Anyone know what LABRADFORD is up to?

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It's been too long since Labradford's "Fixed::Content" came out. What's taking so fucking long?? I want more!

King Kobra (King Kobra), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Pan American, I suspect....

roger adultery, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Still looking for a copy of 'Ralf & Florian', I suspect

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 06:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i really don't get that second comment.

King Kobra (King Kobra), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

it's a bad joke, not much to "get."

Last I heard, Carter and his wife recently had a kid, so that's probably a major factor.

hstencil, Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link

(pan-american is a Mark Nelson side project)

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah and I think he still lives in Illinois whereas Bobby and Carter still live in Virginia, so there you go.

hstencil, Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry for the bad joke there.. I was listening to Kraftwerk 2 at the time and couldn't believe the similarities I was hearing.

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 16 October 2003 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh. You think Kraftwerk 2 sounds like Labradford, huh? I haven't heard that record. Maybe I'll check it out. Ned's AMG review doesn't make it sound similar, but I suppose it's worth a shot.

King Kobra (King Kobra), Monday, 20 October 2003 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, to these ears it sounds at times eerily like 'Mi Media Aranja' era Labradford. Do check it out!

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Baaderist is right. "Strom" = Labradford, but 20 years before.

Damian (Damian), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:46 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Any news on this?

King Kobra (King Kobra), Friday, 2 April 2004 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

A new Pan American album, Quiet City is supposed to come out this year - presumably in the fall, since it is not among Kranky's scheduled releases for spring.

Curt (cgould), Friday, 2 April 2004 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
what about now?

King Kobra (King Kobra), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 02:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Quiet City is pretty good, if you haven't heard it yet. Sounds exactly as you'd expect

DJ Mencap0))), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 10:29 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
so did these guys break up? their last album was fucking great

Gimme Fuel, Friday, 1 July 2005 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

if Labradford's extended hiatus proves to be unfortunately permanent, Beequeen's The Bodyshop might soothe the ache. and now is as good a time as any for all good ILMers to fall madly in love with Ultra Milkmaids.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 1 July 2005 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

WOW! That beequeen album sounds fuckin' great on Allmusic's samples. Please YSI that shit!

Gimme Fuel, Friday, 1 July 2005 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

May I also recommend the glorious Languis...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 July 2005 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm... languis doesn't sound much like Labradford to these ears

Gimme Fuel, Friday, 1 July 2005 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, Languis?

try Rothko, Fuel. anything pre-Too Pure, like the "Storm Cycle" 10", either of the Lo Recordings CDs, and the cdr on Burning Shed. they will not disappoint.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Friday, 1 July 2005 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

If this hiatus is permanent, then "Fixed:context" deserves a mention on the "Bands who split after releasing their best work" thread.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 2 July 2005 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Fixed: context is better than MI Media Naranja? I guess I will to pick that one up!

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

It's good, but i still like their s/t "white" album best. Man, I really oughta dig that out, thanks for reminding me! It'll be perfect on this here road trip I'm bout to go on. Gobble gobble!

roger, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I was a bit disappointed by the one between Naranja and Fixed:Content, so never bothered to check out the latter. Should I?

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Ultra Milkmaids seconded for music like this.

sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Isn't it called "Fixed:Context"?

It's really good. I miss them.

I think Carter and his wife live in the Phillipines now and Bobby is the only one in Virginia. I could be wrong but that's the last I heard.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I believe the one before Fixed:context was E Luxo So.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, that's the one. a bit boring I thought

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Thursday, 24 November 2005 09:19 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...
So I guess the final verdict on this band is that they broke up? A real shame.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Sunday, 4 June 2006 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Indeed? A pity indeed but so many great albums, and the one time I saw them live was wonderful.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 June 2006 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

The one time I saw them live was opening up for Superchunk in 1994 or 1995 and they got a couple of shoes thrown at them. I respected how they persevered in the face of such outright hostility. That was before quiet became the new loud.

Jacobo Rock (jacobo rock), Monday, 5 June 2006 04:54 (fourteen years ago) link

There was another Pan American album was released after Quiet City - I seem to recall that the Labradford guys were scattered around the country now and that another album was "unlikely"

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Yes, that's the one. a bit boring I thought

no.

Dog/Face/Chain (res), Thursday, 23 October 2008 00:44 (eleven years ago) link

yes

baaderonixx, Thursday, 23 October 2008 07:51 (eleven years ago) link

no

allez, allons-y, on y va (ledge), Thursday, 23 October 2008 10:13 (eleven years ago) link

yes

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 23 October 2008 11:14 (eleven years ago) link

no

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 October 2008 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

yes

NickB, Thursday, 23 October 2008 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

duh, I mean no

NickB, Thursday, 23 October 2008 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

haha

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 23 October 2008 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

poll?

baaderonixx, Thursday, 23 October 2008 13:29 (eleven years ago) link

It's slow, contemplative music. There are no pyrotechnics and leather-pants. Perhaps boring for some tastes, but in my book Labradford-- particularly on their last 3 albums-- is among the most interesting and affecting bands I've ever heard.

Dog/Face/Chain (res), Thursday, 23 October 2008 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

Well upthread I was just saying how I found E Luxo So pretty boring as compared say to Mi Media Naranja.

baaderonixx, Friday, 24 October 2008 07:33 (eleven years ago) link

Fixed: Content: The Cat's Pajamas

Pillbox, Saturday, 25 October 2008 08:07 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Quiet City on a grey october sunday afternoon

spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Sunday, 11 October 2009 15:12 (ten years ago) link

E Luxo So is a good album imho

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Sunday, 11 October 2009 15:46 (ten years ago) link

That it is. Might play it here myself (it's a grey October Sunday morning).

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 October 2009 15:48 (ten years ago) link

nice

cutty, Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:00 (ten years ago) link

Fixed:Context > Mi Media Naranja > E Luxo So > the self-titled with the white cover > the earlier two albums

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:32 (ten years ago) link

so the "single" sounds very good. Didn't realize I'd been missing these guys. Might be time for me to pick up 'Fixed:Content'

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 10:51 (six years ago) link

I was shocked that there was going to be a reunion, until i realized it's not quite a reunion. :(

Fixed:Context is phenomenal, you gotta get that.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:16 (six years ago) link

Yeah, two out of three with a different name is no reunion. Still: close enough!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:24 (six years ago) link

The new track does not sound like Labradford much. Sounds more like Pan-American or Stars of the Lid.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:25 (six years ago) link

Yeah not only is it not a reunion, but the same three guys made the last Pan American album, Cloud Room, Glass Room. I'm still excited for it.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:28 (six years ago) link

Anyone who loves Labradford but hasn't kept up with Pan American is missing some really nice albums, btw: Quiet City and White Bird Release are both very Labradford-esque.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:30 (six years ago) link

I was going to say! Don't sleep on those.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:32 (six years ago) link

my recollection is that the Pan-American stuff is a lot more ambient and doesn't have that Lynchian/Duane Eddy-esque guitar reverb guitar thing going on. Is that right?

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:33 (six years ago) link

Yeah, dubbier, too.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:33 (six years ago) link

Listening to Cloud Room for the first time right now and loving it.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:36 (six years ago) link

Pan American and 360 Business/360 Bypass - dubby ambient
The River Made No Sound - less dubby, more like minimal electronic
Quiet City and White Bird Release - traditional instruments have a much bigger presence. Not really electronic records at all.
For Waiting, For Chasing - sort of in between River and White Bird - more ambient, but Stephen Hess is there with percussion on a lot of it.

I wrote about all of these records, and all of Labradford's records, and a bunch of other Kranky records - you can see the archive by artist here. Cloud Room, Glass Room is the only one I haven't got to yet.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:42 (six years ago) link

Yeah, read pgwp's work on Kranky, it's been stellar.

MEANTIME

I have a promo of this Anjou release via official sources and I will say no more beyond noting it's a real beauty.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:49 (six years ago) link

Just remembered that Donne did the soundtrack of an indie film last year called Hide Your Smiling Faces that was pretty excellent. The soundtrack, that is. The movie had some issues.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 22:57 (six years ago) link

On a lark I made a Labradford primer playlist - though I suppose anyone in this thread already knows.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 24 July 2014 04:43 (six years ago) link

I will appreciate this playlist, thank you

boxedjoy, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:44 (six years ago) link

S/T came on shuffle for me yesterday. I love that record. So spooky and beautiful. Mid-Range is amazing.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 July 2014 02:16 (six years ago) link

Just got into Labradford a few months ago. I didn't really click with the first couple of albums but the self titled onwards is a great run of albums. E Luxo So is probably my current favourite but it keeps changing. Seems like my timing was pretty good getting into them.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 25 July 2014 02:39 (six years ago) link

I've been a Labradford fan for 15 years, but I still don't like/get/appreciate their first 3 albums, which apparently a lot of people think are their best.

Poliopolice, Friday, 25 July 2014 13:37 (six years ago) link

I think each album grows out of the last, and that they really hit upon their path with the s/t album, perfected it with Mi Media Naranja, took an interesting left turn on E Luxo So, and then made what is essentially the quintessential "Labradford" album with Fixed::Context. Which is to say I can pretty much appreciate why anyone would name any of their albums their favorite, especially from s/t forward.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 26 July 2014 21:07 (six years ago) link

I've been a Labradford fan for 15 years, but I still don't like/get/appreciate their first 3 albums, which apparently a lot of people think are their best.

It's been a while since I've listened to the later albums - is the 4th one where they essentially became an instrumental group? I feel like the vocals sort of mark the divide between fans of the first 3 and people who don't like them.

oblique blasphemies (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 July 2014 21:21 (six years ago) link

There are vocals on the 1st, 3rd, and 4th albums - I can't remember if any vocals show up on the last two.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 26 July 2014 23:04 (six years ago) link

Or... I think there are vocals on the fourth?? Suddenly it's all running together in my head.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 26 July 2014 23:04 (six years ago) link

Spending the morning listening to the last four Pan American albums in a row... this is a very nice feeling.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 8 August 2014 16:59 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Anjou is now available... stores, spotify, iTunes, etc.

I'm on my second spin. Very minimal. Fans of Nelson's past work will like it though to me it doesn't sound much like Labradford, if that's the expectation. For one, Nelson doesn't play guitar on this album.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:16 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

And a new Anjou album coming soon, here's the first track:

https://soundcloud.com/kranky/anjou-soucouyant

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 January 2017 15:25 (three years ago) link

Nice track. Wasn't even aware of Anjou!

Labradford are a band I keep coming back to - something in the stately progress, that sense of metallic dust in abandoned rooms... I always listen to them on planes, for some reason.

Anyway, don't see a reference to the Aix Em Klemm album anywhere on the thread. It's got Robert Donne on it (with him off Stars of the Lid, Adam Wiltzie), and is quietly magnificent in its way.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Monday, 16 January 2017 12:46 (three years ago) link

Aix Em Klemm album is up there with both Labradford and SotL's best works imho.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 16 January 2017 13:03 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that's a great record.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 16 January 2017 19:37 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Had forgotten how great Mi Media Naranja is.

djh, Monday, 6 August 2018 20:31 (two years ago) link

I had my clear preferences as they came out, but despite still having favorites, whenever I return to the entire body of work I have a harder time designating one significantly better than the others.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 August 2018 20:37 (two years ago) link

Mi Media Naranja is the one.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 6 August 2018 21:11 (two years ago) link

Fixed Conent is a close second, but yes.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 6 August 2018 21:15 (two years ago) link

*Context

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 6 August 2018 21:16 (two years ago) link

x-posts.

Yeah, I can see that. I wouldn't be able to make a coherent argument that MMN is "the best" though it's the one I most frequently return to. "Fixed: Context" is sounding good, right now.

djh, Monday, 6 August 2018 21:16 (two years ago) link

I think each album grows out of the last, and that they really hit upon their path with the s/t album, perfected it with Mi Media Naranja, took an interesting left turn on E Luxo So, and then made what is essentially the quintessential "Labradford" album with Fixed::Context. Which is to say I can pretty much appreciate why anyone would name any of their albums their favorite, especially from s/t forward.

― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, July 26, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was going to rank all the Labradford albums but then I wondered if I did that already in this thread and I came across what I said 4 years ago which is essentially still true.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 03:31 (two years ago) link

In any case:

1. Labradford: Mi Media Naranja
2. Labradford: Fixed::Context
3. Pan American: Quiet City
4. Labradford: s/t
5. Pan American: s/t
6. Labradford: E Luxo So
7. Pan American: 360 Business / 360 Bypass
8. Aix Em Klemm: s/t
9. Pan American: Cloud Room, Glass Room
10. Anjou: s/t
11. Anjou: Epithymia
12. Pan American: White Bird Release
13. Labradford: A Stable Reference
14. Pan American: The River Made No Sound
15. Pan American: White Bird Release
16. Pan American: For Waiting, For Chasing
17. Labradford: Prazision

I like all of these records.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 03:46 (two years ago) link

I rate A Stable Reference a lot higher, but that may just be because it was the first one I heard. S/t is usually my go-to. Haven't listened to Pan American in forever, should remedy that.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 12:18 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

I was just listening to Fixed: : Context last night and swooning all over again. Then I see today that Pan American has a new album coming out in November! I hope Mark Nelson makes records forever.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:04 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Well I’m lukewarm on the new Pan American. Lots of guitar, lots of vocals—maybe if you really miss the earliest Labradford albums you will find something to enjoy here. Pan American was feeling almost like a band for a while—I guess that’s sorta what morphed into Anjou. This new album is a return to a solo/side project feel, to my ears.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 14 November 2019 20:20 (ten months ago) link

The last Anjou album was beautiful

I love Labradford but have never connected with any of Mark's solo work. Dunno why

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 14 November 2019 20:55 (ten months ago) link

I was listening to "A Stable Reference" on headphones the other day, and noticed for the first time (as far as I remember) the stereo bouncing of quiet cricket chirps from channel to channel.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 November 2019 21:14 (ten months ago) link

Paul, I said it up thread more than once but give Quiet City a try, if you haven’t before.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 14 November 2019 23:56 (ten months ago) link

I will! I've lost track of him these past few years but I'm usually open to hearing anything from any of these guys. I think what I never really dug in Pan Am's music was the aspirations to 'dub,'which I never found very convincing

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 14 November 2019 23:59 (ten months ago) link

He left the dub vibe behind after the second album.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 15 November 2019 00:01 (ten months ago) link

The last one I heard was either The River Made No Sound or that split CD with Frank Bretschneider

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 15 November 2019 00:11 (ten months ago) link

This is really nice! The whole album with the accompanying film is up on Youtube. "Het Volk" is almost ECM-y (but maybe it's the horns). Enjoying this much more than any of the stuff I'd heard previously (which, tbf, was many years ago). Thanks!

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 15 November 2019 00:19 (ten months ago) link

Yeah Het Volk and Lights of Little Towns are both so lovely. Glad you like it!

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 15 November 2019 00:49 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

Seeing Pan*American this Saturday at the International Museum of Surgical Science!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 January 2020 22:13 (eight months ago) link

Show was super cool, Mark Nelson is great at looping stuff. It did get a bit distracting that by the end most people were sitting on the floor. That, and the two dudes front and center absolutely tripping balls. One guy looked kind of like a chill hiker or tacky-sacker or something. He kept staring at his hands or pawing at or petting his pal, who was this giant bearded hulk of a man who largely remained absolutely still. Basically looked like a wiggly Han Solo and Chewbacca. Anyway, I was impressed that despite it all they still largely respected personal space, to the best of their abilities. The smaller guy even made a couple of trips to the bar for wine, which ... is maybe not the choice I would have made. But he didn't spill it, said excuse me, smiled at people, and yeah, the person next to him had to scoot a bit when he finally, awkwardly sat down, but it's not like he was rolling around.

Anyway, the show was a beaut. Nelson switched between guitar, lap steel and dulcimer, each dripping with echo and other effects. The austere setting only added to the effect.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 13:08 (eight months ago) link


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