Did anybody here get Television - Adventure (remaster)?

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First off: If marquee moon is 5 stars, Adventure is 4 stars. Not less.

Two: Does your copy cut off on the instrumental "aint that nothing" at around 9 mins?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

bought it a month ago, still haven't listened to it

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

bought it last Friday : still haven't listened to it.

It's a great album though.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

arrgh, someone listen to it....

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i've listened to some of it, but i never had the CD before until now, so i wouldn't now a song might be prematurely cut off. i mostly just listen "glory" a lot.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, pleez.. listen to it (it's the last track, unlisted apart from a mention in the text of the booklet.)

It turns into a long 'jam' and ends suddenly like they ran out of tape.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Is the question whether it's supposed to end that way? Mine's an advance CDR, given to me by the guy who supervised the project, and it ends (rather abruptly) at 9:47. I sorta presumed that's how it would've been on the master reel, but I'll ask...

M Specktor (M Specktor), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's the one. I only wonder as in the booklet it makes mention about how the instrumental has an 'alternate' ending.

Cheers if you can do that...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I am searching for this one, but it wasn't made a domestic release in Canada from what I can tell. Will report back.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

*raises her hand*

I'll listen to it on the way to work tomorrow and tell you what I find out.

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Thursday, 30 October 2003 02:50 (sixteen years ago) link

So it seems to be the same for everyone.

I note that the booklet mentioned a different 'coda' rather than an alternate ending...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 10:49 (sixteen years ago) link

unless ...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 6 November 2003 09:32 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...
or?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 24 May 2004 08:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry Mark...I never put the question. Will do now.

M Specktor, Monday, 24 May 2004 11:37 (sixteen years ago) link

ta

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 10:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Yep...apparently it ends just so on the master reel. not sure what the said 'coda' would be, as my friend didn't write the notes. (ie. he doesn't know either.)

M Specktor, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link

five years pass...

this album is really great. obv it lives in the shadow of marquee moon, but damn this is good stuff

XX Decontrol (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 6 February 2010 00:49 (ten years ago) link

yeah it is a wonderful record -- obviously it's gonna be tough to follow up that debut, but you're missing out if you think Television is just Marquee Moon. So much good music on here -- Verlaine's solo on "Foxhole," that opening riff on "Days," the fade out on "Dreamer's Dream" ...

tylerw, Saturday, 6 February 2010 02:00 (ten years ago) link

"days" is one if their best songs. ditto "carried away"

anita bonghit (rionat), Saturday, 6 February 2010 11:23 (ten years ago) link

The Clientele covered "The Fire" on some EP or single a few years back -- an inspired choice. Not a lot of cover versions from this album, though! I assume some people have done "Glory" but I haven't heard any I don't think.
Richard Lloyd claims the "Days" riff is "Mr. Tambourine Man" backwards. Or something like it.
A few years ago, someone popped up on an ILM thread claiming to have heard unreleased demos from this album that were amazing. Said they hadn't been bootlegged. Where is that guy now?

tylerw, Saturday, 6 February 2010 16:54 (ten years ago) link

i also LOVE the bonus title cut (on the reissue). and "ain't that nothin" is another killer track on there.

pobrecito (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 6 February 2010 16:55 (ten years ago) link

yeah, crazy that the title track didn't make the album, that is a fun track.

tylerw, Saturday, 6 February 2010 16:58 (ten years ago) link

man verlaine's solo on "the fire" is intense

anita bonghit (rionat), Thursday, 18 February 2010 00:29 (ten years ago) link

Lloyd Cole did a fine cover of "Glory," which made me go back and appreciate the original even more (though I might almost prefer Cole's version).

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 18 February 2010 03:37 (ten years ago) link

seven years pass...

This album is still colossally underrated... the biting riff on 'Foxhole'! The entirety of 'Glory'! The sweet guitar work and vocal harmonies on 'Days'! No, it's not Marquee Moon, but it's fucking close.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Friday, 7 April 2017 19:30 (three years ago) link

Dream's dream ranks with anything they ever did

iris marduk (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 April 2017 20:10 (three years ago) link

Yeah, there's some lovely guitar work on that, but... of course there is, this is Television! Anyone who loved the guitar playing on Marquee Moon should dig Adventure, really!

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Friday, 7 April 2017 20:17 (three years ago) link

I think the Adventure material done on Live at the Old Waldorf really shines and when done alongside Marquee Moon stuff you realize the difference in perception was mostly just Adventure's slightly bloodless production

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 April 2017 20:28 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I agree that it could have done with a less "clinical" production, but I genuinely think this record is great on its own terms.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Friday, 7 April 2017 20:43 (three years ago) link

definitely a great album

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 April 2017 20:47 (three years ago) link

I often get the impression that if Adventure had been the debut and Marquee Moon the follow-up, then it would be seen by more people for what it is rather than what it isn't.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Friday, 7 April 2017 21:00 (three years ago) link

Verlaine seems to have been reacting *against* punk/new wave with Adventure, loading the album up with slower tempos and more elegant arrangements. If he had thrown in "O Mi Amore" and the title track, it might've been a little more in line with the times. but i think the album is great as is ...

tylerw, Friday, 7 April 2017 21:19 (three years ago) link

Bought it again about a month ago because my previous version was scratched.
Unfortunately looks like its long since OOP. So had to go through Discogs.
But have always loved the lp since buying it mid 80s.

I really like the '78 live sets too.

Stevolende, Friday, 7 April 2017 21:22 (three years ago) link

yeah the live stuff from that era is unbelievable.

tylerw, Friday, 7 April 2017 21:27 (three years ago) link

someone tweeted this at me today, and it's probably otm
"play Adventure on 45 & it sounds exactly like Crazy Rhythms"

tylerw, Friday, 7 April 2017 22:09 (three years ago) link

A few years ago, someone popped up on an ILM thread claiming to have heard unreleased demos from this album that were amazing. Said they hadn't been bootlegged.

There are bootlegged live-in-the-studio sounding demos with arrangements that are not very different from the album version. Favourites are the instrumental versions of Glory and Foxhole. I think some of this has came out officially now, on the last reissue of Adventure.

everything, Friday, 7 April 2017 22:52 (three years ago) link

Yeah I think he/she suggested these were different from the stuff that's surfaced on bootleg or on the rhino reissue? There's an acetate w/ different mixes that's floated around ... but from what I remember these were summer of 77 demos?

tylerw, Friday, 7 April 2017 23:21 (three years ago) link

"Foxhole" is easily the worst thing on this album - by a fucking million miles. Apart from the solo, which is genius. Everything else is great. "Carried Away" is gorgeous.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Friday, 7 April 2017 23:24 (three years ago) link

... music and lyrics.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Friday, 7 April 2017 23:25 (three years ago) link

It's crossed my mind that Foxhole, with those lyrics and the sub-Keith Richards riff is sorta like a Dogs D'Amour/Hanoi Rocks type thing.

everything, Friday, 7 April 2017 23:42 (three years ago) link

It's rockist, I tell ya.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Friday, 7 April 2017 23:49 (three years ago) link

"Carried Away" is gorgeous

sleeve, Friday, 7 April 2017 23:49 (three years ago) link

meant to bold that "is", sorry

sleeve, Friday, 7 April 2017 23:50 (three years ago) link

Shame there isn't a full gig from the time around on video.
There is a good take of Foxhole from I think OGWT from '78.
& the Hell line up in Terry Ork's loft.
But would love a full set from 78.

Stevolende, Friday, 7 April 2017 23:58 (three years ago) link

'Carried Away' is gorgeous, I agree, but 'Foxhole' is fucking great.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Saturday, 8 April 2017 00:11 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

some acetate-sourced rough mixes here — nothing earth-shattering, but cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsmcth6V6Fo&feature=youtu.be

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:03 (one week ago) link

^ what is that ? video doesn't work for me.

budo jeru, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:14 (one week ago) link

hmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsmcth6V6Fo&feature=youtu.be

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:15 (one week ago) link

youtube.com/watch?v=rsmcth6V6Fo&feature=youtu.be

i guess copy and paste the link -- must be un-embeddable for some reason.

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:16 (one week ago) link

yeah, got it twice i fact I think.

Couldn't find first copy i had a couple of years ago so I reordered and found out that the readily available one then was teh previous version. But did get the digipack version, probably from DIScogs.,

Do love taht lp, possibly not as much as the live material fro the era which can get really hypnotic.

Soun di sgood, bonus tracks are ok. Do love the title track which is pretty fun and r'n'r-y .

Stevolende, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:36 (one week ago) link


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