Defend the indefensible: White Zombie

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Come on, guys - some of those songs are pretty good. That "Black Sunshine" song or whatever was pretty kickass. Never heard any of their albums, tho - anyone care to share?

roger adultery, Saturday, 25 October 2003 18:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

White Zombie are totally defensible, but I like Rob's solo stuff even more. Haunted house disco-metal. I keep forgetting to buy that new compilation.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 October 2003 18:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

the music for quake2 is great!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 25 October 2003 18:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

They're rubbish, but I once sold one of their albums for £10, thus making a profit from their success.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Saturday, 25 October 2003 18:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

White Zombie are totally defensible

Yeah, completely. They did what Ministry were trying to do in the early nineties but better.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 October 2003 18:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i still have a soft spot for la sexorcismo, esp. "welcome to planet motherfucker." i'm slightly embarrassed by this, for whatever reason. at their best, they're like some kinda maniac's mash-up of ministry and swervedriver (esp. cause of all the songs about cars and girls).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Dude, there's nothing indefensible about White Zombie at all! Out of all the music that I used to listen to in junior high, WZ is the only stuff I ever still listen to. And that includes, like, Beck and stuff. Hard rock radio is worthless except for White Zombie! I can see now that all that Metallica they play sucks; but white zombie is still good. It's too bad they play Rob Zombie's solo stuff more than WZ, because he sucks alone.

Dan I., Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

All the Metallica that the radio stations play, I mean.

Dan I., Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I will not tolerate "Dragula" hate.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

We need more metal bands that sample dialogue from Shaft and write songs about really fucking fast cars.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:29 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

White Zombie/Rob Zombie never took themselves/himself particularly seriously, thus there's nothing to be embarassed or apologize about. They themselves were well aware of the inherent silliness of their mission. Thus, "indefensible" is not applicable.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 25 October 2003 20:30 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Rob Zombie's a really nice guy, apparently.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 25 October 2003 20:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Through my work, I've had to deal with Rob Zombie on two different projects. He's an exceptionally down to earth guy, very good to everyone on the totem pole. I remember a conversation that I (and others) had with him about horror movies, which he's real knowledgdable about.

I've never spent any time with his music, though.

Hildy, Saturday, 25 October 2003 22:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Hard rock radio is worthless except for White Zombie!

Dan I OTM.

sucka (sucka), Saturday, 25 October 2003 23:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Agree 100% about hard rock radio. More Human than Human was one of the few things that brightened up the end of high school for me.

daria g (daria g), Sunday, 26 October 2003 01:20 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Does anyone have the new Best Of from Rob/White Zombie? It seems like it would be a good listen. AND HE COVERS BRICK HOUSE!!

Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 26 October 2003 01:29 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I saw'em the summer before Freshman year in HS and it was with Kyuss, then Babes in Toyland, the Rev Hortone H., then WZ, and it rocked the fuck out.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 26 October 2003 03:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

This is an uber-indie thing to say, but they were really great back when they were this totally weird, freaked-out band outta NY releasing records that hardly anyone heard (Psycho-Head Blowout, the Pig Heaven 7") and touring basically behind the strength of a cool name. Saw 'em at a floating (i.e., not venue-specific) club called Alcohol Salad in '87 and they were like people from another planet.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 26 October 2003 03:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Search: Waves of grinding, screechy geetar fed into the drum machine for added metallicious percusiosity!
Destroy: Lame, moronic, pointless, shapeless, meaningless lyrics.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Sunday, 26 October 2003 04:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

You know what, Custos, fuck lyrics. I think that David Byrne said something about that once.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 26 October 2003 04:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah...but Byrne's lyrics, even when they were lame, made a perverse kind of sense. Rob Zombie -- as much as I love the guy* -- his lyrics are unavoidable, and get irksome after awhile.

Footnotes:
* First guy to take the "cookie monster vocal"** into the mainstream
** I mean besides the cookie monster himself.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Sunday, 26 October 2003 04:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Footnotes:
* First guy to take the "cookie monster vocal"** into the mainstream
** I mean besides the cookie monster himself.

-- Lord Custos Omicron

ohmigaud...that is freaking funny.

I totally love my memories as Rob as a performer and neighbor...he was as a really nice guy, long on hair, short on shampoo...he gave us a kitten...maybe he even gave us first dibs from the litter, not sure...anyhow, I also remember him insisting that this mangy dog be in all the photos with them when I was taking some photos of em on ave b. The dog just started hanging out with us when I was trying to shoot. I couldn't believe Rob actually HELD the dog during all the photos. I mean the dog was nice, but his hair looked JUST LIKE ROB's! I was afraid of what was in the hair.

BurmaKitty (BurmaKitty), Sunday, 26 October 2003 15:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

hey were really great back when they were this totally weird, freaked-out band outta NY

Don't believe the hype. I saw them perform back then (at the Pyramid) and they were pretty dreadful (pardon the pun). Moving to L.A. and investing in the spit'n'polish of the studio was the best thing for that band.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 26 October 2003 17:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ladies and Gentlebeings...the amazing and long-awaited return of BurmaKitty.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 27 October 2003 01:20 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

re: Ministry comparisons...ah, yes, but without the added, er, something of With Sympathy, yessss? >D

i have to say that White Zombie live was a LOT of fun. i saw them as part of some festival thing sometime after La Sexorcisto... had been released, although i don't remember exactly when. hadn't gone to see them (hadn't really intended on going in the first place; actually got talked into it by a friend with an extra ticket), but was quite pleasantly surprised.

and Sean Yseult rocks. <3

janni (janni), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:28 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Astro Creep 2000 was a great record. Especially near the end, some really cool songs with clanky percussion detuned spooky chants. Very wise of them to break up after making the best possible White Zombie record. I saw them on that tour too, it was probably the best rock show I saw in high school. John Tempesta's a great drummer.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:35 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

No dissing _With Sympathy_ is allowed seeing as it completely kicks the ass of everything they've released since 1989 and is pretty much their second-best proper album (the best being _Twitch_, of course).

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah: best consistent use of vocal samples by a rock band?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 27 October 2003 17:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

nine years pass...

WTF ... how is White Zombie "indefensible" in any way?!?

granted, upthread 9 years ago i said that i was a bit "embarrassed" -- but that's different than "defending the indefensible."

عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer), Saturday, 25 May 2013 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Well it seems like most of the posts are actually defending them. Coincidentally, one of my best friends is passing thru a white zombie obsession at the moment so Ive been overhearing their music a lot. They're a tad homogenic but I like their thing. The geeky references and how powerful some of their music sounds. Somehow I dont think it translates well into a live setting.

Moka, Saturday, 25 May 2013 16:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Well it seems like most of the posts are actually defending them.

yeah that's true and heartening. i'm more o_O as to why the thread was created in the first place.

عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer), Saturday, 25 May 2013 16:34 (five years ago) Permalink

i only have the sinister urge by rob zombie.
but damn, its a fun album (the chugga chugga guitars + big tunes + horror cliches = mark e hotspot).
are they all as good as that ?

mark e, Saturday, 25 May 2013 16:35 (five years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

name five records that exemplify ~~90sness~~ more than 'astro-creep 2000'

j., Tuesday, 10 January 2017 03:50 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Footnotes:
* First guy to take the "cookie monster vocal"** into the mainstream
** I mean besides the cookie monster himself.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Sunday, October 26, 2003 12:14 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol this was totally RONG

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 January 2019 23:54 (two months ago) Permalink


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