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Inspied by Dr C's thread on The Passage I dug out my copy of pillows and prayers and was amazed by how much good stuff was on it, Felt, Tracey Thorn, Thomas Leer etc.
It also seems to me to be a strand of music which has been entirely overlooked, ripe for re-assessment perhaps?

Billy Dods, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I keep finding odd and strange stuff on that there label -- Dave Cavanagh's book on Creation actually talks a bit about its early history, including the Mike Alway connection, about which I'm sure Momus can go into more detail. Most recent thing I got was the double disc Fuzzbox collection/reissue/whatever.

Search: Marine Girls (oh yes), early Alien Sex Fiend (okay, it's Anagram, but it's part of the whole semi-psuedo-empire) and indeed both Felt and Momus. And Eyeless in Gaza, so ha.

Destroy: no names come immediately to mind, probably because I've avoided them

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Please don't forget the Nightingales.

Jerry, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

If I'm making the right label associations, then I'd add:

Search: McCarthy, the Monochrome Set, and Blind Mr. Jones.

Destroy: Stan, Mexico 70.

Random associations: (a) Aren't the also responsible for some stuff like the Not Sensibles and some Spizz project or other? (b) What's the name of that second-string Slowdive-y shoegazer band that showed up on so many of their comps? (c) I'm just now trying to make up my mind about Louis Phillipe.

Nitsuh, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think you answered your own shoegaze question there, Nitsuh -- Blind Mr. Jones. ;-) No, actually I like them a lot for the first album -- second album, deep distress! But thank you for reminding me of them and McCarthy, and somebody somewhere else mentioned the Charlottes, also an enjoyable bunch.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's the Charlottes I'm thinking of here.

(And yeah, I knew someone would say that about Blind Mr. Jones. But they seemed more sub-Ride than sub-Slowdive.)

Nitsuh, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Destroy: their umpteen football song compilations. There's TWO Middlesbrough FC albums. One wasn't enough, it seems.

I would say Destroy: Football per se, but apart from Will Self I don't think I'd get much sympathy.

Dickon Edwards, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

True, Nitsuh -- that and a big ol' dollop of the Cure, which I hardly minded, typically enough.

Two full albums? One EP would be more than enough. Single-sided at that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Destroy: Football. Destroy: The suffocating football worship that makes this country a slightly duller place than it needs to be.
They took away our opium and gave us EastEnders and Football.

Eyeless in Gaza!

DavidM, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Search: Marine Girls (of course), Tracey Thorn's first solo album (surprisingly), Nightingales especially Son Of God's Mate era and early Prefects stuff, one single by the Monochrome Set (do you really need more?), Felt (I guess, although I always felt they were overrated), Thomas Leer... oh, and the Nightingales. Have I mentioned them yet?

Destroy: BEN BLOODY WATT! That's what. Also Eyeless In Gaza (had one good song though) and virtually everyone on the hippie's charter Pillows And Prayers.

Search: Pigs On Purpose and Urban Ospreys, the othe two Nightingales records you need on Cherry Red. Did I mention them yet?

Jerry, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

...and let's not forget the Nightingales, eh?

Jerry, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Are these Nightingales any good then?

Billy Dods, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What about Prolapse? Any opinions on them?

Did anyone hear the Mr Swenson record 'The Sensuous Man' I put out on my Analog Baroque imprint of Cherry Red? That was lyrically and sonically perhaps the most extreme record ever made.

And I want to know your impressions of my friend Louis Philippe, Nitsuh. He's extremely intelligent and talented, some of his records take the Beach Boys' Chamber Pop formula into realms we might call 'exquisite', yet there's something -- hmm, what's the word? Unctuous? Fustian? -- about them. He comes on like the pop equivalent of a wine snob. And what does it mean when a Frenchman buys into the mythology of England more than the English themselves do? What values are getting celebrated?

Momus, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What about Prolapse? Any opinions on them?

Crabby, entertaining bastards. Very much a compliment. Friend Brian met Mick at Terrastock 2 and thought him rather Scottish.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Just found a copy of tha Nightingales EP with "Son of God's Mate" and "Which Hi-Fi?" on it. Definitely their best work, and goes nicely with my treasured vinyl copies of their first two albums.

On a slightly related tack, anyone remember Yeah Yeah Noh? (Yes, I know they weren't on Cherry Red!) I was surprised to see that there's a CD compilation of their stuff available now. I saw it in Sister Ray. I do't have title, label etc details, but no doubt this info is out there somewhere. Cue DJ Martian!

Destroy - all Marine Girls, Tracey Thorn, Ben Watt.

Dr. C, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

That Yeah Yeah Noh reissue is on Cherry Red - so you're on topic. And it's a wonderful thing.

James Kyllo, Tuesday, 28 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

Big ass playlist with lots of Cherry Red artists if you're interested.

http://open.spotify.com/user/polyphonique/playlist/3XQtpi7J7tIgsPBsfJPxPe

polyphonic, Saturday, 1 February 2014 04:56 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

Cherry Red has taken over from Rhino as the ultimate compilers. Their C86-C89 3CD sets are great and they just put out "1977: The Year That Punk Broke" which highlights all sorts of gems from that year. Anyone know if they're planning on continuing the yearly overviews?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 9 August 2019 19:27 (four months ago) link

THey seem to be an umbrella group that has a few really good reissue labels under it. Got Esoteric, Grapefruit, and about 5 others, possibly more. Grapefruit have been doing some great psych and prog 3cds for the last few years.

Stevolende, Friday, 9 August 2019 21:06 (four months ago) link


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