Search And Destroy: Lou Reed

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Another thread we used to get great play from on a.m.a. was "Search And Destroy". The idea being that you would take a band or artist of some general repute, and suggest the one record (or track or whatever) that interested parties should SEARCH for, and the one that you would like to see DESTROYed. Geddit? Anyway, Uncle Lou, over to you.

Tom, Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'll have to cheat on the search part: search for the first two Velvets albums (yeah I know obvious). Destroy: all his solo albums. All of them, master? All of mercy!

Omar, Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Search: Live in Italy Destroy: "Hot Hips"

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Search: The one where he tried to reconcile heavy metal and polymer chemistry (and, accordingly, shut his damn mouth and let technology do all the work)...Micro Machine Molybdenum (A Tribute to David Bowie's Asshole!), I think it was called...

Destroy: "His next one" has generally proven to be the correct answer.

Kris P., Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh come on, there were a couple of good songs on "Ecstasy". But in your heart, you know it's just... shite. I'd be curious to know what you all think of Metal Machine Music. I haven't heard it, but the other pure noise stuff I've heard (Merzbow, Borbetomagus etc.) can be surprisingly interesting.

Search: White Light, White Heat(!) Destroy: New York. Eeesh.

Dave M., Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Search: The transcriptions of Lester Bangs' conversations with Reed in his essay collection. That's the funniest Lou has ever been, if they're accurate.

Bonus Search: I'm always on the lookout for a vinyl copy of Metal Machine Music, naturally.

Destroy: The live album _Take No Prisoners_ is also very funny, but only the first time through. After that's it's extremely annoying.

Mark Richardson, Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I just need to drive in how very very bad "Hot Hips" is. Created for the soundtrack of the 1985 film, "Perfect" (featuring Jamie Lee Curtis and John Travolta) right in the middle of Lou's hideous Mistrial period (that being the album I would destroy) it features a terrible guitar riff looping while Lou intones "hey hey, hit hit, baby don't you ever stop with those hot hips" over and over and... ick. I have this as a 12" single. "Disco Mystic" at least has a nice guitar workout beneath the dreck.

As for "Live in Italy" this is simply Lou's best live album, featuring the classic Quine/Saunders/Maher lineup.

Sterling Clover, Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Destroy: Judging by his performance last May at the Albert Hall, any tickets for upcoming performances. I was young (well, 17), impressionable, thought that maybe he might still be some good. how sadly wrong I was. 2 and a half hours of extreme boredom as lou plays, without saying a word, accompanied by a hideously wanky (is that actually a word?) session band thing. and the audience: Oh! Middle aged, office workers...when they clapped a 10 MINUTE GUITAR SOLO I almost had a heart attack. Then, they stood up and clapped along during the encore. However, it must be said that the version of Sweet Jane he played was passable.

Never trust anyone who might be definable as a 'hero'...


Bill, Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Search: Live at Alice Tully Hall (bootleg)

Destroy: My Love is Chemical (not as bad as hot hips, but it was already taken)

JM, Friday, 2 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Word Bill! I had exactly the same experience with Lou live some years ago. Somebody gave me a free ticket, so hey let's check out the old Rawk Legend who used to be somebody play in a respectable theater for Real Art...did the motherfucker almost bore me to death with his muso- band and his shite "the first half we're going to play the whole 'Magic & Loss album live". Oohh the wretched sight of middle aged arseholes going mental when he finally played "Sweet Jane".

Omar, Friday, 2 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

SEARCH: Someone once taped me Lou's "I'm-quitting-smack-no-really-I- mean-it-this-time" opus, 'Legendary Hearts', and it's really pretty good. DESTROY: Everything from the mullet years?

stevie troussé, Friday, 2 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

First, "My Love is Chemical" is, I think, on the whole, decent. Lou of course delivers nothing but the vocals, but at least the funk is approaching real, which is more than most of Lou's wannabe funk stuff. Almost has that "Nowhere at all" feel to it. Also may I take this occasion to note that "Growing Up in Public" is Lou's most underrated album, featuring orchestration to rival "Berlin" and featuring classic smart/dumb reed humor.

Sterling Clover, Friday, 2 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

_metal machine music_ is average feedback drone, maybe a 6 out of 10. not nearly as bad as its detractors claim (it does have some nice textures and the locked groove at the end is cool) but too long and too shrill with no major sonic revelations and no attention seemingly paid to large-scale structure. still, i thought it, or at least side c, was pretty impressive when i was 18 and i'd probably still take it over what i've heard of the rest of lou reed's solo work.

sundar subramanian, Monday, 5 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Stevie, you silly thing. 'The Mullet Years' include NEW YORK!!! You'd better not destroy that!

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Listen up pOnks. The majority of Reeds solo output is fantastic. The First album, Berlin, Blue Mask, The Bells, New Sensations.

Metal Machine Music was a total Fuck you to the record company, critics and consumers. Rock N Roll suicide. He believed his best work (Berlin) was overlooked while his worst was popular. So to get revenge he decided to make an album truly bad. The concept, cover and joke deserve a 10 out of 10. "My week beats your year." - classic.

Even at his worst (Mistrial), he had a great video of a robot tearing off the latex "flesh" from its face. Magic and Loss can strain one patience but there are truly beautiful moments on that album. Also not a big fan of Growing up in Public, Legendary Hearts, Rock N Roll Heart.

Disco Mystic off of the Bells is great. you can laugh and get down at the same time.

Cash Lone, Sunday, 25 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two months pass...
Search: Take No Prisoners, by far the greatest live album of all time by any artist. It has it all, comedy, drama, farce, brilliant musicianship (see the intro to "I wanna Be Black" Destroy: My head says destroy nothing... but my heart says destroy "Magic and Loss", the most self-indulgent of Reed's works, IMHO. Of course, it was a great way to kill the commercial success he enjoyed following "New York"

BTW, Ecstacy is BRILLIANT... cover to cover... It should be the Number One record of the decade.

Brian Shields, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Since I'm about to pass out (sleep dep. not drink/drugs, thank you) I'll keep it short and sweet :


Oh, almost fell asleep with just that :


Anyways...'Berlin' is (in my humble opinion) easily one of Lou's greatest achievements. Side two (in particular) is truly near flawless. And that in and of itself deserves attention from any serious rock/pop music listeners ears.

michael g. breece, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"truly near flawless": what mean? (what's a FLAW to you?) .
"that in and of itself deserves attention": why? What if we like flawed things? What if rock is ABOUT flaws?
PS I like Berlin too. But I want to know your REAL reasons, not your ad copy reasons...

mark s, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Ad copy"? "What mean?"

Those ARE my "true" reasons. As I stated, I was beyond tired and kept it short and sweet (as opposed to my near rants in previous posts). Anyways, "near flawless" is to mean whatever it means to each and every individual, obviously. What is a "flaw" to me may not be to you (and vice versa), of course.

Anyways, in this particular case (Lou Reed 'Berlin'): "near flawless" would mean (to me, of course) the fact that Lou was able to put on wax (record) the entire second side (other than the final track) in a near (seeing as everything has flaws, regardless of ones individual definition, nothing is perfect - doesn't exist, not in my mind anyways) flawless manner. The expressions sought (or seemingly sought - since you're clearly one for games of silly semantics) after on side two are expressed as well as I (the listener) could have hoped for them to be expressed. Which I (personally, of course) can not say the same for side one (which is riddled with flaws, in my opinion).

Hope that helps. If not, don't expect another reprise.

Now, it's only fair that YOU (sir) further elaborate on your VERY scantily written response to the original question: Search and Destroy-Lou Reed (of course, I chose to focus my response on 'Berlin' don't have to, though - in case you were not aware of this).

*By the way, rock (along with anything/everything else in life) isn't MEANT to be "flawed" nor "flawless". It is whatever the individual views it to be (reality is...that there isn't a concrete reality - dig?).

*Also, a part of Lou's appeal IS that he and his music, etc, are "flawed" (opinion depending of course, Mr. that Mr. Grainofsalt).

michael g. breece, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Hope this helps" - it doesn't help me. Not that it has to, but anyway. The "expressions sought after" - yes but what are they? Or what do you think they are? I mean if there's one rocker who's probably made it very clear what 'expressions' they've been after on any given record it's probably Lou Reed, but I've not read any of what LR has to say so maybe you can elucidate.

I don't get much out of "Berlin" - it's got my favourite LR song on though ("Sad Song") which seems to crystallise the exhaustion and frustration of the rest of the record nicely, and move beyond the squalid specifics of the rest of the album (which are OK in a short- story way but don't move me) to something more universal. But I'm a sucker for the universal.

Tom, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

First off, I should (here it is) give a semi-apology to Mark for that somewhat "bitchy" response I just gave. It's just I tend to have a bit of a "thing" for when folks focus on semantics, is all. So, that response probably came off a bit more rough than maybe it should have. Just one of those personal "things" (for me - we all have some of those personal "things/issues/whatever" lurking about, you know that seem irrational to those who don't have the same "thing" lurking, etc).


michael g. breece, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm not one to worry about/read what the artists themselves have to say about their own work (just one of those things that I, personally, don't believe in - having art dictated to me, even by the artists themselves). So, I certainly can't touch upon what Lou might have wished expressed via 'Berlin'.

However, from what I gather and/or feel: Side two (again, I'll just stick with the half that I, personally, prefer) is just complete and utter despair and helplessness (which you've, I'm sure, already figured out). From the fact that violence can no longer control the situation nor can drugs on "Caroline Says II" to having kids being taken away to his loss of control of his gal in "The Kids" to the suicide in "The Bed" to the final cut "Sad Song" ending (appropriately, though this is my least favorite of the second side, it's still a fine track) with the male lead of the album dealing with his over-all "railroading" (or his dealing with the truth of his gal not measuring up to his wants/needs/wishes/whatever) - which probably means that he, himself, is simply not facing the facts about himself (Lou?).

Just a life (lives, actually) completely and utterly spun (not spinning, but already spun) out of any semblance of control. Which some of us (unfortunately) can relate to, on some level, such depths of darkness or human suffering. Which is what I meant by "near flawless expression". To/for me, side two just hits the deepest-darkness moments in life right on the head (bullseye) - as far as the expression or feeling. Albeit ULTRA dark moments (which, luckily, most of us have to take in a more abstract sense in order to relate to).

But, yea...see I'm just the opposite of you - I very much prefer the short story details (whether in song or literature, etc). Regardless of how downright unbearable they may be (such is the case on side two, in particular).

Well, I know that my galfriend can't freakin stand the album. She just couldn't take the amount of hatred and misery she felt from it. Which I find somewhat liberating in some odd (maybe even perverse) way.

michael g. breece, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Er, semantics wd seem to be yr bag/ projection/obsession, MGB: I just wanted some specifics. Like a specific reason you like it which might (eg) risk causing someone else to hate it: "flawless" is "ad copy" cuz everyone can get with it. Everything's "flawless" if you just define flawless to mean what this or that given individual considers flawless: which wd mean every record that ANYONE considers flawless (acc.their def.) "deserves attention from any serious rock/pop music listener's ears". Why so evasive/defensive?

I tht I did Reed already: can't find it here, musta been on another thread.
SO: metal machine music = ok by me; the rest = ok by me, but I wouldn't agitate to impede their destruction by Xtian fundie vinyl- pyre.

Don't stop digging through these ancient threads!! Don't even slow down!! I wuv to see what piffle I wuz dropping back in the day (= May).

mark s, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

You're right - hence the apology, Mark. After re-reading what I had sent in response, I saw that I was being more defensive than I should've been. As I stated previously, I've have some "issues" with the matter of semantics - so, that is why I perceived your original response, to be a matter semantics. Whereas now, I can see your point-of-view more clearly (in that you were just wanting further elaboration). See, that is the funny thing about "issues"...they get in the way of seeing something as clearly as one should. Which is why they are referred to as "issues". Needless to say, I'm not much on socializing (have the proverbial "chip on the old shoulder" more than I should). But, I'm trying. Thanks, though, for pointing that out.

michael g. breece, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Live - Take No Prisoners. The funniest and liveliest live album I know, someone said it before.

Studio - Magic & Loss. Lou doesn't lose his humour on this one. Very, very touching lyrics. For the subject adequate minimal low-key instrumentation.

N.B. I guess this was the first S&D. Rather short I think. Btw I just found out (but you probably all know) that "Search & Destroy" was a song on "Raw Power" by The Stooges.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 14:10 (twenty years ago) link

also totally excellent film starring griffin dunne

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 14:14 (twenty years ago) link

Search: Coney Island Baby, Berlin
Destroy: except for a few lifted tracks (like "Dirt" from Street Hassle, "Viscious Circle" from Rock and Roll Heart, "Nobody But You" from Songs for Drella, etc.), just about everything else.

christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

I won't touch most of the stuff already mentioned (I dig parts of Magic And Loss and Songs For Drella, Hot Hips, little else) but I got a give shout out to this one.

Destroy: The Bells. Not only is his voice incredibly wavery and flatulent on this one. I dare anyone to truly "get down" to "Disco Mystic". Unless they meant suffer immediate depression.

Oh, and if you really wanna Search, just get the box set. A listenable survey of a chap I'm too young and too unworshipping of NYC to appreciate beyond those sweet, sweet Velvets.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 16:42 (twenty years ago) link

Search: Transformer, and actually a lot of his stuff is pretty good...

Tripple destroy: Metal Machine Music.

David Allen, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 22:58 (twenty years ago) link

C'mon, search: Street Hassle (one of the best songs ever!)
also search: Songs for Drella, Transformer, Some of those other 70s ones.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

MMM is a lot better than I gave it credit for on Feb 4, 2001.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 25 November 2002 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

me need this on vinyl.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 25 November 2002 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

me need this on vinyl.

$25 at the Django's in Portland, Oregon a few weeks ago.

hstencil, Monday, 25 November 2002 22:27 (twenty years ago) link

You need Berlin, Blue Mask, Magic and Loss and MMM. But then, I like the horribly sad, tragicicicic Lou Reed. You may prefer his more glammy/hard rockin' type stuff.

You, of course, need the 4 VU studio albums and Live: 1969.

All of his live albums that I've heard are pretty desolate.

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 04:21 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
haha, was this thread the genesis of "search and destroy" on ilm?

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 March 2003 22:11 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
Is modern-day Lou any good live? He's gonna be in Phoenix next month and I was wondering if it's worth making a two hour drive to see him.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 9 May 2003 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Search: Lou Reed, Blue Mask, Live In Italy, Berlin, New York
Destroy: The Bells, Rock & Roll Heart
Good, but overrated: Transformer, Rock & Roll animal
Good, and underrated: Growing Up In Public, Legendary Hearts

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Friday, 9 May 2003 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
His new Best Of has "I Wanna Be Black" on it! Classic!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
I heard a chunk of New York a couple days a go in a cab. What crap. Oh, he's a poet. Alright.

Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 5 June 2004 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
was really diggin lou's acoustic guitar parts on Berlin yesterday afternoon. the lyrics are so dismal, i didnt pay much attention to them (even though yeah-im a sucka for the short story details)

horrible album art i'm afraid

kephm (kephm), Monday, 11 October 2004 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Search: Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts, New Sensations, Live in Paris

Basically any albums with fretless bassist Fernando Saunders are great. His '80s and '90s work is overlooked.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

A few people mentioned the live album Take No Prisoners. I find it's not so well known, but fans should check it out. It has some totally transcendant moments: the looong ending to Coney Island Baby; the guitar break in Satellite of Love; the killer bass riffing in Street Hassle.

todd (todd), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Take No Prisoners is excellent, especially when he completely loses his shit during "Walk on the Wild Side."

I discovered Lou through "New York," so that will probably always be my favorite solo album. After that, probably Berlin, Transformer, and this "Master Class" bootleg (with Little Jimmy Scott) that I really need to Torrent one of these days.

subgenius (subgenius), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 06:39 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Search: any Lou album containing the word "alright"
Destroy: yourself with scotch, cynicism, meth & tai chi.

Delmore Schwartz, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 01:17 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

dude are you nuts, "What are you, a fucking asshole?" is one of the all-time great interview answers

J0hn D., Tuesday, 10 June 2008 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link


Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link

classic asshole

deeznuts, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

lou reed, a real classhole

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

but seriously, J0hn D, you should def. try to work "What are you, a fucking asshole?" into any future interviews you do.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I have no idea lol.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 3 June 2022 21:03 (nine months ago) link

Only in the evening.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 June 2022 21:57 (nine months ago) link

Well then. (Ignore the title, these are 1965 demos.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 June 2022 04:57 (nine months ago) link

Reminding me that Life of a Dog is a wonderful Laurie album (some say the film is not so hot, but I haven't seen it). Lou gets walkies as well.

dow, Monday, 6 June 2022 05:12 (nine months ago) link

The world needed a version of Waiting for the Man with a harmonica solo.

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 6 June 2022 07:58 (nine months ago) link

A bonus 7-inch, housed in its own unique die-cut picture sleeve and manufactured at Third Man Record Pressing includes the only vinyl release of six previously-unreleased bonus tracks providing a never-before-seen glimpse into Reed’s formative years, including early demos, a cover of Bob Dylan’s “Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right,” and a doo-wop serenade recorded in 1958 when the legendary singer-songwriter was just sixteen years old. An accompanying saddle-stitched, die-cut 28-page book features lyrics, archival photos, and liner notes Also included is an archival reproduction of a rarely-seen letter, written by Reed to his college professor and poet, Delmore Schwartz, circa 1964. The set includes a CD containing the complete audio from the package, housed in a die-cut jacket.

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 June 2022 15:49 (nine months ago) link

this previously unreleased collection of songs—penned by a young Lou Reed, recorded to tape with the help of future bandmate John Cale, and mailed to himself as a “poor man’s copyright”—remained sealed in its original envelope and unopened for nearly 50 years.

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 June 2022 15:53 (nine months ago) link

lmao when that harmonica solo comes in, incredible

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 June 2022 16:10 (nine months ago) link

Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

discussed here too

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 June 2022 16:31 (nine months ago) link

Hal Willner one of the producers listed below, so this has been in the works a while,wonder what he did. Guess the podcast might be worth checking out? (I suspect this whole thing might be more interesting historically than musically, like some of the Beatles demos: "Yep, that's a really early version alright, can see why they thought it needed more work, ho-hum.") Judging also by those earliest demos on Peel Slowly and See.

Featuring contributions from Reed’s future bandmate, John Cale, Words & Music, May 1965 presents in their entirety the earliest-known recordings of such historic songs as “Heroin,” “I’m Waiting for the Man,” and “Pale Blue Eyes”—all of which Reed would eventually record and make indelibly influential with The Velvet Underground. Also included are several more previously-unreleased compositions that offer additional insight into Reed’s creative process and early influences. Produced by Laurie Anderson, Don Fleming, Jason Stern, Hal Willner, and Matt Sullivan, the album features newly-remastered audio from the original tapes by GRAMMY®-nominated engineer, John Baldwin. Rounding out the package are new liner notes from acclaimed journalist and author, Greil Marcus, plus in-depth archival notes from Don Fleming and Jason Stern, who oversee the Lou Reed Archive.

To help celebrate the release, Light in the Attic will also invite listeners to intimately experience Words & Music through a podcast hosted by TV on the Radio's Tunde Adebimpe. In partnership with Little Everywhere and Ruinous Media, this special program will feature exclusive audio, archival materials, and interviews with many of the album's participants. Available on all podcast platforms on August 26th.

dow, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:48 (nine months ago) link

A coworker told a story last night about an incident (years ago) in which their wife was fawning over someone's dog on the street ("Oh, what a cute dog!," petting it profusely, etc.) – then as they walked away, they noticed that the dog owner was Lou.

― subject matter expert (morrisp),

Thought you were going to say "The dog was Lou."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 June 2022 20:29 (nine months ago) link

Rock 'n roll animal.

subject matter expert (morrisp), Monday, 6 June 2022 20:34 (nine months ago) link

Love the cassette from his archive that has "Eagles One Of These Nights" scratched out on the label.

birdistheword, Thursday, 9 June 2022 03:50 (nine months ago) link

ha, yes

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 June 2022 11:55 (nine months ago) link

It was research for writing and recording "Crazy Feelin'" on Coney Island Baby.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 9 June 2022 14:43 (nine months ago) link

DON: There was always much more to our music than what met the eye or ear. Beyond the smooth surface lurked a heart of darkness, observing and reporting about all the dirty dealings on the West Coast. So naturally there was a feeling of kinship--and perhaps a little competition--with Lou Reed, who had the East Coast wrapped up in that department.

GLENN: The one I couldn't get over was Metal Machine Music...I just knew we could top that! So one weekend over at La Fontaine, we cleared out the den, rolled in the Marshalls, and busted out every acoustic guitar they had available at S.I.R. Things were going well until Linda [Ronstadt] called and invited out to see a production of Plaza Suite. Next thing I know, we're doing Don's Hotel thing as our next album instead of Cool Winds, Acoustic Waves.

DON: Well, yeah.


Double Elvis on the Dime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 June 2022 15:27 (nine months ago) link

A coworker told a story last night about an incident (years ago) in which their wife was fawning over someone's dog on the street ("Oh, what a cute dog!," petting it profusely, etc.) – then as they walked away, they noticed that the dog owner was Lou.

― subject matter expert (morrisp),

Thought you were going to say "The dog was Lou."

The dog was Iggy

That’s what I was figuring.

The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 June 2022 03:13 (nine months ago) link

nine months pass...

"New" Lou! Trigger warning: Tai-chi!

Guessing this is a "Mistrial"-era demo

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:41 (two weeks ago) link

hell yeah, hopefully a preview of a multi-disc Mistrial deluxe edition.

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:43 (two weeks ago) link

Me: "Man I would kill for a 'Take No Prisoners' box!"

Don Flemming: "Next best thing, Mistrial outtake about Tai-Chi!"

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:47 (two weeks ago) link

Assuming this is more book tie-in then taste of things to come

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:47 (two weeks ago) link

Haha yeah, they were probably like "now or never to release this one!"

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:50 (two weeks ago) link

My phone woke me up at 3 AM with an alert about this so at least the algorithm works

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:52 (two weeks ago) link

this mf spittin fr

"tai is very pret-tay"
tai chi is very slooow
tai chi can make you healthy
and sexier, you know"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 15:01 (two weeks ago) link

"I wanna be black belt!"


Mark G, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 22:22 (two weeks ago) link

I sometimes feel a little guilty about my own Lou Tai-Chi fatigue so it makes me feel a little less alone in this to see others expressing something similar.

Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 23:43 (two weeks ago) link

He missed out not making this song the single from Hudson River Meditations.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 16:43 (two weeks ago) link

i actually think hudson river meditations is good for kind of zone out ambient

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 17:24 (two weeks ago) link

How'd it take me so long to get to Live in Italy? This is great!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 March 2023 20:55 (four days ago) link


obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 27 March 2023 21:08 (four days ago) link


Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 March 2023 21:12 (four days ago) link

FWIW, this concert video is worth getting - again, with Lou, Quine, Saunders and Maher, I think in support of The Blue Mask at the Bottom Line in NYC. One of my favorites, and before things went sour between Lou and Quine:

Probably my favorite official live release from Lou's solo career, and even if you buy the DVD new, it's priced fairly low.

birdistheword, Monday, 27 March 2023 21:31 (four days ago) link

My 18yo son has been on a comprehensive solo Lou dive during the past week. He was already fully versed in VU. So far the primary effect is he went out and bought a vinyl copy of Street Hassle.

good move

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 27 March 2023 21:54 (four days ago) link

What does he think about I Want To Be Black?

My 13 year old daughter loves Transformer and asked if she could borrow my CD copy. I handed her Metal Machine Music and told her that it was made around the same time and to let me know what she thinks. I heard it squalling from her room for about five minutes and then she came back with a confused look and told me that the CD was messed up.

Cow_Art, Monday, 27 March 2023 21:56 (four days ago) link


obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 27 March 2023 22:02 (four days ago) link

What does he think about I Want To Be Black?

We had a whole conversation about it, that it's about a white fantasy of "blackness," but also that it's more than a little problematic and definitely wouldn't fly in 2023. He mostly skips it when it comes on because he's appropriately ambivalent about it.

Also he loves Metal Machine Music, but I expected that because he's kind of a harsh noise fanatic/connoisseur.

oh that's right isn't he the one that's into like Merzbow and Hijokaidan and such?

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 01:24 (three days ago) link

Yep. These days he's into super extreme contemporary stuff, things you can only order on cassette. I appreciate his enthusiasm even if I don't share it. (I was initially a little worried about the whole white supremacist side of noise, but instead he's found what seems like a really tight-knit queer-friendly scene. Lou would approve.)

I'm afraid to ask, but what's the white supremacist side of noise? Is it something that's catching on?

birdistheword, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 04:53 (three days ago) link

(that link was re: yr 1st question, answer to the second is "not any more than in metal, maybe less"

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 05:49 (three days ago) link

I am playing the first Lou Reed LP, LOU REED.

It's good.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 10:37 (three days ago) link

Thanks sleeve. Disturbing stuff, hopefully more journalists will call it out.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 17:23 (three days ago) link

I didn't know about those connections and I wrote a lengthy profile on Fernow for The Wire in 2011. Pissed me off quite a bit to find out.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 17:31 (three days ago) link

Yeah I was bummed because while my exposure to that musical world is very dilettantish, I actually like Vatican Shadow and saw him perform once.

I mean it goes back to Boyd Rice/Non, Whitehouse etc

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 17:52 (three days ago) link

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