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I am asking this in regards to the fact that he has produced the new Pulp album and everything I've heard so far is wonderful. However, stick one of his actual records by my ears and I don't like it. Not at all. I think it's the voice (note, not gravelly), the actual arrangements often sound good. Anyone else have this problem with him? I also realised Jarvis' is fairly similar, only I like it, which is strange.

Bill, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

he has produced the new Pulp album

Wow, talk about being cool in England. I guess for Americans, that would be like getting J.D. Salinger to produce your album or something.

Re:Scott Walker, I still haven't heard Tilt. Comments?

dleone, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Tilt = godlike. One of those albums where I initially didn't know what to think of it, but now all it takes is the beginning of "Farmer in the City" to immediately send me.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Anyone else have this problem with him?

No, for me the voice is the main attraction. "Tilt" is really not representative of his main body of work. Even his vocal style has completely changed. It's really not where I would start with him; it's a weird one. Scott 1-4 are all great (espcially 4) and I even like his "country" albums.

Sean, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Make 4 good records and then live the fame forever.

Tilt? game over! Insert Coin --> jarvis want to play!

MZ, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Whoever you are, MZ, I like you already. Welcome! And if you've posted before I apologize for not noticing. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, TILT doesn't really represent his main body of work, but it fucking STABS! And his voice sounds amazing throughout.

Kodanshi, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

My introduction to Scott Walker was, perversely, Climate of Hunter, which (forgive me) I thought was unlistenable. All frightening avant garde warbling. It took about five years for me to recover and work out that it wasn't all like that.

daniel, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
Reviving this thread to plug this website I found today. MP3 downloads of all the Scott Walker albums that haven't found their way onto official CD releases yet. Scott Sings Songs From His TV Series! The Moviegoer! Any Day Now! And two discs of what sounds like off-air recordings of ALL the songs from the TV series.

Don't tell the RIAA, now.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Thursday, 18 September 2003 03:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

This looks great! Thanks for posting this.

I can't wait to hear them.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You are most welcome Charlie.

I've had "...Sings Songs From His TV Series" for ages - I grew up listening to it actually, my dad owned it on old fashioned audio tape and played it to death. It's the most Vegas-y Scott ever got, and I doubt he was very comfortable doing that sort of material, but damn it's great to hear him singing that kind of stuff. The arrangement on "Will You Still Be Mine" is completely over the top.

I'd recommend downloading "Country Girl" first. It'd fit real nicely on "Scott 3." Then download "Maria Bethania" if you really want to be confused.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

that link isn't working for me, and I really really want it to.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

oh, scratch that last post of mine, this is awesome (so many songs)

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You know that feeling you get when you're just browsing in a record store and you come across an album you've been searching for for years? That's the feeling I got when I discovered that site. I actually yelped when the page had finished loading.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, I think I yelped too.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

wow! what a treasure... i actually just bought my first Scott album (1) two weeks ago and like it a lot. i'm curious to find out what the material from this website sounds like. he actually had a tv-show?

willem (willem), Thursday, 18 September 2003 06:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'd recommend downloading "Country Girl" first. It'd fit real nicely on "Scott 3."

Oh man, I love that song - apparently it's based on Wordsworth or some such geezer

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 September 2003 10:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

According to Mojo, a Scott Walker box-set entitled "5 Easy Pieces" will be released in November and it's been compiled by Scott himself, with each disc representing a different aspect of his work (film work, avant garde, etc.). It will include some Walker Brothers tracks, although there's no mention of unreleased material.

Susan (Susan), Thursday, 18 September 2003 13:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

he actually had a tv-show?

You better believe it boy - primetime BBC1, Saturday evening(?), 1969(?), much the same set up as similar shows presented by Cilla Black, Dusty Springfield, Lulu though i don't believe any of those ladies ever sang "My Death".

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 September 2003 13:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Retort pouch, I kiss you!

I wish I was at home right now so I could download it all right away.

Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 18 September 2003 18:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I was about to say, I kept checking this thread thinking, "No Nicolars post yet? THE WORLD MADE SENSE AN HOUR AGO."

Bookmarked it yesterday, I might do some downloading over the weekend but only after I clear everything up on my computer some.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 September 2003 19:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

*splutter* There's more! Three tracks recorded circa 67/8! Never ever released!

1. Free Again
2. I Get Along Without You Very Well
3. I Think I'm Getting Over You

http://mapage.noos.fr/ckt02/rare.zip

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 19 September 2003 02:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

wow.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 September 2003 02:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

fuck this low speed connection fuck fuck

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 19 September 2003 04:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Fucking Maria Bethania!!

Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 05:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Me am upset. Links no work for me. Anyone else own a mac and having similar probs?

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Friday, 19 September 2003 05:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I was able to download that new Zip link mentioned up above just fine...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 September 2003 05:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Working now. Must have been overloaded. Thanks. Here we go!

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Friday, 19 September 2003 05:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I was able to get them all fine on my mac. the website took a few tries to load, but it worked. Yeah, Maria Bethania is a great song.

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 19 September 2003 06:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

note to retort pouch: i'll post the track listings for the box set on my blog this weekend.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 19 September 2003 08:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Best thread ever.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 19 September 2003 08:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

haha, a cover of bobby conn's 'maria b'!

RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 September 2003 11:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

would anyone be willing to burn these on a cd (or cds) for me?

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 19 September 2003 14:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'd be glad to, amateurist. Just email me your address.

Marcello - thanks, looking forward to that.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Friday, 19 September 2003 16:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh oh, how about me? (Maybe one of the Glas ilxors w. broadband?)

David. (Cozen), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

sometime.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

haha, a cover of bobby conn's 'maria b'!

RJG, I don't know if you're kidding or not, but if you haven't heard the original version of "Maria Bethania" by Caetano Veloso, you should really really download it. I love it to death. Walker's version is good, but disappointingly faithful to the original.

Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 19 September 2003 17:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

is anyone here in the uk or france? i'll be in france and wouldn't want someone in the usa (or myself) to pay the heavy shipping across the sea.

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 19 September 2003 21:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

aside: I think Bobby Conn's version of "Maria Bethania" is one of the worst covers I've ever heard, ever. And I like Bobby Conn, so go figure.

hstencil, Friday, 19 September 2003 21:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Anyone who's interested should check out the Scott Walker group in Yahooo. Cedric, who's site y'all are raving about, posts regularly.

Libby, Monday, 22 September 2003 02:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

In my previous posting, beware the errant apostrophe! A thousand apologies.

Libby

libby, Monday, 22 September 2003 03:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

its' ok

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 22 September 2003 05:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

sometime?

David. (Cozen), Monday, 22 September 2003 17:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

does anyone happen to know on which label 5 Easy Pieces will be released?

scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 25 September 2003 05:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

According to musica.co.uk, it's released on Universal :
http://www.musica.co.uk/musica/screen__PRODUCT/shop__MUS/affiliate__INTGOOGLE/category__PP685964.htm

Cedric, Friday, 3 October 2003 06:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

And now MP3 the site is down. Before I get to download anything. Sob.

harveyw (harveyw), Friday, 3 October 2003 08:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i was never able to access it! sob indeed.

there's something off about the idea of a scott box set. how does one excerpt "tilt" anyhow?

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 3 October 2003 09:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Agreed about the box set. Anyone have any thoughts about this:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scottwalker/message/162

If it's real, it sounds more interesting than the box set!

proggist, Friday, 3 October 2003 10:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i was never able to access it! sob indeed.

Amateurist, I'd still be delighted to burn discs for you and propel them across the ocean. Just send me your address.

Anyway, it seems the MP3 downloads are down, "temporarily" but they have been replaced by a video clip from Scott's TV show which is well worth watching. HAHA look at his hair.

retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

His hair is fab! I wish I could look just like that every day.

Sean (Sean), Saturday, 4 October 2003 01:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

link seems fine here.

prom is TONIGHT, hawley's just been talking about it with maconie.

koogs, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:24 (two months ago) Permalink

there've been a couple of walker-centric programmes recently btw

Late Junction Jarvis Cocker Scott Walker mixtape
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08xcxms

Freak Zone Scott Walker Special
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08yx7wt

oh, there's a page with them all on, some recent, some archive, some clips...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0590947

koogs, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Going to this tonight, extremely excited, although I can already tell that Jarvis is going to be the weak link here. I'm guessing they'll give him some of the more knockabout material though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 15:38 (two months ago) Permalink

if someone can audio capture this i'd be etc etc

i'm in a classical news group that has been capturing all the classical ones but IDK if they'll upload this one

or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 15:59 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm assuming this will be on the telly at some point? I hope.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:05 (two months ago) Permalink

It's on Radio 3 tonight, I know that.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:06 (two months ago) Permalink

... 'This programme will be available shortly after broadcast', says the Beeb website.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:07 (two months ago) Permalink

the max richter show was rather lovely on sunday morning.
he has a lovely radio voice, and his selections were perfect for the hour of the day and my physical state.

mark e, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:11 (two months ago) Permalink

like I say, it will be on BBC4 on Friday

Mark G, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh right, didn't notice that.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Am I the only one who prefers earlier Scott?
Some of my favourite tunes are on his later records
Like sleepwalkers woman, farmer in the city and Clara but I can't imagine feeling like putting drift on anytime soon. Whereas I'd put on Scott 3 or 4 in a heartbeat

Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Scott 3, Climate and Tilt are honestly dead even for me, each deeply satisfying to hear all the way through but the parts of me they satisfy are v different

or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Going to this tonight, extremely excited, although I can already tell that Jarvis is going to be the weak link here. I'm guessing they'll give him some of the more knockabout material though.

... aaaaand he's opened up with "Boy Child", which is about as far from knockabout as you can get. He seems to be doing it as Jake Thackray though and not Scott Walker.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Sound quality rather better on R3 than on R6M for this, FWIW.

Would like to hear Susanne Sundfør have a bash at Scope J. Any time, perhaps.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Another time, perhaps, I meant.

Everyone is doing fine, but only Susanne should go near Such A Small Love.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:48 (two months ago) Permalink

A friend has posted the programme on FB. No one is doing SASL. Wise.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Yes, if anyone hadn't realized before, these songs are hard to sing.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Going to listen the shit out of this when it surfaces afterwards.

Matt DC I am soo jealous, would love to hear how it was being there!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:27 (two months ago) Permalink

(didn't i read somewhere that radio 3 were doing lossless streaming (flac) for the proms? Website mentions binaural but not lossless)

koogs, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 00:22 (two months ago) Permalink

29 days left to listen

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 07:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Enjoying Hawley's very downbeat "Two Ragged Soldiers."

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 08:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Seems very apt that Jarvis is doing the 'Til the Band Comes In material

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 08:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Sundfør killin it on "The Amorous Humphrey Plugg"

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 08:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Will check this out later but scanning the track list can't help thinking it's a bit disrespectful to ignore nearly everything post Scott 4. No one's expecting 'SDSS1416+13B(Zercon, a flagpole sitter)', but some acknowledgement of where he is now would have been nice.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 08:30 (two months ago) Permalink

This was fantastic. Jarvis was pretty obviously out of his depth but he had a choir to help him with the difficult bits, he's got a way of phrasing that worked with the more downbeat material though. Susanne Sundfor's higher register is astonishing and her voice has WAY more power than I would have expected - there's still something a bit off about her lower register though that I can't put my finger on. John Grant just has the right voice for this and his Seventh Seal was incredible, he can't quite get at the sadness of some of the songs though (his own stuff is extremely sad but there's often a distancing layer there). Whereas Richard Hawley isn't anywhere near as good a singer (and I've never engaged with his solo material) but he got a certain beaten down vibe really well.

Essentially these songs are pretty much never going to be performed like this again and the goodwill in the venue was obvious.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 08:34 (two months ago) Permalink

Sundfør killin it on "The Amorous Humphrey Plugg"

This was the highlight of the night for me. Listening on the radio, that is.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 09:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Frankie Boyle!

koogs, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:26 (two months ago) Permalink

I no.

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 11:28 (two months ago) Permalink

I feel like if cocker were really a fan of these songs he would have un-blagged his way out of this programme but what can you do, he's just about tolerable I guess (speaking as someone who's attended his performance of a song from the drift and experienced the true nightmare of albarn attempting "farmer in the city")

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Saturday, 29 July 2017 16:18 (two months ago) Permalink

I thought it was all a bit straight, too reverent. Trying to capture the feeling of these songs requires the opposite approach but then again faced with a voice like Scott's what're you going to do? The Old Man's Back Again was fucking awful: Hawley sounded like he was reading it off a piece of paper, and it was missing that "James Jameson in the Eastern Bloc" bassline. Too much separation between the backing musicians and the singers: it felt like they both happened to be in the same place at the same time but didn't really gel.

Dan.S., Saturday, 29 July 2017 16:35 (two months ago) Permalink

It felt like a eulogy for a guy who's more alive and creatively present than, say, Jarvis is.

Dan.S., Saturday, 29 July 2017 16:36 (two months ago) Permalink

I'd say even Jarvis would agree with that.

It may be heretical to say this, but Sundfors take on 'Angels and Ashes' was just better than the original - each lineverse had differences whereas the original doesn't so much.

Not by much, but.

Jarv was ok, John Grant was the best bloke voice, Richard Hawley managed to get close to a cigar to Scotts voice.

Some songs worked better than others.

And now Reginald..

Mark G, Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:47 (two months ago) Permalink

The arrangement of "The Seventh Seal" might have been better than the original, it had a nice coda. The rest were probably a bit too reverent, John Grant was good but stuck so close to the recorded versions if Scott had sneezed in a song he'd have sneezed too.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 18:13 (two months ago) Permalink

but that was on 'The Drift'

Mark G, Saturday, 29 July 2017 18:27 (two months ago) Permalink

just listened to the prom. made me want to listen to all the original versions again...

koogs, Monday, 31 July 2017 09:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Oddly, while I could hear the shortcomings of the voices and the overly-reverent arrangements (but still mostly enjoyed it) listening live on R3 on Tuesday, when I watched it the TV version on iPlayer late on Friday night, I found it tremendously moving. It was perhaps only Grant's performances that didn't grab me, as he was the most nearly-Scott; everyone else had to do something different.

But, yeah, Saturday was spent packing boxes to the entirety of the Five Easy Pieces boxset.

Michael Jones, Monday, 31 July 2017 10:15 (two months ago) Permalink

gutted i missed this

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 31 July 2017 10:21 (two months ago) Permalink

it's on iplayer, radio and tv

koogs, Monday, 31 July 2017 10:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Haven't got a TV license :-/ and the BBC radio app insists I log in now, which is a bridge too far for me

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 31 July 2017 10:30 (two months ago) Permalink

You can skip that login at the moment, look underneath ...

Mark G, Monday, 31 July 2017 10:55 (two months ago) Permalink

get_iplayer...

koogs, Monday, 31 July 2017 14:23 (two months ago) Permalink

you need a tv license

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 31 July 2017 14:25 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMnTBzbpGKI

koogs, Monday, 31 July 2017 14:57 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, its all over YouTube.

Mark G, Monday, 31 July 2017 22:42 (two months ago) Permalink

ah that's okay then. thanks all

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 31 July 2017 23:23 (two months ago) Permalink

I can find individual links for video (like Susan's) but does a full video version exist on YT?

Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 02:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Yikes I can't get with Jarvis Cocker on these first few tunes (listening to the YT link). Like a wet rag on those beautiful arrangements.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:04 (two months ago) Permalink

He provided a number of genuine laugh-out-loud "oh dear" moments esp on "the war is over"

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:26 (two months ago) Permalink

It's a shame Goldfrapp didn't turn up for this. Susanne was perfect, I think that's the best version of that song

Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:20 (two months ago) Permalink


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