Mary J. Blige: Classic or Dud?

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She's a diva, no question. "Real Love" is a CLASSIC song. She's gotten better as a singer, and she was pretty good to begin with. What I've heard, I've liked - even if the song itself ain't so great, that voice is like buttah on a hot biscuit. And the new single ("Family Affair") is superb - ah, that voice...

But what's up with the new video and her "dancing"? Divas shouldn't dance - they should preen and pose, wearing big furs and rings and stuff. And if a diva is going to dance, they should DANCE - none of that modified hokey-pokey stuff. It's like a new version of the Seinfeld dance - not lookin' too good.

So, where should I go? What should I do?

David Raposa, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

What you should do is start listening to Aretha's 60's Atlantic stuff. Like, immediately.

Sean, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Search the first four studio albums and the live 'un, which frickin' rocks. And do a special search, if you have any sort of interest in house music at all, for the video-only mix of "You Bring Me Joy," one of the fiercest fucking dance records of the '90s--and never released except as a video!

Destroy: the new one. It sucks.

M. Matos, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Blimey Sean I've never heard of this Aretha?! Hey, maybe David hasn't either and you can patronise him some more!

Search: the best Blige track I know is "Happy" which is aqueous, desperate and lovely.

Destroy: that comeback single a couple of years ago which went all RealClassicSoul on us and did a very poor job of it.

Tom, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

search: you're all I need w/ method man

why destroy anything by ms. blige? (i saw her on the street once with entourage, wearing tight jeans & stiletto heels, topped by a mink coat and a don't fuck with me sneer. ideal rock star material.)

fritz, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Have never been able to get over the fact that her name is an anagram of bilge. My loss, I'm sure.

Andrew L, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Tom, I wasn't patronizing David, sheesh! Come on, I Love Music, I really do, can't we all be friends?

Sean, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Only I am allowed to patronize and insult around here, buddy. Take your newfangled SF ways and pack 'em up, there ain't room for the two of us.

I saw Ben Vereen today, carrying a very tiny chihuahua, the smallest I ever saw. This has nothing to do with Mary J. Blige.

I like Mary well enough, if I hear her songs I enjoy them. But not enough to overly care or buy her albums. So I guess she's neither classic nor dud.

Ally, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ooops sorry, overreaction! But "go and listen to Aretha" is a bit glib for an answer to the question "What Mary J Blige is good?".

Tom, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Well, shit, I think I've heard as much Aretha as Mary, so I don't mind such a suggestion. But, please, ANSWER THE QUESTION AT HAND.

Unless you're Mik e. Then you can just post whatever the hell you want.

David Raposa, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Search: "Real Love" Mary wailing over that strange, fractured gospel beat still sounds jarring after so many years. Did Puffy produce that? Also "You're All I Need" w/ Method Man which is the best song ever. I like the new single, what's wrong with the album?

Kris, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

dud, yeah Ally

Loop, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I always liked Mary J cause she never gets all up her own arse with the arpeggios and vocal professionalism that plagues Whitney and Mariah like an exquisitely tailored straitjacket. I wasn't so into the last album before the new one, but I haven't heard it that much. The first two are great.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, she's got a great voice, not all pretentious and look at me, but her songs just aren't my bag at all. Give her some songs the quality of some other less-vocally-talented show offs and she'd be amazing.

Ally, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...
classic

()ops (()()ps), Friday, 29 April 2005 05:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yeah. "Not Gon' Cry" is still one of the greatest things ever.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

totally, unimpeachably classic.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Can she ever sing.

There was a great 70s style R&B ballad on one of her mid-90s solo records called "I'm Going Down". At least I think that's the title. One mindbending vocal performance.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Dud. She's got a good voice, I just can't stand the majority of her songs. I hate all her recent shit where's she's trying so hard to seem young, not that she's the only person ever to have been guilty of that. Her hair has always been so atrocious that it can't help but take away from her music. The Meth duet is great, though, as was the commercial with Michael Jordon where she sings "Overjoyed." But that just adds to the fact that her voice is a waste, since my two favorite MJB moments involve songs that aren't hers.

Roadkill Bingo (Roadkill Bingo), Friday, 29 April 2005 19:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

xpost I'm Going Down is great.
Search: The meth and Ghostface collabs obv., the album 'My Life'

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 29 April 2005 19:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

[[[Search: "Real Love" Mary wailing over that strange, fractured gospel beat still sounds jarring after so many years. Did Puffy produce that?]]]

Actually, I think this skirts a long hibernating deabte about early 90's R&B riding the coat tails of Hip-Hop. Not that I'm saying I think this was the case, but certainly there was a sentiment within Hip-Hop that this was the case, and Real Love is prime example being the beat is from Audio Two's Top Billin'.

PappaWheelie, Friday, 29 April 2005 20:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

She certainly rides hip-hop coattails. Doesn't she call herself "The Queen of Hip-Hop Soul"? All her stuff from the "What's the 411?" era is hugely hip-hop influenced, and jacks some of the better 80s samples. Still, these are great records. Her unreleased remix with Smif-N-Wessun (later the Cocoa Brovaz) of "I Love You" is super-dope. It takes the "Make The Music With Your Mouth Biz" pianoline just rips.

burna, Friday, 29 April 2005 20:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

totally, unimpeachably classic.

Okay, this is just not true; remember the "I'm-on-crack-and-can't-actually-find-the-pitch" era? (This is also the only explanation I can think of for that frightmarish piece of nonsense that sampled "Benny And The Jets".)

"Real Love", "Be Happy" and "Not Gon' Cry" are enormously awesome, so she is classic, but unimpeachably???

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 29 April 2005 20:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh you

()ops (()()ps), Sunday, 1 May 2005 04:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
love the new single!

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
The new album is really awesome.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 24 December 2005 05:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Any love for Mike Doughty's folk-soul cover of "Real Love"? Or the WTF cover of Stevie Wonder's "As" that Mary herself did with George Michael a few years ago?

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 24 December 2005 05:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

OH GOD c lassic. is there a better sex jam than 'mary jane'? (fuck you ilm that was a rhetorical question) or really just a better song in general, no, i dont think so

and yes, you could drop 'you bring me joy' in any funky/vocal house set and not only would it fit, it'd be BETTER than anything else in aforementioned set!!!!!!!1

hivsdh, Saturday, 24 December 2005 08:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
The Breakthrough really deserves more attention on here. It's like the best R&B album I've heard in eons.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 23:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've only heard the single but it is OH SO GOOD.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 12 January 2006 01:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

And sounds really nice with the new Toni Braxton song they've been playing ("Take this Ring," Al was pimping it awhile back)

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 12 January 2006 01:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

She has a good voice, but she's corny as hell, and gives in to industry pressure (dumb producers and guest MCs). I'd suggest Anthony Hamilton's new one, for an amzing new r 'n b album.

paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 12 January 2006 02:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

New album is CLASSIC. haha. I'm only 5 tracks in to be honest but yeah. Wooooh this is good.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 12 January 2006 07:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I like Mary, but I really hate that single. I was only half listening when the video was playing and I thought it was an Ashanti song.

Candicissima (candicissima), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

She sounds fabulous on the new single although the song itself is, alas, paint-by-numbers R&B.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

album really really really falls off about ten tracks in (like all mary albums). before that it's ace tho.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

oh and candicissima OTM about ashanti. everytime it comes on hot 97 i think it's her. i still dig it tho.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

You don't like "Can't Get Enough"?

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Or I Found My Everything or... Be Happy or Give Me You or Let No Man Put Asunder?

Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Do any of these rock like Family Affair?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i'm okay with "can't get enough." part of it is that "mjb da mvp" is one of my favorite songs ever and the "one" cover is the worst thing i have ever heard. so in between those i hear a blur.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 12 January 2006 18:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

She's too mature now (that album she did with Puffy from 2 or 3 years ago was good, though, especially the Jay Z intro and the track where she sang over "i got to have it" by Ed O.G) but back in teh day..

Who else was getting Grand Puba, Kid Capri, C.L Smooth, Biggie and Smif 'N' Wessun on tracks ?

JE$$ICA HARVELL, Thursday, 12 January 2006 18:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Still good.

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 16 January 2006 01:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I like it fine, but that duet with Bono on "One" is Superbowl-nauseating.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 16 January 2006 05:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

the acapella of the new single is astonishingly great, and i love the track on the new album about never having had a father. a great singer, and her albums are very strong too. i also like the way she writes herself into her own songs. 'all that i can say' is one of my favourite ever songs.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Monday, 16 January 2006 11:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

'dont go' makes me cry every time, actually i nearly cry just looking at the name of the mp3 in explorer and avoid clicking it just so that i dont have to cry again. recently ive been relistening to 'not today' ft eve, from the excellent barbershop 2 soundtrack - eve looks fantastic in the video with those chanel sunglasses on - mary looks great too & thats saying something sitting there in the car right next to eve! its a good team up, good scathing tone from both of them. mary j is classic of course but i guess sometimes her grief songs verge on something primal that i find difficult to deal with!

navy, Monday, 16 January 2006 12:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

that new MJB MVP track over the 50 cent beat is horrendous. but not as horrendous as i had hoped. shouldnt she be past the age-old singing over hip hop loops trick by now? shes almost 40 for gods sake.

okok, Monday, 16 January 2006 18:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"hip hop loops trick"

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 01:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Blige is 34. What's the cutoff age? When you're 24 -- i.e., almost 30? Obviously it's not 14 -- i.e., almost 20.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 01:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

AARP members may not use that hip-hop loops trick.

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 01:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

no mary jane (all night long) no credibility

millenarian (millenarian), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 06:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

no 'all that i can say' = not worth owning

i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 14:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

and no "I Love You," no "Love @ 1st Sight," no "I'm Goin' Down" (= my three favorite Mary singles besides "Real Love") and what the fuck is this "My Life 2006" shit. really, though, even if it was a perfect best-of drawn from her albums you'd still have to burn a disc of hooks she sang on hip hop records to get the full picture.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 14:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

mary j blige is so classic that i would really really worry on a very fundamental, are-you-a-real-person level about anyone who claims to be unmoved by her voice.

the tracklisting of this greatest hits = DUD

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sweet Thing, Reminisce, You Remind Me, All That I Can Say, Ooh...

They shouldn't've included anything from The Breakthrough and maybe even Love and Life -- you can't represent all seven albums on one disc.

Take Me as I Am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

They shouldn't've included anything from The Breakthrough

be without you!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

King And Queen Duet - Blige, Mary J. & John Legend

Dear god, wtf is that thing?

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Lex, I am not saying The Breakthrough and Love and Life don't have anything worthy of a best-of -- I am saying the disc is attempting to cover too much ground.

Pamplaxico Polancobon (Andy_K), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bah

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah but "Be Without You" is too big of a hit to not include, it'd be like leaving out "Real Love" or "Family Affair." is there anything off Love & Life on there, too? didn't really have any big hits anyway.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

too = though

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah but "Be Without You" is too big of a hit to not include

I realize that. I do think it would've made more sense -- for the sake of doing her discography justice, at least -- for this disc to be a volume one, covering the albums through No More Drama. Less room for error, fewer crazy omissions (but of course that would've been messed up as well).

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

No, nothing off Love and Life -- her worst album but hardly a disaster.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

I've kind of resigned myself to the idea that any long-running artist with a healthy catalog of hits is usually going to end up with multiple best-of's, and the first will usually be a single disc that omits a lot of great old stuff to make room for new singles to make it more saleable, if the artist is still making music when it comes out. and it might not be until after their career's over that you get a really solid double-disc GH. they just never seem to get it right the first time.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

I count over 20 top 20 R&B singles alone -- and a few peaked IN the 20s as well. There's no way you can cover all the good stuff on one disc without leaving out a few things.

It looks like you could POSSIBLY squeeze her top 20 R&B singles through No More Drama on one disc.

xpost

Very, very true.

Plus we're seeing more and more best-ofs released within six-nine months of the last album.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

xpost
she is a case of the emperor's new clothes when it comes to singing, isn't she? i find it somewhat comical that u2 did really thought that it was some kind of honour or even a good idea to do that 'one' remake with her - she's really not very good on it. her voice is shallow and going nowhere, and her trying to force it anyway doesn't help. but somehow, her often great beats and personal story of suffering has propelled he into near-iconic status. i find that it is - wrong.

Janus Køster-Rasmussen (Vesterbrunch), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

%did

Janus Køster-Rasmussen (Vesterbrunch), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

her voice is shallow and going nowhere

RODNEY HAVE TOO MANY EMOTHINS!!! (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 10:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

her voice is shallow and going nowhere
-- RODNEY HAVE TOO MANY EMOTHINS!!! (rodneyjgreen...), Wednesday 10:00 AM. (later)

Seriously, what the fuck?

Funny that the first response to this thread was essentially "Get one Aretha" - I keep thinking that there'll be a time when Blige gets the same kind of classic status.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

"shallow" is a really odd way to describe someone's voice (I don't fully understand), but I do find her constant self-examinations and self-absorption increasingly irritating (where I once thought this was largely what made her interesting). I don't know--a certain piousness or something has been creeping into her voice of late, and her recent singles in paricular (post-"Family Affair") have been really hard to listen to. I cringe at the part in "take me as I am" where she explains that the subject of the song is really her--like she needed to point that out to us (because, you know, it's not like any of her other songs have been all about MARY).

s w00ds (sw00ds), Friday, 24 November 2006 00:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

This is like the most joyous MJB song ever.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, this is great!

Jordan, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

between this and the track w/ Chaka .... :D

deej, Thursday, 27 September 2007 19:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Why are we just getting all the summer jams now?

The Reverend, Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Second single, in the new iTunes promos:

http://www.zshare.net/audio/5030291acb48d6/

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 12:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

classic but i never really liked any of her albums after my life. and the recent ones seem worse when shes trying to show she can do the same sort of stuff as her younger peers. that said, there was one disco-y song on the last one that had some good house remixes for it (better than the album version) but the original was pretty average. i just think she needs better songs.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 9 July 2009 09:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Her new albums are as uneven as they ever were, but The-Dream/Ne-Yo stuff on Growing Pains is a very nice fit.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2009 12:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

i like how every new album has her saying how this time, shes *really* happy. sometimes it works as w/'just fine', where despite trying to make a joyous (if slightly hollow, not all that amazing) song, the usual sadness in her voice takes it somewhere slightly diff, but shes better singing sad, slightly tortured ish imo. ill still take whats the 411 over anything else shes done.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 9 July 2009 14:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Til the Morning" is my jam off the last one. That "Bounce, Rock, Rollerskate" shit

Sarges B. Mackin! (The Reverend), Friday, 10 July 2009 00:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

i like how every new album has her saying how this time, shes *really* happy. sometimes it works as w/'just fine', where despite trying to make a joyous (if slightly hollow, not all that amazing) song, the usual sadness in her voice takes it somewhere slightly diff, but shes better singing sad, slightly tortured ish imo. ill still take whats the 411 over anything else shes done.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, July 9, 2009 10:05 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha seriously. I'm going to write a Mary J. song called "I Want To Be Happy, But I Am Sad And Wish I Was Happier, But Wait, Now I Am Finally Happy (Let's See How Long It Lasts)"

hop up out the shed, turn my scag on (some dude), Friday, 10 July 2009 04:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha. selfishly, i dont want her to ever be happy (sorry mary). i think getting back with k-ci could be the best thing for her music (not that i want her to get beaten or anything tho).

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 10 July 2009 11:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

eesh

otmato (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

mr wrong

surm, Friday, 28 October 2011 01:51 (five years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Anyone own the new one?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 January 2012 02:51 (five years ago) Permalink

yes, there are some great songs on it, it's much better than her last one. otoh it's not a great album qua album, not just cuz it's overlong (which you could have guessed) but because MJB doesn't commit to or appear to care about any particular aesthetic.

"no condition" and "empty prayers" are both absolutely brilliant though. "mr wrong" is an incredible single, drake aside.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 09:05 (five years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

she really gave the songs on the new album the most generic self-affirmation titles possible for her best songwriting since 2005

lex pretend, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:01 (two months ago) Permalink

best album since then too

kind of like she wants to really probe the essence of what these clichés mean?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:01 (two months ago) Permalink

A rockcrit friend said the same thing. I still prefer Growing Pains and I iked about half of The London Sessions.

I'm quite taken with the Sullivan cowrites and the title track.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

this is SO MY SHIT RN

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 21:30 (two months ago) Permalink

The Jazmin Sullivan co-writes and the DJ Camper productions (he and Sullivan work together on some of these) really sound great

curmudgeon, Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:57 (two months ago) Permalink

Sullivan was the lead writer for these four songs on Mary J. Blige's album "Strength of a Woman," and sang backup vocals on the first three of them: "Thick of It," "Set Me Free," "Glow Up," and "Thank You."

curmudgeon, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:03 (two months ago) Permalink

I wonder if any of these cuts are going from the Billboard Adult RnB chart to any of the other r'n'b or pop ones?

curmudgeon, Monday, 15 May 2017 13:54 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.billboard.com/artist/309851/mary-j-blige/chart?page=1&f=379

"I am" in 2010 I think was her last song to cross over to the top 100. "Thick of It" from the new one was top of the adult R'n'b chart and hit 12th on the r'n'b songs chart.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 15:34 (two months ago) Permalink

i heard "thick of it" on the mainstream r&b station once or twice but obviously not enough. the adult r&b station played it a ton tho. mainstream and adult airplay are combined for the r&b/hip-hop airplay chart, where it peaked at #5.

dyl, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 15:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Saw her live tonight. She did a powerful take on "No More Drama"-- was really testifyin.' "Thick of It" and a few others from the new one also sounded strong. On some older cuts she let the mostly female crowd sing many of the verses. Her 3 women backing singers and the band were good as well.

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 May 2017 03:47 (two months ago) Permalink

1 costume change and lots of talk about self-affirmation and relationships (it came across sincere)in the hour and a half gig

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 May 2017 14:08 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I like the new one better than the London one, but haven't listened to the latter in a bit.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 June 2017 03:45 (one month ago) Permalink


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