― D Aziz (esquire1983), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link
totally avoid the album they did with Bill Laswell (Shabeesation). sick, slick middle eastern techno crap.
― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Furthermore, I second Ned's call for the Scientist, his knowledge of the subject is pretty immense. The only name that comes to my mind is Oum Khaltsoum (spelling varies, search the thread, actually that thread is pretty informative in general so: here it is)
― willem (willem), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:19 (sixteen years ago) link
And when you find her CD, copy it for me!!
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link
― udu wudu (udu wudu), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link
If pop music is more your thing, try and get hold of some Amr Diab. he is the Egyptian Justin Timberlake, except that he is old.
Also, just see if you can get any of those "Now That's What I Call Arabian Pop" compilations.
If you get one that has Free Baby's 'Papa Fein' on it will you burn me a copy? It was the song of my holiday in Lebanon.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link
you are correctamundo, sir
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link
D Aziz, are you looking for things without vocals? Most of what I listen to has vocals.
― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:13 (sixteen years ago) link
islam - musiques et chants - on the french label auvidis tempo, 1997 - this is the best mix of old school arabic styles on any single disc i've heard, all in a nicely fuzzy/authentic, non-slick, non-digital archival format. ranges from minaret announcements to a few african things to a saudi orchestra using western instruments in a very middle of the century "light music" style... but it coheres very well for me.
masters of turkish music - pre 1950s. if you like rembetika, get this.
ustad omar - virtuoso from afghanistan [recently reissued, 1974] if you like ravi shankar, get this.
farid al atrache - addi errabi - early 70s egyptian classic, a powerful singer in the oum khaltoum style
hassan ramzy - if you're looking for something more on the fun side, ie the highest quality record in the "cassette from behind the counter at the asian market" style with synths and clapping, i recommend this guy. he does experiments like recording a cd with an accordion player, but is basically the frankie yankovic of belly dance.
iran: persian classical music, faramarz payvar ensemble - also from the mid 70s, nonesuch reissue, this is very typical-sounding but real good, solos on various instruments with the zither standing out, and a few with a female singer
rough guide to sufi music/ r.g.t. pakistan - this series is way hit and miss, but these are very solid comps, should be easy to find, have excellent sound and variety. by the way, i have also heard the rough guide to arabesque, which includes a track by the a.k.'s jarring effects, as ref'd above, and i liked it ok but it wasn't quite as cool as a couple other tracks on that [very hit or miss] record... the track, "a muey muey" was a bit dated sounding, influenced by early 90s house, and i myself would balk at a whole lp of that stuff.
anouar brahem - astrakhan cafe - just oud & clarinet & perc, very spare and thoughtful. on ecm records, so aimed at the modern classical buyer, and therefore somewhat "mediated" i would say in the performance: how can i put this... it's university stuff, not authentic, but i like it.
and i must say, if you've never heard the peter gabriel soundtrack lp "passion", ignore the fact that it's a peter gabriel album and consider buying it; it is extremely good and quite impressive, mixing samples, synths and the odd boy's choir on top of a bunch of very diverse jams and compositions with all kinds of famous people who were thereby introduced to the west.
― mig, Thursday, 4 December 2003 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link
I wonder what you have been listening to from there that sounds too nicely produced! At any rate, that tend to be my favorite area of Arabic music.
I was at Borders earlier today and I saw a couple new Farid el Atrache compilations apparently being marketed in the west more than his stuff normally is. It's part of a series, but I forget the name of it now. I think it's an EMI thing.
― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Oum Kalthoum: ZikrayatZaloumni al NassYalli Kan YeshjikUdkhuriniSoundtrack: WidadSoundtrack: FatimaRaqq el HabibQussat al-AmsNahj el-Burda [live]Ila Arafat AllahHayyart QalbiHallit Layali el-QamarHagartakGulubt Asalih Fi RouhiGaddedte Hubbak LehAgharu Min Nasmat el-GanoubAghani Wataniyyah (National Songs), Vol. 2 and 3Fairouz: Ana Ou Sehrani Chante Philemon Wehbe Chante Zaki NassifChristmas CarolsChristmas Hymns Damascus Festival 1960In concert at the Olympia-Paris Houmoum El HobImmortal SongsJerusalem in My HeartQasaedRajiounSafarbarlek/Bint El-Harass Chat IskandariaYa Tara NessinaYes’ed SabahakFarid El Atrache: Hallet Layali HelwaSountracks: Risala Min Imra’aa Majhoula & Yown Bila GhadFook Ghousanaka Ya LainomaAdnayani Bil HajarYa Weili Min HobonTaksim/Kelmet ItabMohammed Abdel Wahab: CleopatraKoulina Lahib al KamarFil Bahr Lam AftakimArchives of Arabic Music vols. 8-10Abdel Halim Hafez: Fatet GanbenaHawal TeftakernyAbed Azrie: Epic of GilgameshMahmoud Fadl: Um Kulthum 4000Love Letter From King TutThe Drummers of the Nile Go SouthThe Drummers of the NileMarcel Khalife: Stripped BareNazem al-Ghazali: Best of v.1 and v.2Omar Bashir and Sahar Taha: BaghdadiyatSaddon Jabir: Nazem al-Ghazali Songs v.1Sayed Darwiche: The Classic Egyptian Songs from the 20th CenturySamir Siblini: Zaman al-Samt-Taqsim NeyThe 4 SeasonsVarious Artists: From the Libyan Folklore MusicVarious Artists: al WahaIbraham Hassan: Damascus PassageWadi el-Safi: Natrak SahranMohamed Matar: Mohamed Matar Plays BouzoukVarious Artists: The Finest Mawawel from Iraq, Vol.1Basem al Ali: The Finest Mawawel from Iraq, Vol.2Mohammed el-Bakar: Port SaidAdib al-Dayikh: Courtly LoveSheikh Ahmad al-Tuni: The Sultan of All MunshidanNassima: Andalusian Music from AlgeriaVarious: Maqams of SyriaVarious: Music of the Nile: Original African Sanctus Journey--[Field Recordings by DavidFanshawe]Farid Ghosen: The Storm “Al Asfia”George Michel: Melodies of the OudSami Shawa: Masters of the Arabic ViolinKarim Mahmoud: Egyptian Oud and VocalFilfel Gourgy: The World is HappySheikha Ahmad Barrayn: Sufi Songs (I heard some clips from this at the www.rashid.com website and thought it sounded really good)
Plus some Qur'anic recitation:
Shaykh Saad al-Ghamdy: Arabic Quran Recitation SetMustafa Ozcan: Kuran-i-Kerim Assorted Short Surahs & AzamMohammed al-Barak: Barak - Part 29 (Juz Tabarakh)Various: Calls of the Holy MosquesKhalil al-Hussary: Complete Qur’an (Slow Tarteel)Abdur-Rahman al-Sudais: Surah Baqarah
And related music:
Issa Hassan: The Art of the Buzuq (Kurdish Lebanese musician, if I recall correctly)Ooleya Mint Amartichitt: Praise Songs (Mauritanian)Parvin Javden and Zohreh Bayat with the Avaye Doost Ensemble (Iranian)Kudsi & Suleyman Erguner: Sufi Music of Turkey
I mostly rely on www.maqam.com or www.rashid.com for this stuff. (I am in the U.S. These are both U.S. distributors.)
― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 4 December 2003 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link
― D Aziz (esquire1983), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:16 (sixteen years ago) link
I hope you took a look at the Oum Kalthoum thread, because it has lots of other stuff. Also, for Arabic music, just put those words into the search enging at the bottom of the page. You won't find much on Persian music, even if you try under that phrase, though you will find other mentions of Sufi music, especially qawalli. In Persina Classical music I can recommend Mohammed Reza Shahjarian, but his name is so well-known that I feel a little stupid bringing it up (especially since otherwise I hardly know anything about that music).
― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:43 (sixteen years ago) link
― truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
― Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ TRU INDEED GOD, TRU INDEED
― luriqua, Thursday, 6 September 2007 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
Plz consolidate the information in this thread below or I google for a refined sandblogger
― luriqua, Thursday, 6 September 2007 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
Rockist Scientist: Which of those titles are not 'World Music' knamean?? What do terrorists bump / which sufi's are not fundamentalist wannabes?
― luriqua, Thursday, 6 September 2007 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
If I understand your question, I would say most of the titles I listed aren't "world music." Anyway, it's mostly music that was made for an Arab (or other non-western) audience. It's frightening how many of those CDs on my list I went on to buy.
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 6 September 2007 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
if i'm looking for more music similar to this spectacular track (warning: it's 30mb, 20 mins), what would you recommend? everything i've found on my own has been too timid (although some of it is still very good), i want the crazy intense chanting
― lucas pine, Thursday, 6 September 2007 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
Arabic is so cool looking, like snake trails in the desert.
This one woman told me her reading of arabic has thousands of meanings of many words. Is there a definitive sufi artist in translation
― luriqua, Thursday, 6 September 2007 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
one of my favorite cds bar none:
― am0n, Thursday, 6 September 2007 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't heard that many Sufi ritual recordings, sorry. I would just like for other examples of zikhr (or sometimes dikhr, I think).
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 6 September 2007 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
Listening now. You might like some crazy Libyan stuff I bought a while back. It's not Sufi though. Wow, this sounds pretty crazy. I will come back to it another time. It's not what I'm in the mood for at the moment. The distortion kind of makes it.
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 6 September 2007 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
I GOT STUFF - WILL GMAIL IF YOU WANT
― Heave Ho, Thursday, 6 September 2007 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
from another recording of the gnaoua brotherhood, not as good as ^ cuz its produced by bill laswell :( but still good music - mimoun mamrba
― am0n, Thursday, 6 September 2007 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
HH, wat u have
― am0n, Thursday, 6 September 2007 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
05 - La Châdhiliyya - Al-Hadra.mp3
Cofradía Sufí-Andalusí Al-Shushtari (Omar Metioui) - Iii- Al-Imara, Danza Sufí O Hadra (Extasis O Trance).mp3
― Heave Ho, Thursday, 6 September 2007 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
― luriqua, Thursday, 6 September 2007 01:42 (twelve years ago) link
Hubbu Hubbu ya Ashab - Hayya `alal Jihad 8
― Heave Ho, Thursday, 6 September 2007 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
Can anyone direct me to stuff in this vein but with a focus on guitar/vocals, or I guess it might be oud in this context ?
― oscar, Thursday, 6 September 2007 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
05 - la chadhiliyya - al-hadra.mp3 - 21.60MB
― Heave Ho, Thursday, 6 September 2007 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
this jihad shit is dope as hell. http://www.zshare.net/audio/350093090d4a2f/
alex baltimore if you sample jack me i'll ddos you if u ever go on irc
― luriqua, Thursday, 6 September 2007 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.deenport.com/subsections/__mp3/index.php most of this is recordings of real group dhikr sessions of syrian shadhili sufis
especially recommended the ones titled The "Hu" Track and "Drunk on the Wine of Divine Unity - La ilaha illa Allah"
video of the same people:
'Iqd Jawhar one of my favourites
― Heave Ho, Thursday, 6 September 2007 09:46 (twelve years ago) link
― Heave Ho, Thursday, 6 September 2007 11:56 (twelve years ago) link
Does anyone have any Druze funeral music? It's supposed to be very distinctive, but I've never heard any.
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 6 September 2007 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
-- Heave Ho, Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:32 AM (14 hours ago)
― lucas pine, Thursday, 6 September 2007 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
listening to the Persian Electronic Music compilation on Sub Rosa right now. really excellent.
― matinee, Sunday, 29 June 2008 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
Rachid Taha's Diwan 2 fits into this category, right? Great disc, especially the second song, Rani.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 29 June 2008 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
― slecked, Sunday, 29 June 2008 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
Has anybody seen this or heard the soundtrack?
NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT PERSIAN CATS
- a film about Tehran’s underground indie music scene
centers around rock band Take It Easy Hospital.
PERSIAN CATS follows young singer Negar and her musician boyfriend Ashkan (Take It Easy Hospital), who attempt to form a rock band after being released from prison. Forbidden by the authorities to play in Iran, and dreaming of performing in Europe, they plan their escape. The necessary paperwork proves impossible to come by legitimately, so they team up with Nader, a fast-talking music promoter, who may be able to provide the connections they need. With passports and visas being made to order, the trio trawl the Tehran underworld, listening to local rockers, metal-heads, rappers, singer-songwriters, musicians of every sort—all of whom will go to any length to perform their music. But with deadlines looming and authorities on their heels, Negar and Ashkan’s hopes of completing their mission may soon be shattered
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 14:29 (ten years ago) link
Saw the movie a couple nights ago, can't comment on the actual soundtrack, but I'll give a quick overview of the bands.
The main band, Take It Easy Hospital, plays pleasant, decently catchy indie-pop with dual male/female vocals.There is another indieish band, The Yellow Dogs Band, who have a more Chicago math-rock sound. Decent, not great.Hichkas, the rapper in the movie, is pretty mediocreThere is a metal band, I don't think they're on the soundtrack; their music is paint by the numbers metal, totally forgettable.The Free Keys, IIRC, is like this jazz-prog thing, not that good.Rana Farhan is a single woman doing traditional Persian songs.
To be serious, none of the music is good, but I think that's partially a symptom of not having the networks of criticism and development that are found in American and European countries. You can tell that some of the bands have some song-writing chops but there doesn't seem to be a large 'scene' where they can fully develop their skills.
I enjoyed the movie, it was a decent enough commentary on the pressures faced by underground musicians, but I always have problems with documentaries (or in the case of ...Persian Cats, a semi-documentary) celebrating these bands playing Western music just because they're playing music that's not allowed by the government or encouraged by the larger population. Yeah, good for these mostly middle and upper-middle class kids, but there's never enough critical distance, imo.
― Ivor, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 17:57 (ten years ago) link
Oh, the metal band I was talking about isn't even a paint by the numbers metal band, that would be much better; they're actually a Linkin Park inspired metal band, complete with singer AND rapper.
― Ivor, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 19:08 (ten years ago) link
Afghan singer Ghazal and Tajik singer Jonibek touring North America.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 21 May 2010 15:09 (ten years ago) link
damn it I read this as Arab, Persian, Surf music and got really excited
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 21 May 2010 15:46 (ten years ago) link
Omar Souleyman was amazing at ATP the other night.
― Neil S, Friday, 21 May 2010 15:49 (ten years ago) link
Wish he would come to Washington DC
― curmudgeon, Friday, 21 May 2010 16:33 (ten years ago) link
I recommend the compilation called 'Pomegranates.' Nice selection of Persian pop & psych from the '60s & '70s.
― ImprovSpirit, Monday, 24 May 2010 01:52 (ten years ago) link
Update on Superstar Tour 2010- The tour has been postponed until further notice, This was a decision made on behalf of Aftab Media Group, Ghazal, Jonibek and Adeeb and Samim Juyan. We will update you with more information about the tour soon. Thank you to all the supporters who came out in VA and NY. From Facebook
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 06:11 (ten years ago) link
Iranian protest music in various genres
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 6 June 2010 14:12 (nine years ago) link
please identify this piece of persian pop (@ 1:40)
― meisenfek, Sunday, 19 September 2010 23:28 (nine years ago) link
"some deliciously undulating background vocals bathed in reverb"
― meisenfek, Sunday, 19 September 2010 23:29 (nine years ago) link
I've finally heard some classical Sufi music from Kashmir, and as I noticed before, just from brief clips, it's a curious mix of Indian classical instrumentation and vocals that seem to me to be closest to Andalusian classical (maybe even specifically the Algerian variety, though I know that sounds a bit odd). I'm not sure I particularly like it, but it's a curious hybrid, for sure.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 September 2011 05:30 (eight years ago) link
(I mean Arab-Andalusian classical obviously, not like flamenco or something.)
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 10 September 2011 05:32 (eight years ago) link
Iranian Music (All Kinds)
Persian singer Homayoun Shajarian is going to be in Washington DC at Lisner February 19 and probably doing other US dates
― curmudgeon, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:29 (eight years ago) link
US tour includes NY, Chuicago, LA, Berkeley and Houston
I like his voice from what I have heard on youtube. Quite a range
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 11 February 2012 01:31 (eight years ago) link
It really is quite impressive
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:10 (eight years ago) link
Shhhh, don't tell the Israelis or the Iranians but Homayoun Shajarian's vocals kind of remind me of some Jewish cantors I have heard (and vice versa)
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 19:41 (eight years ago) link
Have you ever checked out Ayelet Rose Gottlieb's Mayim Rabim? Yes, it's got a modern chamber music/avantjazz thing going, but I still think you'd like it. It's pretty accessible. It doesn't get into the extreme reaches of those genres. It includes some vocals coming from Persian Jewish vocal traditions.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 20:02 (eight years ago) link
I have not. Thanks, will check her out.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:38 (eight years ago) link
Mordy and I are her main, possibly only, boosters on ILM.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:04 (eight years ago) link
I see that Shajarian whom I wrote about above once had a show cancelled in Iran because he has 2 women in his band.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 February 2012 20:06 (eight years ago) link
Still need to listen to Gottlieb.
I haven't checked tumblr or twitter but it looks like my little Washington City Paper preview of Shajarian is his only non-Farsi press so far for this US tour.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:52 (eight years ago) link
Persian/Iranian music coming to W. DC
Mon. Nov. 12th Mighty Sam McLain (soul) with Mahsa Vahdat (Iranian/Persian) doing unique, powerful duets melding the two genres at the Atlas Theatre 1333 H St NE, Washington, DC______________________________________________
Tues. Nov. 13
Rita (Israeli singer born in Iran who sings pop-traditional Persian songs in Farsi on her latest album) at Strathmore
__________________________________________________________Thurs. Nov. 15
Mitra Sumatra (pre-revolutionary Iranian pop and funk) for free from 6 to 7 (and webcast) at the Kennedy Center Millennium Stage and at 10 at Tropicalia nightclub also for free
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:37 (seven years ago) link
Need to post some Youtubes for Rudiph to weigh in. Mitra Sumatra feature a half-Iranian singer who used to be in avant-jazz and rock bands. her vocals are a little rougher than the others
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:07 (seven years ago) link
You've gott an extra t in her name, but this is okay (sorry, not very weighty in my weighing in):
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 15:55 (seven years ago) link
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:29 (seven years ago) link
Iranian singer Mahsa Vahdat was great last night on the Washington DC leg of her 4 city US tour with soul singer Mighty Sam McClain. She still lives in Tehran although she is barred from singing in public there. She teaches and does private shows. She's got a powerful voice and can sing classical Persian music with emphasis, hit high notes, and also softly sing Persian folk music. She plays several instruments but only sang last night. She has also sung with her sister. Various youtubes are available as well as some stuff on spotify.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:03 (seven years ago) link
Iranian-born singer Rita who moved to Israel at age 8 is getting lots of NPR coverage both online and on the radio for her current all Persian project. She's in Maryland near DC tonight.
I kinda like her current release although she's a bit too overdramatic at times and a bit too slick; but much of it sounds good.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 15:06 (seven years ago) link
Longtime Afghan singer Ustad Farida Mahwash, the first female singer there to get the title "Ustad", has been living in California since the 90s after getting asylum after she was threatened with assassination. She is going to be in DC Friday through Sunday doing a bunch of free duet gigs with Khalil Ragheb on vocals and harmonium.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 January 2017 16:15 (three years ago) link
Fairouz In The Booth
― sbahnhof, Monday, 17 July 2017 06:55 (two years ago) link
Dropping this here partly so the link is saved. It's really wonderful. I first came across a version of the main song 'Dam Ishq Fareedi Bharia' on a Badar Miandad CD and then found this on YouTube.
What can you tell me about the scene? It's cool to watch, really goes off by the end (and the final melody kind of reminds me of 'On A Ragga Tip').
― Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 10:37 (seven months ago) link
thanks for sharing...that was great. what exactly is doing on with those dudes making it rain on the band though?
I have no clue about this scene but there are some real fun videos on YouTube if you poke around. I've probably watched this a dozen times
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 11:49 (seven months ago) link
I think they are throwing 'money' to show appreciation for the band being on point. In a probably heinous act of cultural appropriation I have GIFd a bit of that for future application.
― Thank You (Fattekin Mice Elf Control Again) (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 12:33 (seven months ago) link
that Nazir Ijaz clip is great. going to disappear into a Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan hole for a few days.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:45 (seven months ago) link
I have seen Nigerians shower King Sunny Ade with money that way too
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 October 2019 03:50 (seven months ago) link