― youngVITALrockskisterism one, Thursday, 4 December 2003 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― bugged out, Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link
There's really no general Greg Tate thread, so this will have to do for this very crushing news
Absolutely gutted to learn (from a trusted source) that Greg Tate has left this dimension. What a hero he’s been — a fiercely original critical voice, a deep musician, an encouraging big brother to so many of us. Total shock. pic.twitter.com/JMzCnj3Asb— Nate Chinen (@natechinen) December 7, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 16:54 (one month ago) link
Ah no way.
Rest In Peace, Greg. I’m happy I got to sing his praises directly to him the couple of times we met. Awful news.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 17:08 (one month ago) link
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 17:10 (one month ago) link
I've been re-reading both those books this past week. Tate was absolutely my #1 influence as a writer, and a tremendously nice guy. This is a massive loss. Gonna need to dive deep into the Burnt Sugar catalog, I think.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 17:14 (one month ago) link
This really sucks. Just a tremendous writer. His embrace of Miles' 70s period was so ahead of its time and literally the only commentary I could find in the early 90s that was actually positive.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 17:16 (one month ago) link
Loved his writing about Jimi Hendrix.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 17:18 (one month ago) link
I loved his writing about everything. One of the few writers who left me at once heady, envious, and grateful.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 17:19 (one month ago) link
I haven’t read his books, but always really enjoyed his record reviews. RIP
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 17:20 (one month ago) link
The two anthologies, Flyboy in the Buttermilk and Flyboy 2, are essential; they'll absolutely spin your head around a hundred times. But Midnight Lightning, his book on Hendrix, is not to be overlooked. I think it and Charles Shaar Murray's Crosstown Traffic are the only two books on Hendrix anyone needs; I went back to both again and again while writing my book on electric Miles (which has a chapter called "Miles, Jimi, and Sly").
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 17:43 (one month ago) link
Charles Shaar Murray said that if Midnight Lightning had existed prior to 1989, Murray wouldn't have written/needed to write Crosstown Traffic.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 17:50 (one month ago) link
Damn. Was just reading him on social media like 5 days ago. He had Dayton, Ohio and then DC roots and spoke up for the funk from both locales. Started reading him in the Voice in the early 80s . An inspiration
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:05 (one month ago) link
Thulani Davis led me to Greg Tate. With his first submission the word "genius" swam in my head. "The more writing like this I get the happier I'll be," I told him. And I did get more--lots. Problem was, all of it was by Greg. He was so inimitable few even tried to rip him off.— Robert Christgau (@rxgau) December 7, 2021
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:31 (one month ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 00:31 (one month ago) link
His piece on Miles Davis' electric period was so great it made me want to acquire every single one of those records, which I eventually did
― Josefa, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 00:38 (one month ago) link
I wrote a little somethingfor Greg to take with him on his ride homesort of an aural flashlight to help him read his map Peace and Power Greg Tatehttps://t.co/4alhMBXy2b— melvin gibbs (@melvingibbs) December 7, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 02:05 (one month ago) link
A marvelous obit: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/greg-tate-tribute-rob-sheffield-1268200
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 02:13 (one month ago) link
In the introduction to Psychotic Reactions and Carburetor Dung, the first anthology of Lester Bangs' work, Greil Marcus wrote, "'What this book demands from a reader is a willingness to accept that the best writer in America could write almost nothing but record reviews." I feel like that sentence is a thousand times truer when applied to Tate than to Bangs.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 02:35 (one month ago) link
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 02:42 (one month ago) link
Photos of an excerpt from my 1993 phone interview/ story on Greg Tate for fanzine Uno Mas appear with the tweet
Writer/author/musician/ teacher/ activist Greg Tate just passed away @ age 64. In 1993 when his Flyboy in the Buttermilk book came out, I spoke to him on the phone for Uno Mas fanzine. This Howard U grad, & longtime Village Voice writer explained his style : pic.twitter.com/oaPdGg0Smi— Steve Kiviat (@SteveKiviat) December 8, 2021
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 14:52 (one month ago) link
For the past 6-7 years, some of Greg Tate's most immediate "published" thinking/writing was taking place on FB, a major reason we remained on the app. Y'day, @jsmooth995 elevated this Tate post from July '16. Fantastic in myriad ways, it serves as a helluva "keep going" sign-off pic.twitter.com/gcw34vAq15— Dada Strain (@dada_strain) December 8, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 15:23 (one month ago) link
Aw, this intro was in Robert Christgau's new Consumer Guide report:
The dismaying and totally unexpected news of Greg Tate’s death reached me the day after I finished this Consumer Guide and the day before it was scheduled to go up. But although it included Greg’s latest Burnt Sugar album I felt no need to rewrite even a word, because my breakthrough to Angels Over Oakanda occurred exactly as described. It had been years since I’d seen him for more than a quick hello, although I did do a Zoom panel with him a few months ago. But I was so blown away by not just his acuity but his warmth in the Miles Davis documentary Birth of the Cool that I decided to relisten to the new one with ‘70s Miles in mind, and not only did I hear the connection I intuited would be there, I loved it—the vamp tracks began to function as a kind of chill-out music that I replayed more than any review required. Hence Burnt Sugar’s first full A, arrived at exactly a week ago. I was so looking forward to laying it on him, just as a gesture to a man and colleague I’ve marveled at for 40 years.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 16:12 (one month ago) link
The new Burnt Sugar really is good; I reviewed it back in October.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:14 (one month ago) link
Love that Tate is getting the full obituary feature treatment on NPR. Fully deserved.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 21:43 (one month ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 23:54 (one month ago) link
Listened to this this morning while cleaning, really amazing
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 9 December 2021 00:37 (one month ago) link
Love and Theft release date 01/09/11, Tate's dossier follows:https://www.villagevoice.com/2001/09/25/intelligence-data/
― dow, Thursday, 9 December 2021 01:04 (one month ago) link
In 2013 Tate and Burnt Sugar teamed up with DC go-go musicians and some DC poets for a special gig -Drums along the Potomac, a Go-go Fantasia. They did a gig in NY and one in DC . I saw the DC one and it was a lot of fun—noisy and funky. I did an email interview with Tate before the shows.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 10 December 2021 05:23 (one month ago) link
― Raw Like Siouxsie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 December 2021 05:30 (one month ago) link
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 10 December 2021 07:16 (one month ago) link
Glad the Wire made those articles available
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 11 December 2021 00:26 (one month ago) link
Yeah---I know Burnt Sugar relatively better-- in recent times, esp. via https://burntsugarthearkestrachamber.bandcamp.com/ Top Tenned All Your Zombies, Dig The Luminosity several years ago: dialectic sparks of Afropunks x Afrofuturists (some of whom may be played by the same people, a la Parliament-Funkadelic): "It's A Family Affair" indeed. Some of their instrumental epics challenge my sense of dimensionality altogether, while immersing me in it (recent example: The Rites), but then again, this year'sAngels of Okanda just seems---pleasant---will have to try again. Meanwhile, archival 2021 release Making Love To The Dark Ages incl at very least an LP's-worth of instrumental goodness-to-greatness(good measure, in this vinyl-high, "post-album" age)---that is, my fave raves so far are the second half, at least impact-wise: "Dominata (the gabri ballad)"(15:47), and the two-part title work: https://burntsugarthearkestrachamber.bandcamp.com/album/making-love-to-the-dark-ages-livewired-2009
― dow, Saturday, 11 December 2021 01:09 (one month ago) link
Other archival 2021 releases, ones I need to get to next: Twentieth Anniversary Mixtapes Groiddest Schizznits, Volumes One, Two, and Three.
― dow, Saturday, 11 December 2021 01:13 (one month ago) link
Back in 2011 or 2012 I conducted long email interviews with Tate and Burnt Sugar co-leader Jared Michael Nickerson about the band's first decade for the fifth issue of the Burning Ambulance print zine; I'm currently preparing an online version that I'll post early next week.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 11 December 2021 01:50 (one month ago) link
Great, looking fwd! Now listening to yet another of their 2021 releases, younger contingent up front this time, Tate & other elders still along for the ride: https://burntsugarthearkestrachamber.bandcamp.com/album/the-darknuss Brides of Funkensteinoid for openers--
― dow, Saturday, 11 December 2021 02:19 (one month ago) link
"No coluds, no coluds allowwwed,"The Darknuss, by REBELLUM ~ Burnt Sugar Arkestra's Avant Funk & Roll Splinter Cell
― dow, Saturday, 11 December 2021 02:24 (one month ago) link
Idly wondering if the Clinton interview in Flyboy is the origin of the Eddie Hazel 'imagine your mother died' story? I'm hardly an expert but I don't recall the second part of Clinton's direction - 'and then you find out she ain't dead' - as part of the usual mythography.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:06 (one month ago) link
Scratch that - the Tate interview is '85. Still, don't think I've heard that half of the anecdote before.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 11 December 2021 23:22 (one month ago) link
The fucking Today Show just ran a segment on Tate - part of their "A Life Well Lived" series on celebrity/notable deaths.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 12 December 2021 13:48 (one month ago) link
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 December 2021 13:52 (one month ago) link
A lot of folks have focused on his writing about hip-hop, but I'm going to be talking about his jazz writing (and our interactions — he blurbed my Miles Davis book, and contributed a piece to Marooned, and we hung out a few times) in my upcoming Stereogum column.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 12 December 2021 13:58 (one month ago) link
Just now sent out via Greg Tate's publicist, @HowardWuelfing pic.twitter.com/AMhs21Zpot— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) December 13, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 December 2021 16:21 (one month ago) link
The long-ass interview (7500 words, it turns out) with Tate and Jared Michael Nickerson about Burnt Sugar's first decade is up now on the Burning Ambulance site.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 12:41 (one month ago) link
Voice writers and editors remember Greg Tate, in a succinctly conversational way ( and now I'm interested in that oral history of the Voice that Tricia Romano says he encouraged her to undertake)---and we get to see his 1983 P&J ballot (good choices!); also, though I'm not a fan of Sasha Free-Jones, he makes a good point about Tate's coverage of early 80s Downtown jazz, even though he's much more predictably associated with Public Enemy etc.https://www.villagevoice.com/2021/12/13/flying-high-remembering-greg-tate/
― dow, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 18:10 (one month ago) link
I wrote a little more about Tate, specifically his jazz writing, in my final Stereogum column of the year.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 15:13 (four weeks ago) link
A terrific essay, unperson. I reread the King Sunny Ade piece yesterday as it happens.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 15:20 (four weeks ago) link
Seconded. I came for the Tate and stayed for the rest of it as well.
― Blue Suede Q*bert (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 16:42 (four weeks ago) link
Fantastic piece unperson. I'm reading Fly Boy 1 now as well. Have read quite a few bits of Tate over the years but never the collections and uh, yeah, wow.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 17:52 (four weeks ago) link
more good stuff here: https://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/interviews/greg-tate-s-invisible-jukebox-with-alan-licht
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 December 2021 17:15 (four weeks ago) link
Tate’s Hendrix book send to be out of print.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 24 December 2021 19:35 (three weeks ago) link
I scanned a library copy and I'm sharing it on s0uls33k fwiw. If anyone is looking.
― Freeze Instr., Saturday, 25 December 2021 06:45 (three weeks ago) link
The Greg Tate jukebox is so good!
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 26 December 2021 23:57 (three weeks ago) link
Seriously. It’s so rare to see critics talk about music with that level of knowledge and perceptiveness
― Josefa, Monday, 27 December 2021 00:10 (three weeks ago) link
Haven’t read any of his stuff in decades, kind of amazing how it holds up, how much I absorbed by osmosis the first time around or through the wider culture or something.
― Heatmiserlou (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 December 2021 00:21 (three weeks ago) link
CULTUREGreg Tate (1957–2021)December 14, 2021DAPHNE A. BROOKS, ROBERT CHRISTGAU, SASHA FRERE-JONES, AND CARL WILSONhttps://www.bookforum.com/culture/greg-tate-1957-2021-24752More by Xgau, w links to Sheffield:https://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/misc/tate-21.phpOh and I did get into Angels Over Oakanda more, duhhhh(But also, don't sleep on Making Love To The Dark Ages and their "Splinter Cell" Rebellum's The Darkness--all three are in Burnt Sugar The Arkestra Chamber's Bandcamp trove.)
― dow, Friday, 31 December 2021 23:12 (two weeks ago) link
My just posted piece for Washington City Paper on how Greg Tate’s life in DC impacted his future. I talked to a lot of people for the story. Original draft , later shortened by my editor for space reasons, had more from actor and former programmer of NY’s the Kitchen on seeing go-go with Tate and more on P-Funk. Still covers his roots and more I think.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 00:18 (two weeks ago) link
― (I'm Not Your) Steppin' Razor (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 00:50 (two weeks ago) link
Did not realize till someone told me, that actor Bob Wisdom (of the Wire fame and other shows and movies) was Tate's roommate for a bit in NYC and was a programmer at the Kitchen. He had lots of stories (several of which I wish I could have fit in the article). Wasn't able to speak with video artist and cinematographer Arthur Jafa who was best friends with Tate from Howard U days on through to recent NY projects together
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 02:48 (two weeks ago) link
long Robin D. G. Kelley interview with Bongani Madondo about Tate: https://bostonreview.net/articles/the-invisible-hand-of-greg-tate/
― Brad C., Wednesday, 5 January 2022 15:48 (two weeks ago) link
Haven’t heard it yet but there’s an aquarium drunkard podcast interview with Tate now available ( recorded the day before he passed)
Also, Tate might be in November or December issue of UK magazine I-d , guest -edited by Arthur Jafa, video artist recently profiled in NY Times, who went to Howard with Tate, talked on panels with him, and was friends with Tate since college.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 January 2022 14:38 (one week ago) link