― David-Graham Steans, Monday, 1 December 2003 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott m (mcd), Monday, 1 December 2003 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link
"Where to start" is a bastard of a question considering he's got a hand in at least four albums this year (if you count the leaked Madvillainy). I made a comp recently of his best stuff (both producing and MCing from 1999-mid '03; not including Madvillainy or Viktor Vaughn Vaudeville Villain), and it goes like this:
king geedorah - fazersmonsta island czars - m.i.n.y.a.mf doom - who you think i am ft. m.i.c.king geedorah - fastlane ft. biolantemf doom - go with the flowm.i.c. - mic lineking geedorah - anti-matter ft. mf doom and mr. fantastikmf doom - operation greenbacksking geedorah - lockjaw ft. trunksmf doom - i hear voices (part once)king geedorah - next levels ft. lil' sci, id 4 winds & stahhrmf doom - doomsdayking geedorah - the final hour ft. mf doomm.i.c. - 1,2... 1,2mf doom - gas drawlsm.i.c. - take controlmf doom - ? ft. kuriousm.i.c. - make it squashking geedorah - krazy world ft. giganmf doom - tick, tick ft. mf grimmm.i.c. - under pressuremf doom - dead bentking geedorah - the fine print
*Geedorah is an MF Doom alias, is why I'm all "huh?" when he has a King Geedorah track "ft. MF Doom".
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 1 December 2003 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― dyson (dyson), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link
its hilarious in reviews when they write that he only raps on two tracks. ALIASES YOU DUMBSHITS! he's on nearly every track. and two of the few he isn't on are my favorites "Krazy World" and "I Wonder"
the madvillian album is also superb.
and viktor vaughn.
can't wait for MM FOOD!!!!!!!
― joshd, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:33 (seventeen years ago) link
To use pitchfork as an example (sorry)-
...The King Geedorah project, unlike Doom's recent outing as Viktor Vaughn, finds MF almost exclusively behind the boards, comfortable with rocking the SP1200 and letting others turn out the mic. Only two tracks feature Doom rhyming, but at least one of them is an album highlight...
Now yeah i know PITCHFORK BLAH BLAH CLOWNS BLAH BLAH, but the kid loves the record, makes reference to past doom projects, and yet still he doesn't recognize MF DOOM'S GODDAMN VOICE.
― joshd, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:58 (seventeen years ago) link
there's a significant difference between saying an album has 2 songs with mf doom verses when its closer to 6 or 7.
its just shoddy writing, because his verses on "no snakes alive" and "the fine print" are fab!
― joshd, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 02:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Wouldn't you recognize, say, Willie Nelson singing if he went by the name Harvis Finkelwert?
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Not to mention the fact that it's plausible that someone might use or collaborate with rappers/singers/etc. who sound rather a lot like they do. Why wouldn't you assume that Harvis Finkelwert isn't just a big Willie Nelson fan who sounds quite a lot like Willie?!?
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 04:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 05:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 05:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Hey josh, I thought you were talking about me and I was all ready to be like "YOU BITCH, I have Operation Doomsday on vinyl and a homemade shirt that says 'I'm at where your sister went'!". And then I realized that I reviewed Viktor Vaughn and not King Geedorah. To be technical, MF Doom raps on, what, five songs on KG? Fazers and The Fine Print are far and away the standouts and Dumile's verse on 'Anti-Matter' is the toughest thing to come out this year, I think. "Doom with the hog's leg, straight up, New Yorkin'"
― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 07:45 (seventeen years ago) link
1) MF Doom "Operation: Greenbacks"2) MF Doom "Dead Bent" (12" version)3) Viktor Vaughn "Saliva"4) MF Doom "Red And Gold"5) MF Doom "Doomsday"6) Viktor Vaughn "Lickupon"7) King Geedorah "The Fine Print"8) MF Doom ft. Kurious "?"9) MF Doom "Hey!"10) King Geedorah "Fazers"
― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 07:49 (seventeen years ago) link
But the new "Vaudeville Villain" album is his best overall. It has one of the best great:crap lyric ratios in recent memory. Tons of quotables. Best hip-hop album of 2003.
― Adam Harrison-Friday, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fratz, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link
what's this about?
the Madvillian comes out today. i'll be at rasputins for lunch
― JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link
"Smoke Ernie El's, drink Gin, last name, Baylor"
― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link
― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link
there's a new track making the rounds. i like it!
― fwiw (rockapads), Saturday, 17 January 2009 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
quasimotos 2nd album might appeal if you like doom. maybe edans primitive plus, too.
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 17 January 2009 09:16 (twelve years ago) link
new album is looking good from what ive heard so far... i hope hes producing the bulk of it.
― p-noid (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 2 February 2009 11:47 (eleven years ago) link
is there enough interest for an ANTICIPATING BORN LIKE THIS thread?
that's that is killing me. kinda like lynguistics by cunninlynguistics. the bass and guitar playing on it's so nuanced and sweet, almost african kinda.
― deveraux billings (schlump), Monday, 9 March 2009 04:51 (eleven years ago) link
I'm playing the shit out of the Born Like This sampler. This is easily my most anticipated release for the near future
― BusDriverStu (Bus Driver Stu), Monday, 9 March 2009 11:15 (eleven years ago) link
i love the new album so far. sounds a bit diff to how he used to, not quite as playful, but still dope.
― Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 9 March 2009 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's that is great. I like the lack of autotune in the terrible singing bit at the end too
― wilter, Monday, 9 March 2009 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
i ADORE this album. it should be on everyones best of 2009 list.
― Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
when does this come out??
― straight up, you're payin' jacks just to hear me phase (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
RADIATED HUMANS EATING THE FLESH OF RADIATED HUMANS
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
that singing bit's like my favourite. not terrible at all.
is ghost only on one track on the lp? something i read a while ago made it sound like he'd thrown in some of the sessions they did, kinda abandoning the plans for a full record
― deveraux billings (schlump), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
DOPE
― carne asada, Tuesday, 10 March 2009 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
how are you guys hearing this?
― The Lost Boys Buff Guy Playing Sax (rockapads), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
nm
― The Lost Boys Buff Guy Playing Sax (rockapads), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
has he used the 'rectal hysterectomy' line before?
― The Lost Boys Buff Guy Playing Sax (rockapads), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
ya I mean his singing voice is terrible but it fits nicely with the vibe of the whole thing.
― wilter, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
heh took a while to click that they're Doom samples in That's That.
― wilter, Friday, 13 March 2009 07:50 (eleven years ago) link
the thom yorke remix sounds better on paper.
― Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 13 March 2009 10:43 (eleven years ago) link
it sounds like a thom yorke remix. the four tet mixes put the vocals on a different bed of sounds but it still sounded good, this sounds a little jarring
― deveraux billings (schlump), Friday, 13 March 2009 12:36 (eleven years ago) link
it needs to be more minimal i think.
― Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 13 March 2009 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
lool @ "Batty Boyz"
― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 08:56 (eleven years ago) link
yeh wtf!??!??
― zappi, Monday, 16 March 2009 09:04 (eleven years ago) link
the raekwon joint is mad srs
― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 09:20 (eleven years ago) link
Also I just realized, like, yesterday that "Doom" was probably a shortened version of "Dumile"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:18 (three weeks ago) link
I keep hoping that like the other Doom he allowed one of his robot doubles to die in his place.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:33 (three weeks ago) link
xp ha i had the same experience re-reading the ta-nahesi coates profile over the weekend, which i think says "dumile (pronounced DOOM-ile)" and i smacked my forehead
im sure this has been discussed already, its just so odd in 2020 to not find out about the death of a person in the entertainment world the moment it happens
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:34 (three weeks ago) link
i think it's kind of cool / admirable that it was not known for so long tbh
― ffolkes (map), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:35 (three weeks ago) link
Also, I would 100% percent be on board with DOOM having faked his own death because A) It means DOOM is alive and B) It would piss everyone off, ergo being an all-time great supervillain move
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:40 (three weeks ago) link
Id like it if he killed doom, and even d.dumile, but only so he could become a new character. Here's hoping
― candyman, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:05 (three weeks ago) link
oh my god lads, a MF DOOM tribute on a belgian train pic.twitter.com/ppXf42XjUD— lauren quigley (@laurenlquigley) January 5, 2021
― candyman, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 08:05 (three weeks ago) link
Long Live MF DOOM. 🔥 pic.twitter.com/nZwDQ1OO6B— Hiphop In Je Sm⭕el (@HIJS) January 3, 2021
― candyman, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 08:06 (three weeks ago) link
https://waxpoetics.com/articles/mfdoom-behind-the-mask/
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 19:13 (three weeks ago) link
great articlelast question about his vaults is intriguing, hope more stuff comes out
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 19:24 (three weeks ago) link
I had not seen this until now - he was only 19!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF8DyxqXYfo
― city worker, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 20:05 (three weeks ago) link
that footage is crazy
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 22:13 (three weeks ago) link
I don't think im an expert enough to run it but if it hasn't been said already, DOOM deserves his own breakout tracks/albums/career poll
― gman59, Friday, 8 January 2021 18:34 (two weeks ago) link
Cool footage. Love that type of NYC accent.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 8 January 2021 18:49 (two weeks ago) link
yeah they are so sute
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 January 2021 18:54 (two weeks ago) link
cute*
― gman59, Friday, 8 January 2021 18:34 (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Before the pandemic really threw my whole job in to a mess, I was trying to get a big rap poll on the go and had to renege it. I would love to help anyone who wanted to run a DOOM/KMD poll though
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 8 January 2021 19:41 (two weeks ago) link
i thought someone volunteered to do it on the "there should be an ILM poll" thread?
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 January 2021 20:46 (two weeks ago) link
I suggested it there but was more intending to throw it out there, I’m not able to run it.
― Chris L, Saturday, 9 January 2021 04:12 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000r3zg
― candyman, Saturday, 9 January 2021 09:56 (two weeks ago) link
i could do it. Not gonna let it not happen like. But let's give it a month or two. In the meantime I'll try and sort out what should be eligible as i think this would be thornier than most of these polls (eg, Pitchfork's list of 10 tracks includes a bootleg remix off of "Sadevillain" that features a verse better/clearer than its official release). Is that kind of thing the poll volunteer's call? I've followed a few of these things but only taken part once.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 9 January 2021 18:56 (two weeks ago) link
Stretch, Bobbito, and KMD's A&R guy are on the new NY Times Popcast, in separate interviews.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:01 (two weeks ago) link
dante ross?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:46 (two weeks ago) link
the genie? granting us three wishes?
― shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:47 (two weeks ago) link
3 gods of New York 90s rap in one podcast.
― candyman, Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:05 (two weeks ago) link
I used to have the doom x nas’s worst album on vinyl and loved it, but yeah, mash ups and stuff shouldn’t make the list
― a hoy hoy, Saturday, 9 January 2021 22:26 (two weeks ago) link
yeah you're right. I'll take this on sometime after the 2020 poll if a more qualified pollsperson doesn't. Might need help getting all of the features listed.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:48 (two weeks ago) link
I have that doomstradamus somewhere too. Not sure if it was even legit though... wished I had kept my madvillainy lp now, seeing as it appears to be worth half a grand now
― candyman, Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:49 (two weeks ago) link
nah it's a bootleg. And although it turns out Doom was sorta bootlegging himself with those "Missing Notebook" tracks that made it out, I would want to include those.
Heard a nice recent bootleg with Nujabes beats.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:58 (two weeks ago) link
That nyt podcast wasnt bad. Dante Ross was the best. Bobbito talked too much about fondle em. Caramanica kept talking about dooms textures, which is right, but it's also about the weird rhythms, the off, rza ish sense of timing. Like a much looser prince Paul.
― candyman, Sunday, 10 January 2021 14:00 (two weeks ago) link
I was forgetting the poll scheduling thread when I was here setting my own rough timeline lol. I'll go post there that I could do it.
a hoy hoy: how were you interested in/able to help?
I can't be bothered with Popcast much but it was pretty informative. Keeping the subscription can come in handy.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 10 January 2021 16:04 (two weeks ago) link
idk. maybe i could make graphics or something?
― a hoy hoy, Sunday, 10 January 2021 16:15 (two weeks ago) link
That'd be great. I'm rusty with Photoshop but would be no problem sharing the load on rollout images if you did up the template.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 10 January 2021 16:18 (two weeks ago) link
the start of this thread is hilarious
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 10 January 2021 16:32 (two weeks ago) link
listening to special herbs and spices, i forgot how good him and mf grimm were together. dooms beats during this period were absolutely fire. people focus on the more whimsical, quirky stuff, but he also had some absolutely volcanic bangers.
― candyman, Sunday, 10 January 2021 18:48 (two weeks ago) link
i never liked the vv albums cos the beats were boring/too standard underground rap. madvillainy worked cos madlibs beats are kinda undernourished/crumbling too though doom just has an altogether more dilapidated approach to beats which is why his own self produced material works best.
― Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:15 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
been talking w other folks online abt this recently but the beats on viktor vaughn 1 are super dope
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 10 January 2021 20:33 (two weeks ago) link
otm. listened to vaudevillain the other day, holds up
― flopson, Sunday, 10 January 2021 20:36 (two weeks ago) link
production on vaudeville is incredible
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 January 2021 20:45 (two weeks ago) link
More incredible than the geedorah album? That album has such a fantastic set of beats .
― candyman, Sunday, 10 January 2021 21:30 (two weeks ago) link
The thing about Grimm is that Grimm also sounded kind of depressed as well as sinister which fit those beats so well
― candyman, Sunday, 10 January 2021 21:35 (two weeks ago) link
apples & oranges
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 10 January 2021 21:46 (two weeks ago) link
Scars and memories, Memories and scars, I look up in the sky and I wonder where you are
― candyman, Sunday, 10 January 2021 21:51 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.theringer.com/2021/1/4/22212562/mf-doom-daniel-dumile-madvillain-syllabus-kmd-dunks
― candyman, Sunday, 10 January 2021 21:58 (two weeks ago) link
https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.59992/title.mf-doom-madlibs-madvillainy-sequel-was-85-percent-done-stones-throw-has-permission-to-release-material
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 00:27 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.passionweiss.com/2021/01/11/hero-vs-villain-what-a-niggy-know-remix/
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 01:26 (two weeks ago) link
whiney doomscrollinghttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/arts/music/mf-doom-influences.html
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 18:11 (two weeks ago) link
I haven't tried to sell any music at these crazy prices going around... Got an offer on Discogs for $100 for the Vaudeville Villain CD. Just from having it in my collection. Shit's crazy.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 18:18 (two weeks ago) link
Sold my vv literally weeks before he died for £95. Shame I didnt wait longer!
― candyman, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 22:04 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/arts/music/mf-doom-influences.html
― candyman, Friday, 15 January 2021 08:08 (one week ago) link
oops, just saw that was already posted.