Taking sci-fi sides: Blade Runner score (Vangelis) vs. Dune score (Brian Eno/Toto)

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Which one makes your geek spine shiver a little more?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Some of the Toto stuff for dune is great (thx for the reminder, I'd actually forgotten about that one) But this is no contest, really. Vangelis ownz. That little bit where you see the cityscape, and there's this CS80 lead, which swoops down in pitch - man, I'm getting the shivers just thinking about it.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

John Carpenter's Escape From New York

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

the dune soundtrack may be more evenly matched with queen's effort for flash gordon (they're both great!).

i'm also quite into wendy carlos' work on tron.

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Vahid is right. Wendy Carlos's work on Tron wins by a very wide margin.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

gygax! OTM

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Is someone going to imply that John Carpenter is some sort of minimalist genious on par with John Cage. Because if you don't...neither will I.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link

"genious"

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I love both, but I really like how Pulp repurposed the 'Dune' score for "The Fear".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I like how Boards of Canada repurposed the EFNY sdtk for Music Has The Right To Children

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Never heard the "Dune" score, but cannot imagine it being better than Vangelis' seamlessly perfect score to "Blade Runner". This opinion is grounded in the irrefutable fact that the film "Dune", if we're discussing the Lynch incarnation, was a rancid dollop of tepid, runny crap.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Ooooh, and don't forget that opening track from 'The Warriors'!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Alex' point is unarguable. It had Sting in it. (the music is good though)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

if alex is so right then why does the guild steersman still own your dreams?

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Am I reading this right that the score to Dune had something to do with Brian Eno collaborating with Toto? As in "Hold the Line"/"Roseana"/"Africa" Toto? As in drummer actually dying from bizarre gardening accident Toto?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Giorgio Moroder's score to "Midnight Express" laughs at you all.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Soundtrack snob flanking manuever: Tangerine Dream's score for Sorcerer (not sci-fi, though).

Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Am I reading this right that the score to Dune had something to do with Brian Eno collaborating with Toto?

If I recall correctly, their contributions were separate...but work well together.

By the way, I agree with those who mentioned John Carpenter's Escape From New York soundtrack (it ownz, indeed), but it WASN'T part of the equation.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Am I reading this right that the score to Dune had something to do with Brian Eno collaborating with Toto?
I think the incidental music was all Toto, but the opening and closing credits themes are all Eno compositions.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Assault on Precinct 13 pees on all of these.

(Didn't someone just reissue this? I need a real copy.)

I love Tangerine Dream's score for Thief, despite some of the ugly guitars.

Tetracell White (Andy K), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, the closing theme certainly had Steve Lukather's wet, chorusy guitar ALL OVER it.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Didn't TG score Risky Business, too? I remember some wierdly out of place arty synth stuff when I saw that movie on tv recently.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link

by TG I mean TD which means Tangerine Dreams cuz I can't type.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link

See now if it was Eno working with Toto, that would send me out running to track it down. How did Lynch come up with the idea to recruit Toto, fer chrissakes?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link

spice prescience

vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know. I'm just thankful Sting wasn't involved in the scoring process.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link


"I WILL KILL HIM!"

That's the only line of Sting's from the film I remember.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

The Toto on the "dune" soundtrack is poss more the Toto who had every advanced Yamaha synthesiser something like 6 months before anyone else had even heard of it. I'll have to hunt a copy out if poss (at one point this was like total unobtanium, is it actually available in some tangible form?)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I just looked on eBay, and there are several copies of the cd for $9.99.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Didn't TG score Risky Business, too? I remember some wierdly out of place arty synth stuff when I saw that movie on tv recently.

yes. reich seriously considered a lawsuit when he heard it, too.

mig, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I've got to throw in for Vangelis; the Blade Runner soundtrack brought me into the scenes more than the Dune soundtrack.

webcrack (music=crack), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link

The art direction and set design and yes, even Carlo Rambali's special effects for Dune are magnificent, and worth seeing the film for.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link

The Assault on Precinct 13 soundtrack is yum. It sounds so much like Tri Repetae++. Is there an actual official version? I have two not real copies, and they've both got different tracklistings.

E. (ebb), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, Lalo Schifrin did THX-1138.

Elliott (ebb), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Apparently the original idea for Dune was that it would be directed by Alejandro Jodorowsky (Holy Mountain, El Topo, Santa Sangre etc). He wanted each of the four planets in the film to be scored by a different rock band, two of whom would be Magma and Pink Floyd - I don't know who he had in mind for the other two, but I'd wager that Toto weren't even in the running.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 23:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Personally, I vote for Dune (Graeme Revell)

Xii (Xii), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 08:13 (sixteen years ago) link

How did Lynch come up with the idea to recruit Toto, fer chrissakes?
Dino DeLaurentiis demanded it.
The same way he demanded Queen for Flash Gordon.
I think Lynch hired Eno though. And after most of the music duties were handed over to Toto, Lynch had one more -- of a hundred -- reasons to finally give up on the movie.
Hence why it's directed by "Alan Smithee"

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link

The TV version was directed by Alan Smithee. David Lynch's name is on the theatrical release.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link

The Blade Runner score rules, BTW.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

POLL

El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

The Assault on Precinct 13 soundtrack is yum. It sounds so much like Tri Repetae++

?!? can this realy be true i think not.

ledge, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't TG score Risky Business, too? I remember some wierdly out of place arty synth stuff when I saw that movie on tv recently.

My first thought was TG=Throbbing Gristle and I was like OH GOD YES.

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

I can hear Genesis now.

"Olllld TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME!
Rock.
AND ROLLL!"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

"weirdly out of place"

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

Risky Business is quite odd for a mainstream Hollywood movie, the Tangerine Dream soundtrack merely emphasizes it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Assault on Precinct 13 soundtrack (at least the stuff you hear during the actual movie) consist mostly of a few long, drony synth melodies? It's sounds quite good, but not like Autechre to me.

Tuomas, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

Slsk the 'Esper' Version of the Blade Runner soundtrack - I can say from seeing 'The Final Director's Cut' this weekend - that is the apple pie soundtrack version that roolz.

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 5 November 2007 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

I love the Risky Business soundtrack!

Don't understand the question though. Blade Runner owns everything, can't seem to recall anything great about Dune at all. Will watch it tomorrow.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 5 November 2007 01:45 (twelve years ago) link

twelve years pass...

god 'wait for me' on the blade runner soundtrack is such a fuckin' jam

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 11:38 (two weeks ago) link

blade runner is the best soundtrack ever

Bstep, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 11:41 (two weeks ago) link

it's good, and i like it

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 11:50 (two weeks ago) link

"love theme" from blade runner is my jam

i cant even remember the Dune soundtrack

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 12:13 (two weeks ago) link

everyone knows there is a 4 disc of the Esper version now, right?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 12:13 (two weeks ago) link

i am attempting to, er, acquire it as we speak but not enough seeders :(

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 12:16 (two weeks ago) link

Blade Runner is good, but it's not even the best Vangelis soundtrack, let alone best in general.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 13:13 (two weeks ago) link

I don't know if I'd say they're better than Blade Runner, but Opera Sauvage and 1492 are at least as good

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:03 (two weeks ago) link

Opera sauvage is the best, yeah. Antarctica is also there among his best soundtrack work, the main theme especially is the most gorgeous thing he's written.

But obviously the best soundtrack of all time is Geinoh Yamashirogumi's, for Akira.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 15:41 (two weeks ago) link

I'd have L'apocalypse des animaux as my favourite of his soundtrack works.

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 16:26 (two weeks ago) link

Création du monde may be the best track he ever recorded

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 16:43 (two weeks ago) link

Aye, hard to disagree. Kinda partial to The Dragon as well.

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 16:49 (two weeks ago) link

The album or the song from China?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 16:53 (two weeks ago) link

The epic banger of a title track off The Dragon. It's kinda kitschy but I love it.

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:02 (two weeks ago) link

y'all skip over 'one more kiss, dear', right?

But obviously the best soundtrack of all time is Geinoh Yamashirogumi's, for Akira.

otm

Paperbag raita (ledge), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 10:04 (two weeks ago) link

I enjoy 'One More Kiss, Dear' in the spirit in which I think it's intended, a technical exercise in pastiche.

Diddums Is a Ranter (Vast Halo), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 19:45 (two weeks ago) link

Have we ever had a soundtracks poll?

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:03 (two weeks ago) link

I'd have L'apocalypse des animaux as my favourite of his soundtrack works.

― Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 11:26 AM (yesterday)

You and me both.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:06 (two weeks ago) link

I have it on now and it's beautiful.

Side thing: did David Dundas nick the main melody from Le singe bleu for the Withnail and I theme?

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 February 2020 09:26 (two weeks ago) link

Have we ever had a soundtracks poll?

There was a TV theme song poll, I don't remember a soundtrack poll? Might be fun?

Tuomas, Thursday, 13 February 2020 10:08 (two weeks ago) link

dear Van fans. could you tell me what Van some hipster doofii did a "disco edot" of here?
http://www.20jazzfunkgreats.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Los_Massieras-Shroom_Heaven.mp3
thanxiu

massaman gai (front tea for two), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 14:33 (one week ago) link

It's from Heaven and Hell, don't remember if that bit is in Part I or Part II. I can check it once I get home.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 14:47 (one week ago) link

Ok, I checked it, that bit starts playing in Heaven and Hell Part II around 3:15. It's always been one of my favourite parts of that album.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 14:52 (one week ago) link

y'all skip over 'one more kiss, dear', right?

What? Never! The segue from One More Kiss, Dear to Blade Runner Blues on the soundtrack is amazing.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 15:13 (one week ago) link

thanks, Tuomas! not sure how i missed that.

massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 06:46 (one week ago) link

Dan Worsley
Posted: February 12, 2020 at 3:03:42 PM
Have we ever had a soundtracks poll?


No but we were just talking about doing one in the thread for the latest decade by decade classical music poll, after I was bugging Pom to include Herrmann, Waxman and Rozsa in the 40s one.

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:44 (one week ago) link


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