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― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 16:24 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.acherecords.com
http://www.deathdeathdeath.cjb.net/
http://www.femmefatale.cjb.net/
http://www.thesicklipstick.cjb.net/
http://www.blackcat13.cjb.net
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/8282/frames.html
― lamont, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:24 (twenty years ago) link
Hmmm. Well, it would be better if they said something like "Death from above"...
― fatty, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 23:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago) link
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― Kaiser of Köln (Kaiser of Köln), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 08:17 (nineteen years ago) link
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― irrigation can save your village, Friday, 12 November 2004 01:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 12 November 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link
asking here because of the number of music writers on this site -why is there not one story calling out DFA on their alt right connections? all i see are puff pieces on the new album. what gives?
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
bump
― sleeve, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link
I'd wager it's because
1. No one really cares about them anymore2. No one left who cares is even remotely surprised
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
What are the connections? I don't think I even know what this band sounds like - guitars? - but I think all I've seen is one picture of one (masked?) dude from this group hanging with a bunch of alleged assholes in a bar. Is there more?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
ironically, no lead guitar at all
dreadful band
― imago, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
noisey has run two articles on them in the last two weeks
so much for doing the work and fighting like fuck
― the late great, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
Does this mean we should no longer make love and listen to Death From Above?
― how's life, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
the dude is on Gavin's show all the time and Gavin has claimed JK as a Proud Boy. cmon do better, music writers.
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
What the fuck is a Proud Boy?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
let me google that for you
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
I think that name is super, super dumb because it sounds so much like a regional name for a sandwich (hoagie, hero, sub, proud boy, grinder, etc)
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
I like that it's diminuitive, they should go all the way and change it to Little Proud Boys
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
ya but like it's supposed to be "silly and jokey" which is like one of their main defenses
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link
If I have to google what a Proud Boy is (I don't know what it is) because JK (I don't know who that is, but I assume a DFA guy?) is a friend of Gavin (I think I know who that is?) to learn whether a dude from a band I don't think I've ever heard is some alt-right asshole, I'm not sure it's worth a story for the general public. But maybe?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
chaki's point is that they are in the middle of a PR push so there are already stories being written about them. none of which mention the alt-right connection.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
Aha. Yeah, that's weird. Does the band affiliate alt-right, or just this one guy?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
who... cares?
― "the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
Josh -not trying to get down on you, but also not trying to hold your hand on this stuff either. Proud Boys have been in the news a lot lately.
This is a good start: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/626/white-haze
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
Whiney I care that indie rock media gives a pass to Gavin and his buddies. Aren't you the one always clowning on Noisey and talking shit on people giving a pass to Terry Richardson? What's the diff?
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
Does the band affiliate alt-right, or just this one guy?
half the band, ie one guy, does
other half guilty by association imo
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
Like you just gave shit to John Maus for being on MDE in the AP thread.. if THAT get's a story why wouldn't this popular band person being associated with the pbs get a story
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
hoping that Whiney was responding to Josh there
― sleeve, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
I assume he meant "who cares if it is the band or one guy," per my comment.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link
xpost
yeah, was responding to Josh
― "the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link
haha im an idiot sorry
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
Googled "Proud Boys," what a bunch of stupid dickholes, but yeah, not ringing a bell. Weird.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
damn now i want a sub sandwich tho thanks a lot djp
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
Any time!
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
*regional sub sandwich
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
Hadn't heard of the Proud Boys until some people I know from the vintage scooter (and associated mod/soul) scene started complaining that the group had adopted a particular Fred Perry shirt as their uniform.
― early rejecter, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
shittiest band
― brimstead, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
I didn't know that Kurt Schwitterz posted here, in fact over a week before he published the Medium article.
I post on Ned Raggett's Facebook page alerted me to the story. I was supposed to review the DFA show in Philly the same day that Keller wrote his not particularly contrite mea culpa.
I didn't review the show. I did, however, explain why I didn't.
I do want to thank Kurt and Ned for signal boosting this (I believe that's what the kids call it). It reminded me that even us lowly internet bloggers and writers of music can at least try and do better.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 30 October 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
Huge respect to you for your piece. And that’s fine and good except that it’s not good enough for me - I 100% agree with this. His statement was BS and absolves him of nothing.
― stirmonster, Monday, 30 October 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
('kurt' is a long, long-time ilxor)
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 05:49 (six years ago) link
where's the medium piece? I missed it, chaki
― akm, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:59 (six years ago) link
I keep seeing sponsored UC Theater posts about their upcoming show here and have been surprised that there didn't seem to be any antifa protests lined up around it.
oh I found it. so you buy that apology? do we really excuse this because the guy is an idiot?
― akm, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 13:11 (six years ago) link
here's one webpage that will give you all the evidence you need to say fuck this moron and his shitty excuse foreverhttps://www.compoundmedia.com/shows/the-gavin-mcinnes-show-133/5718dfe9fde84536fd013f57/
the only reason he's 'apologised' is that he doesn't want to lose the income from his shitty bands shows
― jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
I don't buy the apology nor do I think it's good enough.
SUMMARYToday on TGMS, Gavin covers the Muslim takeover of Britain, but first, Bobby Henline and Gavin rate the top 10 hottest chicks. Jesse Keeler tells Gavin how Britain is losing it's identity. Tommy Robinson describes his recent problems with Muslims in his hometown of Luton. Jack Buckby ends the show giving an overall view of Muslim's effect on Britain.
― drejelire, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link
WTF does this fool know about Britain's identity anyway
― akm, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
the smiths probably
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
his wife's family lives there
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 3 November 2017 00:06 (six years ago) link
Amoeba has a tie-in with DFA right now, i wonder if they're at all aware of his Gavin show appearances and some of the anti-Muslim quotes...
https://www.amoeba.com/news-contests/contest-643/index.html
― drejelire, Friday, 3 November 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link