Jeff Chang takes on Nik Cohn, old white guys, and da capo

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Take this piece by Nik Cohn in the 2002 edition.

Nik Cohn is best known as the guy who fabricated the story about the Italian disco
stallion in Brooklyn and saw it turned into Saturday Night Fever, for which he
earned a nice payday. Proving that if you are a white male journalist and you
make up a story, you may be more likely to end up in Hollywood (see also Steve
Glass) than back at ya mama's crib (see Jayson Blair).

And that if you keep at it long enough you even get celebrated as a Respected
Music Journalist. Proving that music journalism is an oxymoron by itself. It's
never about facts, it's about myths.

But back to the story--which is advertised on the back cover blurb in these words:
"Nik Cohn infiltrates the New Orleans rap scene"...not you kid I, as Yoda would
say. Let's leave aside for a moment the discussion of "infiltration" and age and race
and rap and audience, shall we? That could take a while. And get to the story.

Nik Cohn is prone to writing lines like, "Soljas lived and died by the G-Code", and
sections like, "They seemed like nice girls, well behaved. They talked about their
nails, and boys, and Destiny's Child, and boys. Then Choppa came on the stage,
and the girls flew into the gym. 'If you like your pussy ate, say Aaaahh,' Choppa
said. And all the nice girls went, 'Aaaahh.'"

This from a guy whose bio reads, "Nik Cohn was born in London in 1946..."

Nik Cohn also writes sentences like this: "Calliope niggas made the St. Thomas
look like church."

Now stylistically, the lack of attribution and all that can be seen as artful. You
know, the omniscient narrator blah blah blah. In this case, omniscient narration can
also be seen as total bullshit.

This is not a debate about whether or not Nik Cohn has the right to write what he
wants. The question is about his authority and the use of the voice. Nik Cohn
substituting his own voice for the voice of his interview subject--if his subject did
indeed say that and Nik Cohn did not invent his subject--is the perfect way of
describing what's wrong with the white man's burden approach to these
anthologies.

I mean, "Calliope niggas", please. Tell me Nik Cohn is omnisciently walking
around the Calliope projects with that sentence dropping out of his month, let alone
the St. Thomas projects. This is a guy whose bio ends, "He now lives in Shelter
Island, New York."

Who is he writing for? The Granta audience. And now you, too, consumer of
"the year's best writing on rock, pop, jazz, country & more". (You didn't miss it,
hip-hop is in the "& more" section.)

As badly and as often as I bemoan the state of hip-hop journalism, it's nice to get a
slap upside the head like this once in a while.

Hip-hop journalism is nowhere near as bad as the state of music journalism, which
apparently is still stuck in the same old racist, rockist canon-making. Geezus, it
feels like the late 80s and we're fighting to have women and people of color
included in the curriculum all over again.

Ignorant and sub-trifian at best, I say. I mean does the dude even know who Nik Cohn really IS? Does he know how Cohn ALWAYS writes? Does he understand WHY Nik Cohn is vital and WHAT Cohn invented?

And for fucks sake I've as many gripes with Da Capo as the next guy but this is just painful. There's a sort of crazy notion at work that the only way to hear music is the way Chang WANTS you to hear music, that its betraying some cause to be old and british and write about hip-hop and even y'know, like it.

On the other hand, his call later to expand the set of voices isn't bad -- it's just that about half the voices he lists could learn a LOT from Nik Cohn, and some of the others probably already have (or from people who learned from people who learned from etc.)

Respect your elders and all.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 22 November 2003 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

oh yeah and he doesn't mention that that vol. had excellent pieces by eshun and sanneh.

maybe not enuf hip-hop for his tastes, but...?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 22 November 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

Cohn's honestly one of those guys who I only know for that one piece, and even then I know it by reputation rather than direct reading of same. What's yer take on his importance in specific?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 November 2003 03:11 (twenty years ago) link

One of the first rockwriters, one of the best, *totally* anti-rockist to almost kneejerk proportions (and before "rockism" was even coined as a word!) and a really powerful journalist.

a wop bop a loo bop a lop bam boom is like a canon high-point for me in rockwrite.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 22 November 2003 03:17 (twenty years ago) link

Ah right, now that you mention the title I recall him being the author of that. Hm. I will file away and make mental note to investigate more thoroughly.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 November 2003 03:20 (twenty years ago) link

i love cohn for that one book (and his phil spector essay, in my not-so-humble opinion the single greatest piece ever written about rock) but oddly enough i've never read his saturday night fever story - is it collected anywhere?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 22 November 2003 07:55 (twenty years ago) link

He also wrote a really engaging book on modern England -- Yes We Have No -- a kind of celebration of eccentricity, a loose stitching together of some (real or imagined?) maverick tribe at odds with the blanding of Blair (remember "Cool Britannia"?), which had some great moments.

David A. (Davant), Saturday, 22 November 2003 08:05 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno, I kind of agree with a lot of what that blogger wrote!! In fact, I totally thought Sterling was joking in his commentary. And I thought it was kind of funny commentary! (when I was under the illusion that he in fact agreed with the blogger's gripes, until I read his response to Ned)

Now I don't know what to think. I'm not British; I've never read Cohn. I'd like to, but I haven't. There was a time about 5 years ago when I really fervently checked every used book store I came in contact with for his stuff!! I gather some stuff had been reprinted by American presses in the last couple years? Oh well, you lazy piece of shit presses missed your moment with me. I'm sure I'll read him one day, though.

Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 22 November 2003 10:02 (twenty years ago) link

ROCK DREAMS!!!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Saturday, 22 November 2003 11:00 (twenty years ago) link

i've never read any of cohn's music writing,but i quite liked that yes we have no book
i bought his book "the heart of the world" recently,and i can't wait to read it,since it is based on what is in my opinion the ultimate concept-man walks around new york talking about it...

robin (robin), Saturday, 22 November 2003 17:14 (twenty years ago) link

Cohn's 'I Am Still The Greatest Says Johnny Angelo' is easily the best rock nov ever writ, tho' admittedly the competition ain't that hot.

A few years back, Picador in the UK published a Cohn anthology called 'Ball To The Wall', which includes the Sat Night Fever piece.


Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 22 November 2003 19:57 (twenty years ago) link

cohn is great. choppa is fucking great. what more do people want?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 22 November 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

"his call later to expand the set of voices isn't bad -- it's just that about half the voices he lists could learn a LOT from Nik Cohn, and some of the others probably already have (or from people who learned from people who learned from etc.)"

Sterling's OTM here. For all the lip service given to "diversity" and multiculturalism" sometimes it doesn't seem like too much has changed. But I think Chang should be giving Cohn more crdit than he does for writing about New Orlean rap. Cohn could have been just writing about Radiohead. Yawn.

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Saturday, 22 November 2003 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

Chang says to the Da Capo editors: "Read about broken beat, dub, reggae, mbalax, salsa, Tejano, Latin rock, afrobeat, kiho'alu, qawwali. Your readers do. Your heroes do. Hell, you're behind the curve."

There's not much writing about "salsa, latin rock, or Tejano" in the mainstream English language press by writers of any ethnic background. Jon Pareles actually does a bit of it in the NY Times but there's not much in Rolling Stone or most American weeklies for that matter.

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Saturday, 22 November 2003 22:33 (twenty years ago) link

don't know Cohn too well, can't get into those specifics, but Chang is totally right in his gripes about the series generally.

M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 23 November 2003 02:07 (twenty years ago) link

Matos,

You're an editor in Seattle, right? Do you try to actively seek out writing on diverse music genres, or to seek out writers from varying backgrounds, or are you too busy trying to meet deadlines each week to take that extra effort? I'm just asking for curiosity sake, I don't read your weekly's site online enough to know.

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Sunday, 23 November 2003 15:03 (twenty years ago) link

Matos, I know some folks think that music coverage that relates to music sales or to demographics is ok, while others try to cover new releases that they believe are important no matter the genre or the following, so how do you approach it? Yea, there seems to be more writers covering indie-rock than other genres in weeklies, and this may be the readership's main interest as well, but do you like to throw curveballs and cover unexpected subjects if you get good enough copy? As opposed to the folks editing the Da Capo volumes who seem rather predictable.

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Sunday, 23 November 2003 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

I think Chang's other gripe is that he just doesn't like choppa or hell luda or ja rule or actually most chartwise hip-hop as much as the "conscious" stuff so there's a complaint about not finding the "soul" of hip-hop which as as much to do with his own v. distinct understanding of "hip-hop" as anything else here?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 23 November 2003 23:10 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think that's really true.

Check out this piece he wrote for the Nation, which argues that conscious rap is a liberal invention and the political consciousness of chart rep is underestimated.

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030113&s=chang&c=1

bugged out, Sunday, 23 November 2003 23:51 (twenty years ago) link

PS What anybody is supposed to write about other than their own distinct understanding of hip-hop or anything else, I don't know.

bugged out, Sunday, 23 November 2003 23:54 (twenty years ago) link

"Check out this piece he wrote for the Nation, which argues that conscious rap is a liberal invention and the political consciousness of chart rep is underestimated."

that doesn't seem to be what he is saying at all
the article paints talib kweli as the only hope for the future!

robin (robin), Monday, 24 November 2003 02:27 (twenty years ago) link

that article calls mr. lif "danceable"!!!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 24 November 2003 02:52 (twenty years ago) link

jeff chang isn't wrong i've decided -- he just has alien biology.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 24 November 2003 02:53 (twenty years ago) link

Steve, I approach it pretty much exactly the way you might expect me to from reading my posts here.

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 November 2003 02:55 (twenty years ago) link

"Return of the B. Boy Part 2", sucka

nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 24 November 2003 02:58 (twenty years ago) link

(well actually I'm not sure if the EP is as danceable,but still)

nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 24 November 2003 03:03 (twenty years ago) link

Did Chang write for Ego Trip?

Does anybody know how Da Capo picks the editor each year?

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Monday, 24 November 2003 05:40 (twenty years ago) link

Ouija board.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 24 November 2003 05:42 (twenty years ago) link

And the kooky thing is, they throw darts at it

nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 24 November 2003 06:34 (twenty years ago) link

Ah blogs. You never think anyone is actually reading them except for your 2-5 friends whom you didn't already email blast at an hour after midnight. You never remember what you wrote til you have to answer for it.

So...the timing of the rant. I have been doing a grad-seminar style reading binge to prep for a class I'm teaching on music journalism, which got me to remembering how angry I was about Da Capo and the--thank you Sterling--making of the *rockist* canon.

So, yeah, I could be wrong about Nik Cohn. I'm willing to be convinced about Nik Cohn. I cited Nik Cohn because that sentence about Calliope was what set me off, pushed all my buttons about generation and race and other shit. Don't want to go back there now.

Re: one of Sterling's points, I never meant to argue that my point of view ought to be privileged over Nik Cohn's--in that old 80s, "only *I* can speak about my people (and for my people)" kind of way. I used to be religious about that line when I was younger and less sweet a guy, but I realized about 14 years ago that that would mean I could only write about Hawaiian or Chinese American music or culture (which I still do). I gave that line up and have been happier and more enlightened ever since.

So Nik Cohn was a soft pink target for the main points, which was that I'm mad at the process of canonization of music writing and that it's *done been* time to make room for other voices.

FYI the process for Da Capo, as I understand it, is that Da Capo hires an outside editor--in that case, Paul Bresnick, who is a contract editor with experience in music criticism books--and chooses a guest editor--usually a famous literary white male. Together they assemble a couple of college-age interns who send out emails to a small clique of usual suspects who recommend stories for the guest editor to read. The collect them, he reads them, he chooses. Book gets published. Jeff trips out.

I could have said this: if they wanted to get hot literary guest editors they could have called...

Zadie Smith
Colson Whitehead
Danyel Smith
Paul Beatty
Junot Diaz
...

Maybe they will in the next ten or fifteen years. And maybe some of us might make it in there if we're hot enough.

So on to the real shit...did I call Mr. Lif "danceable"? Okaaaaaay. But he is, though, in a throwback way. My 7-year old son would rather hear Luda and Lil Jon and Youngbloodz. For the record, I am not mad at that. We have had many a father-son 'bow-throwing session together, to my wife's chagrin. My 2 year old's favorite song is "Prototype", he's a lover not a fighter. I'm trying Prince on him now, and he likes "Do Me Baby" which maybe I should worry about. Before anyone calls Family Services on me, please know that both boys are also getting their daily supplement of Bob Marley, Cesaria Evoria, Willie Colon, Lyrics Born, Missy, and Outkast.

BTW I believe I did mention K. Sanneh's and Kodwo Eshun's pieces, as well as Selwyn's and Sasha's and maybe some other folks, in the blog rant (which actually is preceded by a posting of the non-canon reading list I ended up giving to my students.) Or maybe I meant to and didn't.

Anyway the rant did wonders. I haven't had a rage attack since I blogged it. I have a few new books to check out. Life is good. So peace to Sterling and all yall, and boycott Da Capo.

Just kidding on that last point.

Jeff Chang, Monday, 24 November 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

Jeff--you shouldn't worry. My favorite was "Do Me Baby" when I was a kid, too. Actually, maybe you should worry.

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 November 2003 23:38 (twenty years ago) link

Does your son gruffly bark "CHANG" when he picks up the phone?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 24 November 2003 23:53 (twenty years ago) link

Somebody has to

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 November 2003 23:57 (twenty years ago) link

That's not what scenester hanger-ons at the Stranger say, Matos.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Alex, this is really beneath you.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

(not the last post, I mean)

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

??? I was just kidding. Sorry.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 00:03 (twenty years ago) link

that doesn't seem to be what he is saying at all
the article paints talib kweli as the only hope for the future!

Well, I read the following as making the point that hip-hop wasn't inherently/originally a political music voicing the discontent of the urban oppressed (which is how your average aging liberal likes to view it when bemoaning The State of Hip-Hop Today):

"Political rap" was actually something of an invention. The Bronx community-center dances and block parties where hip-hop began in the early 1970s were not demonstrations for justice, they were celebrations of survival. Hip-hop culture simply reflected what the people wanted and needed--escape. Rappers bragged about living the brand-name high life because they didn't; they boasted about getting headlines in the New York Post because they couldn't. Then, during the burning summer of the first Reagan recession, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five released "The Message," a dirge (by the standards of the day) that seethed against the everyday violence of disinvestment. Flash was certain the record, which was actually an A&R-pushed concoction by Duke Bootee and Melle Mel, would flop; it was too slow and too depressing to rock a party. But Sugar Hill Records released the song as a single over his objections, and "The Message" struck the zeitgeist like a bull's-eye. Liberal soul and rock critics, who had been waiting for exactly this kind of statement from urban America, championed it. Millions of listeners made it the third platinum rap single.

And I read this as saying that, erm, the politics have not disappeared from popular rap:

Yet the politics have not disappeared from popular rap. Some of the most stunning hits in recent years--DMX's "Who We Be," Trick Daddy's "I'm a Thug," Scarface's "On My Block"--have found large audiences by making whole the hip-hop generation's cliché of "keeping it real," being true to one's roots of struggle. The video for Nappy Roots' brilliant "Po' Folks" depicts an expansive vision of rural Kentucky--black and white, young and old together, living like "everything's gon' be OK." Scarface's ghettocentric "On My Block" discards any pretense at apology. "We've probably done it all, fa' sheezy," he raps. "I'll never leave my block, my niggas need me." For some critics, usually older and often black, such sentiments seem dangerously close to pathological, hymns to debauchery and justifications for thuggery. But the hip-hop generation recognizes them as anthems of purpose, manifestoes that describe their time and place the same way that Public Enemy's did. Most of all, these songs and their audiences say, we are survivors and we will never forget that.

So it's also about Talib Kweli. So what. Talib Kweli is alright. Unless you're a realer-than-thou faux-populist type.

bugged out, Tuesday, 25 November 2003 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

sorry i was being a little flippant
what i meant was that the article hardly contradicted the supposition that the writer prefers "conscious" hip hop to ja rule or whatever

robin (robin), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 00:49 (twenty years ago) link

>>during the burning summer of the first Reagan recession, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five released "The Message," a dirge (by the standards of the day) that seethed against the everyday violence of disinvestment. Flash was certain the record, which was actually an A&R-pushed concoction by Duke Bootee and Melle Mel, would flop; it was too slow and too depressing to rock a party. But Sugar Hill Records released the song as a single over his objections, and "The Message" struck the zeitgeist like a bull's-eye. Liberal soul and rock critics, who had been waiting for exactly this kind of statement from urban America, championed it. Millions of listeners made it the third platinum rap single.<<

Yeah, but "The Message" wasn't actually the first (even explicitly) political rap single. Originally most of it slowed down a Melle Mel verse in Flash and the Furious Five's first "Superrappin'" 12-inch (where it had just jumped out of all the party lines and lemon to limes and whatnot, and was actually MORE effective). And "How We Gonna Make the Black Nation Rise" by Brother D with Collective Effort came before "The Message" (in 1981), as did "The Big Throwdown" by South Bronx, right? And maybe more; plenty of pre-"Message" rap singles depicted street violence, though none that I know of tried to make it into a Big Important Point. It was just THERE, along with all the happy stuff. If something already exists, you can't "invent" it.

chuck, Tuesday, 25 November 2003 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

The reason I liked the article was that, while it may indeed wind up focusing on conscious rap/neo-soul, it avoids doing so at the expense of gangsta/popular hip-hop and gives the latter its due.

PS I like Nik Cohn a lot--he has a good case for being the first rock critic and he wrote a few great articles that do deserve to be canonized. But while I haven't read the piece that's in the Da Capo collection, and you can't judge something on quotes out of context alone, it does sound like it's coming perilously close, stylistically at least, to Nik Tosches wankdom.

bugged out, Tuesday, 25 November 2003 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

And maybe more; plenty of pre-"Message" rap singles depicted street violence, though none that I know of tried to make it into a Big Important Point. It was just THERE, along with all the happy stuff. If something already exists, you can't "invent" it.

But I think this is the exact point of the bit I quoted! I don't think the piece is arguing that rock critics (or anyone else) literally invented political rap. It's arguing that political rap received a disproportionate amount of attention, such that it came to be considered what hip-hop was about, obscuring all the other things that hip-hop was also about...like the happy stuff. Which constitutes "something of an invention."

bugged out, Tuesday, 25 November 2003 01:07 (twenty years ago) link

(Actually, it constitutes the invention of Public Enemy, haha.)

bugged out, Tuesday, 25 November 2003 01:13 (twenty years ago) link

Okay, I can buy that. In fact, I've been saying that myself for years: The disco and party stuff that encompassed ALL early rap music suddenly started being branded as "not real hip-hop" once (often quite worthwhile at parties where people danced regardless) prog rappers and politics shticksters decided that "complexity" and "big statements" were more nutritious for you than parties and dancing. So nobody noticed when L'Trimm (say) made some of the most innovative and compelling hip-hop of the late '80s/early '90s. Etc. etc. etc.

chuck, Tuesday, 25 November 2003 01:15 (twenty years ago) link

Not just Public Enemy -- Also Boogie Down Productions. And Eric B and Rakim, and De La Soul, and Arrested Development, and Ice-T, and NWA, and Tribe Called Qwest, and Tupac, and the Wu Tang Clan, and so on...

chuck, Tuesday, 25 November 2003 01:17 (twenty years ago) link

(By the way, I've yet to read the Cohn piece, or the Chang response to it, for that matter. I was just reacting to that one quote.)

chuck, Tuesday, 25 November 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah... I don't think the Chang piece as a whole argues against political rap in the way that you seem to be. Argues for it, if anything. But it does so in a non-self-righteous way.

bugged out, Tuesday, 25 November 2003 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

I LIKE a lot of self-consciously "political" rap, don't get me wrong. I just don't think rap needed to say "look how political I am, aren't you impressed?"; It was political already, and it still is. Politics is just one more element in the box; ditto violence, vulnerability, weird noises, complexity, etc. I guess what I'm saying is that these aren't things that need to be ADDED. The rappers who think they're adding them are deluded. But that doesn't mean they can't be GOOD.

chuck, Tuesday, 25 November 2003 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

Man, Chuck OTFM and then some. One thing that really struck me when I heard the Sugar Hill box for the first time was just how enjoyable most of the songs on it were more than "The Message" and how the canonizing of that song as somehow marking when rap 'grew up' (and implying that most everything before it was therefore worthless) is just plain poisonous.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 02:34 (twenty years ago) link

I heard "How We Gonna Make the Black Nation Rise" for the first time last summer. What an awesome song.

Keith Harris (kharris1128), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 04:32 (twenty years ago) link

Hey Jeff thanks for stopping by! Sorry for being so brusque but I guess rant-mode rubs off on the ppl responding.

To be honest I don't know how much you'd like Nik Cohn, but I do think you should give him a try. In some ways his voice is fairly unique too and somewhat rare, so while I'm all for inclusiveness I don't want to see certain other endangered species fall off the edge. On the other hand, I *like* Tosches style wankerdom and also some other crit styles I'm fairly sure you don't. I'm all for giving the ego trip crew et cet more space though and Danyel (though not Zadie) Smith would be a dream editor for me of a Da Capo book.

I could see maybe one article on undie/conscious/whatever-the-hell-term-you-want rap in an anthology like this but is it really representative to look for *bunches* of them? Also I do think that its somewhat of a contradiction that on the whole there's more better writing about music I find more dull (the rockist canon) than about music I find more exciting (i.e. hip-hop etc). And some of the hip-hop I find *most* exciting gets some of the *least* space for expansive thoughtful coverage (i.e. just Murder Dog or something in a capsule reviw at the back and maybe a fascinating but straightforward interview)

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 05:30 (twenty years ago) link

Question unrelated to topic but sparked by Chang's post:

When the fuck is Junot Diaz gonna do something else? How long can one man coast on one collection of short stories?

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

There are at least a couple of authors out there who did that for fifty years I seem to recall.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 15:46 (twenty years ago) link

As hung-up on race as Chang seems to be, he failed to notice that 8of the 21 pieces in the current, Matt Groening-edited edition are about artists of color.

shookout, Monday, 8 December 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

Also, he disses Da Capo on the same page of his blog where he singles out 'Yes Yes Y'all' as one of the better music books, and it's published by....Da Capo! Whaddaya know!

shookout, Monday, 8 December 2003 23:24 (twenty years ago) link

cultural reporter in not embracing all or nothingism shockalocka!

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:26 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, but it bears mentioning in light of this sentence:

"You could also invest next year in Raquel Cepeda's anthology collecting some of the best hip-hop journalism of the last two or so decades called And It Don't Stop (not from your press, I note)".

So does the fact that Da Capo has more music books on its backlist about artists of color than any other press in existence.

Also, the series clearly doesn't limit itself to "music journalists," so one of the main thrusts of his nearly racist rant is a little disingenous. I don't think the series aims to capture the state of music journalism. The pieces chosen are what the Guest Editor thinks the best writings on music are, regardless of the source, whether the authors are novelists, poets, journalists, or whatever.

shookout, Monday, 8 December 2003 23:42 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think the series aims to capture the state of music journalism.

They probably shouldn't call it "Best Music Writing 200x" then.

bugged out, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

Best music WRITING, not Best Music JOURNALISM.

shookout, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

Remind me how many angels fit on the head of a pin again, will you?

bugged out, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:26 (twenty years ago) link

thanks for clarifying that most music writing ISN'T journalism. and that the editors specifically look in magazines and newspapers and online for their picks.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

And let's face it (re: last paragraph of Chang's rant): if Lester Bangs were alive today, Chang would be calling him an old white man.

And while Bangs might indeed have be "mentoring a young woman of color," it would only be after he got her drunk on cough syrup and . . . well, you can imagine the rest.

shookout, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:33 (twenty years ago) link

how much did you pay for your all-seeing crystal ball that tells us exactly how impossible situations would have turned out had certain people lived or not lived, anyway?

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link

relax, man, it's just a joke, it's not meant to be taken literally...it's just extending a line of thought introduced by the essay.

shookout, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 01:01 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
I really hope Jeff Chang reviews this book:

Triksta
Life and Death and New Orleans Rap
Written by Nik Cohn
Music - Rap Hardcover
November 2005 $22.95 1-4000-4245-3

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In Triksta, a masterful observer of movements that emerge from dark corners to become worldwide phenomena–early rock ’n’ roll and “Saturday Night Fever,” to name but two –gives us a mesmerizing account of a city, its music, and a way of life that often embraces death.

Nik Cohn’s love of hip-hop goes back to its beginnings, and his love of New Orleans even further, to when he passed through on tour with The Who and discovered a place whose magic has never failed to seize him. As a white, foreign-born writer without money or bling, he would seem the least likely rap impresario imaginable, yet he plunges into this violent and poverty-ravaged world as a would-be producer. His passionate involvement with the music and the people who make it leads him through a New Orleans–wards, clubs, and projects–hidden from anyone not born to it: a journey into the heart of the hip-hop dream. En route, he immerses us in lives we scarcely think about, and then only with ignorance and fear, lives at once desperate, heroic, and endlessly enterprising as these men and women driven by talent and passion struggle to survive. Cohn captures a music that’s hugely popular but rarely understood, and with transcendent humanity he reveals this beloved city in all its tragic beauty.

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Nik Cohn is the author of six previous books, as well as two collaborations with the artist Guy Peellaert. He was born in London, raised in Northern Ireland, and now lives on Shelter Island, New York.

borzai, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

what right does cohn have to say nigga or even write it unless its come from a black persons mouth? the way he uses it just sounds wrong anyway

yawn, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

funnily enough, i just read a long piece about nik cohn and this book and his life in new orleans.

anyway, he comes across as extremely conscious of and humble about his position (old english white guy) vs his subjects (young black rappers). (ps, for the shelter island hataz, he has spent time living in new orleans and has an apartment there. next to a crack house, for extra authenticity).

also, he was even more ahead of his time than i had previously realized--not only invented saturday night fever, but also has a claim on ziggy stardust and pinball wizard too.

plus, he really should be rehabilitated as the OG Popist.

so, step off bitches.

bugged out, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link


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