Which Queens of Stone Age album should I buy?

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I like the songs I have heard, and I liked Kyuss too. All Music Guide gave them all four stars. Which one is best?

No Fat Beaver, Friday, 5 December 2003 05:24 (fifteen years ago) link

not the latest but the one before it

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 5 December 2003 05:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Rated R

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 5 December 2003 05:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Buy any of them.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 5 December 2003 05:41 (fifteen years ago) link

and then buy the desert sessions 9 and 10.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 5 December 2003 06:00 (fifteen years ago) link

My friend always goes on about how the QotSA suck so hard, but I heard a couple of songs from desert sessions 9 and 10 and actually liked them. Does it sound anything like QotSA? I'm not sure I have ever heard them.

Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Friday, 5 December 2003 06:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Best one over all is Rated R, but all three of the QOTSA albums are bitchin'.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 5 December 2003 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I definitely think 7&8 is the best Desert Sessions, but Rated R tops all of them.

billstevejim, Friday, 5 December 2003 07:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Does it sound anything like QotSA?

well, yeah. but also no. 9&10 has some other folks on it and it ranges a little more widely than QotSA's albums do, and also has some pj harvey songs that actually interested me. for the first time since "rid of me."

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 5 December 2003 08:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I still would prefer the first one. They'll never touch Kyuss.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 5 December 2003 08:42 (fifteen years ago) link

You can't go wrong with any of them, seriously. The first and second are probably more likely to be available on the cheap, if my experience is anything to go by.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 5 December 2003 10:08 (fifteen years ago) link

the first one has a wonderful drone/heavy pills feel that i personally adore. Rated R is all over the map, but with songs like "Feel Good Hit of the Summer", "Into the Fade", "Tension Head" it's got it's share of goodness.
songs for the deaf, well, i burned it out.

as far as the DS's go, 1+2 are the strangest as far as songs, not as accessible. 3+4 have some good ones, but again, not great. 5+6 is where almost every song is great. 7+8 is spotty.

eedd, Friday, 5 December 2003 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link

My friend always goes on about how the QotSA suck so hard, but I heard a couple of songs from desert sessions 9 and 10 and actually liked them. Does it sound anything like QotSA? I'm not sure I have ever heard them.
-- Blood and sparkles (trixy-cybel...), December 5th, 2003

Your friend is severely retarded. Seek him help. QUICK. QotSA records are even better than the desert sessions. You are a soon-to-be fan.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 5 December 2003 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Is DS 5&6 the one that has the poetry on it? I couldn't get into that *at all*, and I really wanted to like it.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 5 December 2003 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

All three of their full lengths are great, but I think I've finally settled on Songs for the Deaf being my favorite, the first one second, and Rated R third --- it's not really that rocking IMO.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 5 December 2003 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Rated R has Better Living Through Chemistry On It = it is the best. Especially if you like Kyuss.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 5 December 2003 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll check out the rest of the d.s. 9-10. The songs I found didn't seem to contain PJ, but they remind me strongly of PJ songs, sung by a different vocalist. Which was more enjoyable to me than I expected.

Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Friday, 5 December 2003 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

The Queens mostly suck, but the debut has more tolerable moments than anything since.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 5 December 2003 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

My ranking:

1. Queens of the Stone Age
2. Songs of the Deaf
3. R

All three of their records are good and if you like one, you will probably like them all.

earlnash, Friday, 5 December 2003 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

R!

Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Saturday, 6 December 2003 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link

The first one, if you really like stoner rock. Dense riffs, rough production, beautiful stuff.

Rated R is more "out there". If you like your albums multidimensional, then you should start here, but if you really like Kyuss, you'll love the first one. "Songs for the deaf" is very good as well, though a bit lenghty.

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Saturday, 6 December 2003 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...
There is no bad QOTSA album, the 1st one if probably the best (to be stoned to at least!). DS 9&10 is abit more melodic than 7&8 which I prefer in honesty.

Jimbo, Saturday, 27 March 2004 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

earlnash OTM

In fact, I'm not convinced he isn't me.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Saturday, 27 March 2004 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

four years pass...

i bought "rated r" because i ran out of earth, sleep, electric wizard, om, high on fire, sunn, kyuss, earthless and st vitus albums to get.

so i went for QOTSA and i'm sorry to say this sounds a lot more like soundgarden than "stoner rock". am i missing something?

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 8 November 2008 07:35 (ten years ago) link

i don't hear anything particularly stoner rock like in rated r or the subsequent albums, so probably not

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Saturday, 8 November 2008 08:31 (ten years ago) link

Their first self-titled album is the only one you really need. And if you get way into it, the later ones might make more sense.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 8 November 2008 11:44 (ten years ago) link

WRONG.

am i missing something?

YES. they're really not the band you're looking for. might i suggest ramesses "we will lead you to glorious times"?

like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 8 November 2008 15:35 (ten years ago) link

i liked rated r. it was fun. i liked it more than any soundgarden i've ever heard. the rest of the queens stuff i can do without.

scott seward, Saturday, 8 November 2008 15:50 (ten years ago) link

"i bought "rated r" because i ran out of earth, sleep, electric wizard, om, high on fire, sunn, kyuss, earthless and st vitus albums to get."

yeah, i mean, queens aren't doom. that's yer problem right there. there is lots of great doom stuff to buy. (not that earthless, om, earth, and high on fire are really doom either, but all those bands are a lot heavier than queens.)

scott seward, Saturday, 8 November 2008 15:54 (ten years ago) link

xp: ^^^ well, i agree w/skot's rated r comment. he's WRONG about the rest, too, though.

like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 8 November 2008 15:55 (ten years ago) link

right about doom, though. stop commenting while i'm commenting.

like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 8 November 2008 15:55 (ten years ago) link

there is no end to great stoner/doom/heavy stuff in the world.

scott seward, Saturday, 8 November 2008 15:55 (ten years ago) link

everyone needs a little more wandering midget in their lives:

http://www.myspace.com/thewanderingmidget

scott seward, Saturday, 8 November 2008 16:00 (ten years ago) link

I might actually like "Songs for the Deaf" even more than "Rated R". It's got a real Stoogely swagger to it.

But no, none their stuff sounds anything like Sleep, Earth and the rest. They've a much warmer, almost garagey vibe.

Soukesian, Saturday, 8 November 2008 20:08 (ten years ago) link

1st album then songs then rated r imo

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 November 2008 20:18 (ten years ago) link

so i'm to understand that what i've been calling "stoner rock" is actually something called "doom" and that the queens are part of a genre i'm not really familiar with?

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 8 November 2008 20:54 (ten years ago) link

i dunno about any of this but i like the first queens album the most, the one w/ the crotch on the album cover

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Saturday, 8 November 2008 21:02 (ten years ago) link

wow that live version sounds anemic this one is way better

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Saturday, 8 November 2008 21:03 (ten years ago) link

Qotsa arent really stoner either, but theyre certainly not doom. Josh calls the 1st album "robot rock".
Kyuss were stoner rock. Unida are stoner rock. Electric Wizard and Sleep straddle the line of stoner and doom. Stoner generally has a less metal influence with a more MC5/Stooges/Hawkwind psychedelic/space rock with FUZZY guitar influence while Doom is more METAL. Like i said some bands do both.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 November 2008 21:17 (ten years ago) link

"i bought "rated r" because i ran out of earth, sleep, electric wizard, om, high on fire, sunn, kyuss, earthless and st vitus albums to get."

Yes, based on this statement, here are some albums you might prefer:

Goatsnake - I & Flower of Disease
Cathedral - Forest of Equilibrium
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Orange Goblin - The Big Black
Trouble - The Skull & Psalm 9

Nate Carson, Sunday, 9 November 2008 00:45 (ten years ago) link

orange goblin are the worst band ive ever seen. Supporting Unida (who were FANTASTIC)in 99 and then headlining over Nebula the following year. (Nebula pissed all over them)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 9 November 2008 00:54 (ten years ago) link

You're crazy. I only like that one album of theirs, but both shows I've seen (which granted were a few years later than you saw them), they absolutely leveled the place.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 9 November 2008 01:43 (ten years ago) link

Are they ever going to reissue that first QOTSA album? I never bought it when I had the chance, now its into pricey eBay territory it seems.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Sunday, 9 November 2008 01:44 (ten years ago) link

come to think of it, if someone asked me what queens of the stone age album to buy, i would just tell them to buy:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1026/770965664_65d1062ece.jpg?v=0

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31KB5RHNCKL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

scott seward, Sunday, 9 November 2008 02:26 (ten years ago) link

cuz i wouldn't want to live without them. can't say that about any queens album.

scott seward, Sunday, 9 November 2008 02:27 (ten years ago) link

scott what is that first one

HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 9 November 2008 03:18 (ten years ago) link

http://www.mastersofreality.de/assets/images/1988_mor_blue_garden.jpg

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Masters of Reality's self-titled debut

Stankonia Notch (unregistered), Sunday, 9 November 2008 05:47 (ten years ago) link

(you'd be excused, however, for assuming it was Miranda Sex Garden or some similar medieval awfulness)

Stankonia Notch (unregistered), Sunday, 9 November 2008 05:50 (ten years ago) link

thakig u!!

HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 9 November 2008 05:51 (ten years ago) link

i think some of the songs are really great but, take a song like "auto pilot". awesome idea, nice lyrics, good arrangement, great guitar lead. but then there's that omnipresent radio rock thing where they mix really clean-sounding guitars with distorted guitars playing the same thing, and there's whiny modern rock "i'm not really singing" thing going on where you can practically see the dude's beefy neck muscles straining out of his von dutch t-shirt. and i stop and go am i listening to a kyuss side project or a foo fighters side project?

i guess what keeps me listening after three days is that i have my odd moments of nostalgia for stuff like stone temple pilots ... but it's a slippery slope from here to the foo fighters, and thence to something like switchfoot, amirite?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 9 November 2008 06:00 (ten years ago) link

it's obvious that every cent of my money should be spent on ME. what part of "MINE ALL MINE" does the government not understand?

also we’re divorced now and i hate this movie. (contenderizer), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 23:27 (eight years ago) link

Lol Bill: "the only thing progressive about J Homme is the deterioration of his songwriting"

Last Friday Night (G.T.F.O.) (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:51 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

wow ..

http://www.likeclockwork.tv/

seems to have a 'video' for each track of the new album

mark e, Saturday, 18 May 2013 14:26 (six years ago) link

ok .. not every track is streaming
.. about half of the album.
love the dark look.
hopefully this 'film' will be included as a dvd extra when the new album is out.

mark e, Saturday, 18 May 2013 14:37 (six years ago) link

seriously .. no-one ..

this album is proper f*cking brilliant ..

cant believe no-one has added their 2 penneth re this album ..

mark e, Friday, 24 May 2013 17:59 (six years ago) link

Mark, I like you but you're so insanely wrong. It's even worse than the last one and that's really saying something.

Doran, Friday, 24 May 2013 18:02 (six years ago) link

fair enough mr doran.
i love the fact i am on the outside.

mark e, Friday, 24 May 2013 18:07 (six years ago) link

this album is easily my fave of the year so far.

mark e, Friday, 24 May 2013 18:07 (six years ago) link

I mean, the only people I've seen write a single good thing about it is you, the NME and a celebrity chef.

Doran, Friday, 24 May 2013 18:07 (six years ago) link

ok.
you're right.
i hate it.
it's shit.

(that said, after a few months of living with 'era vulgaris', i really grew to love it .. )

mark e, Friday, 24 May 2013 18:09 (six years ago) link

I feel bad now. Can you just go back to liking it again?

Doran, Friday, 24 May 2013 18:16 (six years ago) link

Love the new album! Show last night in LA was fuckin awesome.

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Friday, 24 May 2013 18:18 (six years ago) link

MOJO have given new LP 5/5

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Friday, 24 May 2013 18:19 (six years ago) link

i am not alone.

mark e, Friday, 24 May 2013 18:20 (six years ago) link

i am here with you

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Friday, 24 May 2013 18:21 (six years ago) link

How do we know the 7' tall ginger marauder isn't stood next to you glaring in your direction while you're typing this?

Doran, Friday, 24 May 2013 18:26 (six years ago) link

i love the whole vibe of the album.
its dark.
its fucked up.
no glam stompers, no easy radio friendly grooves.
but its still very much a qotsa album.

btw xpost : if the ginger tinted man giant were here @ ireallylovemusic hq then do you really think i would give a shit re ilm ?

mark e, Friday, 24 May 2013 18:29 (six years ago) link

I meant Stevie, seeing as I presume he's out in LA interviewing him for someone or other.

Doran, Friday, 24 May 2013 18:53 (six years ago) link

He's not that big, I could probably have him.

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Saturday, 25 May 2013 17:30 (six years ago) link

Was prettttty excited to hear that Homme nabbed Jon Theodore to play the drums. NPR broadcasted the first live footage I've heard with a decent drum mix a couple days ago, and it's good, the new record is good, the old chestnuts are good, but I would love to hear a new set of tunes from Homme that are muscular/buckwild enough to really let Theodore flex his nuts a little, I think that would be real special.

sheesh, Saturday, 25 May 2013 21:03 (six years ago) link

New one is pretty damn good huh?

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 3 June 2013 12:48 (six years ago) link

I can only ask this because the band is pretty different from album to album, but ... if I've never liked this band before, is there any reason to listen to this one?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 June 2013 13:07 (six years ago) link

its not as good as the 1st 3 albums so maybe you will like this if you didn't like their truly great stuff?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 3 June 2013 14:45 (six years ago) link

lol wow

josh it sounds like a queens of the stone age record so no probably not

i really like it regardless. "i sat by the ocean" has been in my head all day

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:00 (six years ago) link

yep this is just like every qotsa record but man it's a good one. way more consistent than the last few.

thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 22:16 (six years ago) link

i love the whole vibe of the album.
its dark.
its fucked up.
no glam stompers, no easy radio friendly grooves.
but its still very much a qotsa album.

mark e is otm -- new album is, ack, a very mature album in that it still knows its pedigree but the energy of the album is far more measured and thoughtful. It's almost like it's even more drugged-out and psychedelic without the spaz and bombast that can frequently make the mellower tunes much less impacting. On par or better than anything he's done.

bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 23:44 (six years ago) link

i've managed to avoid this band somehow completely over the past ten years but relented, I like the new one fine.

akm, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 23:48 (six years ago) link

Wow - I'm already a total fan, but the new one really shines! And that's after I corrected playing Rpm to 45 on rekkid!

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:30 (six years ago) link

I'll personally stick up for Era Vulgaris as a good album, though it certainly has more filler than the new one. Lullabies is a bit crap on the other hand.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:08 (six years ago) link

very glad this album is getting some love.
every day this week during my lunchtime browsing sessions, this album has been on the shops pa systems, and damn, it has sounded so good.
also, i eventually succumbed to the charms of era vulgaria
... took a bit longer than normal, but damn, it has some serious classics.

mark e, Thursday, 6 June 2013 07:00 (six years ago) link

i wasn't sold at first but second listen is yielding good vibes

about as good as you could want a later-era QOTSA album to be. i love the old kyuss/rated r sound better than these last few albums, but I'm down with this for sure

that closing song reminds me of pink floyd, dark side of the moon kinda vibe

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 June 2013 02:16 (six years ago) link

it's very pretty on first listen

da croupier, Friday, 7 June 2013 02:56 (six years ago) link

haven't listened to these guys since songs for the deaf, but on first listen I'm digging this new album's gentleman stoner elegance

anonanon, Friday, 7 June 2013 04:42 (six years ago) link

its a great album. its a greater album when you realise that a large amount of the songs are josh's way of dealing with the fact he died on the operating table for some minutes a few years back.

waterprick (stevie), Friday, 7 June 2013 05:04 (six years ago) link

its a great album. its a greater album when you realise that a large amount of the songs are josh's way of dealing with the fact he died on the operating table for some minutes a few years back.

Accepted in principal; but citations required.

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 7 June 2013 06:14 (six years ago) link

"Gentleman Stoner Elegance" should be a top trend for 2014. Let's make this happen people!

Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 June 2013 06:20 (six years ago) link

new blunted gentry

anonanon, Friday, 7 June 2013 06:33 (six years ago) link

I Sat By the Ocean and Kalopsia are my favourites.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 7 June 2013 14:18 (six years ago) link

Accepted in principal; but citations required.

Check the lyrics to I Appear Missing in particular.

waterprick (stevie), Friday, 7 June 2013 14:26 (six years ago) link

From Wiki:

In 2010, frontman Josh Homme was hospitalized for thirteen days, and subsequently bedridden for four months, following complications during a routine knee surgical procedure.[4] Homme noted, "I woke up and there was a doctor going, ‘Shit, we lost you.' I couldn’t get up for four months. When I did, I hadn’t got a clue what was going on." During this time, Homme sank into a deep depression, noting "I would never say, 'I'm probably not gonna make it out of here.' But back then, I would definitely think it."[4] The remaining members of Queens of the Stone Age - guitarist Troy Van Leeuwen, drummer Joey Castillo, bassist Michael Shuman and guitarist and keyboardist Dean Fertita - encouraged Homme to return to the band to begin work on a sixth studio album.[5] Homme noted, "I had to ask them 'If you want to make a record with me right now, in the state I’m in, come into the fog. It’s the only chance you got.' It brought us much closer, because you never really know someone till everything goes wrong."[6]

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 June 2013 18:05 (six years ago) link

they played the whole album live last night:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01b7kmv

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 09:12 (six years ago) link

This is growing into a titan of a record.

Mule, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 13:43 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

this is a terrific album. however, i think the track order hurts it. it takes too long to really get going. it's okay leading off with Keep Your Eyes Peeled, and I Sat By The Ocean is a great way to follow it, but you can't piss away the momentum by then going straight into another more meandering track like Vampyre. having diagnosed the disorder i have fixed it. it's only an adjustment, not an overhaul, but i think it's a big improvement and, of course, you are welcome.

Keep Your Eyes Peeled
I Sat By The Ocean
My God Is The Sun
Kalopsia
If I Had A Tail
Fairweather Friends
Smooth Sailing
The Vampyre Of Time And Memory
I Appear Missing
...Like Clockwork

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 31 July 2013 01:17 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

Amazing performance from "Like Clockwork"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqFnDWdUBi8

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 19:02 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

s & d :: desert sessions is a thread I keep reviving and receiving very little interest, so I'm reaching out to its members' home threads.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:24 (two weeks ago) link

No help for that, but I have noticed that Songs For The Death is probably a key influence on the new Sturgill.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:29 (two weeks ago) link

I made it through the first few minutes of the Sturgill record before I needed a break. Are you saying I should dive deeper?

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:34 (two weeks ago) link

No, put on Songs For The Deaf.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:40 (two weeks ago) link

That works for me!

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:43 (two weeks ago) link


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