Say Something Interesting about: Roy Orbison

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Was he truly the Robert Smith of the Rockabilly Era?
Discuss.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Saturday, 8 November 2003 04:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

his hair could do the work of ten men.

scott seward, Saturday, 8 November 2003 04:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

yay roy rocks

hellbaby (hellbaby), Saturday, 8 November 2003 04:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The Godfather of Emo.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 8 November 2003 04:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i used to think he was blind

keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 8 November 2003 04:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He'd still be as cool in 2003 as he was when he died.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 8 November 2003 04:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

A lot of people think he's blind, but I never did. I've got into big arguments about it before. Some people are really convinced he's blind.

Sonny A. (Keiko), Saturday, 8 November 2003 04:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I admit I thought about it. "Wait a second, is he blind?"

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 8 November 2003 05:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The man for whom the phrase "unfettered esophagus" was coined.

jazz odysseus, Saturday, 8 November 2003 05:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

he was my uncle.

TK, Saturday, 8 November 2003 05:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

he had the voice of robert smith, the hair and shades of ian mccullough, the florid lyricism and effete sensibility of morrissey, and the gloomy air of ian curtis, and like all of them he liked to wear black ... WHICH MEANS THAT HE INVENTED 1980s BRITISH INDIE-POP!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 8 November 2003 05:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He was the man many consider the Roy Orbison of his generation. Who are we to argue?

jazz odysseus, Saturday, 8 November 2003 05:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

His close friends knew that he wasn't blind, and would refer to him jokingly as "The All-Seeing Orb".

jazz odysseus, Saturday, 8 November 2003 05:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He did not have the voice of Robert Smith, nor the effete sensibility of Morrissey.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 8 November 2003 05:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

why not ask jim derogatis which of is more correct, mr. hebert?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 8 November 2003 06:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He's just cut me off and start talking about how great Urge Overkill is instead.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 8 November 2003 06:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

my wife and I had the opportunity to see him in Boston once, and I wussed out (trying to save money, I had none, etc.). then he fuckin' died like two weeks later or something. she's never let me forget about that one.

I was never officially a suspect in his death by the way.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 8 November 2003 06:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

His late Sixties/Early Seventies Jimmy Webb-style Überpop-opera recordings for MGM-Monument are totally slept on.

musicmope (musicmope), Saturday, 8 November 2003 11:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

1. The strongest swear word he ever used was "mercy".

2. He lost his wife and kids in a house fire.

Officer Pupp, Saturday, 8 November 2003 15:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Even Van Halen couldn't ruin his music.

Brandon Welch (Brandon Welch), Saturday, 8 November 2003 15:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'd like to wrap him in cling-film:
http://www.michaelkelly.fsnet.co.uk/karl.htm

JSizzler, Saturday, 8 November 2003 21:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They should reissue that first travelling wilbury's album

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Saturday, 8 November 2003 21:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I talked to a guy once who owned a sandwich shop that occupied a building that formerly housed a dive bar where Gregg Allman used to hide out between tours. So after he got done telling me about the night Gregg Allman came there and got drunk after breaking up with Cher, the sandwich shop owner mentioned that his dad used to own a motorcycle shop a little ways up the street, and one day in the late '60s a couple of bikes pull up in front, and in walks Roy Orbison with some good-looking biker chick. They made the rounds of the shop, and Roy placed orders for three bikes to be delivered to his place in Memphis or wherever he was living then. Roy was all in white leather, the guy said, and kept the sunglasses on the whole time. And his check cleared, too.

spittle (JesseFox), Saturday, 8 November 2003 22:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

When Bruce Springsteen starts mugging excessively while soloing on "Pretty Woman" in that black & white TV special, Roy totally looks like he's sorta embarassed and pissed. It's like an open mouthed professional half-smile.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 8 November 2003 22:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

why would a sighted person choose that haircut?

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 9 November 2003 00:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

or was it a wig?

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 9 November 2003 00:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

growl.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 9 November 2003 00:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Well, he is kinda like Jesus, in the fact that I consider both of them as "my motherfuckers up in heaven".

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 9 November 2003 01:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He was a guest on Night Network one night in the late 80s, along with the Voice of the Beehive. They were reviewing new videos and a late Smiths or early solo Morrissey song came on and Roy Orbison said how sad the singer seemed and how he felt bad for him.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 9 November 2003 12:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I sang 'In Dreams' on stage at the Edinburgh Festival last year.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 9 November 2003 12:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He originally wrote "Love Hurts"...recognized later as an overdone staple on FM by Nazerath, right?

thomas de'aguirre (biteylove), Sunday, 9 November 2003 14:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He was the man many consider the Roy Orbison of his generation. Who are we to argue?
-- jazz odysseus (nomorespa...), November 8th, 2003.


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His close friends knew that he wasn't blind, and would refer to him jokingly as "The All-Seeing Orb".
-- jazz odysseus (nomorespa...), November 8th, 2003.


Those two posts made my entire evening. I did end up hooping tonight with murky results and was nursing quite the frantic comedown until jazz odysseus set me straight. Cheers mon, I'll sleep to your honor.

DarrensCoq, Sunday, 9 November 2003 15:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Well basically my prime dread re: hooping kind of happened and for the first twenty minutes the pill burned in my ass in that nagging, infuriating way like when your belly-button ring accidentally gets yanked too hard. Would you believe it though, one of my friends took it upon herself to put a condom over her finger and re-orient the thing -- I hadn't the money for a second attempt -- after which I had a pretty good time. Not all it's cracked up to be, however, though it may be different for girls. I guess it's on you to find out for yourselves.

DarrensCoq, Sunday, 9 November 2003 15:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I sang 'In Dreams' on stage at the Edinburgh Festival last year.

Now I'm imagining you in Blue Velvet, N.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 9 November 2003 16:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He was a guest on Night Network one night in the late 80s, along with the Voice of the Beehive. They were reviewing new videos and a late Smiths or early solo Morrissey song came on and Roy Orbison said how sad the singer seemed and how he felt bad for him.

if only Roy Orbison hadn't died, b/c a duet w/ Morrissey would have been so cool!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 9 November 2003 17:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

texas vs. so cal - fite!

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 9 November 2003 17:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

His sixties style is based entirely on "It's Now or Never."

Burr (Burr), Sunday, 9 November 2003 22:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

if only Roy Orbison hadn't died, b/c a duet w/ Morrissey would have been so cool!
Subthread...
TS: Orbison and Morrissey vs Siouxsie Sioux and Edith Piaf... FITE!

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Sunday, 9 November 2003 23:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

My mum claims to be a fan but still thinks he's called Roy Orbiston.

This may not really be classified as "interesting" though.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 November 2003 23:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Okay, continuing with my analogy at the head of the thread...
If Roy Orbison *is* the Rockabilly Robert Smith...then who is the Rockabilly...
* Andrew Eldritch
* Siouxsie Sioux
* Valor (of Christian Death)

I'm sure that Nick Cave can find a mid-'50s equivalent, easy, But I'm unsure who? Elvis?

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Sunday, 9 November 2003 23:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He is HOTT when wrapped in cling film

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 02:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

what about swiss family orbison, they were pretty dire.

keith (keithmcl), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...
'in dreams' is about the best song anyone ever wrote.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 7 November 2004 11:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I find his melodies, arrangements, song structures, chord progressions incredibly original and never successfully imitated. "It's Over" is a real mindfuck of a song when you examine it.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

They should have played some Roy Orbison somewhere on one of the John Peel tribute shows. Peel loved him a lot.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I always found it strange that KD Lang and Chris Isaak not only both sound like Roy Orbison vocally, but look like each other (though not like Orbison.)

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I remember Peel saying how everyone had everyone been telling him to listen to Chris Isaak because he sounded like Roy Orbison. He did, and couldn't understand what they were on about. He was right.

The revival of this thread led me to listen to Orbisongs and In Dreams (the album) again this this afternoon. I'd never properly appreciated 'House Without Windows' and '(Say) You're My Girl)' before. Just thinking about Roy Orbison makes me sad.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Leah is another great/strange song.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

You know, that site that one person linked to above (and which I foolishly linked again, never post before reading folks, etc.) is still up, and still a thing of beauty.

'Mind you, people do not realize how much is on each roll. I bet that with a single roll alone I could wrap you up entirely.'

Roy Orbison sits impassively like a monochrome Buddha. My palms are sweaty.

'I will take that bet,' says Roy. 'If you succeed I will give you tickets to my new concert. If you fail I will take Jetta, as a lesson to you not to speak boastfully.'

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

'in dreams' is about the best song anyone ever wrote.

-- cºzen (skiplevel...), November 7th, 2004.


his best songs deserve to be a lot longer. as it is they often feel like they're over before they've begun. "it's over" is the classic example, but i guess that works on a thematic level.

i find chris isaak really sympathetic, although i haven't listened to his records in ages.

amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I was flipping through channels on Thanksgiving during post-eating and some kind of all-star concert was shown on PBS.. It was filmed in B&W, and I remember hearing "It's Over" and "Pretty Woman.."

billstevejim, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 05:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

wow ZS, I'm not sure if I envy you or pity you.

Dream Baby, Crying, Dream Baby, Pretty Woman: these songs are the sdtk to my life.

hard to imagine what could've replaced them, but the thought of approaching with fresh ears is appetizing

xp

billstevejim, that special is the greatest dream like music thing i've ever seen. kinda lynchian

STILL GEETIKA IN 2009 (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 05:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah I loved it.. I'm pretty sure most, if not all, of my family was into it, but there were people running in and out of the room a lot, so it's hard to tell.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 05:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Okay, I'm reading on wikipedia that he recorded a disco album called Laminar Flow in 1979. This sounds intriguing.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 05:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

LIFE FADES AWAY

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 14 December 2008 19:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

a friend of mine recently picked up a tape at a carboot sale with "boy or bison" written on the inlay card. he thought it was a great bandname and bought it for that reason. he got home and it was, of course, a roy orbison compliation.

NI, Sunday, 14 December 2008 20:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

His late Sixties/Early Seventies Jimmy Webb-style Überpop-opera recordings for MGM-Monument are totally slept on.
― musicmope (musicmope), Saturday, November 8, 2003 11:40 AM (5 years ago)

On the basis of the copy of 'Memphis' (1972) I just picked up, this would appear to be true - amazing song called 'Run the Engine High' by jerry McBee, that sounds like it could be the Box Tops, a bonkers, phased I fought the Law, and an even more Bonkers 'Danny Boy'

sonofstan, Saturday, 16 May 2009 11:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

"She's a Mystery to Me" is an obvious standout on Mystery Girl but this is a really strong album. The second half is particularly strong: "The Comedians" is excellent as is said above, as is "Windsurfer" and "Careless Heart" (the latter a Diane Warren co-write but let's not hold that against it).

Why do we always go for something we can't reach? Nobody ever really understands.

Euler, Saturday, 13 June 2009 16:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

roy orbison sing it for the lonely

Lamp, Saturday, 13 June 2009 19:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I really enjoyed the fact that half the music business seemed to be behind him, determined to give him a hit.

So true.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 June 2009 02:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

You know someone who said something interesting about Roy Orbison is Alan Sparhawk in that NPR Fresh Aire interview linked from the Low thread.

bamcquern, Saturday, 20 June 2009 02:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

christ, but Mystery Girl is a TREMENDOUS album. obviously I always loved "You Got It", but never heard the entire lp until I picked up a sealed copy for three bucks last weekend. so wonderful in every way. how sad that he wasn't around to bask in its glow.

Stormy Davis, Friday, 16 April 2010 03:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i love roy orbison more than life

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Something interesting. Hmmm...

I think I read somewhere that Elvis Presley got a phone call from somebody praising his new song, but it turned out to be one of Roy's singles.

Someone's face was red.

ImprovSpirit, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Roy Orbison was the first American rock musician to start using Marshall amps and bring them back to the USA after a UK tour.

earlnash, Friday, 21 May 2010 02:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

always listen to roy orbison at christmas

jabba hands, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 23:19 (six years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

No proper C/D thread, so...

I picked up the Bear Family "Roy Rocks" comp of his rockabilly and up-tempo material and it's just strength to strength. While I enjoy Roy's ballads more than most of his contemporaries I really appreciate this Rocks series approach, it concentrates on the stuff I like best.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 5 September 2011 01:16 (six years ago) Permalink

My favourite is Running Scared, an extraordinarily tense song. One of the live albums I have, he ends it on that huge "...with MEEEEEE!!!" and the audience goes wild, and then he just sings the last couple of lines another half dozen times, putting more into it each time. It's fantastic.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, November 7, 2004 11:13 PM (6 years ago)

martin OTM. this has been one of my favorite performances (on the record, haven't heard the live version) for ever and ever.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 5 September 2011 01:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Despite boasting an "anodyne" production (as I heard someone call Jeff Lynne's job last month), "You Got It" is such a remarkable piece of craft.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 September 2011 03:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Back in around 2006 or 2007 the RnR Hall of Fame had an Orbison exhibit. Among the artifacts was a hand-scrawled memo to himself essentially telling him to pull his shit together, from the mid-80s or so. It was in list form, kind of like "1) Fire manager; 2) Get new band" etc.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 5 September 2011 18:53 (six years ago) Permalink

that's interesting - i'd always chalked orbison's comeback to a confluence of factors: blue velvet, the showtime 'black and white night' special (this was a pretty big deal at the time), the 'crying' remake w/ kd lang and then the watershed w/ traveling wilburys and mystery girl. i'd never even considered that he might've been the active catalyst behind it.

balls, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Was the subject of a bizarro early attempt to create stereo LPs from old mono recordings when stereo became big in the mid-60s, which budget label Design Records did by putting the original recording on the left channel, and overdubbing new instruments on the right channel. Unfortunately, someone thought that a tambourine and harmonica were the ticket to modernizing O's early recordings. Here's the sorry result. LOLling at description "Design Records vs. Roy Orbison", like it was an intended mash-up.....

Lee547 (Lee626), Monday, 5 September 2011 22:32 (six years ago) Permalink

xp The memo definitely predated "A Black & White Night," the Wilburys, and the kd lang collaboration. It was pretty fascinating, like he was taking stock: where have I been, where am I now, and where do I want to be?

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 5 September 2011 22:39 (six years ago) Permalink

How could Orbison be a passive agent in his own comeback?

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 September 2011 22:43 (six years ago) Permalink

had one of his songs featured in popular British sitcom "Only Fools And Horses". It was sung by a character in the show that was an ageing binman dressed up to look roughly like Tom Jones, who couldn't pronounce his R's properly. Thus, the song in question became 'Cwying'.

Turrican, Monday, 5 September 2011 22:47 (six years ago) Permalink

He should be swtiched off immediately if in the vicinity of Dennis Hopper with an oxygen cylinder

Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 18:23 (six years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

It's 1976 and the Big O has the number one album in the UK. How did that happen? I try to find out why.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Sunday, 8 April 2012 00:51 (five years ago) Permalink

his hair could do the work of ten men.
― scott seward, Saturday, 8 November 2003 04:07 (8 years ago) Bookmark

I'm not going leftfield on you... (hypehat), Sunday, 8 April 2012 00:58 (five years ago) Permalink

My buddy in junior high got dressed up like roy orbison, and I photographed him eating from a bowl of banana pudding.

....

Maybe I should've posted that in the seran wrap thread.

pplains, Sunday, 8 April 2012 01:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Well basically my prime dread re: hooping kind of happened and for the first twenty minutes the pill burned in my ass in that nagging, infuriating way like when your belly-button ring accidentally gets yanked too hard. Would you believe it though, one of my friends took it upon herself to put a condom over her finger and re-orient the thing -- I hadn't the money for a second attempt -- after which I had a pretty good time. Not all it's cracked up to be, however, though it may be different for girls. I guess it's on you to find out for yourselves.

― DarrensCoq, Sunday, November 9, 2003 9:06 AM (8 years ago)

tanuki, Sunday, 8 April 2012 01:22 (five years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

During recent Louvin Brothers jag discovered this pretty good Live From Batley Variety Club album: http://open.spotify.com/album/4LFrznrFAkcoprQqaWrCAc

ratso piazzolla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 June 2012 17:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Wait there's also Live from Birmingham, Live from Queen's Theatre, and Live from The Fiesta Club. Set Lists vary slightly. This one is the only one without "Leah," which is one of my favorites, although it is the only one with a cover of "When I Stop Dreaming," which is how I found it.

ratso piazzolla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 June 2012 17:45 (five years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

'in dreams' is about the best song anyone ever wrote.
― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, November 7, 2004 7:45 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Worth repeating.

This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Sunday, 21 October 2012 22:57 (five years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

I would not have expected the best song anyone ever wrote to start with the words "a candy-colored clown..."

Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 06:01 (two years ago) Permalink

...yet here we are.

Up until recently, I had discs from the box set in rotation in the car changer. I must say, all the superlatives thrown at the Monument stuff are true: amazing production elevating even the lesser material to stratospheric heights, and THAT VOICE. Interesting songwriting too. Have ya'll actually listened to "Leah"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2Ib3_jMp9s

Pretty strange...everything...for a hit from '63 or so.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 January 2015 07:29 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

got sucked in again into watching the 'Give Us Money' presentation of Orbison's Black and White Night on PBS

TCB band backing him up, Bruce and Elvis Costello and Tom Waits and kd lang and bonnie raitt just chilling on stage and you can't for a second take your eyes off the Big O.

Blows my mind that that beautiful voice comes out of him so seemingly effortlessly, it just goes there

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 April 2017 18:24 (six months ago) Permalink

Otm

Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 April 2017 18:55 (six months ago) Permalink

i haven't watched that show in a while, that's a good reminder to put it back in the queue.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 23 April 2017 18:59 (six months ago) Permalink

it's so good

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 April 2017 19:10 (six months ago) Permalink

Something good in a similar vain is the one Dave Edmunds did with Carl Perkins.

Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 April 2017 19:26 (six months ago) Permalink

wow never seen that. i'll def have to check that out

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 April 2017 19:52 (six months ago) Permalink

Got my favorite guitar duel of all time, on Pretty Woman, with Springsteen knowing better and just sitting back and doing his basic box of blues, vs James Burton tearing it up.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 April 2017 21:51 (six months ago) Permalink

yes! i loved that

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 April 2017 21:52 (six months ago) Permalink

god those TCB guys are so tight

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 April 2017 21:52 (six months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Nice! I'm glad you put "Communication Breakdown" in there.

The Pickety Third Policeman (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 01:50 (six months ago) Permalink

Roy is magical imo

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 02:03 (six months ago) Permalink

VegemiteGrrl, you know what's magical?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5N9IHqqGcA

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 02:11 (six months ago) Permalink


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