Don't even try to defend Stevie Ray Vaughan, ILM -- tear his oeuvre/legacy apart and throw it to the dogs

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Annouschka (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

what's his legacy?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

I really don't like his music, and I especially don't like the swarms of Teenage Blondy McPentatonics he inspired.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:50 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, I can see on his face in videos of performances that he was very emotive when he played, and the way people react to his music makes me think I'm missing something, but I've heard MORE than enough records and played bass or drums or keyboards for FAR MORE than enough Stevie wannabes to put me off his music and legacy for eighty billion lifetimes.

Also, if I have the "Stevie Ray Vaughn's version of 'Little Wing' is SO MUCH BETTER than Jimi's" coversation one more time I'm gonna pull a Joe Pesci from Casino on somebody's fucking neck.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

what nza said, more or less.

Annouschka (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:54 (twenty years ago) link

his legacy = 1000000s of k-l@me pub bands everwhere live music is played in pubs. Clogging it up, b/c it's easy to listen to or something. Plus, 100000000000000s of articles in guitar magazines, telling you how to cop his style. These 2 things in no way connected of course. I'm sure he was a nice man....

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, he's surely responsible for giving the green light to hordes of soundalike, wah-pedal wielding Blues Hammer bands, and inspiring a much more generic sound than Jimi.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 7 November 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

The definition of soullessness.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:02 (twenty years ago) link

Assuming he had lived, how would he be regarded at this moment?

I'm guessing he would have gone down a Clapton trail, perhaps producing "Pilgrim"-ish hackwork that Rolling Stone would praise blindly.

That said, I really do enjoy "The Sky Is Crying" and he was a great player. But I haven't listened to that in years.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:06 (twenty years ago) link

Silly to complain about the bad players he inspired. E. Van Halen inspired far worse, and God knows I love me my (early) Van Halen. Granted, I never listen to SRV's music, but respect his zesty playing. The boot I have of rehearsals for Bowie's Serious Moonlight tour, before SRV himself got the boot, reveal him to be pretty versatile.

I have far more problems with Eric Clapton who, alas, is still very much alive. If Clapton is God, then God is very, very boring.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 November 2003 18:07 (twenty years ago) link

silly to complain abt them, unless you've actually had to sit through them, or worse still, do foh sound for them!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:11 (twenty years ago) link

though i grant you, a bad dylan soundalike is worse....

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:12 (twenty years ago) link

I liked it when yer man from The Icarus Line took his (fake) guitar out of the case at the Hard Rock Cafe, played about with it for a bit then ran down the street... I giggled like a schoolgirl when I read that. To be honest it's the only reason I clicked on this, I couldn't give a fuck about the guy either way...

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:13 (twenty years ago) link

stevie ray is a textbook case of how technique don't mean nuttin if there's nothing interesting to express whatsoever.

jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:40 (twenty years ago) link

Just cause the masses latched onto him doesn't make him any worse than anyone else.

But then, who ARE we calling great "soulful/expressive" guitarists here??

Phil Dokes (sunny), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

i saw him on austin city limits once and he was really good.

scott seward, Friday, 7 November 2003 18:54 (twenty years ago) link

The best thing about Jimi Hendrix was all the weird sounds he made with his guitar, and Mitch/Noel's bonkers playing. Jimi was a pretty lousy singer, but Stevie's singing is just impossibly annoying. His band may or may not have been good, but they never really had the opportunity to do anything because Stevie was playing his overbearing rhythm/lead thing all the time. His bridge cable gauge strings caused him to bleed disgustingly all over everything, literally and figuratively. He's the blues version of GG Allin -- 100% hog, 100% ham.

Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:54 (twenty years ago) link

TS: clapton (post-yardbirds) vs. SRV

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:58 (twenty years ago) link

"bridge cable gauge strings" is really poetic. i like that. see,if it weren't for stevie ray vaughan i never would have seen those words put together like that.(i don't read guitar magazines)

scott seward, Friday, 7 November 2003 18:59 (twenty years ago) link

stevie ray's ennui inducing licks have nothing to do with "mass acceptance" -- there's plenty of technique fetishists (and i mean those who have technique over actual producing interesting music) in the underground too (see chicago).

jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

what gauge did he play? i like them heavy.

BTW: i don't think he's as bad as this thread makes him out to be.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

But then, who ARE we calling great "soulful/expressive" guitarists here??

Wes Montgomery??

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:02 (twenty years ago) link

greg ginn

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:02 (twenty years ago) link

i dont see a need to bash someone for falling head over heels in love with the guitar and kicking ass at it. the man played till his fingers bled, then krazy glued his fingers and kept playing. that's pretty fucking inspiring to me. i've seen lots of footage of him playing live and i never caught an "im an artist, take me seriously, spiritually" air from him at all. he just loved playing his guitar and wanted to make a living doing it.

Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

i saw barney kessel and herb ellis under a hotel in chicago once and they were great! that was my only experience with underground chicago.

scott seward, Friday, 7 November 2003 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

he just loved playing his guitar and wanted to make a living doing it.

He loved not wisely but too well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

i don't think chicago is underground at all, Peter Cetera had a huge hit on the Karate Kid 2 Sdtk.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

makes me glad I haven't heard this music.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:13 (twenty years ago) link

Kris' post is like the only one on this thread to really address Vaughan's music. I don't agree with him entirely - I think Vaughan sounds good when I'm in the mood, and still own his first two lps - but at least he laid out some valid criticisms, ones that I myself agree with when I'm not feeling charitable.

Everyone else is sort of poking at the phenomenon of the man himself, his "influence", etc. You know, the usual ILM spiel. Anyway, he's far from my favorite blues player. But he'd probably be somewhere in the lower reaches of a top 50. It's helpful to think of him as coming out of that lineage of great and yes, flashy, Texas electric blues players - guys like T-Bone Walker, Freddie King, Albert Collins. King and Collins in particular never being known for the economy of their playing.

But then you'd have to give a rat's ass about blues music to care.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

Mr. Diamond = the voice of reason.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

mr. diamond has just made me want to hear his music.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

SRV = background music for people who enjoy the Hard Rock Hotel unironically.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

Come to think of it, JOhnny Winter was from Texas too. So there was already a precedent for a white, flashy blues player from there. I'd probably have to take Winter over Vaughan, though; his playing on the records from Muddy Waters' Blue Sky period is really nice.

And really, speaking of contemporary players, Buddy Guy is just as bad as Vaughan in terms of over-playing, and I love him. But we probably wouldn't get a "defend Buddy Guy" thread on ILM. I actually would have been curious to see what Vaughan would have done - to see if he would have tried to challenge himself, maybe make a grimy, gut-bucket record like Guy's Sweet Tea release.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

I guess I just don't really have the patience for flashy blues players...to me it is about economy and feel and nastiness (in a good way).

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

SRV = Scales. Scales = Arithmetic. SRV = Arithmetic.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

Well, like I say, I am certainly not trying to claim him as one of my all-time favorite players. I'm just saying the uninformed criticisms on here don't convince me of anything.

Sure, I definitely like him best when he plays slower - check that extended cover of "Tin Pan Alley" - or in a more jazzy vein ("Stang's Swing" or "Lenny"). And I still enjoy his early self-penned hit "Cold Shot". It has a nice loping swing and a cleaner guitar tone; it wouldn't have sounded out of place on ZZ Top's best record, Deguello.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:49 (twenty years ago) link

his instrumental duet with dick dale on "wipeout" recorded for that frankie/annette comeback movie was utter dreck.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

(i don't read guitar magazines)

You're not missing much, Scott. Dozens of gear reviews in which nothing can ever be condemned. Dozens of write-ups of "guitar
bands" in which the writer struggles to say something wildly
enthusiastic about a collection of talking/singing turds who coincidentally play guitars because everyone between the age of 10 and 30 is now or will be in a rock band.

A couple features on the same ten stars -- half of whom must either
be dead or dieing -- over and over because the only thing that
reliably sells the mags are pics of Jimmy, Jimi, Stevie or Eddie
on the cover.

Transcriptions of popular hard rock and metal songs, complete with
how to set up your computerized axe widget, so you can sound
-exactly- like your idol except without the talent.

A few guest columns by celebrity or fringe-but-allegedly-hip
guitarists who cannot write so someone on the staff ghosts as
them.

Superciliousness appropriate to the subject and times = outlawry in guitar mags.


George Smith, Friday, 7 November 2003 20:10 (twenty years ago) link

I recall SRV being asked to do the national anthem at some big
stadium sports event. He showed up drunk and proceeded to
flabbergast and annoy everyone in attendance, which I thought
was very neat.

George Smith, Friday, 7 November 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

you're thinking of rosanne barr.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

Does Buck Dharma still do a column for one o' them guitar rags?

ugh, gygax! OTM. Also, I fucked up - Vaughan didn't actually right "Cold Shot", it was a cover.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

(x-post - gygax OTM about the "wipeout" cut, that is)

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

The thing about Vaughn is this: he was a very passionate player no doubt, and I definitely wouldnae say he played sans 'soul', but it's the blank-slate-ness of his style that bothers me a little. I like when I can recognize players by their style, when I hear Roland Kirk I can tell that it's Roland fucking KIRK, when I hear Buckethead I can tell that it's fucking BUCKETHEAD, when I hear Vaughn I hear trace elements of lotsa stuff but nothing really distinct.

I think he has a really strong singing voice though for sure, unfortunately in a singing style that I dislike 99% of. Growl grumbly growl.

Again, I probably would be more tolerant of this feller's music had I not had to perform the fucking DUNG DUNG DUNG DUNG DUNG DUNG DUNG infinity boring ass non-booty-shaking basslines for control-freak Stevie Ray Vaughnabees, so take whatever I say with like 8 grains of salt.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:28 (twenty years ago) link

mr. diamond OTM -- and since i'm not really a blues guy, i'll take a pass on this thread.

i liked his guitar-playing on bowie's let's dance -- esp. the opening for "modern love."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:28 (twenty years ago) link

yes! he did that bowie gig! his solo on (bowie's) china girl is really nice, though the intro is too much like the vapors to me.

he played guitar on james browns "living in america" although i can't place the guitar part from memory.

i hear plenty of soul clear as day in his playing. his talent (like shawn estes') was clearly affected by his alc.consumption but

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

but, you know, i bet he would have drilled clemens!

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:33 (twenty years ago) link

you're thinking of rosanne barr.

Nah, there were even pictures of him stumbling over his amplifiers.

George Smith, Friday, 7 November 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

Does Buck Dharma still do a column for one o' them guitar rags?

Nope. His run was short. They're all republished on his website.

George Smith, Friday, 7 November 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

Mr Diamond tell us, what do we have to inform ourselves of before we are allowed to criticise Steve Ray Vaughn? Do we have to bone up on the "lineage" of blues guitarists you say he springs from? I thought talking about "influence" was "the usual ILM spiel"?? If we're all so boring what the hell are you doing here?? And if you did claim him as one of your "all-time favorite players" what would that mean, as opposed to the current situation where he is not allowed that coveted honor?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:38 (twenty years ago) link

It's simple Patrick, I am a SRV fan. I think you dickheads have made some shitty comments about SRV for no real reason and insulted other SRV fans that posted here, so I want to fight. I enjoy this very much.

Teddy Cain, Thursday, 25 March 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link

Teddy Cain rhymes with Quiche Lorraine

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

did he get buried under your AMG reviews?

Now that would have been fun.

I want to fight. I enjoy this very much.

I'm quite sure you do, dear.

Teddy Cain rhymes with Quiche Lorraine

:-)

I'm off to lunch.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

SRV smoked many a fag

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

Quit changing the topic, You never answered my question Ned. Where are you from?

Teddy Cain, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

Ned's from america you fcking pinko commie bitch - QUIT SPITTING ON AMERICA! SRV LOVED AMERICA! WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

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I've gotta give it to you, those ARE cool links.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:02 (twenty years ago) link

maybe you should go to zilker park and stand guard in front of the statue.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

maybe his mom can give him a ride

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

Quiche Lorraine? French food?

"SRV" smoked many a fag"
Since you mentioned Quiche Lorraine, I'll assume your French and talking about cigarattes.

Teddy Cain, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

since your "name" is teddy i'll assume you beat off to pictures of malcom jamal warner

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:05 (twenty years ago) link

and i'm not french but i've done greek on your mom

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

That Yahoo profile answers my question.

Patrick (Patrick), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:07 (twenty years ago) link

I'm in America too, now shut the fuck up you little bitch.

This is funny!, I just picked that email at random. Don't believe me email the address, that poor kid will have no idea what your talking about. Come on you fucking idiot, do you think I would flame using my real email address? What a bunch of morons. here try the new one.

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Teddy Cain, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

Ned can't come to the phone right now, Ted. He's off à la recherche du temps perdu.

Palomino (Palomino), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

that means 'doing your moms butt'

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:10 (twenty years ago) link

Here try any of these:

cain@yahoo.com
teddy@yahoo.com

Teddys not my real name you dumb fuck.

cinniblount: you want to get envolved you little dicksucking bitch, bring your shit too pussy. My mother has been dead since I was 14 years old, so shut you fucking mouth you motherfuck

Teddy Cain, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:13 (twenty years ago) link

we still tappin ya moms ass cain! and STOP HATING AMERICA!

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

Can we go back to talking about how SRV sucks? More proof white people can't play the blues. motherfuck piss shit faggot bitch fucker!

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

we have been fed enough! take us out for the craPP please

dogs, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

Real Name: iLLiam


Wait, your real name is Liam, so for your tough on-line name you choose: Teddy?

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:16 (twenty years ago) link

malcom jamal warner? Who the fuck is that? Sice you brought him up, I'm sure your the jerking off to him.

For the last time Cinniblount you little nigger want-to-be, I am American. Shut your fucking mouth before I fuck you up. Where you from bitch.

Teddy Cain, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

I used to live in Austin and my friend and I seriously considered getting piss drunk and taking a whizz on that fucking statue. Probably would be hanging with Jose Padilla, if we had...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

there was some austin band i saw open for daniel johnston once - i can't remember their name - but at one point in a song they just slipped in the opening to 'little wing' the singer screamed out 'stevie!' and then they went back to rocking or whatever.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

teddy cain STOP HATING AMERICA YOU PINKO (and get your dead momma to buy you a faster response time you malcom jamal warner cumjockey slowpoke).

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

Teddy is a name that strikes fear everywhere. I'll bet his nickname is something really scary too, like "Flowers" or "Softy McDough"

by the way Teddy I live in Los Angeles with your mother, but you'll have to get past her first. She's a beast.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

scott seward, are you blind bitch? Thats a random email address, My name is Ted. Like Sewer Seward is any better bitch.

Teddy Cain, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck you Gear! You bitch-ass pussy LA Fag.

Fuck You cinniblount you nigger toe sucking pussy

Teddy Cain, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:21 (twenty years ago) link

Where is you faster response cinniblount you black cock suckin bitch boy

Teddy Cain, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:23 (twenty years ago) link

"nigger toe sucking"?

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:23 (twenty years ago) link

haha Teddy's future as a bitter racist janitor is well-mapped out.

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:24 (twenty years ago) link

http://home.planet.nl/~gbavinck/images/teddy.jpg

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:24 (twenty years ago) link

Fuckin right, that niggers callin me a Pinko.

Teddy Gear, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:25 (twenty years ago) link

Wow you actually search for that, you are a cleaver little motherfucker

Teddy Gygax, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

You are stupid, Teddy Gear.

snowballing, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/images/tr26.gif

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

Alright, I'm getting bored.

I have had my fun, sorry to all I offended. Fuck you SRV

See you guys some other time.

Teddy Fuck you, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

haha - the SRV fan hates black people but likes white people who steal their music...

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

For the record, I don't hate black people, I hate nigger white boys.

Teddy Ass, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:30 (twenty years ago) link

riiiiight.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

Like cinniblount and you, Shakey Mo.

Teddy Shit, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

"I have lots of black friends."

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:32 (twenty years ago) link

Alright, guys get the last word. I just needed to vent my hate of you all, well out on you all.

Fuck you all and god bless my filthy mouth

Teddy's Done, Thursday, 25 March 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.spaceshipnofuture.org/pix/kingofblues.jpg

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 March 2004 20:28 (twenty years ago) link

FOR FUCK'S SAKE PEOPLE. You deserve the trolls you get.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 March 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

Hey Teddy, After reading the shit you said here, I think you might even hate this thread more than me. You might have went to far using the N-word though, thats the wrong way to feel if you truly appreciate the blues. But you did let it get a little out of hand (yes I'm guilty for some things I said as well)

I really don't give a shit about what other people think of SRV, like him or not, he achieved more success than most of them ever will.

It just pisses me off when you post a picture of something so disrespectful (Not saying you owe Stevie respect, but you don't have to piss on him) and boast about it like it was "A good time for me and my buddies, to pee on Stevie". I would not piss on any thing that was ever intended as a memorial. I am wondering though was that you in the picture? Well anyway the SRV fan club scrubs the statue twice a year, I'm sure there going to enjoy me emailing them this pic. I'll email it the Jimmie Vaughan webmaster and Beverly at tommyshannon.com as well. I'll send the your best regards fortunate hazel.

Srvgoogler, Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

I'm glad I went to lunch.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

no, that's not me in the picture. it's an austin band.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 March 2004 21:39 (twenty years ago) link

[img]http://www.imageshack.us/img2/9684/you.jpg[/img]

http://www.imageshack.us/img2/9684/you.jpg


Hmmmmmm how do you post pitures.

Darn, I am being total serious. This picture is of me that my mom took a few months ago and I am so mad you made fun of me like I am a geek Srvgoogler. Just who the heck do you think you are? I am a really cool dude when you get to know me.

Here are my stats for the girls out there
Newton
email: dreamingofsomeonespecial@home.com
5'9
127lbs
4.78inch Penis(erected)
I am a Gemini and I work on computers for my job.
(ps thats actually a rash on my face not acne, I swear)

Newton Poindexter, Thursday, 25 March 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago) link

Okay, that's it.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 March 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago) link


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