So, what do you all think? Is "The Choke" an unrecognized masterpiece of Canadian culture or what?
― Dan Perry, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― James Annett, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― alex in nyc, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bnw, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ethan, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― matthew m., Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Kodanshi, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I may be in the minority among Puppy fans, but I really think that _Bites_ is their best album. I mean, you've got "Assimilate", "The Choke", "Basement", "Love", "Church", "Social Deception", "Film", and "Icebreaker" all on the same album. How can that NOT be classic? Also, _Rabies_ is severely underrated, at least as far as its singles are concerned. "Tin Omen" is one of the best songs they ever recorded.
― Dan Perry, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bnw, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― matthew m., Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― DavidM, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ethan, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bnw, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Kim, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ethan, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
With 'Cleanse, Fold, and Manipulate', the clumsy skeletal rhythms, and screaching vocals had begun to grate. And by 'VIVIsectVI' I'd lost interests. Worth a listen if Front 242, Cabaret Voltaire, Throbbing Gristle are your scene though.
― stevo, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― matthew m., Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Anyone want to stand up for those albums, or did they really lose their way for a good chunk of the 80s? And why am I JONESING to hear "Tormentor"?
― Dan Perry, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
There's a live version of "Harsh Stone White" that I think blows the studio cut into the next room...
It is FRIGHTENING how great a song "Warlock" is. I must listen to it NOW.
― Kris Day, Sunday, 9 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
For those who had trouble with a particular cd, clear your mind of any false expectations, go back to it and take another serious listen. Usually by 11th listen: you will find in what was once considered "unlistenable", a certain gratification (unlike any) that will hit you unexpectedly and bring with it unbelievable staying power.
Here, was truly an addictive brand of sonic seduction (in my book)... one that ferments quite nicely!
― Sarah P., Monday, 30 September 2002 15:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 30 September 2002 15:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sarah p, Monday, 30 September 2002 18:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Monday, 30 September 2002 20:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 30 September 2002 21:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.armchair.mb.ca/~oneiros/pix/iiv-1.jpghttp://www.armchair.mb.ca/~oneiros/pix/iiv-2.jpg
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 30 September 2002 22:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Steph (Steph), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 00:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
By the way, VI VI sect VI had the BEST LONGBOX EVAH.
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 00:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 00:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 02:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sarah p, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 18:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah P, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― moogy, Thursday, 23 January 2003 23:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 23 January 2003 23:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
A year later he was drunk and diving in a river in Virginia and he died cracking his head on the river bottom - he was by himself, so when he hit the bottom, he was knocked out and he drowned.
So now when I hear Skinny Puppy it's nothing but bad associations. Kinda neat audio-collage technique they developed tho, I guess.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 24 January 2003 00:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
...and don't forget "deadlines" (that torrid guitar)!
― sarah, Tuesday, 4 February 2003 00:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 15:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― fletrejet, Tuesday, 4 February 2003 16:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sarah p, Tuesday, 4 February 2003 23:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 23:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 00:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
Although, I too thought Last Rights was unlistenable for a year after I bought it until I final saw the light (and it was dark).
― fletrejet, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 01:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 01:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm long overdue for a re-listen to the entire discography. when I first got into hard industrial, Too Dark Park was my entry point.
"Tormentor" is still my fav Skuppy track.
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link
Also my first SP album. Had no frame of reference for it and it kinda blew my mind. Spasmolytic is pure, driving evil and has always been my go-to on that one.
― circa1916, Sunday, 15 December 2019 23:23 (four years ago) link
I jumped off the SP wagon in 1990 so know and love everything up until Too Dark Park. What is essential that i have missed?
― stirmonster, Monday, 16 December 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link
aside from Last Rights, not a lot tbh.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 16 December 2019 00:14 (four years ago) link
Too Dark Park and Last Rights probably them at the top of their game, so yeah, those two. Can ignore the rest.
― circa1916, Monday, 16 December 2019 01:17 (four years ago) link
The album that "Pro-Test" is on is pretty good
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 16 December 2019 01:53 (four years ago) link
damn after bites these guys get ugly as hell don't they
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link
i'm at vivisectvi which is a great record but my favorite part is the second half where they remember they're in the club ("who's laughing now?" -> "testure")
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link
my favorite so far is mind: the perpetual intercourse which was unexpected because that album freaked me out so bad in college that i threatened to never get into skinny puppy
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link
Last rights is incredible. Check the track “scrapyard”
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
i can't wait to get it! all i want to do is listen to skinny puppy
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link
M:TPI is great
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
Last Rights is the only Skinny Puppy I actually own on CD, yet is probably my least favourite of the run from 84-92 (although I haven't actually heard Too Dark Park or Cleanse Fold and Manipulate tbf). I still like it. but Remission is amazing. Bites/Mind/Vivisectvi/Rabies are all great
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
Too Dark Park > Last Rights
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
cleanse fold and manipulate blows me away bc it has stuff as accessible and funky as "addiction" and "tear or beat" and "deep down trauma hounds" sitting near "draining faces," which is maybe the song i'd use to introduce someone to the concept of "industrial," it embodies so many aspects of the genre while going at least as hard as throbbing gristle, and "the mourn," which just sounds straight up satanic to me. different rooms in a club in hell: the album
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link
i love the ... playfulness (?) of the sampling in "anger"
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link
Cleanse Fold and Manipulate was my SP entry point; american bradass nails all that is great about that album.
It is one of thee masterclasses in how to use a sampler creatively.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:53 (four years ago) link
is there a particular reason that, after three albums in hell, rabies feels like the long-awaited sequel to bites
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
i guess the presence of al jourgensen kind of explains it but mostly explains why "fascist jockitch" exists
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link
I only like two songs on Rabies but those two songs ("Worlock", "Tin Omen") are career highlights
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link
Listened to their singles compilation this morning while walking to the laundromat and doing laundry. Their music is excellent for being outside in 20-degree (Fahrenheit) weather.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link
only have 2 of their late era albums in the archive, 'Mythmaker', and 'Handover', which are pretty good, especially 'Mythmaker'.unfortunately their classic stuff rarely turns up on cds over this side of the water.used to have CF&M on tape when it was released and recall it being a pretty scary listen.going to have to track it down again now though ..
― mark e, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
i can tell you that this is already one of my favorite skinny puppy songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH5lSONTo5o
it's so... catchy
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link
"worlock" is also undeniable
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
the "helter skelter" samples are hilarious
and while i really like psalm 69, "tin omen" is my preferred idea of thrash metal industrial
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
what a headtrip
My issue with "Hexonxonx" is my problem with every song on Rabies that wasn't a single; after about 90 seconds, I start going "okay yes, I get the point; now do something else"
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
but it has that vortex of samples toward the end
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
though i think i might be a weirdo who loves rabies
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link
Yeah but before it gets to that point I've skipped ahead to "Worlock"
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link
I love Rabies
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link
I’ve really enjoyed this revive and few things are more gratifying than watching someone with good taste experience something you love. Which is why I’ve watched way too many of those Lost in Vegas Youtube videos I guess.My entry point was TDP and it will always be my favorite, but also rate Bites/Remission (yeah, I had the double CD so I’ll always mentally combine them), VIVIsect, and Last Rights, as my favorites. I also used to watch the Ain’t It Dead Yet? VHS probably more than was healthy. I never got to see them live. M:TPI and CF&M great, too. Also loved Back & Forth Vol. 2, the Spasmolytic EP, and I think the Inquisition single which had an amazing instrumental version of Mirror Saw that is one of my favorite standalone SP tracks.
― beard papa, Friday, 20 December 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link
too dark park is the gnarliest and coolest album ever made
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 27 December 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
last rights is even gnarlier and weirdly kind of loses me at that absolute terminus of gnarly. gonna keep trying though
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 27 December 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link
but like rash reflection -> nature’s revenge -> shore lined poison is the greatest shit i’ve ever heard
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 27 December 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ldM6DQ24bA
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link
Good taste!Ooh, he got good taste!
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link
.@cEvinKey of @skinnypuppy_ changed his album title from "Xwayxway" to "Resonance."The album is inspired by an Indigenous village located in Vancouver but some objected to Xwayxway as a title. Out of respect for them, he changed the title.That's how you be an ally. pic.twitter.com/KZKmUxZl6r— Brian O'Neill (@NYC__Native) January 19, 2021
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link
Getting into Vivisectvi. Is this band getting more credit now with the trend of cyberpunk music and aesthetics? Feel like there's an opputunity for lots of new fans at this moment
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
I’ve maintained that classic SP’s evaluation outside of old goth heads has been due for a long time. It’s time for the kids to make it happen already.
― circa1916, Saturday, 15 October 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
They’re pretty deep down in that industrial niche. Once the hip kids make their way through Psychic TV, Einstürzende Neubauten, and EDM, then they’ll be ready.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link
Fuck fuck fuck abort. You know what I meant.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Sunday, 16 October 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link
Skinny Puppy were upper echelon of the niche, hardly buried.EB and Psychic TV have had cool cred forever and occupy an adjacent, but different sphere.
― circa1916, Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:26 (one year ago) link
Similarly messing up acronyms over here haha.
― circa1916, Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:29 (one year ago) link
Vivisectvi is really good but I don't think the bonus tracks/EP at the end of CD copies was a good idea, the tracks are fine and there's some albums I love having the bonus tracks (lots of 4AD EPs at the end of albums) but it didn't work for me this time. Clips from films seem to bother me when I know what the film is, I find it a little distracting at times.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 27 February 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link
i had never heard Funguss before (the other 2 bonus tracks are 12" b-sides). i dig it.
i've been listening to The Centre Bullet again lots recently and it seems amazing to me it was only ever a CD bonus track, although of course it has a second life as a Tear Garden song too.
― stirmonster, Monday, 27 February 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRdbFMZghH8
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 8 April 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link
They're done, having just completed a four-night stand in L.A. Interesting separate interviews with Ogre and Key.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 8 December 2023 05:38 (four months ago) link
Full respect, wish I had made the journey to see the tour. They stand near Bauhaus for me in the echoing influence of oppressive darkness always taken one step further. I think Too Dark Park was the peak. Am also a HUGE stan for the Hilt side project. I have more minutes listening to Hilt than SP I think...
― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Friday, 8 December 2023 07:17 (four months ago) link