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Doom-metal goes all Disintegration-era Cure.

What do the geeks think?

Stupid, Friday, 21 November 2003 22:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think I need to heard this album RIGHT NOW THEN. But Siegbran and John D. and others should also comment.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 November 2003 23:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Alternative 4 was a mindblowing step in my young adulthood.

Cameron (Cameron), Friday, 21 November 2003 23:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic. Whether they're doing doom, psych, Floydish pop, left field rock, post punk, or goth rock, they kick ass.

The new album, incidentally, is incredible. It covers a lot of ground musically and I highly recommend checking it out as soon as possible.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Saturday, 22 November 2003 02:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

i only have _serenades_, which is passable doom metal. i suppose i should check out the later stuff.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 22 November 2003 04:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jumping in a little late, but "The Silent Enigma" is flawless. They lost me with "Alternative 4", though - that stuff is alright I suppose but those dirgy riffs on the first four albums (and the demos and the EPs) were what made them gods. Haven't heard the new album though - I really should.

Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 16:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

I loved Alternative 4 when it came out. I went back a few months ago and the lyrics were all teen angsty goodness, but Empty should have been a hit.

That one track on Silent Enigma has some of the best screaming ever (Suicide Veil?).

Jordan C, Tuesday, 25 November 2003 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Great stuff. I love everything since "The Silent Enigma" (including the new one - needs some more spins to have an opinion).

And of course, if you like them, you'll need to check out Katatonia, My Dying Bride, The Gathering or mid-career Paradise Lost.

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 17:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

nine months pass...
Reviving just to say absolute classic. That transition from doom metal to psych floydian rock was really seamless and organic, probably something to do with the two brothers in the band (and the original vocalist leaving).

I find them to be a real albums band and any later-period-Roger-Waters Floyd fan who hasn't heard them should def. check them out.

Serenades has the more trad. metal vox, but from The Silent Enigma on it gets much more atmospheric and orchestrated with the clean vocals. Eternity is a good place to start and Judgement with its track "One Last Goodbye" about the mother of the two brothers passing away is simply beautiful.

piers (piers), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

"Classic. Whether they're doing doom, psych, Floydish pop, left field rock, post punk, or goth rock, they kick ass."


James Slone speaks for me, all the way back in 2003.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

I had no idea they were still going. I saw them at the Garage when I was about 15, supported by At the Gates. I quite liked them at the time, but I reckon they're probably quite shit, like most doom metal. Metal should be FAST!

Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:36 (twenty years ago) link

Wooden where have you been for the last 8 years? These days Anathema are closer to Elbow than Doom Metal !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:39 (twenty years ago) link

I heartily approve of all two of the albums I have heard by this band(namely Judgement and A Natural Disaster, I believe.)

chuck, Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

Martian, for the last 8 yeard I have been listening to things other than Anathema.

Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:47 (twenty years ago) link

"8 years"

Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

Do Anathema have much of a following in the UK given they've moved away from metal to left-field-rock or whatever? IE, are their fans non-metal now?

piers (piers), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

no, they still have plenty of metal fans.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:12 (twenty years ago) link

Good to hear!

piers (piers), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

I just downloaded "One Last Goodbye" and some other tune. Yeah, they're no longer Doom Metal but they are DUD. You're all a bunch of goths. No offence.

Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:19 (twenty years ago) link

you are a BEAUTY-HATER!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

Haha! I'd write that on my business card, if I had one.

Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:34 (twenty years ago) link

Wooden's badge of honour!

In time, you will come to understand my son ;)

piers (piers), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:59 (twenty years ago) link

WOODEN

Registered beauty-hater

By royal appointment

Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 27 August 2004 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
search:

the crestfallen

serenades

pentecost III

the silent enigma

eternity

alternative 4

judgement

a fine day to exit

a natural disaster


and: the resonance & resonance 2 collections


destroy:


nothing


also search: the last two Antimatter albums. Especially *Lights Out*

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 24 March 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

these guys give NIN a SERIOUS run for their money in the "best song called Closer" stakes

and now I'm gonna go listen to all their stuff

Young Chizzy (country matters), Tuesday, 21 April 2009 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link

sometimes i get a little spooked by how much i love Judgement. I've probably listened to that album a hundred times or more and every time it ends i just want to play it again. it's the heroin in my record collection. or the crack. or the meth. basically, i would never want to live without it.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 April 2009 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I listened to that album a coupla times through yesterday, it was really sweet. Will stick it on again now.

Young Chizzy (country matters), Tuesday, 21 April 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Their attempt at becoming Nickelback (Alternative 4) is the only album of them I actively dislike, but everything afterwards is just a bit meh. A bit of radio rock, bit of Pink Floyd-esque atmospherics, emotional lyrics, overwrought singing, same formula over and over again...I can't really find a fault with it but can't really imagine anyone getting overexcited about it - but strangely I keep running into ppl who do think those albums are life-changing events.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 21 April 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, it's not quite blowing my mind yet, but there's an intriguing kernel of semi-lucid agony which these guys evince. It's gotten under my skin, I'll say that. Not many individual songs have stunned me yet ("Closer" aside). The albums seem to work quite well as ensemble pieces.

Young Chizzy (country matters), Tuesday, 21 April 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I am yet to give "Eternity" or the early stuff a good go though, so maybe that'll be the ticket. "Judgement" and "A Natural Disaster" and "A Good Day To Exit" are the ones I've listened to all the way through; they're all very listenable, they suck you into their world quite convincingly.

Young Chizzy (country matters), Tuesday, 21 April 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

this band has been really speaking to me recently

the juddering triumph of camembert (acoleuthic), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

are you sad

hey trader joe's! i've got the new steely dan. (Jordan), Thursday, 12 November 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Saw them live at the Camden Underworld supported by At the Gates back in 96 or something. Great gig. ATG were better though.

I am flesh and blood. You are software and circuitry. (chap), Thursday, 12 November 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I am not sad! But the nights are drawing in. They have a nobility which suits this time of year.

the juddering triumph of camembert (acoleuthic), Thursday, 12 November 2009 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i am sad and the second half of the album 'a natural disaster' is not what i needed to hear right now, but dammit if it's not playing

...'violence' is just...just...oh man.

GET THAT BABY JESUS RIGHT UP YE (acoleuthic), Friday, 27 November 2009 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

New album is out and is good, maybe even very good in their own quiet way.
The Pink Floyd/ Cure vibes are still there, but there's a new fresh, summery feeling that I quite like.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 09:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I CARE

RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

SO MUCH I'M FINALLY LISTENING TO IT

IT'S REALLY GOOD

acoleuthic, Friday, 24 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

SADLY NOBODY ELSE CARES BUT HONESTLY THIS IS REALLY GOOD STUFF

acoleuthic, Friday, 24 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

So I've only heard their newest, which I checked out after seeing it pop up in a bunch of places. I really don't get too much of The Cure vibes, more Floyd though. A lot of it I find kinda boring though, how does this (Weather Systems) stack up against the older stuff discussed in this thread?

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 October 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

just heard the first three tracks, if you like this sound work your way backwards through the catalog. they used to be my one of my favorite bands, but I got tired of all this emotional excess. it is just. too. much.

it is sad what happened to the melodic death / doom / goth metal bands from the early 90s, most of them (all?) ended up doing this sort of tearful and overproduced hard rock. compare all that crying to these two songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gugSkeY_hPA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgSIRIwJWoA

wolves lacan, Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

thanks! yeah its weird running into what those bands sound like now. for example, i'd never heard a Paradise Lost record before until this year's. read a lot about them, but i missed out on them. anyway, i hear the new one and i'm like, "people think this is awesome?! like this is barely better than Nickelback".

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

man, they're still going? i was way into PL circa 'draconian times', and the record before and after that.

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

late-night silent enigma listening session in headphones here - really good. interesting to me to hear the legacy of first valor/rozz era Xian death & Celtic Frost's take on that synthesized in this band - I think those strains have a heavy legacy in this sort of mournful doom

fuck, maybe there's better shit to dig at 230 am with some whiskey but I'm hard pressed to say what it is. the depth of the journey on this album is the whole deal, those repeating picked notes in the "nocturnal emission" fade...the ongoing hum...what an album

Yeah all time top 10 for me, that one.

Siegbran, Monday, 15 October 2012 06:50 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

CLASSIC.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Monday, 23 January 2017 18:56 (seven years ago) link

I saw them at the Old Trout in Windsor. Must have been, christ, 1993? They were fantastic. Had no idea they still existed or that they'd changed styles. Listening to Violence right now. Nice chops.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:00 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

awww. their last album was really good.

Simon H., Tuesday, 22 September 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link

Oh man, I was just thinking a few days ago that we should be hearing news of a new album soon.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link

that is fuckin sad as hell, these guys have been at it so long.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 04:56 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

This was just posted to the Anathema FB page. I have to assume they have done this with Daniel's permission but this is so fucking weird.

Anathema
15m ·
We want to let you know that unfortunately life has been very tough on one of our band members, Dan, in the last two years, and He has attempted suicide.
He has has been under a chronic and profound depression for years.
He survived the suicide attempt and is getting better. It’s a miracle he survived the last two years at all. He never left the house for a year, and contrary to theories, he was never institutionalised in any way and has never in his life had contact from the police, or the psychiatric services.
Dan is a reasonably decent human being who seems to have become lost. Hasn’t been himself at all for years.
He did go voluntarily to hospital once for a few days, to avoid the ability to commit suicide, but apparently the NHS facility was even more depressing. The NHS need help and we are pledging 10% of our GoFundMe to the mind charity.
We are now working to bring something good to the world and Dan wants to improve as a human being and be a better man, and never do anything so stupid again. His doctor is also trying his best to prevent suicide happening again.
He is under professional mental health care and is very dedicated to 12 step of addiction recovery, of which he is very active. Dan has been diagnosed with profound depression, daily chronic horrific anxiety, complex post traumatic stress disorder for 25 - 30 years, and he has ADHD. He has not been himself at all for 4 years now, at least.
Many of you share this type of struggle. Maybe music is part of healing.
Hard lessons have been well learned. This was the hardest. Lessons were learned. Maybe that’s why we have hard times.
We wish Dan a good recovery. Obviously we were not sure if posting this was a good idea, but the truth is the truth, and perhaps it’s time you heard it.
Blessing and love and forgiveness ✨
We truly hope all of you , every single one of you without exception, live happy and blessed lives.
Yours in healing
Weather Systems band and management

akm, Friday, 20 May 2022 20:26 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

I really like the Weather Systems album that came out this year - Danny Cavanaugh's post-Anathema project - and I just listened to an interview on Youtube with him and he says that basically 80% of it would have been the next Anathema record. Which makes sense when you hear it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GniFhDVK-Do

scott seward, Friday, 29 November 2024 19:51 (one week ago) link

the interview is funny because he basically says that the album was nice and easy to make since he didn't have to fight with anyone about any of the songs. ha! i guess that would make it easier...

scott seward, Friday, 29 November 2024 19:53 (one week ago) link

i guess my point is: you could totally get away with saying that its a new Anathema album.

scott seward, Friday, 29 November 2024 19:54 (one week ago) link

When I heard this track it bugged me for ages cause I felt like I knew the gang vocal chant from somewhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g3aqO7ejdc

Then I realised it was appropriated from this, same key and everything...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiI_8TEkOgI

Maresn3st, Friday, 29 November 2024 19:59 (one week ago) link

i watched this on my big t.v. + big speakers recently and it sounded so cool. one of those rare occasions where i really enjoy the rock + orchestra thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F77b2Ta7_4

scott seward, Friday, 29 November 2024 20:32 (one week ago) link

weather systems is such a beautiful album. the anathema album. i will always love judgement most probably just cuz i have been obsessed with it since i first heard it but weather systems takes what i love about judgement and just makes it stronger and bigger and arguably better. the mix of vocals is so great.

scott seward, Friday, 29 November 2024 20:40 (one week ago) link


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