metaphor - it'll float on by.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 6 September 2020 09:41 (two weeks ago) link

This watery talk reminds me that there's a River Rother in Sussex (flows down from the Weald past Bodiam Castle and into the sea at Rye). Could do some nice walks along it just listening to Michael

this is my clean tone (NickB), Sunday, 6 September 2020 10:13 (two weeks ago) link

Other suggestions for krautrock riverside walks:

Avon Duul
Annexus Cam

this is my clean tone (NickB), Sunday, 6 September 2020 10:14 (two weeks ago) link

Don't forget Ash Ra Temepel and Tynegerine Dream.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 September 2020 10:23 (two weeks ago) link

Isi(s)
Sowiesosouse

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 6 September 2020 10:34 (two weeks ago) link

Hallogallouse is probably betterer but it's a tough call.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 6 September 2020 10:36 (two weeks ago) link

can confirm Mr Rother was definitely amused when he was driven past the River Rother when he played ATP in camber sands... there may even be a photo of him next to a road sign.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 7 September 2020 14:29 (two weeks ago) link

this is awfully pretty. I think I gave up around Fernwarme and now I'm wondering if I missed something.

frogbs, Monday, 14 September 2020 14:26 (one week ago) link

this is awfully pretty. I think I gave up around Fernwarme and now I'm wondering if I missed something.

Same here. I made a playlist of the tracks from Solo IIthat were singled out in the Pitchfork review and have enjoyed it quite a bit!

willem, Monday, 14 September 2020 16:32 (one week ago) link

I picked up the Solo ll box a week ago, and have listened to pretty much nothing else since. I try not to let reviews affect my personal engagement of music, but they frequently do. Not this time, though.

henry s, Monday, 14 September 2020 18:30 (one week ago) link

This is very pretty and melodic and everything you expect but texturally it's an absolute marvel, both on speakers and on headphones there's an incredibly tactile element to the production, you can feel every sound.

Matt DC, Monday, 14 September 2020 19:07 (one week ago) link

I keep coming back to this. There's something about its late 90s post-club comedown feel that's answering a need right now.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 24 September 2020 16:53 (two days ago) link

'Hey-Hey' is pure Hebden/Beth Orton.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 24 September 2020 16:54 (two days ago) link


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