Who do the British seemingly hate Q Magazine?

Cut the dose, Marcello!

-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), Today. (later) (link) (admin) (userip)

It's only fair to point out that the "Geir" post quoted above was not actually posted by Geir at all.

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), March 18th, 2005.

Wasn't that the original raison d'etre of Q, i.e a British version of Rolling Stone. Obviously didn't last long.

those guys DO NOT GET, or are at least uncomfortable, with American hip-hop

But their interpretation of hip-hop is just as valid as an American's take on brit-pop. Just becaused it seems 'wrong' to someone steeped in the culture doesn't mean they don't get it or it's wrong per-se.

and frankly, Brit-pop and its variants seem to be easily grasped by Americans, since the genre is based on '60s British rock and pop, which is essentially music that never went away and was emphasized as the common currency —the signal achievement of western culture, rockism, etc etc—in both countries and all over the world. lots and lots of crits I know are very hung up on brit-pop.

But that's not to say it's impossible. Knickerbockers did some wonderful stuff in the mid 60s in mock British accent, while The Records' 70s powerpop sounded just as right with their mock American accents.

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I'm banning Marcello cos firstly because I was pretty sickened by the chest-thumping and general foul behaviour on the hip-hop thread. I fucking hated this and am guilty for just discovering the general unpleasantness therein (two people alerted me). Other people may have been stirring the shit and I'll be checking them out too.

Also, and just as importantly, I'm sick of him nitpicking blissblogger. What the fuck is your problem with Simon Marcello? Grow up. What it boils down to is this. If I'm going to have a forum in which either Reynolds or Carlin are going to feel comfortable, then it's a fucking no-brainer.

Banning people who don't match his quasi-intelligent musings on pop is just one step away from ethnic cleansing, no?

more insanity from Q magazine, some right turkeys in this list. Q magazine have just set the benchmark for the worst end of year list of 2009.

via
http://www.soundopinions.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22173

Q Top 50 Albums 2009:

50) Further Complications - Jarvis Cocker
49) Together Through Life - Bob Dylan
48) My Way - Ian Brown
47) The Liberty of Norton Folgate - Madness
46) True Romance - Golden Silvers
45) Outer South - Conor Oberst and The Mystic Valley Band
44) Which Bitch? - The View
43) Imidiwan: Companions - Tinariwen
42) Mariachi El Bronx - Mariachi El Bronx
41) Two Dancers - Wild Beasts
40) 3 Words - Cheryl Cole
39) Primary Colours - The Horrors
38) Truelove's Gutter - Richard Hawley
37) Tarot Sport - Fuck Buttons
36) The Eternal - Sonic Youth
35) Backspacer - Pearl Jam
34) To Lose My Life... - White Lies
33) Bitte Orca - Dirty Projectors
32) Sunny Side Up - Paolo Nutini
31) Only Revelations - Biffy Clyro
30) La Roux - La Roux
29) Wilco (The Album) - Wilco
28) Working On A Dream - Bruce Springsteen
27) Horehound - Dead Weather
26) Two Suns - Bat For Lashes
25) The First Day of Spring - Noah and The Whale
24) The Ecstatic - Mos Def
23) Invaders May Die - The Prodigy
22) Oh My God, Charlie Darwin - The Low Anthem
21) Kings and Queens - Jamie T
20) Fever Ray - Fever Ray
19) Monsters of Folk - Monsters of Folk
18) The Boy Who Knew Too Much - Mika
17) 21st Century Breakdown - Green Day
16) Walking On A Dream - Empire of The Sun
15) Tongue N' Cheek - Dizzee Rascal
14) What Will Be - Devendra Banhart
13) Veckatimeist - Grizzly Bear
12) Everything Is New - Jack Penate
11) Kingdom of Rust - Doves
10) Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix - Phoenix
09) No Line On The Horizon - U2
08) It's Not Me, It's You - Lily Allen
07) The Resistance - Muse
06) Humbug - Arctic Monkeys
05) Journal For Plague Lovers - Manic Street Preachers
04) Merriweather Post Pavillion - Animal Collective
03) It's Blitz! - Yeah Yeah Yeahs
02) Lungs - Florence and The Machine
01) West Ryder Pauper Lunatic Asylum - Kasabian

lol, all lists are terrible - at least they get people to pay for theirs

23) Invaders May Die - The Prodigy

Make a Song Title More Reasonable

What an awful, awful winner.

i gets worse...

Kasabian luv in at the NME this week
http://www.nme.com/magazine

that Krissi Murison has shifted NME even closer to the Q mainstream

rewind...it gets worse

40) 3 Words - Cheryl Cole

How the hell did this get in there? And nine places above Dylan?!

no idea, however there is evidence in that Q list that Q writers are clearly tone deaf

huh, aren't there 2009 albums that haven't had their promos distributed yet? Being a few months early with decade lists is kinda understandable, but this...

also, Mika has a new album? Who knew. Is it a major flop or have I just successfully blocked him out?

also, Mika has a new album? Who knew. Is it a major flop or have I just successfully blocked him out?

you obviously don't read Britain's most read music mag - OMM, as Mika was on their front cover a few months back

Martian's been limbering up for this moment for the last couple of months, like Gary Neville on the Anfield touchline.

i honestly had no idea that half of that list were even still making music, let alone releasing albums this year.

cheryl cole, wtf.

Q magazine is so establishment / mainstream, most 2009 mainstream albums have been released, and the ones yet to be released seem rather ordinary

upcoming mainstream releases
http://www.albumvote.co.uk/albums/prerel.aspx

He's also glossed over that band Salem he's been bumming for weeks getting listed on the NME cover there xxp

i gets worse...

actual lol

He's also glossed over that band Salem he's been bumming for weeks getting listed on the NME cover there xxp

Also actual lol.

Wow wow wow wow. I've subjected myself to that Kasabian album twice and cannot imagine a world anywhere ever where it could be considered the "best" of anything.

I believe that all music should be based on the Horst Wessel Song.

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), March 18th, 2005.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:41 (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sure, white people have made a lot of interesting music. Black people too, although not too much after hip-hop started dominating. Stevie Wonder, Earth Wind & Fire and Lionel Richie have all made lots of great music with lots of melodic and harmonic qualities.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:43 (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Do you think Streicher got a bum deal at Nuremberg, then?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 6 October 2006 11:45 (4 years ago) Bookm

Was this ever a question that needed answering? Q was awful back then, and it's probably worse now.

(Although there was a period in the 90's when it wasn't so bad, I suppose)

Still not sure that Geir ≠ Marcello. Though lately I've been wondering if Geir = another (fav) ILXor. I am prone to looking for patterns, though.

MC's Geir sock was too strident, he could never get the unflustered tone right

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSEoszUXIAADi9W.jpg

The Soft Bulletin on the cover i note. 2/5 they gave that, first time round. Blue Lines getting pride of place as usual. wasn't even in their Top 50 *of that year* when it came out.

it's almost as if stuff has to hang around for a few years before it gets to be in the middlebrow canon

Rod Stewart's Ultimate Guide To Life? Guy Garvey Solo LP

I had that edition as a kid, and remember the list well.

you had this edition? easy to think that looking at it, but it isn't out til Tuesday!

For my sins I did buy Q fairly frequently when I was a callow youth, until I got wise to the fact that those "Top 100" lists they are always running are pure empty page filler. For such a chunky mag it was often surprisingly short on content, you could get through the meat of it in about an hour and were left with a nagging feeling you'd wasted your money.

The bigger problem has always been how it continues to reinforce an extremely conservative rock/pop orthodoxy, never challenging received opinions and always dishing out five stars to the same canonical big names. I guess that's the answer to how it keeps selling, it's like comfort reading for people who have a passing interest in music but aren't really interested in anything they don't already listen to.

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/bauer-reveals-plans-to-close-merge-or-sell-ten-magazines-q-planet-rock-simply-you/

Magazine publisher Bauer Media plans to close, merge or sell ten of its print titles it says will not be sustainable once the Covid-19 crisis is over.

The titles affected are: music magazines Q and Planet Rock, car brands Modern Classics and Car Mechanics, “true-life” title Simply You, Mother and Baby, Golf World, Practical Photography, Sea Angler and Your Horse.

Bauer said for each of these titles it is currently looking at whether to move them to a digital-only format, merge them with sister titles, sell them, or close them altogether.

rip big man, heaven needed a magazine i assumed had stopped production at least a decade ago

Claiming Sea Angler and Your Horse for the name of my terrible new band.

I'd be surprised if some other publisher didn't step in and buy Q tbh. But who will save poor old Sea Angler?