Jeff Beck: C/D, S/D, RFD

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Truth is pretty good, not as good some people make it out to be, but some fine moments, particularly "Ol' Man River" (Is it tympani?) and "You Shook Me" (like the guitar scrapes at the start). It took me a couple listens to adjust to the delivery on "Shapes of Things", being used to the original, but it does work, especially when I started pretending it was a lost Soundgarden record. I actually think Rod Stewart's voice is really good on that album. I like bits of Blow by Blow, particularly "Air Blower", "Scatterbrain", and "Diamond Dust". All the Yardbirds hits he did were classic of course but I don't know from albums or anything with them. Now in my youth I also had an early comp called Anthology (which I mostly liked - what was the song that goes "I said 'I want you to love me'/She said 'Wow man, that'd be great!'"?), Guitar Shop (which I was ambivalent about - I remember it being kind of 80s shred-y with some dorky environmental messages but it seems to be really highly acclaimed; I'd be curious to listen again), and Guitar Boogie with Clapton and Page (which I remember as OK but kind of boring). Apparently he's now doing stuff with beats and electronics. Has anyone listened to it? Is it anything at all like Richie Hawtin's and Pete Namlook's From Within III which had fusion-ish soloing over electronic soundscapes? I actually liked that.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 3 October 2003 03:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Wire / "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat"

His 1985 version of "People Get Ready" features one of the only Rod Stewart vocals i much care for.

His best tune ever is his treatment of Stevie Wonder's "Cause We've Ended as Lovers".

Oh yeah, and Jan Hammer rules!

christoff (christoff), Friday, 3 October 2003 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Rather, Wired.

christoff (christoff), Friday, 3 October 2003 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I have Beck-Ola, haven't listen to it in years, but on the outro of one song he starts doing some stuff that reminds me of how Tom Morello from Rage Against The Machine uses his guitar to imitate dj scratching...of course, beck's probably just fucking around as there was no scratching to imitate at the time, but still I thought it was really cool to hear...

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 3 October 2003 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw a bit of his show at the blues festival here. He had Terry Bozzio playing drums. It was awesome. I remember someone saying that his new album was better than it had any right to be, which I would love hearing more about.

He gave me a guitar pick after winning a $100 bet with his manager about the nature of an instrument in our band (a sousaphone).

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 3 October 2003 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Thinking back to his very early solo stuff, I find Beck's versions of both "Greensleeves" and (the Eurovision-ish) "Love Is Blue" rather likeable, actually.
Haven't heard anything from two or three of his most recent albums.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 4 October 2003 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, funny that Sundar started this thread ... I was actually just thinking of starting a similar one myself. Prompted by the fact that I recently visited Amazon to check out some record which I now forget (I think it was probably the new Miles Jack Jackson box), and the page's pointers to "other shoppers' purchases" turned up the new Jeff Beck disc. I didn't even know there was a new Jeff Beck disc!

So I went and checked out the song samples and it sounds pretty intriguing; I honestly haven't heard a Beck disc more recent than Wired (oh wait, that's technically not true - I also remember hearing that Live with Jan Hammer record at some point in my life; don't remember a damn thing about it though), and I guess sort of lazily assumed he has been out of ideas. Echoing Sundar's comment, the snippets I heard sounded like they were exploring some cool textures and embracing the use of electronic rhythms. So yeah, has anyone heard this new one yet? Or can anyone vouch for any of the post-Wired discs?

Truth and Beck-Ola are both total classics, of course. I like the Beck, Bogert & Appice record too (never heard the live one, though). He's got one of the real distinctive guitar tones in rock; a masterful user of sustain.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 4 October 2003 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, "Cause We've Ended as Lovers" is probably the best track on Blow By Blow! And I'll confess to kinda liking "People Get Ready" too. It's funny, I was just listening to Jack Johnson yesterday too.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 6 October 2003 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

i pretty much liked "you had it coming". especially "blackbird", the guitar duet with a blackbird(?), a free variation on the beatles song. quite experimental and electronic in places that album.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 6 October 2003 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
"Blow by Blow" era clip, 2 songs + interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6xB3MfHk4E

And where is the love for Blow by Blow?? You're sleeping on a killer record, people.

Keith C (lync0), Monday, 6 March 2006 03:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Beck's version of "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" is quite lovely. I love that tune.

Beck's crazy guitar breaks on "Lost Woman" and "Over Under Sideways Down" had to cause some guitarists to blow a circuit or two back in '66.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 6 March 2006 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Truth is classic in my book. Along with Led Zep II it was my introduction to hard rock as a lad and it's held up well over the years. At this point it's the only Rod Stewart-related thing I can listen to (along w/the Faces). The guitar-playing is just sick, distorto-noise extension of what Beck did w/feedback etc in the Yardbirds. (there are Yardbirds threads IIRC).

Beck-Ola is the similiar, slightly disappointing follow-up.

around 1970 Beck and drummer Cozy Powell went to Detroit and recorded some stuff at Motown (w/James Jamerson) that never got released. His cover of "Superstition" was later re-recorded by Beck Bogert & Appice.

Rough & Ready is a personal favorite though a slight indefensible one due to vocalist Bob Tench. He's responsible for the dippie-hippie lyrics and half-assed singing here but it hardly matters cause the band (pianist Max Middleton, Powell, bassist Clive Chapman) are super-frigging tight and Beck just outdoes himself here, spurting all kinds of white noise and abstract blurt on top of the jazz/funk grooving. If you can get past the tasty surrounding Beck sounds like Lee Ranaldo at times here.

Jeff Beck Group same band, recorded in Memphis w/Steve Cropper producing and again, a disappointing follow-up. Songwriting is braindead, save for Don Nix's greasy rocker "I'm Going Down" and a couple of pretty instrumentals that take JB to the next phase.

Blow by Blow I loved at the time, and promptly got burned out on due to incessant radio play (this happened a LOT in the mid 70s). Seeing Jeff beck live w/The Jann Hammer Group in 1976 (opening for Fleetwood Mac!) was a watershed event in my concert-going career. Not in a good way, the audience was high on garbage drugs like THC/PCP and downs, people were throwing firecrackers and shooting bottlerockets in the arena. Beck cursed out the audience and nearly left the stage, and in fact my friends and I split before the headliners because we were scared shitless. Some tragic stoned idiot jumped into the Ohio River later that night and drowned. I reluctantly vowed "no more big concerts" and conveniently punk rock reared its head just as I went away to college that fall.

Back to Jeff Beck: I like the bits & pieces I've heard of his later work but it doesn't speak to me like those first few rock albums.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 6 March 2006 12:00 (sixteen years ago) link

forgot Beck Bogert & Appice which I need to listen to again.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 6 March 2006 12:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I had that live BBA album back in the 70's. Back then it was real expensive and only avaliable as an import from Japan. I remember really liking but leaving it somewhere where the sun got to it and warped it so it was unplayable! Have not heard it since.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Jesus Christ - in whose vault are those Beck/Jamerson/Powell tapes rotting away??

Mark's opinions generally mirror my own - love Truth and Blow By Blow best, appreciate random tracks on the rest of the catalog, and haven't paid attention in years. Guitar Shop sounded intriguing and got a lot of press at the time, but I never got around to hearing it.

Actually, tho, as much as I've loved guitar heroics and (to a lesser extent) the heroes responsible, there are few things more boring than those instrumental "guitar showcase" albums they tend to make. (Better they should do instrumental versions of, I dunno, Christina Aguilera hits or something; then shred overtop of 'em.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Blow By Blow got incessant radio play in the 70s?!

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

here's that rough n ready lineup w/an achingly beautiful instrumental. bob tench conveniently offstage smoking or taking a dump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkBYPwaExdM

chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Monday, 12 October 2009 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Who was the singer in Beck Bogert Appice? Neither of the latter two was the Cactus singer, and I dont know if Beck ever sang.

Bill Magill, Monday, 12 October 2009 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

his new album is fucking phenomenal

Stormy Davis, Monday, 5 July 2010 08:28 (twelve years ago) link

Who was the singer in Beck Bogert Appice?

Bogert mostly, with help from Appice who furnished some harmonies, I think.

Gorge, Monday, 5 July 2010 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

Stormy Davis OTM.

Sundar, Sunday, 18 July 2010 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks Gorge. That always annoyed me that I didnt know that. His voice sounds like proto-Axl Rose on BBA's "Living Alone"

Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Monday, 19 July 2010 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

this can't be the only thread

is it?

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 16 January 2011 08:05 (twelve years ago) link

oh, wait, I get it -- 'Commotion and Emotion' ranked real high on Pazz & Jopp .. so ..... not much more to be said..

got it

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 16 January 2011 08:08 (twelve years ago) link

Be thankful you didn't see him in the recent PBS fundraiser. Dressed up like a poor man's 80's Rod Stewart in powder blue velvet wearing a tam o shanter and conducting an average rockabilly 'orchestra.'

Can you spell Bozo the C-L-O-W-N?

Gorge, Sunday, 16 January 2011 08:32 (twelve years ago) link

aw, George, how can u hate on Beck, tho? I mean, I do get that he is playing safe ... in fact, maybe safer than he's ever played. But it's at such a high level. And he really is the best .. and it really only appeals to such a small nerdy geary audience ...

let's face facts .. the Eric Clapton audience is like 100x the Jeff Beck audience! and Beck really did come out with a pretty nice LP last year. I think it is OK to give him a little credit for that. no?

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 16 January 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link

did you hear 'Emotion and Commotion'?

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 16 January 2011 08:43 (twelve years ago) link

if so, what did you think (because i completely respect your opinion as far as 'guitar gods' go)

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 16 January 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link

That PBS special (tribute of some sort to Les Paul) was sort of shockingly misguided.

On the other hand, his tour last year was great. I went based upon the quality of the "live at ronnie scotts" or some such title that I saw on cable tv, but didn't expect much. The fans and the event made me fear the worst and regret the time and money expenditure, but once he was on stage, it was special.

He is still completely in control of his instrument and made beautiful, inspiring guitar sounds and song performances for a respectful appreciative group of oldsters and guitar center nerds.

nothing here plaes (Zachary Taylor), Sunday, 16 January 2011 09:05 (twelve years ago) link

aw, George, how can u hate on Beck, tho? I mean, I do get that he is playing safe ... in fact, maybe safer than he's ever played. But it's at such a high level. And he really is the best .. and it really only appeals to such a small nerdy geary audience ...

I'm not really hating on him that much. The records he made in BBA, which are far from his best, I still like an awful lot, for example.

But "shockingly misguided" is apt in reference to the PBS show. Part of my reaction had to do with him so -not doing- anything that a fan of Jeff Beck might want to hear. I didn't expect him to play any old material but ... in this case, geez. But it was passed off as something it really wasn't which, perhaps, was not his fault.

In fairness he has been all over TV for the Rolling Stone rock and roll hall of fame concert, or whatever it was, and he was his usual self for it.

Gorge, Sunday, 16 January 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

kabongg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqA71mm9-XM

backlash stan straw man fan (m coleman), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

wow, cozy powell.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

"Beck's Bolero" may well be my all-time-fave rock intrumental

Lee626, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

It has the greatest scream by a drummer on any record, ever.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

OMG this band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS6nhP5pX74

cold gettin' dumb (m coleman), Thursday, 7 July 2011 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

Unsung hack heroes of early Brit heavy rock -- Bobby Tench, Cozy Powell, Max Middleton.

Gorge, Saturday, 9 July 2011 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

eleven years pass...

rip: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/11/arts/music/jeff-beck-dead.html

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:20 (three weeks ago) link

One of the most immediately recognizable instrumentalists of all time.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:22 (three weeks ago) link

RIP one of a kind

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:26 (three weeks ago) link

An old two-fer, Truth/Beck-Ola, was one of the first LPs I bought when I started collecting in the mid-'70. I like their "Shapes of Things" almost as much as the original.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:28 (three weeks ago) link

he's way too prolific to narrow down to one album or era, let alone song, but fuckin "plynth" is one of the best barroom rockers ever

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:30 (three weeks ago) link

Possibly the world's greatest master of the whammy.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:35 (three weeks ago) link

RIP

Earlier this year I decided to listen to his mid-80s synth stuff and his late 90s dance stuff. Some surprising (in a good way) moments in both periods.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:41 (three weeks ago) link

Got a nice vinyl copy of the BBA live album for (relatively) cheap a couple months back--such an artifact: a double from a band who'd only recorded a single lp, recorded in Japan and only ever released there.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:43 (three weeks ago) link

RIP

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:45 (three weeks ago) link

Absolute whammy bar legend, rest in power!!

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 22:59 (three weeks ago) link

Letterman's people had this up in near-record time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJErzI-aP1M

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 23:00 (three weeks ago) link

so gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiOPvOBd8IA

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 23:00 (three weeks ago) link

made so many great records

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 23:00 (three weeks ago) link

I need that BBA Japanese live lp!

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 23:01 (three weeks ago) link

I wouldn't say that I straight up love his music, but his whole approach and tone is so utterly his own and just impossible to copy, very few guitarists are able to carve out their own space like that

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:23 (three weeks ago) link

that's pretty much where i'm at

also was going through his catalog on spotify and did NOT know he apparently got really into chemical brothers and prodigy and did some electronic albums

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:28 (three weeks ago) link

I wouldn't say that I straight up love his music

Yeah, that's what I meant when above (I think) I said you listen to Jeff Beck for Jeff Beck. That is, not for the songs, as such, but for his playing, which is unique and entrancing in just about any context.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:32 (three weeks ago) link

one gem I found today is Jeff Beck Group - Twilight of the Idols (Live 1967-1968), a comp from 2019, really good stuff

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:44 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.thewho.com/jeff-beck-1944-2023/

“So sad to hear that Jeff Beck has passed away. Last time I worked with him was when he played a lead solo part on an orchestral version of ‘Love Reign O’er Me’ for a BBC concert. His work was impeccable as ever. He walked into Abbey Road Studio 1 with a guitar and asked if I had an amp he could use. He really could get his sound with almost any amplifier. His circle of friends in the music business is vast, we are all partly in shock. He always kept his ‘look’, scraggy black hair, strong face and scrawny rock star physique. It was rumoured he didn’t eat much! But we thought he would go on forever.

Why are we only “partly” in shock? All of us from the first wave of UK rock and pop that followed in the wake of The Beatles back in the early ‘60s are all getting older of course, and when our time comes it comes. And Jeff lived a great life in music, and had a wonderful and beautiful partner in Sandra. He loved his cars, which he engineered himself. He was never bored. He surrounded himself with some of the greatest players in the business, so his concerts were always spell-binding.

Most of all, Jeff was easy to be around, so natural as a musician with such a good ear for melody, as soon as he heard something, he could play it, it fell under his fingers. He was never flashy, his good taste was a huge part of his art. It’s a great relief to know he died peacefully.

The Miles Davis of rock guitar, he will never be forgotten, and those of us who were his friends feel lucky to have known him.”

PETE TOWNSHEND

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:55 (three weeks ago) link

xpost
that's really touching

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:34 (three weeks ago) link

xp It's funny to see them introducing themselves like they're fairly anonymous. Not surprising given the circumstances, just funny. "Are you also a...?" "I'm a guitarist as well, yes."

xxp I love how Roger Daltrey's short response following Townshend's immediately calls Beck his "favorite guitarist." Regardless, Townshend's tribute is very beautiful.

birdistheword, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:38 (three weeks ago) link

lovely post via the apollo440 fb page from noko :

"Apollo 440 produced and co-wrote some tracks for what was to be his 9th solo album, 2003’s “Jeff”. We had him round our studio, Apollo Control in Cally Road, for the best part of a fortnight and I would have honestly paid to go into work every single day of that precious time.
To be there, in the moment, at-the-source, as he weaved his alchemical path in and around the notes that we recorded, was a rare honour and a truly humbling experience.
People asked ‘how does he do it?’, 'what’s the secret?’…was it something elusive and special about his signal-chain?…….in fact it was nothing like that.
His rig was the most generic Marshall JCM DSL 100 and 4x12" and the only slightly weird pedal he used was a lovely old Maestro Ring Modulator : all of the religious ecstasy of his gift came from his fingers and the supernatural, animal-like transportive frame-of-mind he entered when you lit the magic touch-paper and the tape rolled : real, actual magic.
He was such a humble musician and was never satisfied with his performance : "just one more take" he would say …on a quest for perfection that was as legendary as it was frustrating.
On the last day we worked with him, we were in Sony’s Whitfield Street studio, supposedly mixing….yet there he was going back for one more solo retake to push his excellence one bit closer to the stars.
The track we were working on was ‘Take a Ride On My Bottleneck Slide’ and he’d taken a fancy to my new Danelecrtro baritone that I picked up from Denmark Street that day (he got to use it before I’d even played it!)
When he’d finally nailed the take, I asked him to sign it…..”what should I write?" he said……"I dunno" I replied, "how about the song title?" I said…..to which he responded with ‘“Sling yo fuckin’ hook!”…priceless and on my Dano forever.
"

mark e, Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:45 (three weeks ago) link

First some more bad news, news to me: people can be asymptomatic carriers of bacterial meningitis, ugh, so yeah I was gonna keep masking anyway.
Now the good news to me in effect, since I'd forgotten most of the credits on the well-named Flash---although he later disowned it, I really enjoyed it in the Big 80s, and do recall the two vocals by Beck, most others by Jimmy Hall of Wet Willie, and of course the timewarp "People Get Ready" with Rod Stewart (who overdid the "PRAISE The Lohd!" but good track otherwise, Beck rightly responsive).
Also: Nile Rodgers, writing several and producing whole thing, Doug Wimbish, Jan Hammer, Carmine Appice---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_(Jeff_Beck_album)

dow, Friday, 13 January 2023 04:17 (three weeks ago) link

Nile Rodgers told an amazing anecdote at Pop Conference years back when he was one of the keynote speakers -- Alfred remembers it I'm sure -- where he talked about producing Beck and was baffled at learning that Beck was really into Vangelis around then. But with the long scope of time it totally makes sense he was into that as much as anything and everything else.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 January 2023 05:02 (three weeks ago) link

Jeff, thank you for believing in me before anyone else did. You stood behind me & told everyone to take me seriously. You treated me like a daughter to the point where Wikipedia actually thought that was true. Actually, I did too. ♥️💔♥️💔@jeffbeckmusic #RIPJeffBeck pic.twitter.com/TtQ0Ysrji3

— TAL (@talwilkenfeld) January 12, 2023

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 January 2023 15:50 (three weeks ago) link

Aw. She rules.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 January 2023 15:54 (three weeks ago) link

Nile Rodgers told an amazing anecdote at Pop Conference years back when he was one of the keynote speakers -- Alfred remembers it I'm sure -- where he talked about producing Beck and was baffled at learning that Beck was really into Vangelis around then. But with the long scope of time it totally makes sense he was into that as much as anything and everything else.

― Ned Raggett,

*nods* It reminds me when I learned Nile Rodgers cited Roxy Music as an influence -- a "well, DUH" moment.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 January 2023 15:55 (three weeks ago) link

He also cites Kiss, which is more like a "well, HUH" moment.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 January 2023 16:00 (three weeks ago) link

Goddaaang these first two Jeff Beck Group albums are excellent and also supremely funky. Some of my favorite Rod vocals as well. Came to these very, very late but so glad I have. Rest In Peace. What a master.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 14 January 2023 00:09 (three weeks ago) link

I've now listened to Blow By Blow, Wired and There and Back — his three late 70s all instrumental studio albums — and I am definitely gonna be coming back to these. If you're a fan of early Al Di Meola (shredtastic instro rock with some funk and Latin stuff thrown in, plus the occasional wiggy prog synth eruption) you will love these, and vice versa.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 14 January 2023 01:01 (three weeks ago) link

Also in that era, he toured with the Jan Hammer Group, and my friend said it was good---now dig this wiki credit, from the resulting album:

Fernando Saunders - bass, harmony vocals; rhythm guitar on "She's A Woman"
Looks like at least some of the tracks and/or other performances are on the 'Tube---here's rest of brief wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Beck_with_the_Jan_Hammer_Group_Live

dow, Saturday, 14 January 2023 01:51 (three weeks ago) link

And another friend just now sent me the Blow-Up clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHqXWIoYRvA

dow, Saturday, 14 January 2023 02:22 (three weeks ago) link

I listened to Beckology at least twice from end to end. The first half is really strong, a fantastic listen, but the momentum slows with Beck, Bogert, Appice and their two live cuts were kind of excruciating. (The studio outtake "Jizz Whizz" was much better than expected though.) Things do pick up a lot with the selections from Blow by Blow and Wired - that takes us five tracks into the third and final disc. After that the rest is wildly uneven, but there's a nice cover of "People Get Ready" and "Where Were You" is just beautiful.

birdistheword, Saturday, 14 January 2023 02:53 (three weeks ago) link

you guys gimme some other examples if I overlook anything…

1.) he is the most major brit rock 60s personage whose shit under his own name is in no way part of the terrible classic rock complex, no classic rock radio presence to speak of…

2.) while there was a tradition of instrumental music being genuinely popular on the radio before, what, 1967? the 70s? (particularly in the UK), he is the most major rock figure whose mark was most definitive (again, under his own name) as an instrumental artist (those 70s fusion records were genuinely popular).

3. similarly, he is one of the major fusion acts… he's right behind the big three of Return to Forever, Mahavishnu and Weather Report…he plays on Stanley Clarke's "Hello Jeff " and "Rock and Roll Jelly," two songs that are notable for their lack of the self serious portent that enveloped fusion. Which I have no problem whatsoever with, but the absence as such makes these songs totally fun and daresay danceable…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTUBTfeNRtg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igi342t78qs

veronica moser, Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:38 (three weeks ago) link

4) he came up with the drum best for “superstition”

contusion” of songs in the key of life could totally be a late 70s jeff beck tune

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:51 (three weeks ago) link

beat

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:51 (three weeks ago) link

xpost: the other day, I heard "Hi Ho Silver Lining" for like the second time: almost no one other than heads in the U.S. know this tune, but is it true that in the UK, it is by far the best known exponent of his work, a pub singalong, played at weddings and so forth?

veronica moser, Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:53 (three weeks ago) link

I had forgotten that he actually played with Clarke, but while walking around this morning listening to Wired again I was thinking that the music sounds very much in the vein of Clarke's solo material, particularly his self-titled and Journey to Love albums...and there he is!

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 14 January 2023 19:00 (three weeks ago) link

xpost abt Hi Ho Silver Lining

P much, although poss not so much nowadays.

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 14 January 2023 19:02 (three weeks ago) link

xpost: the other day, I heard "Hi Ho Silver Lining" for like the second time: almost no one other than heads in the U.S. know this tune, but is it true that in the UK, it is by far the best known exponent of his work, a pub singalong, played at weddings and so forth?

― veronica moser,

can confirm.
this is a uk party standard.
and i have never ever got fed up with it.

mark e, Saturday, 14 January 2023 19:04 (three weeks ago) link

Just discovered this now-obscure 45:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO4Xn0S5MGE

Written and performed by Paul Jones (ex-Manfred Mann) and released in March 1968, it's more or less a supergroup featuring Jeff Beck on guitar, Paul McCartney on drums, Paul Samwell-Smith on bass, and Nicky Hopkins on keyboard with Peter Asher producing.

From Hot Wired Guitar: The Life Of Jeff Beck, by Martin Power:

Locked into a low-paying contract that forced him to release below-par singles wholly unrepresentative of his undoubted talent or preferred musical direction, and with a band now on the verge of desertion, Beck continued to prop up his income with the odd session. The most notable of these was an inspired contribution to the B-side of ex-Manfred Mann singer Paul Jones’ single ‘And The Sun Will Shine’, cut in the early spring of 1968. Written by the Gibb Brothers – aka the Bee Gees – ‘And The Sun…’ was a fairly innocuous example of late-sixties pop balladry. But its flip side, ‘The Dog Presides’, was much more rewarding to the ear. Cut at Abbey Road’s famous Studio II, ‘The Dog Presides’, featured an all-star cast of musicians and fashionable London faces. Making his debut as a producer was Pete Asher of Peter & Gordon, a singing duo that had already achieved considerable notoriety with four million-selling singles, the best known of which was ‘A World Without Love’. The brother of Jane Asher – then dating Beatle Paul McCartney – Pete had asked McCartney to attend the session at which he ended up playing drums. Also along for the ride was Jeff’s former bandmate and now producer in his own right, Paul Samwell-Smith, who added bass guitar. To give things an extra helping of top-end sheen, Nicky Hopkins brought along his keyboard, leaving Beck to provide some typical fiery runes from the neck of his Gibson Les Paul. The result of all this superstar jamming was a cracking little tune, sung beautifully by Jones, whose panicky harmonica fills were a perfect complement to Jeff’s growling lead lines. For Beck, who reportedly earned a week’s rent from ‘The Dog Presides’, there was only one regret: “Well, all I remember [about it] was hoping Paul McCartney would sing“.

birdistheword, Saturday, 14 January 2023 19:45 (three weeks ago) link

1.) he is the most major brit rock 60s personage whose shit under his own name is in no way part of the terrible classic rock complex, no classic rock radio presence to speak of…

This is true, but also slightly mysterious: why didn’t “classic rock” radio latch onto anything from the first two records? That said, I did hear his version of “Shapes Of Things” a few times on the radio, and I must’ve heard some of the Blow By Blow / Wired stuff on the radio since when checking it out recently every other tune was, “oh, I know this one” (and I didn’t know anyone into Beck who would’ve played those records for me). I think there was probably a narrow window (and/or a midnight “let the stoner DJ play whatever” slot) on “classic rock” radio in the ‘80s that let some Jeff Beck slip through.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 14 January 2023 20:20 (three weeks ago) link

BBC just put this up, Beck doing a rig rundown in 1974:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7nP0xwgTY0

is it true that in the UK, it is by far the best known exponent of his work

Beck described it "like having a pink toilet seat hung around your neck for the rest of your life.”

Vast Halo, Sunday, 15 January 2023 17:52 (three weeks ago) link

it is / was such a ubiquitous UK wedding / school disco / pub singalong anthem though i'd guess a lot of people who know the song don't know who it's by. i asked my wife about it earlier and sher said she had always thought it was a beatles song!!

..and while he famously hated it, he was persuaded to play it one time at least -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhpgepbvIhY

stirmonster, Sunday, 15 January 2023 18:33 (three weeks ago) link

xxxpost, "The Dog Presides" indeed! Totally refreshing, bird, thanks so much!

Here's one somebody just sent me:

This one, from 2007, is worth it too. Not just because he does the track from Blow by Blow that was all over the airwaves back in the day, but for the solo by Australian bassist Tal Wilkenfeld, who was 22 at the time. The entire show at Ronnie Scott's is available on YouTube, and it's really good...includes a version of Billy Cobham's "Stratus" (from his first solo album, "Spectrum") that is every bit as good as the original!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC02wGj5gPw

dow, Sunday, 15 January 2023 19:00 (three weeks ago) link

David Torn said on of Beck winning a Grammy for "Plan B" which featured mix and music by Torn.

splatt said:
that's what Jeff said, and it meant a lot to him..... and to me. he called me immediately upon hearing the Grammy news, and enthusiastically blasted me with, "It's your Grammy, it's yours!"

freaking dude.

ya know, he was really incredibly supportive of me as a player, pointing out the inspiration he'd gotten listening to my playing & music, my uses of pitch-expression on the guitar over the years, and my Oud playing of all things..... completely unbidden, and without any hint of hesitation.

mensch.

i went to a gig with him, once --- his gig, after dinner --- which was fantastic.
me & my friend Hector went backstage afterwards to see what was up, thank him for his brilliance, see how he felt, make after-show plans, but the room was sooooo over-crowded --- maybe 85-100 people jammed together in a pretty small ante-room? --- with a sizeable percentage of guitarists present.

it was waaaay too crowded for me, and i was getting guitarplayerly-claustrophobic..... couple of well-known players saw me, came over & said "hey"; one of 'em said, clearly condescendingly, "what are you doing here?".
(like, why would i attend a JB show?" damn. WTF?)
i said, "well, i came to hear Jeff play", turned to Hector & said "let's split & see Jeff later." Hector disagreed, "f*** that merde, let's hang for another few minutes!"

so, a few minutes later:
Jeff pops through the curtain and is just peering around the crowd, then grabs a chair & stands up on it so's he can see better, sees me & points at me & yells across the room "TORN, TORN! Didja hear me playin' your licks, TORN? Didja hear your licks, TORN?"
and, as if i were a kid..... i just felt so good in that moment. crazy, of course, but kinda validated, maybe even relieved somehow? and Jeff knew, he def knew what that meant to me.

freaking dudistic mensch.

earlnash, Sunday, 15 January 2023 19:21 (three weeks ago) link

Great story, thanks.
A bunch of shows, incl w xpost Jan Hammer Group and Stanley Clarke---also, scroll all the way down for his Bowie show, guesting on "Jean Genie" and "Round and Round":
https://zensurfingarcher.blogspot.com/

dow, Sunday, 15 January 2023 19:33 (three weeks ago) link

why didn’t “classic rock” radio latch onto anything from the first two records?

I used to hear "Beck's Bolero" and a few others from those records, plus "Going Down", on the local classic rock station.

On the subject of the tour with Jan Hammer, there's a Spinal Tap-worthy quote from Beck from a guitar magazine:

I couldn't believe how I misjudged the role he was to play. Not musically, because his playing is superb, and if he fell on his arse on a piano, it would come out a magnificent chord. He's that sort of bloke.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 16 January 2023 00:33 (three weeks ago) link

Flash has weirdly really grown on me. I first heard it last March and only enjoyed the more bizarre songs where the LinnDrum seems to be wanting to do free jazz or 777-9311. Now I have time for all of it except People Get Ready.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 16 January 2023 02:56 (three weeks ago) link

The opening seconds of this cannot fail to make me laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s7r9n4jspM

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 16 January 2023 03:00 (three weeks ago) link

That's a Dirk Diggler single they've got there.

birdistheword, Thursday, 19 January 2023 03:57 (two weeks ago) link

Written and produced by Nile Rodgers!

But check out this bonkers/shit song (also written by Nile Rodgers) and time capsule video from the same album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaGfW2Ifuts

Crazy solo starts around 3:40.

I am saddened by the news of Jeff Beck’s passing. Here’s a clip of a video I did with him in ‘85. It was this video that really paved the way for the success of my hit, Soldier of Love. 

I’ll always be grateful to Jeff for that opportunity.

RIP, my friend. pic.twitter.com/7FTDYMLp3r

— Donny Osmond (@donnyosmond) January 12, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 January 2023 04:34 (two weeks ago) link

Greil Marcus was asked about Jeff Beck and recalled a bizarre incident at one of his Yardbirds shows. Here's the relevant section:

Jeff Beck shocked me in the Yardbirds. What he did in “Shapes of Things” seemed unreal, but it erased the song. With the much stronger number “Mister You’re a Better Man Than I” he becomes part of the body of the song; he is the song. I admired him in the Jeff Beck Group but Rod Stewart was so good it was hard to listen to Jeff Beck. Listen to their “I’ve Been Drinking.” It’s built to showcase the solo but when it comes, and the rest of the instrumentation builds to it, it’s a distraction. Maybe that’s why for so long that record, buried as a B side, was almost impossible to hear.

I’m glad he carried on. I would have thought he was pretty much forgotten. A full page obituary in the New York Times almost didn’t make sense. Someone there loved him.

A memory, though: In June 1966, we went to a small place in Brixton, in London, to see the Yardbirds: the Ram Jam Club. Before bands came on they played only reggae—its rock steady form. We had no idea what it was but it slithered through the room. Then a soul band called the Heatwaves came on. They were good. They built their set so that when they ended with “Heatwave” it was pure satisfaction.

By this time it was late and the place was so hot and steamy it felt like sweat was pouring down the walls. The Yardbirds came on and the reality of the night took a step up. They were both explosive and careful, anarchic and precise. It was an unstable combination of values and it seemed to make every song feel like a risk, where anything could happen.

When they finished everyone was milling about. Two beautiful Swedish women went up to Jeff Beck, gave him huge smiles, talked for a minute, and then one of them asked Beck for his guitar. As a souvenir: “I will take it home,” she said. I was shocked. There was something so condescending, so trivializing of the show, along with a sort of implicit transaction that she wasn’t trading sex for the guitar, it wasn’t worth that much, but merely by appearing before him offering him the priceless opportunity to keep her in his mind forever as an unobtainable erotic object. Something like that. I could see him freeze with rage. He picked up his guitar and proceeded to smash it to bits. Then he kicked the pieces to the back of the stage and walked off. The women acted insulted. I liked that as much as any solo I heard heard him play.

birdistheword, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:26 (one week ago) link

Was just looking up the Yardbirds' history because of the book I'm writing — Cecil Taylor opened for them at the Fillmore West for three gigs at the end of May 1968. Beck was long gone, though; Jimmy Page was the sole lead guitarist by that point, and the band broke up in early June.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:34 (one week ago) link

Jeff Beck shocked me in the Yardbirds. What he did in “Shapes of Things” seemed unreal, but it erased the song

wrong

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 January 2023 19:40 (one week ago) link

Was just looking up the Yardbirds' history because of the book I'm writing — Cecil Taylor opened for them at the Fillmore West for three gigs at the end of May 1968. Beck was long gone, though; Jimmy Page was the sole lead guitarist by that point, and the band broke up in early June.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, January 30, 2023 2:34 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Just hit me that it's kind of weird to me to realize that 1968 Page and 1968 Taylor existed at the same time

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 00:22 (one week ago) link

The women acted insulted. I liked that as much as any solo I heard heard him play.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 00:24 (one week ago) link

Maybe she was trying to get him to say, "Well, I'll bring the guitar---special delivery," boom-chakka-wow-wow. I mean, those were the Sixties, after all. But easy to see how it could have come off as too lofty, baby.

dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:28 (one week ago) link

Maybe Marcus was just thinking of the scene in "Blow Up."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:31 (one week ago) link

along with a sort of implicit transaction that she wasn’t trading sex for the guitar, it wasn’t worth that much, but merely by appearing before him offering him the priceless opportunity to keep her in his mind forever as an unobtainable erotic object.

Griel is overthinking this. When you're hot people give you guitars all the time.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:57 (one week ago) link

Don't I know it

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:12 (one week ago) link


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