tell me about Houston hip-hop

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about H-town rap bizness;
diggin' Baby Bash

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

The combination of Bushwick Bill, Scarface, and Willie D. on those classic 5th Ward Geto Boys tracks will never be topped. That is all I know about Houston, TX.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, pretty much what Ben said. Most Houston rap really isn't that good to bother with.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

DJ Screw, RIP.

doug (doug), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

SPM's "Never Change" and "Time and Money" are real good. I'm not too into his early stuff though, but its a shame he likes to molest pre teen girls.

Swisha House has a real good thing going on. Chamillionaire is in my opinion one of the most creative lyricists out there right now. I like Michael Watts' screw tapes alot more than DJ Screws, he is the god of chopping. Mike Jones and Magno "First Round Draft Picks" is a damn fine album, and it comes with the screwed and chopped version. You can't go wrong with that.

Lil Flip is pretty reliable. His track on the new Luda "Screwed Up" is the best on the album. (maybe "We Got Them Guns" produced by DJ paul and juicy j is better)

But most of Houston I feel is pretty hit and miss. Lil Keke, ESG and Slim Thug, and most of the more underground people I can't get into.

joshd, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I got that K-Otix album, Universal, I think. Got it more than a year ago and probably only listened to it twice. Not bad, just meh.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

lil flip adds a lot to the great david banner record.

dan (dan), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I was a fan of David Banner since the THEM FIREWATER BOYZ album, and when I first heard "Like A Pimp" I was worried about him coming out on a song where he simply gets massacred by the guest. But things seem to be working out for him, so I am happy.

I love how the beginning of the "Cadillac on 22's" video starts off with a little girl being run over by a Cadillac on 22's.

joshd, Wednesday, 15 October 2003 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll second that Swisha House recommendation.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey wait -- it is close to Halloween

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 16 October 2003 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Chamillionaire is really good. He's perfect at the little punchlines ('Ain't gotta buy Doritos cause we already got chips, nigga') that the whole thing relies on and he can still flow. Like, he just uses the punchlines as hooks, kind of. (Paul Wall just uses them back to back to back, 'Niggas think I'm working for Kellogs, mouth full of frosted flakes. I wreck the mic like if you drive and you lost your brakes.') Chamillion kind of reminds me of Flip but he doesn't have the distinctive voice. Someone comes with a great verse and I have to rewind it back and figure out who it was and it's always Chamillion. (I'm pretty sure he's on every single Swishahouse release ever.) (Best Chamillionaire verses: Yung-Ro - 'Ya'll Don't Want Us to Come,' Paul Wall and Chamillionaire - 'Balla Talk II,' the 'Itz Ya Dog' freestyle from Before Da Kappa 2K1)

d k (d k), Friday, 17 October 2003 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

it'z ya dog freestyle is amazing. ten minutes of HEAT.

joshd, Saturday, 18 October 2003 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link

It's all about Lil Chuli and that guy who gets Ziggy w/ Miss Piggy, South Park Mexican. Really, I don't know shit, I got all of that from a lady in my office who was from TX, She said some of the Homies figurines I had reminded her of them. But Houston is most famous for that 620 movie.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 18 October 2003 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.southside.host.sk/spm/spmalbums.htm

You've never seen album cover art this cool.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 18 October 2003 02:43 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.elyrics.net/songs/s/South_Park_Mexican/

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 18 October 2003 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link

The next album SPM sells, I demand 7 cents finder's fee.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 18 October 2003 02:46 (eighteen years ago) link

SPM has been sent to prison for several decades.

Big T ft. Lil Flip - 'Candy On Chrome' (My favourite Flip verse ever. It's so cool.)
Yungstar - 'We Got Plex'
ESG and Slim Thug - 'Down Here'
Big Pokey ft. Big Moe - 'My Boo'
Lil Flex - 'Lights, Camera, Action'

dlk (d k), Saturday, 18 October 2003 05:27 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I just heard that Baby Bash track for the first time today. It's bad and he's really ugly. Look at his eyes!

d k (d k), Sunday, 14 December 2003 02:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Free download of the Color Changing Click Cleveland Special mixtape. Featuring a remix of the Lil Flip remix of that DMX song. (Chamillionaire is for sure the hottest guy in H-Town right now. [Everybody: 'Mayyne, Cham is the real Freestyle King. Flip been slipping for a minute now. Do we really need another track about how many watches he's got? He needs to give it up.' Cham: 'Well, I mean, I'm hot and all but Flip actually freestyles and I don't. So, like, it's different.'])(This is the last CCC thing with Paul Wall on it, too. And he's barely on it. He's rich.)

d k (d k), Sunday, 14 December 2003 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
The newer Swishahouse comp (The Day Hell Broke Loose 2) is great, I can't believe I haven't seen anyone mention it. Even comes with a chopped/screwed mix for the price of one album.

Highlights - Slim Thug/Mike Jones "Still Tippin'" and Mike Jones "Got It Sowed Up"

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link

every swishahouse release is basically the same thing, quality and content-wise. the final chapter 2k4 is out now, too. they've gone back to putting the freestyle first then the full song after it, which is minor but better, and paul wall is back with swishahouse and all over their new stuff.

the new z-ro is out, too, life of joseph mcvey. he's truly the most underrated rapper in the south, i think. and not really a regular, post-screw houston guy, even though he was a marginal SUC member. he's sort of serious and scarface-y and stuff. i think he's still in jail, too, for a probation violation thing! he was about to set up a 2004 geto boys with bun b and scarface and, i think, slim thug.

new color changing click, back to the future, just the newest ccc mixtape, the second one without paul wall, regular ccc solidness. chamilion's mixtape messiah is coming soon, just a plain old mixtape but has everyone excited because of the slow jamz freestyle. and his greatest hits is still pretty recent and good.

yung-ro - undergrind, liveola - programmed to wreck, og ron c - paid in full mixtape, paul wall and lil flip - u gotta feel us (all the leaked lil flip stuff and some of the stuff from paul wall's major label thing that's coming out), the extended version of lil flip's clover gs mixtape, there's the boss hawg outlaws allstars mixtape from the end of last year, lots of stuff.

cloverlandthug, Wednesday, 4 February 2004 05:57 (eighteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

what are the other landmark houston burners besides 25 lighters? i'm a herb, is there another thread with houston recc's/youtubes?

brimstead, Saturday, 13 July 2013 20:24 (eight years ago) link

Big T ft. Lil Flip - 'Candy On Chrome' (My favourite Flip verse ever. It's so cool.)
Yungstar - 'We Got Plex'
ESG and Slim Thug - 'Down Here'
Big Pokey ft. Big Moe - 'My Boo'
Lil Flex - 'Lights, Camera, Action

Listening to these right now

brimstead, Saturday, 13 July 2013 20:25 (eight years ago) link

Fat pat!

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 13 July 2013 20:56 (eight years ago) link

swang and swang and swang to the left

regular speed of candy on chrome (brimstead), Saturday, 13 July 2013 22:04 (eight years ago) link

1. street military - dead in a year ***
2. .380 - elbows swang ***
3. 5th ward boyz - down ass zaggin ***
4. point blank - my mind went blank ***
5. blac monks - buddha nature ***
6. ganksta nip - smokin amp ***
7. lil keke - southside ***
8. fat pat - body rock ***
9. guerilla maab - turning lane ***
10. h.a.w.k. - roll up a blunt ft big moe, big pokey ***
12. big moe - choppaz ft d-gotti, d-wreck ***
13. big pokey - range rover ft big steve ***
14. big t - candy on chrome ft lil flip ***
15. woss ness - threes and fours ***
16. big jut - only live once ft ronnie spencer ***
17. botany boyz - cloverland ***
18. yungstar - knockin pictures off the wall ***
19. lil keke - worlwide playaz ft south park mexican, mr. 3-2 ***
20. dat boy grace - crumbs to bricks ft lil t ***
21. e.s.g. ft lil flip - realest rhymin ***
22. big mello - back do' akshun ***
23. z-ro - look what you did to me ***

dylannn, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 07:28 (eight years ago) link

narrow slice of a narrow time period 90something to 2000? only album tracks

dylannn, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 07:29 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ8DXCLIeBM

dylannn, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 07:29 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLWJIU3f0tY

after the concert i got hoes to screw

dylannn, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 07:35 (eight years ago) link

Ohhhh loving those album cuts. Ive heard five or six like NIP, 5th Ward, Keke, Fat Pat and Maab. Point Blank track is really fresh to me atm.

caek da killa (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 18 July 2013 05:38 (eight years ago) link

flip flips the 'ask beavis i get nothing but head' big l line on 'candy on chrome'!!!! is there an earlier precedent?

viacom dios, Thursday, 18 July 2013 05:55 (eight years ago) link

ws just listening to point blank

rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 18 July 2013 06:48 (eight years ago) link

damn thank you dylannn. i am going to listen to all this tomorrow. only know cloverland (from screw chapter 130), love it.

regular speed of candy on chrome (brimstead), Saturday, 20 July 2013 04:03 (eight years ago) link

yeah i just remembered that's actually on 3 n the morning and so is the point blank track.

dylannn, Saturday, 20 July 2013 04:06 (eight years ago) link

1. terrorists - blow dem hoes up ***
2. pharaoh - about being woke ***
3. convicts - 1-900-dial-a-crook ft scarface, lil j ***
4. aggravated - fuck em all ft k-rino ***
5. spm / al-d - dirty third ***
6. d of trinity garden cartel - straight texas hoodlum ***
7. wreckless klan ***
8. psk-13 - 13 wayz ft k-rino ***
9. mr 3-2 - comin down ***
10. z-ro - dedicated 2 u ***
11. c-note - hold it down ***
12. d-gotti - day to ball ft big moe, yungstar ***
13. herschelwood hardheadz - homies ***
14. e.s.g. - grippin grain ft slim thug ***

dylannn, Saturday, 20 July 2013 04:47 (eight years ago) link

-- "grippin grain" must have been the first time i heard slim thug. i probably wrote about it a long time ago. alltime summer cruise track.

-- when i heard suga free, the first comparison that came to mind was mr. 3-2.

-- "1-900-dial-a-crook," i forgot that even existed. predates master p's instructions on baking soda/pyrex by 6 years, predates "1-900-hustler" by 9 years.

dylannn, Saturday, 20 July 2013 04:54 (eight years ago) link

3-2 has been on so many albums and i know next to nothing about him. he was in convicts with big mike doing rock hard houston gangster rap, then he was in blac monks doing weird mystical tomb raider rap over funky early 90s mike dean beats, then maybe he was in southside playaz with some screwed up click members, then he went solo and the last time he came out he was on some hardcore gang-affiliated imagery....

dylannn, Saturday, 20 July 2013 05:04 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOTjxpQZ5h8

dylannn, Saturday, 20 July 2013 05:07 (eight years ago) link

fat pat, big pokey, e.s.g., moe over "friends," pat shouting out weasel, who put a price on his head over some bullshit around the show, "hottest in the game / put blades on a diesel / got real live with my nigga fuckin weasel."

the full show isn't on youtube but it's something to hear, if you can find it.

dylannn, Saturday, 20 July 2013 05:12 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pETWFyO_ATs

STREET MILITARY

dylannn, Saturday, 20 July 2013 05:16 (eight years ago) link

love it man

( (brimstead), Saturday, 20 July 2013 20:31 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, pretty much what Ben said. Most Houston rap really isn't that good to bother with.

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:40 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

almost worth inviting back so we can FP em to smithereens

Neanderthal, Saturday, 20 July 2013 20:40 (eight years ago) link

man, "Range rover" is funky as hell. everyone nails each verse too.

i'm really digging most of this shit, thx again dylannn.

( (brimstead), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 21:08 (eight years ago) link

if you want to get deep:

http://www.youtube.com/user/WGFproductionz/search?query=houston

some really obscure records mixed up with regional hits

dylannn, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 21:35 (eight years ago) link

like... it just changed from a tiger to a black guy! from the really obscure category.

dylannn, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 21:37 (eight years ago) link

tears came from making this in the regional hits category... i've heard that song on screw tapes, sampled for hooks, lyrics interpolated couple dozen times...

dylannn, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 21:39 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKz33Lr3dEw

there it is
SEE MY HOMIES IN THE STREET
SEE THEY KNOW WHAT I MEAN

dylannn, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 21:39 (eight years ago) link

I'm a happy owner of the "don't give a damn" CD. Flawless EP.

sisilafami, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 22:39 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6noYdxx0wU

sisilafami, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 22:51 (eight years ago) link

fxck

sisilafami, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 22:51 (eight years ago) link

swishahouse LET YA NUTS HANG

dylannn, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 23:04 (eight years ago) link

not really in the spirit of this thread but all the fuck action mixes are on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD7A6Ob7zho

"i was drunk and it was my birthday anyway"

dylannn, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 23:07 (eight years ago) link

i forgot that slowed down r&b is the greatest invention of the last 50 years. the jagged edge/aaliyah/alicia keys run on that.

dylannn, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 23:13 (eight years ago) link

http://nattymari-unfortunate-events.blogspot.ie/2009/04/victoria-secret-drawls.html

^this is good, esp. if ur new to this stuff, what dylannn calls the "blue-collar" side of houston rap. mp3 is still live. for best results follow it with the 12 min dj screw "swangin & bangin" from codiene fiend.

zvookster, Thursday, 25 July 2013 01:37 (eight years ago) link

nah man i think the blue collar strain is the next generation back from screwed up click: street military and affiliates, point blank, kb, southpark coalition and affiliates, terrorists, k-rino, .380, wreckless klan. all the screwed up click guys are promethazineswilling layabouts.

dylannn, Thursday, 25 July 2013 02:30 (eight years ago) link

ah ok. i knew street military were keystones to it for u but thx for the list & distinction :D

zvookster, Thursday, 25 July 2013 03:46 (eight years ago) link

first generation -> working legit jobs, hanging out at barbecues or in jail
second generation -> putting out sequels to sequels of late-90s/early-2000s hits, trying to ingratiate themselves with paul wall or dead

dylannn, Thursday, 25 July 2013 05:02 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

https://youtu.be/Q5gCH8Nc4EA

still loving this, makes me want to become a worse person

j., Wednesday, 18 March 2015 00:58 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Lol right

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 6 April 2015 22:16 (seven years ago) link

still bump the two cd-rs i made out of dylannn's recs on the reg.

brimstead, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 02:14 (seven years ago) link

the big moe album on which "choppaz" appears (city of syrup) is pretty solid.

brimstead, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 02:18 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgGGRAhYR_M

dylannn, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 07:34 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44nKCHLynVs

dylannn, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 07:35 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_XnJ3yhF9s

livin our life wrong cause wwasn't supposed to live long

dylannn, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 07:44 (seven years ago) link

seven years pass...

nice, really like southside gliding

Spottie, Thursday, 23 June 2022 15:44 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgYA_0rbFhE

ANU (sisilafami), Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:03 (one week ago) link

meant to post this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoZpo_sV-Pw

ANU (sisilafami), Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:04 (one week ago) link


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