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Hi Stew! QQ were ace I reckon, although no-one else seems to like them. They featured Mike Pickering and were a sort of more commercial, more electro version of ACR with less gloom. Genius is prob. the best known track - early House, very Hacienda 1983 & so on... I love the album too.

Artery were a wierd bunch - I can't remember the name of the singer. What was it? Ah - Mark Gouldthorpe? I hope LTM will re-release 'One Afternoon In A Hot Air Balloon' too.

Ari-up : I saw the other thread. Probably not, as i have a darts match to play. If it's cancelled then possibly. Enjoy it!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 13 June 2003 07:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i'm quite keen on the upcoming BeMusic productions compilation LTM are doing..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 13 June 2003 11:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Pigs and battleships is pretty good, but nothing on it is reaches the splendour of Love tempo. Do LTM reissues have bonus tracks, remixes etc? Cos' then it would be worth investing in a copy.

Incidentally it probably has the worst sleeve for anything released on Factory, Peter Saville must have been on his holiday's.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 13 June 2003 16:35 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Do they have bonus tracks! I have yet to see the LTM reissue without bonus tracks, I think, and that's all to the good. James Nice believes in value for money, that's for dang sure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 June 2003 16:42 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

And continuing my listens, For All and None is pretty damn good as well -- "Photo Romance" is my favorite from that one, that's one wonderfully weird and grand song, as is "Do the Bastinado" -- while Degenerates is currently doing my head in. "Xoyo" is SO fucked up...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 June 2003 20:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I reckon the QQ LTM reissue will have all the singles and b-sides added on, Billy, they usually do.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Saturday, 14 June 2003 09:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Xoyo" is the only song of theirs I've heard, but from it I put a star next to the passage on my to-get list.

A Nairn (moretap), Sunday, 15 June 2003 01:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Here's the info on the Quando Quango release :

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 14:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
i've discovered lots of good music after reading about it first on ilm, so when i saw a copy of 'degenerates' by the passage for a pound(!) i remembered this thread and bought it.
and i just dont get it. this is one of the worst records i've ever heard. incredibly dated keyboard sounds, terrible singing with that 80s 'must speak some of the lines cos they'll sound more meaningful n stuff'. its like they want to be omd but wouldnt dare do anything so pop, so act all selfconsciously weird instead. ugh.

are all their records like this, or is this one of those you needed to be there at the time things?

joni, Friday, 29 August 2003 09:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh my. Amazon kept recommending that I buy stuff by the Passage and I read up on them and AMG-ed and stuff and last week I got Degenerates and it is exactly exactly my cup of tea. I was completely struck by how un-dated it sounds, XoYo is Favourite Song Ever at the moment, it's all beetlebrowed and whirry and things and I cannot wait to purchase the other three. And the sleeves are really ace too.

Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

fck i just heard pindrop for the first time in eons and its fantastic. i have some baggage there, sure, but, uh, oh, i dunno joni. can't be rational...ned! help! ;-)

xpost: thanks alex. does it really go "xoyo triple x sex mosaics?"

gaz (gaz), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I think it does, acely. The Passage maybe nudge past Disco Inferno as Without-ILM-I-Would've-NEVER-KNOWN gleamy gem now.

Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Cor! This thread keeps bobbing up. I am so pleased that people are hearing and liking The Passage.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i also just heard the peel sessions (with female vcls) for the first time, and am surprised at how much darker the dickwitts vers are. what were they doing? why did they stop?

gaz (gaz), Friday, 29 August 2003 10:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ned! help!

*cough cough* Can I assist?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ned is omnipresent! even at this time of morning!

btw do you know why they ditched the girl singer?

gaz (gaz), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

All I heard was (at the time and I think it's mentioned in the sleevenotes) that *she wasn't really into it*. A bit lame I know.

Ned - have you heard of this :

Obscuro trax from the Wild Swans. It's very good.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:58 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

btw dr.c, osbourne has told me i must take umbridge with your inability to appreciate the monochrome set. but then i am a middle aged middle class git. so bear me no mind. except i like them.

gaz (gaz), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Spiff, Dr. C. I will investigate.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

That Wild Swans LP is very fine, although my feeling is that 2CDs is overegging the pudding slightly.

I was very pleased to read in the sleevenotes that a very limited (like 200 copies) white label 7" of "Revolutionary Spirit" was pressed before the Zoo release. I had always thought that my copy was some sort of bootleg.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 1 September 2003 11:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I want to hear this band.

David. (Cozen), Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:17 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ah i see people have spotted the wild swans cd, is that my life i see passing before me.
i'm on the live tracks recorded by serge ant and i certainly didn't expect they'd ever be released. well welly well.
next up in 04 is my old band 'benny profane'. it's all happening.

joe mckechnie, Thursday, 30 October 2003 11:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink


Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 17:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Still waiting for D.Witts to post!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:30 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
An appreciative feature on The Passage by writer Nicholas Royle in the December issue of UK music mag The Wire,

Marten, Thursday, 4 December 2003 12:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
there's some passage live tracks to be had.
this will be ongoing with contributions of course being welcome.

mckechnie, Monday, 16 February 2004 18:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh neat! *bookmarks same*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 February 2004 19:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Really amazing to find all this stuff on The Passage after all this time. I was the girl singer in 1980 who appeared on the first Peel sessions and the single Devils and Angels with the far superior B side Watching You Dance...if only if only, Dick had released the B side as the A side. I see here contributions from Joe and Andy, would love to get in touch and see how things are turning out. Also from Dick (but see nothing from him here). I left the band because I was young and Dick could be hard going, with the benifit of hindsight and maturity I wish I had been advised to hang on in there because we created some good music and Dick was a clever man and my voice developed with my confidence as I continued singing until fairly recently...and no doubt will again (when the right things come up). I moved around a lot (lived in Australia for a few years) and lost touch. Will get in touch again. How goes it Joe?? I am having a happy life on the whole. Love Lizzy xxxx

Lizzy Johnson, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

FUCKING HELL! LIZZY!! Lizzy - your stuff with the Passage was mighty!

This is amazing. Wilson, McKechnie, and now LIZZY JOHNSON!

Where are you Dick Witts?

Ha! I was going to post to this thread today - I was listening to the Yellow Magic Orchestra's 'Technodelic' reissue and track 3 'Stairs' *is* The Passage!

I love ILM! I love the Passage!!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Am I right in saying that a young Damien Mahoney drummed for The Passage before joining Hurrah!? I understand that after Hurrah! he joined the Police (not The Police, the real actual Police). But am I getting muddled?

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, this is cool indeed. :-) Rah for Lizzy, who did great! I think the Passage moment that comes to my mind most is that sung/whispered "LIBERTY!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:30 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, this is awesome!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, Tim - exactly right. He was 'Paul' Mahoney whilst in the Passage.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:35 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm sold! So with which album should a Passage novice start? At the beginning? With the Peel Sessions?

paul c (paul c), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Pindrop or Degenerates probably, but anywhere is good!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 11:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
nother new track at yammer site - lon don

manley belch, Saturday, 29 May 2004 13:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


Dr. C (Dr. C), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I think this thread can't be revived enough, it's great to see how everything just sorta evolves. (This is also a shameless plea to ask Mr. McKechnie if he knows anything about a Modern Eon rerelease -- somewhere -- anytime...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 13:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

>So with which album should a Passage novice start? At the beginning? >With the Peel Sessions?

Most accessible ? Probably Degenerates.

Seedy is a good, if jagged and uneven compilation.

Ric Euteneuer, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 15:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
My own John Peel homage today -- listening to the Peel Session disc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Getting into the car to drive home from work last Wednesday, I heard the sad news about John Peel. Arriving home 20 minutes later, I find the BBC sessions have been (very kindly) sent to me by James Nice. So I hear this fantastic Passage music and my own contribution which I have not heard in .... 24 years for the first time on the very day John Peel died. Kind of a strange coincidence. Will miss his Radio One and Radio Four shows badly.

elizabeth johnson, Sunday, 31 October 2004 14:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
Okay. great. thanks a lot you guys. cuzza this thread I picked up nice shiny vinyl copies of For All And None and Degenerates and now I want them all! Please don't tell me about anything else great for a while cuz i am running out of money. I really dig this stuff. It's right up my alley. (while i was at it i picked up a copy of Blue Orchids' Agent Of Change e.p. digging that one too.)

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 26 November 2004 08:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

agents of change is great!

bulbs (bulbs), Friday, 26 November 2004 09:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
Just thought I'd pop in again to say hello.

Sorry I've not done much with the Yammer site for a while. Lots of irons in the fire etc. Still got a pile of press cuttings from James Nice to scan for the site (I gave up transcribing them).

Was supposed to get something from Momus for the site, but it never happened. I think I upset him when I mentioned that I heard his single on the Steve Wright Show in the late 80s. I bought one of his albums though, so I can't have been taking the piss.

Been getting live stuff to put on the web site, but I have to be careful not to exceed my bandwidth or the site will rapidly disappear. Otherwise no new news to add - although I see something about Wild Swans and Benny Profance, which certainly seems noteworthy.

BTW I saw Benny Profane in some Liverpool pub in the 80s (can't remember the name but it did regular lock-ins, only I couldn't stay late because my friend was being sick). Used to see the singer (Dave?) around a lot - must have lived near me. Joe started the set off on drums and then played guitar for the rest of it IIRC - not quite what I expected.

Nice to see Lizzy here too. She contacted me and kindly sent me some scans for the site.

Actually, I'm hoping you good folks have something to add to the site. Maybe you have more detail to add to the biography or discography. Maybe you have press cuttings or photographs. Maybe you've got a naughty live bootleg you'd like to share. Please get in touch, I'm ready to do more site stuff :-)

Keith Nuttall, Friday, 10 June 2005 18:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Let me revive this again because I don't know if anyone noticed Keith's post in June! (I didn't!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 August 2005 03:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It's surprising and awesome that this thread has so many replies.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Monday, 15 August 2005 04:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Fabulous band!
Degenerates is such a fabulous album. First heard of them on Cherry red sampler Pillows and Prayers. Ran out to by Degenerates! Go to seed must be my fave album track.
Thought Enflame was fab too if not boardering on techno!

Antzman, Saturday, 20 August 2005 13:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


dafox, Sunday, 21 August 2005 17:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I'm listening to Pindrop for the 1st time right now, it took a few songs for me to get into it, but I'm really liking this now. Is there a recommended order for me to check out their other albums?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

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