Boz Scaggs - C/D?

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Classic. The bassline to "Lowdown" alone.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Scaggs, i mean.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i have only heard lowdown but i love it so much. i was at the rec center at uni and an old sat night live was on tv and he came on to sign "lowdown" and i totally ran over to the tv to turn it up and everyone gave me dirty looks. classic.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

"Lido Shuffle" and "Lowdown" are two of the greatest "crossover" songs ever recorded in the 1970s.

The rest of Silk Degrees? Not so good.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

mostly i like him because its one of the first albums I remember my Dad playing. He came home with a new record player and Boz Scaggs, George Benson and Seals and Crofts. Never forget it. I loved Lowdown and Lido since. Also have a soft spot for (Love) Look What You've Done to Me.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

the only time i've ever even heard of boz skaggs was in a last plane to jakarta article...
he sounded interesting in it,but then everything sounds interesting in the context of a last plane to jakarta article

robin (robin), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

The rest of Silk Degrees is ALL good, I beg your pardon! So's Down Two Then Left. As far as I'm concerned Silk Degrees is the Loveless of its day. Earlier Boz much more blues-rock, and still good, but once he got the ultra-smooth thing going...mmm, if his lyrics were just a smidge better, he'd be as great as Steely Dan, and as it is he's a better singer than Fagen, which in my book is saying something

Search especially the Silk Degrees version of later-to-be-Anne-Murray's-signature-number "We're All Alone": the original is DEVASTATING

x-post: thank you Robin!

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

and he was part of the Steve Miller band. dunno if that's a plus or a minus

and who could resist this man?
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd800/d809/d80945w84g6.jpg

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic. As far as '70s smooth rock/soul it's as good as it gets. Hooky as all get out, great production, a lot of style, good lyrics. And you can find the vinyl for a buck, well, pretty much anywhere. Worth checking out are Slow Dancer, Silk Degrees, Down Two then Left, and Middle Man. For me, it's been an acquired taste, but one that rewards. Boz makes me feel nostalgic for something, I know not what.

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

In the same way Moz does, come to think of it.

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I once bought a used copy of his debut, which some regard as a high-water mark; I believe it has Duane Allman on it. I can't remember a note off it. Is he kind of like Robert Palmer backed by Steely Dan but with less interesting songs than either?

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I must be in the wrong room. Steely Dan makes me want to poke my eyes out. I don't see too much comparison.

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

If you don't see the similarity between the jazz-muso perfectionism and studio mastery of Silk Degrees and Steely Dan, then yeah you're in the wrong room.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

in my prog/pop youth
a new Boz album was cause
for celebration!

hearing 'jojo' or
'lido' on the stereo
makes me jump around

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I see the similarity in the production aesthetic, yes, but the difference is in the songs. I think a lot of "pop" bands in the '70s had a similar production aesthetic. Boz Scaggs reminds more of someone like Harry Hilsson.

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

That's "Nilsson" obv.

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link

dud.

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't know much about his music save his 3 hits, but I will tell you that the club he owns sucks (Slim's in SoMa, SF). He was also the inspiration for the first murder in Basic Instinct (club scenes filmed guess where: Slim's).

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Doesn't he own the Great American Music Hall too (or part-owner)? That's a fine venue, IMHO.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I will check out the minidisc Mooro did for me. He knows about these things.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Sean,

he might, i know it was sold relatively recently (and the booking has been really bad of late).

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link

The Steely Dan connection lies with some of the musicians used by The Dan and Boz in the '70s, especially the Porcaro brothers; in fact, I suppose you could blame Boz for Toto, considering that most of the original members in Toto played on Boz's late-'70s output.

And let's not forget the fact that he's had some kick-ass records since the early '90s...catchy songs that defy easy categorization, and the man sounds better than ever. But Beautiful, Some Change, Come On Home...and let's not forget one of the best production jobs in the 00's (especially on the DVD-Audio version) in Dig.

And Porcaro's drumline on "Lowdown" still kills me after all these years...just like his intro to "Rock With You." But this isn't a Porcaro thread, is it?

Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

And how many times can I use "let's not forget" in a post?

Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Aah, I forget.

Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link


skaggs owns slim's? those poles in the middle of the dance floor - dud. those bums who hang out on the stoop and offer to park your car - dud.

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002I9D.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

It's all about "Loan Me A Dime". Classic

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Boz's lyrics are vastly underrated

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

As long as their are used vinyl cheap bins and people who browse those bins Boz Scaggs' name will live... cuz he's in every single one of them.

Hildy, Thursday, 30 October 2003 00:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Baby's into running around
Hanging with the crowd
Putting your business in the street talking out loud
Saying you bought her this and that
And how much you done spent
I swear she must believe it's all heaven sent
Hey boy you better bring the chick around
To the sad truth the dirty lowdown

(Who I wonder who) taught her how to talk like that
(Who I wonder who) gave her that big idea

Nothing you can't handle nothing you ain't got
Put the money on the table and drive it off the lot
Turn on that ole lovelight and turn a maybe to a yes
Same old schoolboy game got you into this mess
Hey son better get back to town
Face the sad old truth the dirty lowdown

(Who I wonder who) put those ideas in your head
(Who I wonder who) yeah
Come on back down little son
Dig the low low low low lowdown

You ain't got to be so bad got to be so cold
This dog eat dog existence sure is getting old
Got to have a Jones for this Jones for that
This running with the Joneses boy
Just ain't where it's at
You gonna come back around
To the sad sad truth the dirty lowdown

(Who I wonder who) got you thinking like that boy
(Who I wonder who)
(Who I wonder who said who I wonder who)
Oh look out for that lowdown
That dirty dirty dirty dirty lowdown
(Who I wonder who ohh ohh)
Got you thinking like that

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

So...Silk Degrees vs the 1980 Hits? Quick!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link

well, I'd guess that Hits would be the one for you Alfred, just from what I know about your kinda radical pop-ism - you're not much of an album-as-form dude are ye? 'cause Silk Degrees is very much in the album/auteur mode - the sequence is immaculate, the transitions weightless, the flow from start to finish as smooth as ghee. It is one of my ten favorite albums of all time.

Hits:
1) has an appalling cover vs. SD's completely bitchin' & iconic cover, but
2) has "you make it so hard to say no," which is one of my favorite boz tunes, but
3) is otherwise kinda weird - where's the stuff from Down Two, which you're also gonna need?

I say Silk Degrees but you and I disagree so often that you might accordingly wanna zag here

J0hn D., Tuesday, 12 June 2007 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Silk Degrees all the way. I was just playing it yesterday. Among all the great stuff mentioned above, there's also a couple of curves, including the almighty blues-rockin' "Jump Street." Hits! always felt a little half-assed to me, particularly in comparison.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

well, I'd guess that Hits would be the one for you Alfred, just from what I know about your kinda radical pop-ism - you're not much of an album-as-form dude are ye

Gee, that couldn't be more wrong! I had no idea I created tha timpression. "Radical popism" and "album-as-form" (which I do believe in) are not binarities!

Speaking of disagreeing...we can't arguge about how bitchin' Boz looks in a pink blazer, no?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

It's all about "Loan Me A Dime". Classic

Incredibly accurate statement.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

there was some amazing stuff on the set he put out last year, too, although the re-recorded "Lowdown" was quite poor

I'd listen to Boz sing anything though really, dude has one of the all-time great rock voices & killer phrasing

J0hn D., Wednesday, 13 June 2007 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Reminds me of Van Morrison, without the listen-to-the-lion mannerisms.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link

anyone ever heard that first ultra-rare folkie album he made which only came out in Sweden??

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

he & Morrison have comparably excellent pitch, yes

J0hn D., Wednesday, 13 June 2007 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link

"wunn moe tahm, gonna get it…wunn fo' the rohh-hoe-oh-oh-oh-ode…"

"LIDO…WHOA OH OH OH OH-oh…"

awesome keyb arpeggios floow…

Veronica Moser, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

"Dime a Dance Romance" off Steve Miller's "Sailor" was Scaggs, I think, and is a great song.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Total C and Silk Degrees over Hits. I've been listening to Silk Degrees, Some Change, and Come on Home off and on for two weeks.

Jaq, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Has SIlk Degrees had the remaster treatment lately?

Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

A couple of years ago.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

<i>Has SIlk Degrees had the remaster treatment lately?</i>

Also, Hits, last year. Black and white houndstooth blazer instead of pink :(

Jaq, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Black and white houndstooth blazer instead of pink

in a just world there'd be rioting in the streets over this kind of shit

J0hn D., Wednesday, 13 June 2007 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I have to thank this thread and a coworker of mine for making me figure out he was the guy singing "Lido Shuffle" (and what the song itself was called) -- a mystery I rank on the level of figuring out that the one song was called "Baker Street" and was sung by Gerry Rafferty.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

can I saw how great "Harbor Lights" is? Thanks.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

oh HELL yes

J0hn D., Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

I never did buy Silk Degrees, John: I chose the updated Hits instead, which has got his not-so-good '88 Top 40 single. I shouldn't have been so shocked that apart from the singles I knew the guy is some kind of near genius.

I can't listen to Danny Wilson again either.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 22 November 2008 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

there is no better amusement park song than "Lowdown"...

henry s, Saturday, 22 November 2008 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

This song is perfect. That string solo in the middle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO26sQ5UkiU

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 February 2013 00:29 (seven years ago) link

yeah he could get lulled by the waterbed lushness early on, but then again he could do this, which I once blogged about:
"Somebody load me a dime/So I can call my old-time/Used-to-be." Right, so Boz Scaggs sings Lowell Fulson's "Loan Me A Dime," while rising and falling in the well-fed bosom of blues orchestration. This is from the late 60s, more or less the same era as what I (with little exposure) regarded as the fat times of his fulsome Marin County homegrown elevator easy listening hippie make-out music (as I may have previously described it in terminalzine prose). But as this song begins, his almost halting eloquence always accosts me, has me floating on the sidewalk several minutes later, when Duane Allman shows up, and the whole squadron strides forth, from the pathos of the blues into its boldness, with no disturbance of the (say it) vibe. Somebody loans him a dime, he knows now he can fix things up with his baby, or maybe he buys a cup of coffee (then also a dime, in some quarters). Anyway, he's energized, but not overstating his case, at least not before the phone call, or whatever the next pitch might be. No big resolution of the story arc, but he's resolved, and going somewhere.

dow, Monday, 4 February 2013 00:41 (seven years ago) link

middle man kicks. listened to it a lot while writing a big stupid thing about how sad "we're all alone" is

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 4 February 2013 08:28 (seven years ago) link

i heard "what can i say" in the wild recently and man it just purely rules

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 4 February 2013 08:29 (seven years ago) link

What does John Darnelle mean when he says upthread, "As far as I'm concerned Silk Degrees is the Loveless of its day" ? (I've never heard Loveless)

Iago Galdston, Friday, 8 February 2013 00:54 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

a classic album that you can play over and over and always find something new in the experience? an album that seems, on the surface, to be similar to many other things, but for which in reality there is no substitute? i don't know. this was the only LP of my mom's that i didn't "get" as a kid (~8-10 years old, when we still had the turntable set up) ... i would play beatles, springsteen, bee gees, elton john etc. to death but this album seemed too adult for my sensibilities. the result of this is that as an adult, the album retains a certain sophisticated glamor. i think 2013 is the year to re-listen to it because a lot of these smooth rock sounds are coming back, or have started to come back over the past few years.

Treeship, Friday, 17 May 2013 15:14 (seven years ago) link

(my last post in response to iago)

Treeship, Friday, 17 May 2013 15:15 (seven years ago) link

they've BEEN back.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 15:15 (seven years ago) link

but welcome! And play "We're All Alone" and "Harbor Lights" loudly.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 15:16 (seven years ago) link

right on. do you like destroyer's album Kaputt, alfred? that was the album that made me look again at smooth rock '70s stuff.

Treeship, Friday, 17 May 2013 15:17 (seven years ago) link

Yep.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 15:23 (seven years ago) link

one of my favorite albums of all time. perfect in almost every way except, as Xgau likes to harp on, sometimes the lyrics are lazy as hell.

/It's all about "Loan Me A Dime". Classic/

Incredibly accurate statement.


^thirded

one more for the road

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 17 May 2013 15:55 (seven years ago) link

two years ago i had a really rewarding experience just listening to "we're all alone" on repeat and trying to pull together a piece about it. no idea how i feel about that piece at this point but it was about three days of deep, meditative, mentally engaging work that of course i wouldn't have experienced without the stark landscape of that song

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 17 May 2013 16:00 (seven years ago) link

I'm really itching to whip out a version of Lido Shuffle next time I go to a karaoke bar

Moodles, Friday, 17 May 2013 16:12 (seven years ago) link

Brad! Can you post it?

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 16:13 (seven years ago) link

please post!!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 16:29 (seven years ago) link

should mention that the penultimate revelation in that piece about boz missing from the back cover art is indebted and deployed similarly to how aero described it in a video from a few years ago, which convinced me to buy the record

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 17 May 2013 17:41 (seven years ago) link

that's a terrific read, Brad.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 17:46 (seven years ago) link

thank you!

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 17 May 2013 17:57 (seven years ago) link

yeah great stuff, thank you so much for sharing!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 18:02 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

anyone heard A Fool to Care?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 September 2015 22:06 (five years ago) link

it's pretty good!

the "full of fire" cover especially

he's been solid for a while though. Check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaQ8H729kBE

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 September 2015 23:54 (five years ago) link

it's good, not as good as Fade Into Light though which had some utterly breathtaking classics on it

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 00:33 (five years ago) link

gotta say though this album is hitting the spot tonight, thanks for waking up the thread Alfred

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 00:51 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

my older son wanted me to play my LP of Other Roads, which I didn't remember as being too terrific, but wow -- really solid. wasn't ready for it when I bought it back around '98/'99. first song has a Jim Carrol cowrite credit, but it's the third song's credits that gave me a big smile: a Bobby Caldwell cowrite!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0OMzKGYLpo

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 1 November 2015 20:53 (five years ago) link

the other bobby caldwell cowrite on this album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQT3rb7h8JY

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 1 November 2015 20:55 (five years ago) link

my jam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO26sQ5UkiU

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 November 2015 21:01 (five years ago) link

Simone is sweet, it popped up on my spotify playlist last night

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Sunday, 1 November 2015 21:19 (five years ago) link

that Paich synthscape in the middle is a thing of beauty

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 November 2015 21:29 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

His new album is really nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmj6khcLM2Y

Brad C., Thursday, 2 August 2018 13:30 (two years ago) link

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/3a/81/53/3a8153d87e29d1cbc47df95598a08a23--suitcases-new-girl.jpg

reminds me of molly shannon on seinfeld. "what's wrong with her arms? they just hang like salamis."

andrew m., Thursday, 2 August 2018 14:21 (two years ago) link

I've never heard anyone say that about Boz Scaggs before

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 2 August 2018 14:53 (two years ago) link

apparently Boz can't lift his hands above his shoulders, though sometimes he tries

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/60/dc/25/60dc253d55149627e083f0cda404eb96--music-music-music-lyrics.jpg

Brad C., Thursday, 2 August 2018 15:49 (two years ago) link

The shoulder pads in the suit he wore on the cover of Hits probably fucked him up.

brimstead, Thursday, 2 August 2018 18:25 (two years ago) link

Nice song, that new one!

... (Eazy), Thursday, 2 August 2018 18:36 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

even if he sucked -- which he very much doesn't -- his name is boz scaggs

mookieproof, Monday, 23 December 2019 06:19 (eleven months ago) link

Is it short for Boris?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 23 December 2019 06:30 (eleven months ago) link

William Royce

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 December 2019 06:45 (eleven months ago) link

boz scaggs

mookieproof, Monday, 23 December 2019 07:10 (eleven months ago) link

respect

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 23 December 2019 07:33 (eleven months ago) link

ten months pass...

What do you need? These songs.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:33 (one week ago) link

Nice! I liked a few recent ones, can’t remember what Xgau said.

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:55 (one week ago) link

boz scaggs

mookieproof, Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:56 (one week ago) link

one of my hobbyhorses is that his 2004-ish iirc Fade Into Light is massively underrated, esp.the title song, one of his best.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:57 (one week ago) link

_boz scaggs_

ffs

Indieland Phil and Indieland Don (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 November 2020 05:18 (one week ago) link


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