Squeeze: Classic Or Dud

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Pub-pop classic or drab dud? Over to you...

Tom, Saturday, 27 January 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I hardly know any of their music. I do like "Up The Junction", though.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 29 January 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

People don't even seem interested enough to chime in on this one, so it's looks like a sub-dud. I liked almost all the songs on the singles comp a lot, but I haven't listened to it in probably five years.

Mark Richardson, Wednesday, 31 January 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it seems Squeeze are a forgotten band. Which is interesting in itself. Anyway I think the singles compilation is muscular and fine.

Tom, Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

This is one of those times when I'm not sure how good something is (in this case, the band) but do know that the singles comp is one of those albums you put on and get taken away to a special place. So: Classic for nostolgia.

JM, Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
Classic!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 20 February 2001 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
singles 45s and under was one of those perennial favorites of late-eighties american college kids (along with bob marley's legend or bat out of hell). so i wonder if one of the reasons why there is a dearth of posts is because those of us in my age group just got exhausted with them.

anyway, they were classic in their first incarnation -- after east side story, the quality drops off even faster than post-dance gary numan. what made squeeze pretty interesting is how they were at their best when they had one foot in the pub and the other in the studio, as opposed to being strictly one or the other. which may be why i like the first two (but esp. cool for cats) best -- they sound exactly like a bar-band that's been let loose in a fancy studio, only it works ("slap and tickle," "take me i'm yours," "goodbye girl.")

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 06:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Unleashed J Holland on the world, whatever yr take on implications of that

dave q, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 06:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

j holland got away with saying the f word on national TV one decade before slash and two decades before bono!

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 06:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

after east side story, the quality drops off even faster than post-dance gary numan

Only briefly. Their mid 80s output hardly consisted of masterpieces, but their, mostly overlooked, 90s output was mostly just as brilliant as the "Cool For Cats"/"Argybargy"/"East Side Story" trilogy

Of course, "hipsters" would accuse them of sounding dated, which is bullshit because they were kind of retro oriented already during the late 70s.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh please, people, Squeeze are undeniably classic.

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Squeeze, during their Cool For Cats/Argybargy/East Side Story peak, are among the best pop/rock bands of all time. CLASSIC!

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

A band that is quite good is The Squeeze.

10 Roddington Place, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Of course, "hipsters" would accuse them of sounding dated"
i find that hard to believe. i was listening to the singles 45s and under LP just last week and my friends and i were surprised at how well the sound had held up. i suppose you can't put an expiration date on a kickass hook though (unless you're eiffel 65).

Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Almost ever worse than background music... and then yes, you gotcher "Cool for Cats" type cuts that just make your ass shake in that arched-eyebrow drunken low-class WASP kinda way... CLASSIC

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 21:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'd take fucking "If It's Love" over half the shit ILM talks about.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 01:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...
Quite good.

the squeezefox, Sunday, 22 August 2004 23:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

total genius classic I was listening to Singles 45 and under yesterday it is amazing and one of my favorite albums (so is Bat Out Of Hell, coincidentally)

Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Sunday, 22 August 2004 23:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

One of those bands that I never got around to purchasing. I always enjoyed what I did hear and the Difford-Tillbrook "Tempted By The Fruit Of Aother" is absolutely grebt.

Question:

Are U.K. Squeeze and Squeeze the same?

jim wentworth (wench), Monday, 23 August 2004 00:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yep.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Elvis Costello thanked them in his Rock n Roll Hall of Fame speech, talking about the greatest British songwriters- Lennon/McCartney, (I forget who 2nd), and Difford Tillbrook.
They wrote great songs that don't sound dated (but some have been killed by radio play, particularly tempted, black coffee, and pulling mussels).
And, Ott is OTM- my fave song by them was always "If It's Love"!
Classic.

mclaugh (mclaugh), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It's really nice of Elvis that he said that.

the bellefox, Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

god that's weird.
i woke up in the *middle of the night* last night wondering suddenly
'hey how come i don't have any squeeze at all?'
i settled on thinking i'd get 'SINGLES 45...' and have done with it.

are the first couple of albums worth getting?
which one *specifically*?

piscesboy, Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
did they ever do anything else like "take me, i'm yours"

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:29 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Cool for Cats" has that kind of farty synth sound.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 28 May 2006 22:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

take me im yours is always in my head

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 28 May 2006 23:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've never met anyone who owned an album by them other than "Singles 45" (or maybe the later CD-era comp). Why is that?

pleased to mitya (mitya), Monday, 29 May 2006 00:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Slap and Tickle" is the same kind of synth pop sound.

And the band is CLASSIC of course.

zeus (zeus), Monday, 29 May 2006 12:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"I've never met anyone who owned an album by them other than "Singles 45" (or maybe the later CD-era comp). Why is that?"

Because we've never met. I have each Squeeze albums until 'Babylon And On', plus 'Ridiculous'. It's a fact, though, that after 'East Side Story' their songwriting quality gets worse.

zeus (zeus), Monday, 29 May 2006 12:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

classic, and it's criminal how much of their catalog is out-of-print in the states

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Monday, 29 May 2006 12:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

How's the Difford-Tillbrook solo album?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 29 May 2006 12:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Very classic. And their 90s work is terribly underrated.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 29 May 2006 12:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i have ARGY BARGY which i guess id worth some money. its a good album!

chaki (chaki), Monday, 29 May 2006 19:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Hourglass. Classic.

neustile (neustile), Monday, 29 May 2006 20:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i've got argybargy and east side story.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 29 May 2006 20:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The solo album is excellent though very much a product of it's time. Stylistically not too dissimilar to 'Babylon and on' but much, much better songs. Don't think it's available on cd though.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 29 May 2006 20:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...
don't they do that song about milk?

s1ocki, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

I hardly know any of their music. I do like "Up The Junction", though.
-- Robin Carmody, Monday, 29 January 2001 01:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

^^^this dude was drinking some Incorrect Juice when he made this post.

"Pulling Mussels From A Shell" is a banger, though.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 15:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

Classic, of course.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 17:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

just heard up the junction
ca-lassic

Meteor Crater (jdchurchill), Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

up the junction does really interesting things with the idea of time-lapse in narrative within the context of the 3-minute pop-song, no joke

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

also yeah it is k-classic although goodbye girl might be even better

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

i started screaming tempted in staples a while back. many heads turned

FACK, Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hmmm, just listening to their BBC Sessions...surprised to find myself really liking the opening handful of tracks, which keep reminding me (in a general way) of a mishmash of Vapors, Vibrators, and maybe early Adam Ant. Less aggressive, for sure, but definitely in that vein.

dlp9001, Friday, 11 December 2009 03:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

I absolutely love Squeeze. Up the Junction is amazing - yes. Also love Annie Get Yr Gun, Goodbye Girl, Another Nail in my Heart all of the big singles really.

★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Friday, 11 December 2009 03:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

true story: my dad and my uncle gigged with squeeze and lent them their stuff

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Friday, 11 December 2009 03:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Slap & Tickle is my jam, Cool For Cats is my album. Love it but never warmed to the others beyond the singles.

sleeve, Friday, 11 December 2009 03:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Some people turn their nose up at them simply due to the Jools Holland connection, which is a shame. Far less consistent than the likes of XTC, yet their finest material - most of which is non-singles, believe it or not - more than compensates for the intermittent failed pop experiments and stylistic wrong-turns.

PaulTMA, Monday, 28 December 2009 15:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

Heard Up the Junction in the car today and god damn that is one of the best songs ever, no question. <3 <3 <3

★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 31 December 2009 02:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

Classic for the "Hourglass" video alone

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 31 December 2009 03:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

I haven't listened to anything past Argybargy but right now I don't think they've topped "Goodbye Girl", such a cool, wonky tune

frogbs, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:05 (five years ago) Permalink

"Vicky Verky" is the classic for me

some dude, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

^Yeah, I love that one, too.

Trip Maker, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

ok this Hammersmith Odeon set is good but jesus Difford singing "Mess Around" stfu

some dude, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Tempted is a very, very bad song.

Poliopolice, Friday, 25 May 2012 16:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I really love Cool For Cats, Argybargy and East Side Story, and a few selections here and there from what came after. I remember quite liking Glenn Tilbrook's solo record Transatlantic Ping Pong, too.

The first album is quite interesting though, and some of the stories surrounding its making are quite funny. John Cale apparently was so off his face he passed out during the sessions, so Jools Holland wrote "I am a cunt" on his forehead in marker. Apparently Mr. Cale was none the wiser and came into the studio STILL wearing the same slogan on his head the next day. Once he found out what the band were laughing at, he was understandably not amused and apparently he made life hell for the band for the rest of the studio time they had.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Tempted is a very, very bad song.

It's not their greatest, but it's not terrible when Tilbrook sings it. Paul Carrack always felt like an invader in this band, and that's the reason I have issues with both East Side Story and Some Fantastic Place.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 May 2012 17:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I'd rather Carrack had sang the whole thing, he's a far superior singer to Tilbrook. Tilbrook's strengths is in the way he puts his chord sequences together. Stuff like 'King George Street' features a maddening amount of chords.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 25 May 2012 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Guess who I'm gonna see tonight? :D

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:09 (five years ago) Permalink

i saw them open for the b-52's two weeks ago and they were both so so good

radical ferry (donna rouge), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:36 (five years ago) Permalink

just gonna warn you now tho: glenn tillbrook's facial hair is really unfortunate

radical ferry (donna rouge), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:36 (five years ago) Permalink

They are opening for the B-52s tonight! I'm excited about both but a little more so about Squeeze tbh. LOL re Tillbrook's facial hair. I checked out a recent clip on youtube and noticed that myself. NAGL!

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:39 (five years ago) Permalink

They are playing for free in Coney Island on the 20th, with The Romantics opening.

aforementioned UFH:

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2012/07/2012_seaside_su.html

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:20 (five years ago) Permalink

band I was in opened for Squeeze in 1982.

schicksalsschlag (doo dah), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:30 (five years ago) Permalink

That is assume doo dah! Ok so that was awesome. They sounded great but a) donna r otm that beard is so so bad and b) middle aged white people cutting loose is sort of horrifying to watch.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Like really cringe worthy and the worst part is that I AK not sure how to avoid turning into that or if it is even possible. :/

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:25 (five years ago) Permalink

I am not I AK.

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:26 (five years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Poor Glen, one he had the good fortune to have John Lennon's looks and way with a pop song. Now he looks like Col Sanders on a bad beard day

Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:16 (five years ago) Permalink

that Docu was great on the bbc over the weekend. they had some MENTAL issues though.

piscesx, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:21 (five years ago) Permalink

The beard is gone now btw

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 11:26 (five years ago) Permalink

i thought chris difford looked great considering all his past indulgences.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 11:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Here's the legit link, higher quality and with the correct aspect ratio -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01n8kmq

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:08 (five years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

New single 'Tommy' is streaming, now:
http://soundcloud.com/squeezeofficial-1/01-tommy

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Friday, 9 November 2012 18:05 (five years ago) Permalink

My favourite Squeeze story is still the one where Jools Holland wrote 'I am a cunt' on the forehead of a passed-out John Cale during the first album sessions. I noticed THAT story was absent from the recent documentary! Hehehehe!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Sunday, 11 November 2012 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Every so often (like tonight) I'll find myself digging out Cosi Fan Tutti Fruitti in an attempt to listen to it with fresh ears and see if I manage to catch anything I've missed or possibly find something in it that I never have before, but I always end up coming to the same conclusion: 'King George Street' and 'Last Time Forever' = keepers, rest of the album = does nothing for me.

I also really am not too keen on the production on Cosi, either - which is strange because Laurie Latham (who produced Cosi) worked on The Stranglers' Aural Sculpture only the year before, and I think that album sounds absolutely fine!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:08 (four years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

the solo on "Another Nail in My Heart" is some virtuoso shit. still can't figure it out after three years. amazing song

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 20:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, Tilbrook has always been quite an underrated guitarist. Always love the way he manages 2 pack so many chords in2 his songs, 2.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 20:51 (one year ago) Permalink

That one's got some real Dire Straits shit going on.

everything, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:03 (one year ago) Permalink

What do Squeeze fans think of their first EP, Packet of Three? Is it well known at all? It wasn't on Single 45's and Under presumably because it was on Deptford Fun City not A&M. I can imagine it being dismissed since it's got a punkier, or at least pub-rockier, sound to it, but I quite like it, Night Ride in particular.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:17 (one year ago) Permalink

It's alright, Squeeze were never entirely convincing during their brief 'punk' phase. I'd love to hear more recordings of the band prior to their debut, or what was rejected by John Cale - assuming Cool For Cats was all new stuff. There was a first draft of that album which was rejected by the label, though the (not great) song 'Blood And Guts' was released on a compilation.

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:28 (one year ago) Permalink

A new pressing of Packet Of Three was bundled with vinyl copies of A Round And A Bout. The was a live 'Annie Get Your Gun' CD single which may be the one way to get those tracks on CD

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:30 (one year ago) Permalink

I think it's funny that Squeeze blocked Bang Bang - which was a bigger hit chart-wise in the UK than many of their better known songs - from absolutely all future singles/hits albums, due to Tilbrook hating it. I went to see them in 2012 and they OPENED with it. I tweeted Difford to ask what made them bring it back and he said he didn't know

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Eye'm pretty sure that the material on Cool For Cats was drawn from a huge backlog 'o' stuff Difford/Tilbrook had mostly built up prior 2 the first LP. The first LP was mostly written in the studio 2 please John Cale. They had a habit 'o' stockpiling songs and pulling them out years later. Eye think there's one or 2 tracks on later albums which were earlier songs dusted off.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Tilbrook particularly hates 'Get Smart' on that first LP.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:39 (one year ago) Permalink

whoah I had no idea Cale produced that first record, that's nuts.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:40 (one year ago) Permalink

I like Backtrack. I mean, it's a pub-rock ramalama number which really sounds like it wants to be a Nick Lowe record but which I think suits the scruffy production the best. The other two don't do much for me. This didn't seem obscure back in the day though - Deptford Fun City kept issuing it during their later success so it was a pretty common single. I picked up a copy of it from a guy in my high school class and used to see it second hand a lot.

everything, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Some great stories about the first album sessions. Cale made them bin most of their songs and instructed them to write more on new subjects at his request (Strong In Reason), instrumentals (Wild Sewerage Tickles Brazil) and supposedly he had them cover 'Amazing Grace' and play it for several hours. And he told them to title the album 'Gay Guys'. Seems like he got more hardline after he discovered Jools Holland had written "I am a cunt" on his forehead while he was passed out and failed to notice for a couple of days

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:44 (one year ago) Permalink

(on Cale, not himself)

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:45 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, he wanted 2 de-pop everything and demanded the band wrote songs about muscle men.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:50 (one year ago) Permalink

My guitar teacher and I are big fans of secret '80s guitar heroes: Elliot Easton, guy from Squeeze, even Neil Giraldo (solo on "hit me with your best shot" is pretty tricky). Dudes who know how to lay low until just the right spot to show off. Maybe James Honeyman-Scot or Mike Campbell count, too, but plenty of people cite them as an influence. Less so the aforementioned.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 00:43 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

how representative is labelled with love because jesus christ that is an awful dirge

spud called maris (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:14 (six months ago) Permalink

I don't think its representative at all - I can't think of another song they did quite like it. but I do think it's one of their best songs so take that how you will

frogbs, Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:23 (six months ago) Permalink

I agree, awful country pastiche, while Tempted is mighty

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 18 May 2017 13:45 (six months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

apols for the link to you know where but..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-4800220/Squeeze-frontman-Chris-Difford-working-Bryan-Ferry.html

piscesx, Friday, 25 August 2017 10:57 (two months ago) Permalink

Wow.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 August 2017 13:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah that was one crazy story. Or set of them.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 August 2017 13:45 (two months ago) Permalink

whoa @ John Bentley in the Magma shirt, very nice

frogbs, Friday, 25 August 2017 13:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Q mag/Marti Pellow was the 0_o bit for me

piscesx, Friday, 25 August 2017 14:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Sounds like being in the orbit of Bryan Ferry is not for the faint of heart.

DavidLeeRoth, Friday, 25 August 2017 17:11 (two months ago) Permalink


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