Marion Brown

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I got a copy of 'Porto novo' Lp on arista from '75 (with han bennink drums and maarten altena on bass). the title is a thing of beauty with bennink starting with a 2 min tabla solo (that's what it sounded like) then marion kicking with ecstatic squeals and its actually pretty tuneful even (though my sense of what's tuneful might be warped but really, no kidding).

The rest of the LP is fine but it needs more listens.

So is there anything more from him that i should look out for?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I have "Why Not" and like it. It's from '66, and balances free with tune nicely. Piano, bass, sax and (to my unschooled-in-jazz ears) pretty fantastic drumming.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 23 December 2003 01:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I absolutely love Three for Shepp. It's less crazy than than Porto Novo, more bopish. The band is about as perfect as it gets, Grachan Moncur kills it. Marion Brown is more subtle than Shepp, poised even -- I really like listening to him play. Three for Shepp is all I've heard though.

scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 03:33 (eighteen years ago) link

"Tuneful," yes!

scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 03:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Tuneful indeed...The recent one with vocalist Devorah Day is quite a beautiful release.

V (1411), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 06:25 (eighteen years ago) link

cool thanks for the info.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
scored his 'Afternoon of a Georgia Fawn' LP gave it a listen this morning. I suspect its very much unlike any ECM but it has that autunmal beginning...sorta fitting in with the label's aesthetic and it was raining outside so its all good.

I like to hear more abt his 'tone poem' concept, if there's anymore to it.

really enjoyed the 'composition' on the second side. decicated to his son. so sweet!!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 11:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i did like georgia fawn, a lot! however i forget why. will listen again today cos it is indeed that sort of morning

i see marcello called it the missing link twixt bitches brew and braxton but i'm finding that a little hard to fathom

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link

saw that when i searched for the thread - in the miles davis prog from a year back i recall one of his side men saying that his way of arranging things was all to do with the act of choosing who was going to play in which session resulting in his next record...marion brown basically said, at the back of this LP, that he chose the people, and i think he talks through the concept but in the end everyone plays. Braxton kind of does a similar thing in his 'for trio' on arista i think - gotta re-read the sleevenotes on that LP to check...

anyway, yes, sound-wise 'afternoon...' and bb are completely diff.

(btw hold tight - been to the marclay thing?)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link

also I can't remember what 'for trio' sounds like but my impression was: "in this room there are a bunch instruments, lets go round the room, play whatever we pick up, put it down, pick something else up etc hey presto we've got enough for a record".

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link

hm i guess it's interesting cos it underlines that (if i've got the right end of the stick) choosing who u want to be playing on your session in the first place is still the first inescapable line in composition however freeform you'd like to be after the fact. and indeed vaguer still one is composing with one's relationships to the other people involved ie assumptions, patronisings, underratings, guesstimates of ppl's potential, trust. well that's all quite obv really. (prob why the amm soap opera is still cool)

i think i'm confident in remembering georgia fawn to have a especially soft and engaging familial atmos, to that end. with a stellar lineup, so thats the listeners own expectations coming into it too. but yeah perhaps foisted by that dedicated to my son side. cant find it right now tho grr

(not yet no, am super broke, holed up at home digging for reggaeton)

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

"can someone gmail me jazz composers orchestra 3lp okthanxbye"

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

gmail me too oh wait i must get an account first!

yeah and it def is a v similar deal in classical composition where many of my very faves are the pieces where the composer writes with a performer/ensemble's and their idiosyncracies in mind. or someone like feldman, who wrote some of his best stuff as attempts at portraits of his artist friends.

(let me know if you'd like (or are able to) to go to the marclay sometime - i did a thread on this but have not gone)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

Found a used copy of the Get Back reissue of the Marion Brown Quartet LP on ESP yesterday. Really, really liking it. As dlp9001 says above regarding Why Not, it "balances free with tune nicely." Just enough of both to keep me really interested. Plus, I love getting lost in sidelong pieces that justify their length. I've meant to check him out for a while and I'm definitely interested in finding more now. Plus, it has a great cover:

http://www.totalshutdown.com/espdisk/1022d.jpg

matt2, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

The only one I've ever heard is Three for Shepp, which is really really good.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

Definitely want to check that one out as I'm a big Shepp fan as well.

matt2, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

i love afternoon of a GA faun (not FAWN), geechee recollections, and sweet earth flying, and im stoked to hear the ESP-disk albums. i think im maybe warming up to a full-discography project, cause everything ive heard him on is high-quality.

69, Friday, 8 January 2010 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

just listened to VISTA, which is great, but slows into too-smoothness occasionally. burton greene s/t on ESP (w MB) is on its way to me, and im sweatin the two MB ESP LPs bad right now.

im not sure what to do about porto novo and reeds/vibes and some of the other non-impulse! non-esp shit. any opinions?

69, Sunday, 7 March 2010 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

very sad news:

http://lounge.espdisk.com/archives/564

Sterling-Kinney (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 October 2010 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

Rip, Marion.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 October 2010 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

so long marion

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

So sad. One of my fave musicians. His playing on Harold Budd's "Pavilion Of Dreams" is lovely.

Wayland Flowers And Madman (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 20 October 2010 01:09 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

listening to amina claudine myers's POEMS FOR PIANO, a solo piano tribute record to marion from 1979. nice impressionistic versions of MB songs, got me wondering about a few records i havent heard yet:

http://discog.piezoelektric.org/marionbrown/images/ser1001.jpghttp://discog.piezoelektric.org/marionbrown/images/ser1001_back.jpg
1977 solo saxophone, the only record on his SWEET EARTH label besides the aforementioned amina claudine myers one

http://discog.piezoelektric.org/marionbrown/images/rvj6024.jpghttp://discog.piezoelektric.org/marionbrown/images/rvj6024_back.jpg
1978 passion flower

http://discog.piezoelektric.org/marionbrown/images/rvj6066.jpghttp://discog.piezoelektric.org/marionbrown/images/rvj6066_back.jpg
1979 november cotton flower

69, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:52 (ten years ago) link

anyone heard these?

69, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:52 (ten years ago) link

Great covers, would definitely buy those if i ever saw them cheap.

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Monday, 3 October 2011 18:57 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

so cool. now we need Pat Patrick week.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:58 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, definitely.

Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:05 (eight years ago) link

Whoops, just noticed Marion Brown Day was last year.

Still, it should be celebrated every year.

Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:06 (eight years ago) link

you could take a personal day every year.

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:07 (eight years ago) link

sheffield needs to have a derek bailey day asap

not that long ago i picked up a sweet euro CD twofer of Geechee Recollections/Sweet Earth Flying - pre-internet, in the uk these albs were really elusive - now you can buy em new for less than the price of a packet of cigarettes

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:12 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, Impulse! put out that twofer in the US in 2011.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:22 (eight years ago) link

eight years pass...

"Sweet Earth Flying" is sweet indeed.

Let's Get Ready to Trimble (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 July 2022 12:36 (two weeks ago) link


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