let it be...naked?

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has anyone heard this yet? I'm looking forward to it, i think it's out soon.

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Sunday, 2 November 2003 23:45 (sixteen years ago) link

eh?

jed (jed_e_3), Monday, 3 November 2003 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link

The un-Spector-ised version of the Beatles 'let it be'

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Monday, 3 November 2003 00:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Considering they've kept it sealed for 33 years, I'd be surprised to hear that it's leaked yet.

Jonathan (Jonathan), Monday, 3 November 2003 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/13/entertainment/main573125.shtml


prepare to be surprised. Not leaked but officially released.

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Monday, 3 November 2003 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link

This one and Rubber Soul were the only ones I could be bothered with. Now I guess it's down to Rubber Soul unless some genius wants to take the harpsichord off it or something

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 3 November 2003 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Along with the embarassing title, it's got really shite cover art to match it. Witness:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000DJZA5.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 3 November 2003 01:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Now I guess it's down to Rubber Soul unless some genius wants to take the harpsichord off it or something

Actually, a Rubber Soul without the extreme stereo seperation might be nice. There's no center on that album. It's all hard right and hard left. Through headphones, it's almost painful.

JJ Walker, Monday, 3 November 2003 01:27 (sixteen years ago) link

just hit the "mono" button on yr stereo: works for me!

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 3 November 2003 01:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I kinda like that extreme stereo separation thing, although I don't understand how you could put something like a kickdrum only in one channel. One of the few redeeming features of Metallica's Load was that Kirk's guitar was always hard-left, and James's hard-right. It made it easier to transcribe, that's for sure.

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 3 November 2003 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link

As the guy who's perhaps ILx's biggest Beatle fan, I have to grieve at what a gyp McCartney, Starr et al. have foisted on the world. Like I'm supposed to get excited about a short album of material, much of which has been already been released in some form or another...and ooooh, a twenty-minute bonus disc. The largesse makes me want to faint -- IT'S LIKE FUCKIN CHRISTMAS, MAN.

AFAICS, the bootleggers have released complete Let It Be sessions. An arbitrary selection of stuff I've heard from it makes has been by turns interminable, surprising, ramshackle, shockingly good. How can Naked possibly compare to that?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 3 November 2003 03:34 (sixteen years ago) link

If you don't like the stereo separation, you can always get a mono copy of the album. (Mono buttons are kind of rare these days.)

dlp9001, Monday, 3 November 2003 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link

You haven't heard Rubber Soul (or Sgt. Pepper's and evolver for that matter) until you've heard it in mono.

Mister Snrub (MisterSnrub), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Evolver, the latest in fucked up Beatles reissues!

Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Gah! That's the worst typo I've ever made.

If I ever get a record contract, remind me to name my album evolver.

Mister Snrub (MisterSnrub), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:22 (sixteen years ago) link

The ex-Replacements ought to hire Phil Spector to remix their Let It Be, just to be fair.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link

ditto Laibach

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 3 November 2003 06:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Notice how that Shinola salesman waited til George was passed to dare to do this? John and George never complained about the production, did they? McFartney is doing everything he can to revise his-story. McCartney and Lennon this, you old hack. I used to really love his stuff. Wings etc... but when he sang "Freedom" twice at the Concert for NY I finally realized that he has become everything that his detractors ever said he was.

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Monday, 3 November 2003 07:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, a Rubber Soul without the extreme stereo seperation might be nice.

Hahahaha - I'm always having this conversation with my girlfriend!

Ou local pub has a jukebox with one speaker copmpletely removed from the other, so you either get vocals & tambourine, or music with a tiny bit of delayed vocal reverb. It reminds me of when I was a kid: we had a stereo 'radiogram' & only one speaker worked (thanks to my prank with a toasting fork). I saved up my Boots' vouchers & bought the Red Album (btw, do you remember those wild Boots carrier bags, with a guitarist on one side & a conductor on the other - both in duotone lilac & purple & a claim that 'this bag will decompose harmlesly when buried in soil...). Anyway, back to the point; I only heard half of the album until I got my first stereo for my 15th birthday.

Jez (Jez), Monday, 3 November 2003 09:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahahaha - I'm always having this conversation with my girlfriend!

Please clone and distribute.

Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 3 November 2003 09:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Re 'stereo separation', that's what fucks up the DLR-era Van Halen albums too

dave q, Monday, 3 November 2003 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Notice how that Shinola salesman waited til George was passed to dare to do this?

Nah, this was actually well in the works by the time George passed away. Thanks to all the past litigation and subsequent hatred between all parties, it takes years and years of legalistic hashing out before any Beatle release sees the light of day.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 3 November 2003 11:28 (sixteen years ago) link

If I ever get a record contract, remind me to name my album evolver.

The Grid already did that, remember?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 3 November 2003 12:01 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, something called "let it be...naked" leaked this weekend. The sound quality is terrible; possibly a cassette dub? Anyway, tracklisting matches up, and the versions are certainly different (for the most part, Get Back sounds pretty much the same). Is this a fake or the real thing? And if it's real, why go to all the trouble to release it?

dleone (dleone), Monday, 3 November 2003 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
It's out. Who are the other suckers who paid for it?

As much as I hate to agree with Pitchfork, their review today was pretty OTM. It does sound fantastic, and most of these takes are excellent. But I'm so used to the little dialogue snippets that I don't think it will ever replace LIB as the default version I throw on (honestly though I haven't listened to LIB in probably a year and a half) and I still wish some kind of Dig It version had made it on here. The biggest improvements are on the McCartney sap-fests Long and Winding Road and Let it Be.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 20 November 2003 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Mono sucks btw.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 20 November 2003 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

the cover art and packaging is spectacular crap

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 20 November 2003 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Whaaat!? Back To Mono! All Phil-hataz line up to be shot!

(I don't care about this release, though.)

Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Thursday, 20 November 2003 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Three years ago, a friend of mine was killed in a car accident. One of his favorite albums was Let It Be.

The funeral was held in this big auditorium inside the funeral home itself. He was a young guy, so there were all sorts of older relatives milling around before the service. There even seemed to be a pew reserved for his ex-girlfriends. On the sound system, there were some CDs playing on shuffle.

There got to be a point where finally everyone was sitting there quietly with the music still on. The player found "Let It Be" and hearing John do his old granny voice ("this one is for George P. Woods called 'All the Angels Come'..." or whatver) made me laugh for the first time in a few days.

I liked the patter. They should've found that ten minute version of "Dig It" to put on there, too.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 21 November 2003 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link

The Grid? Dave Ball? Which Grid? Tuomas

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 22 November 2003 08:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Mono sucks btw.

Another in a series of completely weird, random, and indefensibe Geir credos.

A lot of music from the 60's is truly better in mono, since producers had mastered one-channel dynamics, and reserved two-channel dynamics for only the wankiest, most laughable of effects. Usually the "effects" amount to some guy in a studio turning a knob this way and then that. Unlike modern stereo mixing, it has no relation to the human ear whatsoever.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 22 November 2003 08:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Mono sucks btw.

Then quit kissing people indiscriminately

nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 22 November 2003 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link

If I ever get a record contract, remind me to name my album evolver.

311's last album! i heard it its good but yah it sucks at the same time. ::shrug:: what ya guna do? everyone knows paul is trying to rewrite history so its obv not guna work. so evil. yoko says like 3 things about it here:

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Saturday, 22 November 2003 10:24 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/53/music-rense.php

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Saturday, 22 November 2003 10:28 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Why all the Macca-hating? I mean, he was right. The album
was overproduced, and Allen Klein DID screw them over.
Let's not forget the facts, kids.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 19 December 2003 23:19 (sixteen years ago) link

after a few weeks (not of constant listening, mind, but occasional listening), Let it Be Naked is a hundred thousand times more satisfying than the Spector job. Well done.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 19 December 2003 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I like it.

Jole, Saturday, 20 December 2003 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Whaaat!? Back To Mono! All Phil-hataz line up to be shot!

but not by Phil, right?

zappi (joni), Saturday, 20 December 2003 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link

michael ! tell us about the 'shockingly good' bits of bootleg
'let it be' out-takes you've heard. which bits do u recommend then ?

piscesboy, Saturday, 20 December 2003 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Off the top of my head, I'd especially recommend one version of "Don't Let the Sun Catch You Crying" that Macca sings solo -- it's a little ragged, but it's some of his best-ever R&B vocalizing.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 20 December 2003 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Next up: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band... Naked

Laura S., Saturday, 20 December 2003 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

havent heard it yet. i am turned off by the idea of it a bit though. i always liked the strings on "long and winding road". this seems like the culmination of the whole pop-->rock cannonization process in that some of the rhetoric around this album seems to center on finally rescuing the music from its more "pedestrian" aspects so that it can be reclaimed as an important piece of "rock literature" or whatever.

personality/character-wise, i dont know if i ever liked any of the beatles, but lennon is my least favorite songwriter in the group. i will try and hear it regardless. nb my favorite beatles/beatles related album is macca's "give my regards to broad street".

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Saturday, 20 December 2003 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

crappy title. this would have been a better cover:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Let_It_Be_Negative.jpg

veryloggedout, Friday, 28 December 2007 12:28 (twelve years ago) link

Or this:

http://www.beatlesource.com/bs/scans/acetates/apple/gb-lib1i.jpg

PappaWheelie V, Friday, 28 December 2007 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

Or something a bit similar to this:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1198/590050688_454a6dcf11_o.jpg

Geir Hongro, Friday, 28 December 2007 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

i recommend the 'get back' album that you can get on certain p2p networks and bootlegs. its apparently the version the engineer glyn johns made before the album turned into let it be. whether its cobbled together from all the various let it be sessions or the actual version johns made up (ie the takes he selected that would have made up the get back album had it come out), i dont know, but its good. some of the takes i wish didnt have certain bits of banter at the start or end, but it makes it seem nice and informal. which is probably the better option as the original material was pretty ragged to begin with. ill hear the naked version one day.

mr x, Saturday, 29 December 2007 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

There are two separate Glyn Johns mixes of it.

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 29 December 2007 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

hmm. and theyre both legit?

mr x, Saturday, 29 December 2007 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...

Beatles MANIA up in this bitch.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 13 September 2008 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

this release was such a disaster

akm, Saturday, 13 September 2008 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

twelve years pass...

Did we have a thread for the upcoming Peter Jackson Beatles reswizzle?

Anyway here's the book

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM__OJUFzIQ

piscesx, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:42 (one week ago) link

What about that stereo Pepper's done by George Martin's son? Heard about half of it, thought most of that was good ("Mr Kite" very show offy, but it's a song for an imaginary show, after all, sort of UK Ray Bradbury)

dow, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:50 (one week ago) link

this has to be the least-loved and most-forgotten 21st-century Beatles release, right? even the thought of listening to this roundtable is more appealing:

On 13 November 2003, the completed Let It Be... Naked album had its world premiere with a two-hour radio special from Infinity Broadcasting. The special featured (...) a 20-minute roundtable discussion hosted by Pat O'Brien. The roundtable discussion featured analysis from musicians Sheryl Crow, J.C. Chasez, Billy Joel and Fred Durst, Breakfast with the Beatles host Chris Carter, record producers Alan Parsons and Jimmy Iovine, music critic David Fricke and journalist Geraldo Rivera.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:20 (one week ago) link

xp Some of those remixes are decent yeah, his great thing is making the vocals sit where they 'should' be in the middle, but sometimes the whole 'everything but the kitchen sink' approach is a bit much.

Yeah '...naked' isn't even in the big box sets so.. it's like they are going to pretend it never happened.

piscesx, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:01 (one week ago) link

xpost For a second I thought that was something upcoming this November and was going "Why in the name of god is that allowed to exist."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:02 (one week ago) link

there's nothing that can really redeem these bros bringing their worst material to a room where they just stare at each other filled with malice/barely concealed racism for days on end while they pray for their lawyers to finish the busy work of letting them start solo careers

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:03 (one week ago) link

even as a 7 year old first looking through and listening to my parents vinyl collection i could tell this was shitty. i'll rep for I Me Mine and Long & Winding Road but thats about it.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:05 (one week ago) link

buncha glynn johns mixes here:

https://www.beatlesource.com/bs/mains/audio/GetBack/gb2intro.html

brimstead, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:17 (one week ago) link

Well it's their legacy now so they can arse around with it as much as they like IMO. If it's decent, i think i'll enjoy a good film maker's remixing of the
cleaned up footage. It'd be worth it for me, just to clap eyes on that performance of Two Of Us again. Hell even the recent remastered rooftop footage (on the 1+ Blu-Ray) looked amazing.

I mean i'm as cynical as the next fella but even i'd draw the line at all that 'malice and lawyers' talk.

piscesx, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:18 (one week ago) link

would like an all things must pass naked, hate the Phil Spector production on there

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:21 (one week ago) link

eh, its a long time since i've watched it to be fair, but i just remember the original LIB film taking away from a lot of what i liked about them "as a band" - ie my idea of The Batles... which sure is probably half mythologising anyway. there's just so little joy in the whole project. i don't know how anybody who's seen that film could think "Damn i need to see more of this!" .... its not as if they had a stock of magically joyful better performances hidden away that weren't used at the time?

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:23 (one week ago) link

yes i said The Batles.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:24 (one week ago) link

my understanding is that Jackson's intent with this footage is to dispel that impression made by the oroginal film—that the sessions were so miserable and depressing. The unseen footage from what I've read reveals that contrary to the conventional narrative the band still dug eachother and enjoyed playing together.

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:41 (one week ago) link

On 13 November 2003, the completed Let It Be... Naked album had its world premiere with a two-hour radio special from Infinity Broadcasting. The special featured (...) a 20-minute roundtable discussion hosted by Pat O'Brien. The roundtable discussion featured analysis from musicians Sheryl Crow, J.C. Chasez, Billy Joel and Fred Durst, Breakfast with the Beatles host Chris Carter, record producers Alan Parsons and Jimmy Iovine, music critic David Fricke and journalist Geraldo Rivera.
LOL, I actually listened to this special! Sheryl Crow (who went on about how she loved the bass sound and wanted to steal it) and David Fricke were definitely participants, and possible Parsons, but Billy Joel, Durst and Geraldo certainly were NOT, some wag threw those names in.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:50 (one week ago) link

But yeah the 2003 remix was virtually unnecessary. By 2003, the best, definitive versions of every track that SHOULD have been on that album were either on "Let It Be," "Past Masters Vol. 2" or the "Anthology" CD's, or at least used in the film itself (which to be fair, was never issued on DVD). It would've been nice to have them all in one place on an official CD, but they decided to mess around with it, hence the inferior new mixes.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 22:54 (one week ago) link

i finally got around to listening to this years after it came out and thought it was...fine, really. it's always been my least favorite beatles album but i found myself appreciating the songs more in this context -- just a straightforward album, no spector crap, none of the annoying chatter between songs, and they replaced the two throwaways with "don't let me down" which always belonged on this album anyway. i'd probably rather listen to it than the original album. that said i always kinda wished they had just released an album of the rooftop concert and left it at that.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 23:40 (one week ago) link

The track sequence on Let It Be...Naked is actually rock solid - it flows much better than Phil Spector's Let It Be and all three of Glyn Johns's rejected Get Back sequences. I agree that replacing complete throwaways like "Dig It" and "Maggie Mae" with "Don't Let Me Down" helps immensely, and I also agree with ditching Spector's orchestral and choral overdubs, I never bought the counter-argument that "The Long and Winding Road" needed those strings - that's like saying Mountain Dew needs more sugar.

What I don't like are the new edits and mixes because for the most part, those were already done right back in 1969 or 1970, and except for stripping Spector's orchestral and choral overdubs, all the noticeable changes made on Let It Be...Naked didn't improve any of the songs - quite the opposite. Losing the coda on "Get Back," picking an inferior take of "Don't Let Me Down," using the guitar solo on "Let It Be" that Harrison himself rejected (and twice re-recorded, with the best one picked for the single and the other Spector used for the album), etc.

I actually like the quiet and brief spoken word bits on Let It Be, the stuff that didn't get their own tracks and opened or followed most of the songs, because in total they did bring a welcome loose and casual atmosphere to the album rather than crossing the line into sloppiness.

birdistheword, Thursday, 17 September 2020 05:35 (one week ago) link


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