Defend Phil Collins

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Go on, I dare ya

Fugs, Monday, 6 October 2003 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Great drummer in early Genesis....critically underrated 80s pop singer...Sussudio and In The Air Tonight are classics...In The Air Tonight is prob. one of my favorite songs of the decade for its Miami Vice, minimal spooky throb and accusatory Phil vox....also really like Turn It On Again by later Genesis.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 6 October 2003 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't he vote Tory, kiss the Queen's bum, do the patronising World of Confusion video, star in "Buster", make an arse out of himself on "Brass Eye" and sing "Dance into the Light", possibly the worst song ever?

Fugs, Monday, 6 October 2003 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

You said defend him, so I did....I'm just saying he's such a cliche "horrible artist" for people to bring up....He's really pretty harmless at worst, and is actually a tremendous musician as a drummer....I've never heard Dance Into the Light, but I doubt it's the worst song ever....

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 6 October 2003 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

He used to be, and most probbly still is, a very good drummer.

(arh, xx-pst)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 6 October 2003 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I probably still think several tracks on 'Hello, I Must Be Going' are good (my sister used to have it). Sussudio and most of the other stuff I've heard from 'No Jacket Required' is a bit rubbish.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 6 October 2003 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

tWt = OTM. search: genesis, eno, fripp, john cale, pshhh even the band aid drumtrack is pretty kicking.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 6 October 2003 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

patrick bateman to thread.

He played drums for Eno.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 6 October 2003 23:29 (seventeen years ago) link

his music's not any worse than Sting or Peter Gabriel, but he's partly reviled by the prog-ites for choosing R&B and Pop over, say Jazz or 4th World or whatever. & if he gets up enough music-snobs' noses, there's probably some good to him!
+ ABACAB on = prog gone new-Pop?

politics-wise I've heard things, but since I don't check him - haven't investigated further (on the other hand, if I lived in the UK...).

Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link

this Trick Of The Tale fan hated Duke at the time though (and never went back). same reaction to Yes - Drama (though "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" sounded fabulous on a dancefloor this past weekend!).

Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

"I don't care any mow-ooh-woh."

calstars (calstars), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link

his band Flaming Youth was fucked up, dude. like, totally fucked. it was like the end of the world and flaming youth tried to explain it all. you know?

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Red Rain captured the Miami Vice vibe better.

Catherine (Catherine), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Not only did he play drums for Eno, he played drums on "No One Receiving," which has the best drumming of any Eno song...

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 03:47 (seventeen years ago) link

"take me home" = underrated great song

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 04:37 (seventeen years ago) link

"no reply at all" is hotttt

Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 05:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I bought Abacab in the dollar bin and am glad I did. Love the title song, and Keep it Dark. Actually I've never played the whole thing. Good drummer. Good vocalist too I guess, if (for a while) overexposed.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link

loads of good songs

anyone remember marcello's freejazz story?

prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 07:00 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~tewing/2003_08_10_singlesa.html#106088432297396329

I was too nice to the Postal Service though.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 07:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Sussudio is atrocious! The place where I had dinner last night played a whole Phil Collins album (couldn't make one which one) and I realised his music has got to be some of the most unintentionally depressing stuff out there.. The voice, the singing, the production, the attempted-funkiness, all make me think of how lonely and empty this world can be..

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 07:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Or, how humane and filled with love.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 07:22 (seventeen years ago) link

"Defend Phil Collins"

Ol' Dirty Bastard and lots of other rap and RnB stars to thread.

Also, Geir needs to be here.

Nick H, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 07:58 (seventeen years ago) link

RFI: Is there really such a thing as the 'Hip Hop Tribute Album to PC'?

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 08:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, he was a member of the best band ever during the 70s, he even sung for them on a couple of their best albums. :-)

Other than that, I still think his first three solo albums have gotten a bit too much criticism. Sure, they aren't quite in the league of Peter Gabriel's solo work (much less in the league of Genesis at their best), but there are lots of great tracks there too. From "But Seriously" onward it was downhill though, and "Dance Into The Light" is probably one of the worst albums ever.

Also, Phil Collins is a magnificent drummer. Maybe his best moment as a drummer is "Intruder" - the opening track on Peter Gabriel's third album.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 08:13 (seventeen years ago) link

There is indeed a hip-hop tribute to Phil Collins. A friend suggested that the hip-hop community respected the "gangsta" way he dealt with his wife's affair with his decorator (ie, an ultra-spiteful appearance on TOTP with a tin of paint on the piano).

'Mama''s quite a good song.

He was a big fan of The Action as a youth.

No, that's it. I've run out of good words to say for him.

Martin Horsfield, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I fail to see the "gangsta" element of that..

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 08:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, old 'onest Phil ain't specifica-ridiculously ashamed of his nice shiny cranium, it seems.
(Which seems to be more of a good than a bad thing, eh? :)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The man does seem relatively articulate in funny in interviews. Also, he often admits how derivative and soulless is music is.
*Over and Out*

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link

On the subject of Suseudio .. my darkly humoured friend had this running joke in which he would know he'd thrown his life away if ever the day came that he found himself smoking crack naked on the bedroom floor listening to Suseudio of all things. 'Could I sink any lower'? I suppose he thought it was the most spiritless song in the history of sound.

mick hall (mick hall), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Back in the old days, Letterman went on and on making fun of Sussudio, even when Collins played it on the show. There was a classic sketch where they went to a fans house and Letterman sat on this teenage girls bed holding up her copy of that Phil Collins album with his orange dome on the cover saying something like "look kids, its Phil Collins, mmmn Sussudio."

I like "Against All Odds", no matter how schmaltzy it may be, although it may be because I had a thing for Rachel Ward when I was a teenager.

earlnash, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

His position in pop culture is solidly entrenched, by virtue of American Psycho, and the whole urban legend surrounding "In the Air Tonight." Is that a defense? Not really.

He is a decent actor, and probably one of the top hundred-thousand drummers in the world.

Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the urban legend surround 'IAT'?

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

What's the urban legend surrounding 'IAT'?

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

The version I heard was that Phil had witnessed a murder and the song was directed at the murderer...However, in "Stan" Eminem says something about the song in reference to how Phil couldn't save someone from drowning, so I guess Em heard a different version of the myth....

I think that the fact the song has actually spawned an urban legend speaks to how powerful it is....

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

"Take Me Home" - yes, a pretty spiffy song.
"In The Air Tonight" - classic, no matter how you slice it.
"Mama" spooky fun.

Don't know much else about his music and frankly don't care.

Sure, he's a good drummer, but I recall hating him for his skin-work on the re-made version of Howard Jones' 'No One Is To Blame' - the original was far better.

He is indeed pretty funny in interviews. Very self-affacting. I think he'd be an OK guy to have a pint with. Although the conversation with Peter Gabriel would be far more interesting. Sting can blow himself. (sorry - did an interview with Sting recently and I'm struggling BADLY to finish the article)

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry - should be 'self-effacing'...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i like his lurking presence in that bone thugz n harmony video, he's cool... not trying to be "down" or anything, just kind of bewildered and amiable.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

The urban legend, explained:

http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/someair.htm

Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

salmon, thanx for the line...

Fritz, I didn't know he was in a Bone Thugs video?? Which one??

Also, imagine the possibilities that appearance brings up in a game of "Six Degrees of Phil Collins"....it probably means you could connect say, Mase and Marianne Faithful in less than 4 degrees....like Bone Thugs worked with collins, they worked with Biggie on Notorious Thugs, Biggie worked with Mase, then Phil subbed for drums with Zeppelin at Live Aid (I think) and probably John Paul Jones did some arranging for Marianne I bet back in the mid-60s....(I'm not sure about all these facts, just speculating, but the possibilites like this are endless.)...

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

"Invisible Touch" is an outstanding song. I am shocked and beguiled by the unhuman hatred for "Dance into the Light." I adore that song and the Gondry directed video for it. I was going to start a thread about that specific song because I assumed it was merely forgotten. "We have each other, we have-a one voice."

theodore fogelsanger, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

The place where I had dinner last night played a whole Phil Collins album (couldn't make one which one) and I realised his music has got to be some of the most unintentionally depressing stuff out there.. The voice, the singing, the production, the attempted-funkiness, all make me think of how lonely and empty this world can be..

Isn't this what we praise Joy Division for?

Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link

He has a song on Into the Light called 'Love Police.' Nuff Said.

calstars (calstars), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 01:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Also don't forget other vapid hits 'Another Day in Paradise' and 'I Wish it Would Rain Down.'

calstars (calstars), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

the word 'unintentionally' is the key distinction

Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

(sorry that was for Mike T)

Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

"I Know There's Something Going On" by Frida is surely justification enough for Phil Collins' career, right? I've only heard two of the fella's actual songs (In the Air Tonight and Take me Home) and they seemed pretty alright too. I don't really see why he's so awful, but I never heard Genesis and am not really familiar with a lot of the cultural baggage that I'm sure could make him seem a lot more unappealing...

Adrian (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 06:23 (seventeen years ago) link

plus my friend criticized the production on READY TO DIE as sounding "like something Phil Collins would've done in the 80s", which just made me like him even more

Adrian (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 06:24 (seventeen years ago) link

yep 'unintentionally' is the key word here, kind of like the cheery and super-colourful cafeteria in a third-league amusement park in the vicinity of Hicksville

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 06:25 (seventeen years ago) link

He's the sort of guy who if interviewed on TV would always be interviewed in his home studio, as if he spends all his time there and the TV crew have just popped round and caught him working on his latest masterpiece.

Nick H, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link

< mutter > Brank X weren't too bad I s'pose < /reluctant >

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 10:29 (seventeen years ago) link

ABACABAARP

... (Eazy), Friday, 10 September 2021 13:29 (one week ago) link

lulz

Cause it's no fun being a senior citizen

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 10 September 2021 13:33 (one week ago) link

The real reason Phil is sitting down on this tour is Mike Rutherford's pathological need to be the tallest person on any stage. His first victim was Steve Hackett, now Phil.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 September 2021 13:57 (one week ago) link

it's more that he has impacted anal glands and needs to occasionally scoot across the floor during the show

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 September 2021 15:17 (one week ago) link

Get better Phil. Rough.

earlnash, Friday, 10 September 2021 15:30 (one week ago) link

Trying to think of an older band whose classic lineup* are all still alive, but can't come up with one.

*counting banks/rutherford/collins/gabriel/hackett here

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 September 2021 15:38 (one week ago) link

Black Sabbath

calstars, Friday, 10 September 2021 15:49 (one week ago) link

CSNY

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 September 2021 15:52 (one week ago) link

Was going to say The Kinks but apparently Pete Quaife died 11 years ago and nobody told me.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 September 2021 15:55 (one week ago) link

The five original members of Manfred Mann, who formed in 1962, are all still alive.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 September 2021 16:11 (one week ago) link

All eight original members of Blood Sweat and Tears (formed 1967) are still around, and none of them have been in the still-existent group since 1977, though I guess their "classic lineup" (such as it is) debuted on the next album.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 September 2021 16:22 (one week ago) link

i had no idea Collins was in such bad condition, much less that he was doing the Solomon Burke stage show. He looks rough for 70.

Per wiki:

In April 2009, Collins had surgery to repair dislocated vertebrae in his upper neck, which arose while drumming on the 2007 Genesis tour. Following the operation, he lost feeling in his fingers and could only grip drum sticks if they were taped to his hands. In 2010, Collins alluded to feelings of depression and low self-worth in recent years and said he had contemplated suicide, but he resisted for the sake of his children. In 2014, Collins said that he was still unable to play the drums and that it was not arthritis, but an undiagnosed nerve problem. In 2015, he underwent a spine operation. In 2016, he said he was still unable to drum with his left hand. His doctor advised him that if he wanted to play the drums again, he would need to practice as long as he took it step by step. In his 2016 autobiography, Collins acknowledged that he had struggled with an alcohol problem following his retirement and third divorce. He also stated that he had been sober for three years.

In January 2017, Collins said he was a type 2 diabetic and had received treatment with a hyperbaric chamber after he developed a diabetic abscess on his foot that became infected. In June 2017, Collins cancelled two shows after he slipped in his hotel room during the night and hit his head on a chair as he fell, resulting in stitches for a severe gash close to his eye. The fall was caused by his drop foot, developed as a result from his back operation.

In 2017, Collins began to use a cane to assist with walking and performed on stage while sitting in a chair.

Please don’t tape drum sticks to Phil Collins hands, it’s not funny.

Alba, Sunday, 12 September 2021 18:35 (six days ago) link

lol

calstars, Sunday, 12 September 2021 18:38 (six days ago) link

The guy went from a workaholic so intense he barely drank to stopping work and realizing he had nothing to do all day except chug vodka.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 September 2021 18:40 (six days ago) link

Yeah, I get why people hate Phil, but there's something very sad about his slipping from the bouncing egomanic rock-star with Hollywood pretentions of the 80s, to old man Steptoe now. I mean, he obviously has made terrible decisions in his private life and seemed to have been an awful guy to be married to (or, at least, to be divorced-via-fax by), and his actions towards the Phenix Horns seemed unnecessarily spiteful. But he's aged so hard and so fast. And he was a brilliant drummer BITD, no matter what you think of the songs he wrote and sang.

"the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Sunday, 12 September 2021 19:06 (six days ago) link

Chances of him writing a late career masterpiece? Against all odds

calstars, Sunday, 12 September 2021 19:19 (six days ago) link

But that's the chance he had to take

"the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Sunday, 12 September 2021 19:29 (six days ago) link

That song is the apex of "you dumped me but I killed myself, welcome to a life of guilt" songcraft. He's a dark little psycho on the quiet, is Phil. Fuck In The Air Tonight, that's his moment of peak evil.

"the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Sunday, 12 September 2021 19:30 (six days ago) link

I fucking love it, as well. There's a masterful self-pity at play in Phil's best work, and when he abandoned it he became as anodyne as his critics always claim.

"the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Sunday, 12 September 2021 19:36 (six days ago) link

I cringe every time I see a ‘70s or ‘80s clip of him playing. His posture is atrocious, which is damaging enough during the 90 minutes that he’s on stage, but where it really fucks things up is in the studio. It doesn’t matter how much time is spent actually playing; the hours of between-take discussions and adjustments mean hours of sitting slouchily at his kit waiting to play. Levon Helm and Charlie Watts apparently made adjustments in their posture — compare ‘70s footage to ‘00s — and Larry Mullen had back surgery in 1996. Did Phil just never get the memo? Or did he think he didn’t need to worry about it?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 12 September 2021 19:59 (six days ago) link

He was busy with larger personal problems

calstars, Sunday, 12 September 2021 20:04 (six days ago) link

He's a dark little psycho on the quiet, is Phil.

He can wipe off that grin. We know where he's been.

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 12 September 2021 20:16 (six days ago) link

If Australian folk band The Seekers count, they were formed in 1962 and their classic lineup is all still around.

aphoristical, Sunday, 12 September 2021 21:26 (six days ago) link

You can tell everyone he’s a darn disgrace, drag his name all over the place, he don't care anymore.

Alba, Sunday, 12 September 2021 22:22 (six days ago) link

I've never heard anything particularly negative about Phil Collins the person, do people have problems with him?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 September 2021 22:24 (six days ago) link

Alamo historians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY3sBIY0tls

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 12 September 2021 22:46 (six days ago) link

In the UK there's long been an urban myth that he told The Sun he'd leave the UK if Labour came to power in 1997. He divorced a wife via fax.

"the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Monday, 13 September 2021 08:10 (five days ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/society/shortcuts/2018/dec/10/aretha-phil-collins-faxes-famous-divorce-notice

Collins says the persistent rumour that he asked his second wife for a divorce by fax damaged his public persona and was a factor in his decision to retire from music. He insists that it is baseless – although he did fax his wife about their impending divorce. “I was in Frankfurt and sent her a fax because the phone kept going down,” he said in 2016. “I was arranging time to see the kids and referenced the fact that [the marriage] was over, but it was translated as me finishing our relationship by fax.”

john landis as man being smashed into window (uncredited) (Matt #2), Monday, 13 September 2021 08:32 (five days ago) link

Sounds like ex-wife's lawyer angling for an advantage in divorce proceedings tbh.

john landis as man being smashed into window (uncredited) (Matt #2), Monday, 13 September 2021 08:33 (five days ago) link

In the UK there's long been an urban myth that he told The Sun he'd leave the UK if Labour came to power in 1997.

according to the bbc he did: https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-32590242

ledge, Monday, 13 September 2021 08:35 (five days ago) link

I don't think the BBC have that right - Phil moved to Switzerland in 1996.

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Phil had said he'd leave the UK if Labour came into power, but he's subsequently denied it, and I've never seen anyone actually come up with the Sun story where he said that, which makes me skeptical.

"the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Monday, 13 September 2021 08:43 (five days ago) link

Collins’ biggest regret (apart from covering the sappy Mindbenders hit A Groovy Kind of Love) is talking to the Sun about politics. “Anything!” he clarifies. “I regret talking to the Sun about anything.” On the day before the 1992 general election, Bizarre columnist Piers Morgan quoted Collins as saying: “If they put up taxes, I’d consider going abroad.” This single line, mutated via Chinese whispers into a cast-iron vow to emigrate if Labour won, proved disastrous. “I remember getting letters from nurses saying, ‘That’s it, I’m not buying any more of your records,’” he says glumly. “I didn’t mean it the way it came out.”

Did he ever vote Conservative?

“I didn’t vote, actually. And that’s not something I’m proud of. I was just so busy that I rarely was here.”

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 September 2021 14:11 (five days ago) link

There's always been stuff about him supposedly moving to Switzerland to avoid taxes, but his (then) wife was literally Swiss. He said at the time, "Her father was dying of cancer, and her grandmother and grandfather were dying from cancer. So I wasn't going to pull her away from them. So that's why I live here. And the only reason I still live here is because my sons are here." Also, even if true, Collins would only be one in a long line of rich Brit rock stars leaving the country over taxes.

Labour supporter Noel Gallagher was quoted: "Vote Labour. If you don't and the Tories get in, Phil Collins is threatening to come back and live here. And let's face it, none of us want that." However, Collins has since stated that although he did once claim many years earlier that he might leave Britain if most of his income was taken in tax, which was Labour Party policy at that time for top earners, he has never been a Conservative Party supporter and he left Britain for Switzerland in 1994 purely because he started a relationship with a woman who lived there. He said of Gallagher: "I don't care if he likes my music or not. I do care if he starts telling people I'm a wanker because of my politics. It's an opinion based on an old, misunderstood quote.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 September 2021 14:20 (five days ago) link

pretty sure the Stones didn't live in France just for the baguettes

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 September 2021 14:56 (five days ago) link

when pressedf urther Collins merely replied "Fuck You Fuck Me"

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 September 2021 15:17 (five days ago) link

...the "gangsta" way he dealt with his wife's affair with his decorator (ie, an ultra-spiteful appearance on TOTP with a tin of paint on the piano).

I went looking for this (from 1981) and found that he repeated this performance, including the paint can, on a special edition of TOTP in 1989.

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 13 September 2021 15:22 (five days ago) link

did Phil Collins kill someone?

y/n

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 September 2021 18:10 (five days ago) link

If not him, who dunnit?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 September 2021 18:16 (five days ago) link

He's got a name, he's got a number, he's got a line on you

"the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Monday, 13 September 2021 18:17 (five days ago) link

he said he saw a gorilla running from the scene of the crime.

i bellowed loudly WOT GORILLA?

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 September 2021 18:25 (five days ago) link

You misspelled cryme

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 September 2021 18:55 (five days ago) link

"Chinese whispers"?

I think he was talking about the Cure EP.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 September 2021 19:00 (five days ago) link

It's what Americans call "telephone" or "whisper down the lane," i.e., a message getting diluted/distorted by repetition, or a self-replicating (ahem) misunderstanding

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 September 2021 19:23 (five days ago) link

Please don’t tape drum sticks to Phil Collins hands, it’s not funny.

― Alba, Sunday, September 12, 2021

Not infrequently, the funniest thing I hear all day is on ILM. Today it was this.

enochroot, Monday, 13 September 2021 19:51 (five days ago) link

"Chinese whispers"?

Yeah, bit surprised the Guardian was using that phrase as late as 2016.

xpost!

Alba, Monday, 13 September 2021 19:52 (five days ago) link

Q: What did Phil Collins say when Mike Rutherford was offering the cocaine around at the reunion rehearsals?
A: I'll 'ave plenty! (Aisle of Plenty)

john landis as man being smashed into window (uncredited) (Matt #2), Monday, 13 September 2021 20:17 (five days ago) link

that must be what happened on the way to Heaven

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 September 2021 20:23 (five days ago) link

he knows what he likes (in your wardrobe)

"the fancy things" being his nads, etc (stevie), Monday, 13 September 2021 20:33 (five days ago) link


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